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XDAII + TomTom2 + BT GPS = Slow?

I just purchased the Fortuna Clip_On Bluetooth Reciever for my XDAII. First install went fine, I set it all up and used it walking home from the station. The TomTom software worked faultlessly and was quick to use. When I got home I closed TomTom, turned off the GPS and put the XDAII on the charger. In the morning I opened TomTom to setup a trip to France. When I opened TomTom it was VERY slow. It took about 8mins to open the application and navigating around the software was impossible. It did not crash or give me any errors it was just real slow. I uninstalled the application and reinstalled it. This seemed to solve the situation temporarily and off I set on my journey. After the first leg of my Journey I turned it off whilst on the Ferry. Next time I turned it on it was back to snails pace and so rendered it useless for the rest of my journey.
Any ideas whats going on? Is this a common problem?

WiZeR said:
I just purchased the Fortuna Clip_On Bluetooth Reciever for my XDAII. First install went fine, I set it all up and used it walking home from the station. The TomTom software worked faultlessly and was quick to use. When I got home I closed TomTom, turned off the GPS and put the XDAII on the charger. In the morning I opened TomTom to setup a trip to France. When I opened TomTom it was VERY slow. It took about 8mins to open the application and navigating around the software was impossible. It did not crash or give me any errors it was just real slow. I uninstalled the application and reinstalled it. This seemed to solve the situation temporarily and off I set on my journey. After the first leg of my Journey I turned it off whilst on the Ferry. Next time I turned it on it was back to snails pace and so rendered it useless for the rest of my journey.
Any ideas whats going on? Is this a common problem?
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What type of card? sd/mmc?
what version xda roms
what other apps. e.g. GPRS mon is known to cause problems sometimes.
try tomtom 3, it's much faster / more reliable.
I'm using xda2(1.6) + sd +cf, tomtom 3.01 + fortuna gps without problems.

you need GPS driver version 2.09!!!
I had the same problem cause I was using driver version 2.00, then I moved to v2.09 and it worked perfectly.
Ciao :wink:

I tried last week TomTom3 + i-mate+ Royaltek BT GPS, I drove in the UK. Everything worked very good all the time.
I am using all the latest ROMS, with Bluetooth tools.
How can I check my BT driver version?

It is a 256 SD card (Viking Interworks)
Rom Version: 1.60.00WWE
ROM Date: 12/03/03
Radio Version: 1.10.00
Protocol Version: 1.337.18
ExtROM Version: 1.60.50
Not much else is installed, I am using 1-calc and the check/clear notifications app. Thats it
Where do I get the updated GPS Driver?

give me your email via pvt msg and I will send to you, ok?
I tried to post it in the forum, but no way.....

its ok i found it on pocketgps. However it has not solved the problem. I installed the GPS update, cold booted and the same problem exists
Any other ideas?

what i do not understand is why it would work perfectly for about 2 hours then just slow right down like this.

Have you set GPS connections to:
- TomTom Wireless GPS
- Bluetooth GPS
I have these settings in v2.09 GPS and it work perfectly with fortuna clip-on...
I repeat that I had the same identical problem as you have and I solved with 2.09 driver and the settings you see above...
good luck

oops, actually i just noticed its 2.07 i updated to.
How big is the 2.09 update?

I found the 2.09 update on the web, but its not solved anything
after the update it is still really slow

Have you set GPS connections to:
- TomTom Wireless GPS
- Bluetooth GPS
I have these settings in v2.09 GPS and it work perfectly with fortuna clip-on...
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?????????????????? WHAT ABOUT YOUR SETTINGS ??????????????

GPS Connections? I'm not sure what you mean by this?
Under TomTom GPS I have it set to:
SiRF 38400
COM5
I have it unticked at the moment as I am just trying to get it working properly. The PDA Slider is set to Zzz and sound is on.

Under TomTom GPS I have it set to:
SiRF 38400
COM5
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change to:
- TomTom Wireless GPS
- Bluetooth GPS
and see what happen... 99% you solve with this settings cause it was the same for me. TRY these settings, let fortuna and XDA2 communicate and that's it!

I don't want fortuna and xda2 to communicate. I want to be able to use create routes without the gps reciever connected. At the moment it takes about 5mins for TomTom to just launch.

i tried these settings and it is still slow, i timed 6mins to launch the application and a further 1min to open the menu.

what other apps?
Wizer,
What other apps do you have?
Have you tried hard reset + reinstall ? First backup with say sprite backup.

I think this is driver related. Uninstall tomtom then reinstall with the latest gps drivers, I am not sure you should be selecting sirf 38400 either.

i tried installing from clean install and i tried with the latest GPS drivers. Nothing solved it. In the end I have had to install tomtom3 which has strangely solved the problem for now. All I have to do now is find the Great Britain maps

TomTom 5 & XDA 2

Hi, Firstly thank's for posting the unlock code's for Xda 2 , very good , However i use the 3 network ( somebodys got to) and it is still locked , so i,m using my old pay as you go sim, but that's not the prob, when using tomtom 5 (and 3) and i get a call come through tom tom freezes up and will only work again after a soft restart , has any body else suffered the same or know of any fix's????? Cheer's in anticipation steve.

well i have tomtom5 and the only bug is that it doesnt lite up the screen !

Sorry for not replying been away , have seen in the forum that frezing is very common . I hav'nt encountered no back light prob so cant help i'm affaid . Thank's for the imput anyway . steve

Tom Tom 5 and XDA 2
I recently upgraded from TT3 to TT5, the only real problem I get is the phone ringer and caller display does not ring or display propperly.
My Jabra BT250 is slow in responding and answering when the button is pressed.
One other bugbare is not being able to see the Start Menu Bar when running TT5 as unable to see if you have a phone signal or received a text or missed a call.
Any help on these matters would be greatly apprecieated.
Thanks
ROM 1.7.2.00WWE
Radio 1.17.00
Ext Rom 1.72.18i1

It seem's every xda has different problem's , when my phone ring's it do's take a second to ring in the BT headset and about another second when the button is pressed to answer the call , and i get a balloon come up to say who is calling but i think that is part of Fonix voice dial. Icannot see away round including the start menu while running tt5 or 3 , so does tom tom freeze when you get a call or change phone arials??, sorry i could'nt be any more help
rom v, 1.72.00
radio v 1.17.00
ext rom v 1.72.181

I have been using TT3 extensively past year and recently upgraded to TT5.
No real issues.
THE issue with TT3 was that when my BT GPS was out of reach and i started TT3, it almost locked up my whole device (had to soft-reset). I found out is has something to do with my BT GPS. Aparantly WM2003SE does not have this issue.
next to this, I noticed frequent freezes IF I had actoivated POI. Tested this with several (also Toshiba and Panasonic made) SD Cards.
With TT5 these problems are gone.
The only thing I noticed when using TT5 is when I try to start a phne call the display is not properly build up: all except the numbered buttons are there.
No freezes whatsoever here anymore.
All in all still an improvement.

Tom tom 5 icm socket/emtac gps
I upgraded to ttn5 but cant get my gps to fix
emtac BT gps
in Bt menu my pairing is ok, but when I select a ' other BT gps ' it doesnt recognise it.
The options are BT on com 6 (but I dont have a com6)
or com9 or com2
any Ideas how to activate those com ports ?
Thanx
Rob
Qtec 2020, emtac BT gps, TTN5

use tomtom5patch from this site and place it in startup folder, then soft reset and try again

use tomtom5patch from this site and place it in startup folder, then soft reset and try again

@pleun: Where do we find this patch (searched for it but no results) and what does it do?

Advice
I'm considering buying TT5 but am a bit concerned about all the problems people are having. I noticed on tomtom's website it is compatible with the XDA 2. Would it be best to buy this package as it all comes complete on an SD card tomtom have tested, or, go for TT3 - people are selling these on ebay really cheap??

TT5 and XDA2
I am running TT5 with the GB Plus map on the XDA2 without any problems.
You must use a BT or serial GPS connection. Get a good mount which has a RJ11 connector for the TT serial GPS or use a Y cable for something like the HAICOM PS2.
XDA2 512 SD
SIN MERGED
RADIO 1.8
WM2003SE

it makes com 5 visible to tomtom.

Internal GPS problem HTC P6500

Hi all,
I recently purchased a P6500 and I installed Igo 8.When I enter the gps config menu it says that gps could not be found;if i hit the auto search button the device freezes.
I installed Port splitter 1.11 and I managed to gain something...the device doesn't freeze anymore but it still can not find the gps.I have no idea how to set up the com ports....the program port..the hardware port..I am confused...
(I also inst. Igo 2006 and works ok.)
I appreciate any help!!

Xman556 said:
Hi all,
I recently purchased a P6500 and I installed Igo 8.When I enter the gps config menu it says that gps could not be found;if i hit the auto search button the device freezes.
I installed Port splitter 1.11 and I managed to gain something...the device doesn't freeze anymore but it still can not find the gps.I have no idea how to set up the com ports....the program port..the hardware port..I am confused...
(I also inst. Igo 2006 and works ok.)
I appreciate any help!!
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Hi, Xman -- I don't know this software and so probably can't really offer anything helpful. For what it's worth, the GPS seems to work fine on my P6500: both with Google Maps and with GPS-enabled photos on the HTC Camera app. Does your GPS work with those programs?
Sorry about your troubles!
Alan

I didn't try with Google maps because I'm interested in making Igo work .
At list tell me an app which can show me some info about the internal gps such as speed /the com port on which it's installed etc..
Thanks

Problem solved!!!!!!!
Solution? GPS Gate

I have also noticed the same problem running both IGO-2006 and I-GO 2008 on my 6500,on the other hand i have had no trouble whatsoever running Destinator 7 and Garmin ,i guess it's got something to do with the software and not the PPC itself which i must say has a very good GPS receiver.
Edit
Thanks for the GPS-gate idea.

Xman556 said:
Problem solved!!!!!!!
Solution? GPS Gate
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Hey Xman556,
I've having the same problem with my HTC 6500.
Could you please be kind to tell me how to set up the gps gate so it well work ok with the iGo8.
Thank you
Gigino

Well I think I rejoiced too early.Today I took a longer trip and wanted to check how my new solution works......after catching speed the gps started disconnecting an reconnecting until I had to turn it off for good.So almost back to square one.....anybody who can help?

gigino said:
Hey Xman556,
I've having the same problem with my HTC 6500.
Could you please be kind to tell me how to set up the gps gate so it well work ok with the iGo8.
Thank you
Gigino
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At input I selected WM GPS and after you hit open.
At output I have Gpsgate direct/virtual com2(all NMEA)/COM2/COM4
But as I said in my previous post...is not quite working.
Also you might check the franson's web site ..thy seem to have a nice support forum...if you find anything please share.

gigino said:
Hey Xman556,
I've having the same problem with my HTC 6500.
Could you please be kind to tell me how to set up the gps gate so it well work ok with the iGo8.
Thank you
Gigino
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You mean that you have also problems with the Igo8?If yes do you have the original Igo or the cracked one?

Xman556 said:
You mean that you have also problems with the Igo8?If yes do you have the original Igo or the cracked one?
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Hey Xman556,
it is a crack one at the moment untill I can get it to work properly then I'll buy it if not I'll just leave it.
The way I can get it to work is like this I start the iGo8 then I go to settings TMC and dp a search if return as no hardware fined then I go to GPS and put in the com port 4 and the speed 57800 and it work but if I do a soft rest the iGo8 well not work anymore until I change the GPS port in the PDA to a diffrent port like port 8 then the Igo8 well star and I have to do everything I did before go to TMC and so on if I try to go straight to the GPS without going to the TMC the system hang and I have to do a soft rest this is the way I got it working I'm using the version 4.1.506 if the Igo I tried the earlier version and it is the same problem I need a solution better than this.
Thank You
Gigino

As far as I see the problem is that the cracked Igo is not able to start the internal gps.
Here my new solution..this time is really working !!!
GPS TEST from chartcross...i start this program .it starts the gps then menu/minimize and after i start the igo.
Tell me if it works for u.

Xman556 said:
As far as I see the problem is that the cracked Igo is not able to start the internal gps.
Here my new solution..this time is really working !!!
GPS TEST from chartcross...i start this program .it starts the gps then menu/minimize and after i start the igo.
Tell me if it works for u.
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Hey Xman556,
thank you for you suggestion it does work now it is much more easier after a soft rest.
Thank You
Gigino

I had this problem with I-go at first. When first installed selecting the gps port and or baud rate would lock the phone. Also if you did an auto detect it would also lock the phone. Solution, have gpsdash or google navigator running with the gps enabled (or anything else that works with the internal gps it seems). Without stopping the app start I-go and it will find and use the gps quite nicely.
Once it has done this the first time I never had to run anything else before I-go even after a reset. Tried this several times by fully reseting the 6500 and worked every time.

similar GPS problems with HTC P6500 and iGo
Hi all,
I'm writing from Germany and have similar problems with iGo 2006+ and iGo 8.
(I purchased iGo 8 just yesterday)
My (German) settings:
Settings --> System --> External GPS -->
Tab Program?:
COM4 for internal GPS, no external GPS via Bluetooth (see Attachment)
Tab Access?:
manage GPS automaticly: ON
What are your GPS settings?
- - -
What I have discovered:
- 1st starting iGo 2006+ and iGo8: both applications hang during 'starting'
- With Igo 2006+ I tried: 1st starting the app 'GPS Tuner', then starting iGo
--> It starts and iGo finds GPS on Com4 with maximum baud
(now I don' t have any longer 'GPS Tuner')
- With iGo8 I tried starting the freeware 'VisualGPSce' 1st (until GPS fix), then starting iGo8 --> It starts, I could set COM4, maximum baud...
--> so I think, is is an internal iGo/GPS-problem
- Today I could drive about 10 km with Igo8, then it crashes without any msg
You can see, I have similar probs, did u solve the probs meanwhile?
---
Rainer from Germany

cracked igo works fine on Sedna. from SD or InternalFlash.
I´m using GPSGATE.
Start GPSGATE, best automatically after reboot.
this will start the internal GPS.
Now you have 2 possibilities.
1. use the output port of GPSGATE, maybe Virtual Com1. You can select it in the options from GPSGATE
or
2. use Com4 from internal GPS. once startet from GPSGATE, it works.
you have to edit your sys.txt in folder programs....igo8
[gps]
port="1" or "4"
baud="38400"
it works definitly
Guenni

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After trying all kinds of programs(GPS port spliter,gps gate and gps test) I found that the solution with gpstest is the best.So I decided to perform a hard reset in order to install on my device only the useful software. But after the hard reset the gps would not start no matter what programs I installed. So I sent the device to HTC and they replaced the mainboard.
Now the IGO8 works perfect(together with GPSTEST-pls see my earlier posts).

GPS Text script
I too found GPSTest.exe useful because its really small.
Strange that iGo hangs when trying to communicate over the port *unless* you start another program and open up the GPS unit's port.
Sounds a lot like PPC/iGo GPS management issue.
Be that as it may, I created a script with MortScript, and then put this shortcut under my programs in "\Windows\Start Menu\Programs" on my PPC (I'm running WM 6.1 if you care).
The following script opens GPSTest.exe, launches iGo, then closes GPSText.exe after iGo shuts down;
iGoLaunch.mscr:
Code:
#OPEN GpsText.exe minimized
Run ("\Storage Card\Program Files\Chartcross\GPSTest\Bin\GPSTest.exe")
WaitForActive ("GPS Test", 5000)
Minimize ("GPS Test")
#Run (and wait until iGo closes)
RunWait ("\Program Files\iGO8\iGO8.exe")
#Close GpsText.exe
Kill ("\Storage Card\Program Files\Chartcross\GPSTest\Bin\GPSTest.exe")
After creating iGoLaunch.mscr, put this link (use notepad) into "\Windows\Start Menu\Programs"
iGo 8 GPS.lnk:
Code:
1#"\Storage Card\iGo8\iGoLaunch.mscr"?\Program Files\iGO8\iGO8.exe, -101
Please note: If you decide to use this script and shortcut, I highly suggest you check the paths/filenames for accuracy.

GPS and WM 6.1 upgrade
Hey guys -- this may well not be relevant to the issues you're dealing with -- I don't use iGo -- but there is a HUGE improvement in GPS reception with the Windows Mobile 6.1 upgrade. My Sedna used to have a very difficult time getting GPS reception: it often could not find a signal despite repeated attempts. But since the upgrade, it's been locking on quickly and consistently.
Thought I'd pass this on in case it's helpful.
Alan

very simple script
once the GPS is initialized for the first time it will work
I've wrote a script for MortScript. The only code is:
WriteFile( "COM4:",x )
This script only sends something (here x) to COM4.
Then COM4 is used for the first time and will keep on working.
I start this script in autostart.
That's all.
Please regard uppercase and colons when writing "COM4:"
Bye
Guenni

Solution for port splitter
You can use port splitter for your gps. here is the process i went through with my HTC (jade). first i used gps gate and figured out that the internal gps is using com4. since gpsgate is not free and had to stop using it I tried port splitter
simply install port splitter on your pda
under INPUT-> PORT: com4 and Baud: 4800 (you might have to type COM4 yourself)
under OUTPUT-> select com1 on the drop down menu and press ADD
then press Start Splitter
and it should work
if not install gpsgate and figure out what port it is using and than use port splitter.
This should save you some money
Greetings
Macula

GPS problem after ROM upgrade

Hi
I just flashing my cruise with the new official HTC Rom(French).
Now my gps won't work anymore. Everytime i setup my GPS port(com1-com9)in parameter "External GPS", the parameter are not saved.
Tomtom say: "no GPS device"
any idea
Thanks
PS: sorry for my bad english!!!

After flashing always make a HARD reset ( push gps button and explorer button and reset button with stylus then push green button 2 times ) and it 'll solve all your probleme

Thanks
but i does not change anything.
I just perform a hard reset and always unable to save my gps port parameters.
any other idea?

Your gps doesn't work or you can't save the port on windows gps settings?

i can't save the hardware port on windows gps settings

Why do you want to save it , when you launch tomtom/igo they found the gps automaticaly and it works fine.

There might be a problem with the settings in "External GPS" (under "connections" menu).
In my case it shows COM4 (programs tab) / (none) (hardware tab) / Manage GPS automatically (access tab)
And ofcourse both Tomtom and IGO8 are configured to use COM4.

if i am not configuring the GPS com port, tomtom are not able to find GPS device: "No GPS device found"
I try "Integrated GPS Device" and " GPS NMEA" with the same result.
I use TomTom 7.450.9028

I also use TomTom 7.450.9028 (and iGO8) with no problems........
My device is configured to use programs => COM4, hardware => (none) as I told you. Sorry if I can't help you more than this.........

i try the same parameter as you... and it works!!!
thanks

Nice to have helped you!

69Absolute said:
i try the same parameter as you... and it works!!!
thanks
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I knew it, i was looking for the settings.

Radio 1.59.42.15 seems to play havoc with Destinator
After upgrading a Polaris to the most recent HTC Official WM6.1 ROM (Portuguese) I started having problems with Destinator 7.
The device detects the GPS signal and then loses it every 20 seconds or so. If you go back to the GPS settings in Destinator, you see that the GPS Antenna is OK, with 7 or satellites, and then you go back to the map and it works for a while (another 20s) before it loses GPS signal again.
I tested this on 3 HTC Cruise and it is always the same.
I tried upgrading the radio but that didnt work because Radio 1.64.xx.xx doesnt seem to work on this ROM (no sound on calls, poor GSM/3G reception).
I also tried Radio 1.58.21.23, and that still gives me problems with GSM/3G.
Here is the info on the HTC ROM
R 1.59.42.15
G 25.69.30.05H
D 3.13.00.00
Has anyone been through this and found a way out?
Thanks
Andre

Did you try this Radio Rom?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2787760&postcount=262
It seems to be a better/newer one

Tried the ROM but
Scotty, thanks for the suggestion - that didn´t help, though.
Now, here´s the funny part: I decided to use Destinator 6 and guess what? It worked like a charm: 8 satellites in 30s, no loss of signal. Go figure!
Destinator 7 works on all other HTC devices and used to work on the BetaPortuguese ROM I had. I don´t really understand why the radio messes up with GPS so much. Still, I´m glad I found a solution.
Thank you for the support!

tom tom navigator 7 works but does not show satellites

Hello, I had Tom Tom 7 navigator 7.450 running fine on my Xperia X1 until I had the factory software installed (ROM VERSION: 1.02.931.3).
Now i just updated to the latest software from sony ericcson web site (ROM VERSION: 1.05.931.10). When I re-installed the same Tom Tom 7.450 it works fine but I don't see the number of satellites and the blue bars representing the signal strength of each satellite are also missing. Its strange as it still shows the position and can be used to navigate.
I have tried to remove and re-install tom Tom three times but still get the same result.
Any help is highly appreciated.
Thanks.

yeah, I faced the same issue with my X1i, using tomtom 7 as well on the latest firmware. no idea WHY this is happening, maybe we'll have to wait for a new version of tomtom

With the R1 firmware, I could only use it with the "other Bluetooth GPS" on COM4 to get it working. Since R2 (and it's also the case with R3), I use builtin GPS and it works perfectly. Sometimes it can take up to 2 minutes to work, but it works.

seems others too facing similar prob. same myself. tomtom 7 will not 'see' any satellites, though it get a fix and works normally. It happened since i upgrade to the r3 ( official, and itje's touch-it 10.2 rom).
But no such prob when using google maps. It works fine, and also shows satellites as well.
It seems to be a compatibility issue with tomtom 7 and r3 firmware. just a wild guess...

Same issue with Garmin Mobile XT after upgrading to latest R3 official ROM... 3D fix but no satellites number and graphics...

Hi Guys total newbie and I had the same problem with mine but I got hold of a copy of 7.910 and it works like a dream.

1. Configure WM (Settings - External GPS):
- Programs : COM2
- Hardware : COM9 baudrate : 9600
- Access : activate the check box
2.Configure Tomtom :
- GPS Settings : Other NMEA, Speed : 9600, on COM2
Works perfect

hmm i use tomtom 7 since jan 09 on my xperia without problems.... it founds 8 to 10 sattelits very fast.... but if ur in a room u got no chance to recive any signals....

neowkewl said:
hmm i use tomtom 7 since jan 09 on my xperia without problems.... it founds 8 to 10 sattelits very fast.... but if ur in a room u got no chance to recive any signals....
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Seams to be depending on what version of TT you are using if it will pick up internal GPS directly or if you have to use the method I described above.

TomTom 7.450.9028 just works perfectly with R3.

TomTom 7.915 just works with R3.

Trudi said:
TomTom 7.450.9028 just works perfectly with R3.
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In my experience TT 7.450.9028 works perfectly but it doesn't show the number of satellites: "work perfectly" means that also without this information the localisation/navigation works perfectly

So I tested it today, sometimes it shows the satellite, sometimes not. Then after a soft reset, sometimes it works again, sometimes not... It seems a bit hazardous...

try with a newer (or older) radio version.

It's for sure a TomTom compatibility problem, not a radio problem, as all my other GPS freeware (like Leaf GPS for example) work perfectly. I'll check to upgrade my TomTom.