DTMF on 8525 - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

Can anybody tell me how to send DTMF tone in Cingular 8525? I searched this forum and the internet infact, but not able find the answer.
I need it to be able to set up the phone number in the address book to do this:
dial the 877-xxx-xxxx number
manual wait
DTMF a 10 digit number followed by a #
manual wait
DTMF a 4 digit number followed by a #
manual wait
DTMF a 11 digit number followed by a #
This is for calling my parents in India and it's always been really convenient to just program the whole thing.

One way would be to enter a 'p' wherever you want a pause in the dialing. This produces a second or two pause between sending the numbers.

Thanks for the quick reply. I tried that and even tried adding w but it is not working.
Also my requirement is a manual pause meaning the automated message takes a while to finish, so I need to send the tones manually.

Hmmm. I dunno. I used to be able to do something like that on an OLLLLD Motorola and some home (non-cellular) phones by using several speed-dial locations, and calling up each one as it was needed. But I never tried it with my 8525 (and don't really need that usability now).
Maybe you can give that a shot and let us all know if it works????
Good luck!

Thank you for that suggestion. Since it is a lot of combinations I would prefer to use DTMF. I really don't know wherther you can send DTMF tones on 8525. Also I saw in the install notes of HTweakC 2.1 for Hermes that it would enable DTMF support. I guess I don't know how to use that feature. Can somebody please tell what I am missing?

DTMF
I had issues with this also.
I used the HTweakC 2.1 to turn on (then off / then back on again with soft resets each time.) (Don't forget to "save and exit" after changes.) the DTMF support.
Opened the phone app and went into options. Set DTMF to short.
Used the following format for the contact phone number.
(111) 111-1111w11111#w11111#
Everytime you get to a w, the phone will wait for you to press the send key.
I also was able to use the p to do a 2 second pause.
For some reason I had to redo the contact several times before it would work.
Good luck.

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Writing SMS with standard mode with one hand?

Very often I have to write an SMS with one hand, but it is impossible with Qtek 2020.
I would like to find a software where you can write an SMS with the standard mode (like on normal GSM) with standard numbers 1-9 with letters on them.
I use D9 to find the contact and I think it is very usefull.
When you find a contact and you tap the SMS button near the number it should be very appriciated to have a standard GSM input letter mode (like T9) instead of default SMS client of WM.
Do someone know if a software like this exists?
Thanks for the answer,
Urosh
GO to www.yorch.net and look under "software".
I' don't find any software I described before.
Please let me know which one do you think do what I said.
Thanks,
Urosh
I apologise, I thought it was on yorches site, here is the link for you, it is a superb piece of software and it is FREE. Anybody else wants a brilliant sms program make sure you get it too.
http://www.handango.com/PlatformSea...siteId=1&txtSearch=designlab&zsortParams=true
I just found a bug in this program when running on xda2, if you push "select" button when entering phone number it gives an error, but ig you spend a little time inserting all your often used numbers you can use the drop down becuase it remebers the last 20 numbers that you have used, its worth a little time to set it up becuase it saves a lot of time in the long run.
Actually it's not working at all with my mda ii It says: message sent successfully, but later on-message not delivered Do you have any idea what I could be doing wrong? Is there a special format in which I have to put the number of receipient?
i think, only way is spb fullscreen keyboard or typeango ..
It's working fine on my XDA-II with T-Mobile ROM 1.60. The only thing is that if I am trying to send to local mobile number I have to enter the number with '+', country code etc. while I could use 'short' number with ordinary mobile phone.
Zeljac said:
Actually it's not working at all with my mda ii It says: message sent successfully, but later on-message not delivered Do you have any idea what I could be doing wrong? Is there a special format in which I have to put the number of receipient?
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Ok, that seemed to do the trick. Tnx a lot, it's working now flawlessly. But, I still have another question -how do you input "+" directly from the SMSwriter. "+" is on the same key as the "0" and whatever I do I keep getting "0". Of coarse, I could call up the keyboard but for that would again need a stlyus
Its a serious shortcoming, its a pity somebody couldnt patch on the ability to select searchwhich would bring up the contacts list, any offers from you programmers please???
unfortunately, found no way around it, I used to enter '+' with soft keyboard using a pen. The only temporary solution which comes to my mind is the list of numbers used to send SMS already (there should be some 25 numbers kept).
Zeljac said:
Ok, that seemed to do the trick. Tnx a lot, it's working now flawlessly. But, I still have another question -how do you input "+" directly from the SMSwriter. "+" is on the same key as the "0" and whatever I do I keep getting "0". Of coarse, I could call up the keyboard but for that would again need a stlyus
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For me is impossible to use this software only with my fingers.
It has too small dialogue boxes (to find the contact).
For me the best solution would be to have a D9 program that integrates a SMS client which has the same keypad which is at the start of the program (with big buttons) to write to message (when the contact has just been selected).
Bye,
Urosh

DMTF

is there a way you can send DMTF with the JAM like in most nokia phone if not all
They say that if you switch off sound when you press buttons, DTMF tones are sent correctly. There was such a reply in this forum. Sorry, I don't remember the author
DTMF is no problem with my device even with sound/tones active when pressing the buttons.
bamse said:
DTMF is no problem with my device even with sound/tones active when pressing the buttons.
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It was not good on mine - T-Mobile MDA Compact. In some cases the other side did not show reaction on incoming tones. With the sounds set to "off" it became fine.
do one of you guys know, how i can store these dtmf tones? for example i you've got a mailbox where you have to enter a code for access. the easiest way(you don't have to remebmer the code) is to store the phone number incl the dtmf tones in the phonebook. like nokia does it, e.g. +49323244322p1234
after the p is the access code.
do you know a way how to do this with the magician?
thx in advance
simple. create a contact with the dial string. assing a speed dial and you're good to go.
111-2222,,,,1233
each comma makes the phone wait a few seconds before inputting the 1233 string.
Hope that helps.
cool thx. its working.
It is the same as Nokia
You can also do with the magician as with any other phone. The Pause digit ("p") is a standard convention. If you use it in a number in a Nokia phone, the phone will wait for the other end of the call to "pick up", and then will send the remaining characters as DTMF.
Same on the Magician. You should have just tried.
The use of commas is also standard and works in all phones, but it just makes a 1-second pause, which is not very reliable for the first DTMF sequence after "pick-up". In fact, due to line coverage, 4 commas might work one time, but not the other time. "P" works all the time.
On my Magician phone book I actually have very long sequences of DTMF, to check various types of voicemails, or use calling cards. I always use "p" after the main number, after that the use of p or comma is the same, it's always 1 second.
the "p" doens't work with my mda compact.
the , is okay but p not.
i tired before, otherwise i wouldn't ask
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That's really strange!!!! Could it be that MDA's have got a different dialler (my Magician is i-mate)?

DTMF not working on TYTN Vario II

In my Contacts in WM 2003 I used to be able to define an access number before I call my contact e.g.:
08707940000,,01xxxxxxxxx.
Where the first number is access number and the second is the contact's number.
However now, the phone only dials the access number (the first number) and after a short pause I can hear it dialling 3 to 4 DTMFs but it is not actually dialling them because the provider is not picking it up the DTMFs.
I have to dial the numbers manually and than its OK.
Can anyone reproduce this? Please help!
Same issue here... I have a contact like this:
+3493532XXXX,1234#,0561617XXXXXXX
This dials +3493532XXXX (my home number) where I have an asterisk box, then I hear the message "Please enter your password followed by the pound key" and the DTMFs for the password and # key are sent correctly (in the number the passwd is 1234), then I hear the tone where I can dial any number, I dial 056 (prefix to use FreeWorldDialout on my asterisk) and 1617XXX (USA Boston number)... I hear all the numbers, but I see my asterisk hanging up before the whole number has been sent.
Very weird... I will do some more tests to see if I can find any solution...
Ok, finally I got the solution... do not put more than 4 digits without a comma (pause)... i saved my contact like this and now it enters the password and dials correctly:
+3493532XXXX,1234#,056,1617,XXX,XXXX
Hope it helps you too! :shock:
I did what you did, the problem seam to be that the DTMF tones are not sent at all aldough I can hear them.
I'm getting this too very odd. Getting rather bored of holding the phone up to my speakers so I can play the right tone and empty my voicemail box!
hi.. got my vario II on friday, and i have the same problem. i used to be able to dial an international number on my UNIVERSAL by calling the local access number and insert a pause before dialing the international number for example: 02071246666,006596454343. however, this does not work on vario 2 and i am very upset about it!!
Hi,
you have checked this:
HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL: EnableDTMFSupport = 0
switch to
EnableDTMFSupport = 1
Hi,
Thanks for the help, but i tried that, but it was already set to "1".. i switched to "0", soft reset, switch back to "1", soft reset again, but still not working...
I am also having this problem, cannot empty voicemail at the moment.
I have the same problem on my Vario II. When I'm entering the number manually during the call I can hear the sound, but the other end does not respond to my input at all.
This is really annoying as I can't get into my voicemail or contact customer service
Anyone had a solution for it so far?
Are there more people with a TyTn/Vario with this problem? If so, do respond because it might be a bug or something...
Motje said:
This is really annoying as I can't get into my voicemail or contact customer service
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On my Vario II if I go to the phone app dial 150 and when connected then press keypad I can then navigate the customer service menus by pressing the on screen number keypad if that is what you mean?
Yes, that is exactly what's not working for me. I can press the keys during the call, and I hear the tone, but somehow the other end does not get them.
Interesting topic I just saw on MoDaCo: http://www.modaco.com/Problem-with-Phone-Dialer-on-Hermes-t247377.html
It turns out that it is not just the DTMF, but also the d-pad up key not going to the call history, and the 3G icon having changed to U.
This all happened after a hard reset.
Can anyone else who did a hard reset confirm if they have any of these problems?
Check that
HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\3GVTEngine\AMRDTMFToneFile = "\windows\dtmf122.amr"
then try changing the value of
HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\3GVTEngine\UseAMRDTMFTone
from 1 to 0 or 0 to 1
No idea what it means, but it is set up in some Preconfig setups
Excellent, I solved my problems. What I did was re-install all the cab files from the extended ROM. This gave me back my T-Mobile dialer and also made the DTMF working again.
Motje said:
Excellent, I solved my problems. What I did was re-install all the cab files from the extended ROM. This gave me back my T-Mobile dialer and also made the DTMF working again.
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That worked for me to.
Mine worked fine untill I installed the DeepOcean dialler skin and then it stopped working - removed it and it came back (DeepOcean lacked smartdial).
Installed the Eten dialler and smartdial, and have lost the tones again, think this phone skin is great, but it won't properly uninstall (need the original T-mobile phone skin/graphics) so am currently stuffed!
Have done all the usual soft reboots etc.
I'm confident if I re-instated the deafault t-mobile dialler it would come back, however, I don't want to do a hard reboot and reinsatlll all the add-on apps and data.
Any ideas how to get the DTMF tones working - I can 'hear' them, they are clearly not being sent, If I put it on speaker phone, then in clear conditions the mike picks it up and it works!!
Any ideas?
DTMF Doesn't work - FIXED IT!
Fixed it!!
Editing the registry and setting the value to 0, then soft reboot and dtmf tones are working.
Setting it to 0 wasn't the obvious choice, and previously I hadn't soft rebooted.
Found the following from dhushy in:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276700
Worked it out. For anyone with a similar problem, use the registry editor to locate the following key:
HKLM,"Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL","EnableDTMFSupport",0x0 0010001,1
Change the value from 1 to a 0 and Bob's yer Uncle (for non-British readers that means everything will be cushty - see Only Fools and Horses for a contextual translation)
Did this and I was able to manipulate my voicemail messages as normal.
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I am on T-Mobile UK.
A Big Thank you
This advice on changing the dtmf code from 1 to 0 was the thing ive been lokking for - for the last 4 months. A really big thank you

Please... How do I make a shortcut to get to call forwarding

Just got my new Orange M3100 (Tytn) and I'm having problems with trying to forward incoming calls to another number. I have to divert and cancel divert often during the the working day and could do with a short cut to the settings call forwarding page. I don't seem to be able to make one... Could anyone advise...
Also trying to do similar with Bluetooth settings as I swap my BTheadset between phones just as frequently. I have found a link on this site to a utility to do that but not had chance to try it yet...
Can I just make a shortcut to that as well ??
Apart from that it appears a excellent device, running Tomtom etc without any problems....
Thanks in advance Phil
All the ways I tried to create such a shortcut do not work, because it requires an USSD "call". I asked WM5NewMenu author to implement USSD handling, will see...
For now the best solution I've found is to assigh speed dial keys in the dialer to USSD sequencies to divert and cancel diverts. It's OK for a while because speed dial keys can be easily accessed with one hand only (green phone button, then arrow left or down).
EDIT: In case you don't know USSD sequences... You'd better consult your operator to be sure. For me:
Divert all calls: **21*number_to_divert_to#
Cancel divert of all calls: ##21#
There are also codes for conditional diverting, of course.
Hi Phil,
What Lurker0 has mentioned is a good idea. You can save those strings as a number in a contact and maybe assign a speed dial or voice tag to that contact for speed? I guess one contact to enable and another to disable. The commands Lurker0 mentions are standard over all networks.
I'm not sure if there are ways to send AT commands to the modem in the TyTN (M3100) but it is another possible way to do it if someone knows how, if not then it might be useful info to someone else.
The AT command you need to send is AT+CCFC=1,1,<number>,128,1,,, this is the number in local format (no +44) like 07968xxxxxx to enable and AT+CCFC=1,0 to disable.
Gavin.
Phonealarm may be a simpler solution as I think u can add a forward number within a profile so just switching profile from the Today screen (phonealarm skin) would do the trick...
www.pocketmax.net
I've not had any dealing with the ATM commands so to be honest I wouldn't know were to start. I've just tried to install Phone alarm in my Orange SVP
M3100 but after asking me if I need and extra language the software just locks up.. Soft restart then required....
I managed to find the directory that it was installed in, the setup prog is there but I can't find the executable file, I guess that it has not got that far !!!!
Any help please...Phil
I'd suggest to try USSD codes as the easiest and 100% working solution.
Tried the ussd numbers in the contacts list.... works very well both divert and cancel divert... Just need to setup the speed dial now, were is that manual !!
Thanks again.
Phil-w
Hi Phil,
Go into the phone skin (green button) > Menu > Speed Dial...
That's you...
Gav.
Speed Dial is also at "green phone button" then arrow left, or arrow down, or wheel down. So one hand operation is possible.
Many thanks to you both... Nice to find helpfull people on here... Phil
phil-w said:
I'm having problems with trying to forward incoming calls to another number. I have to divert and cancel divert often during the the working day and could do with a short cut to the settings call forwarding page. I don't seem to be able to make one... Could anyone advise...
Thanks in advance Phil
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Phil,
I do the same and installed the O2Plus (and patch) software which tweaks the today screen and gives direct access to mutiple profiles for different forwarding options - works really slickly.
Check this forum for the .cab files
Hope that helps.
Rgds
Lifechanger
i tried putting the codes in a speed dial but Tytn unhelpfully said i had to enter the sequences in from the phone pad directly. all i did was put the **21*<no># in as a speed dial. did i miss something somewhere?
If you are rooted, start a shortcut to "Activities". Scroll down to "Phone", expand that, then scroll down to "Call forwarding". Select! Easy peasy.

inserting pauses for Wing speed dialing

No one at T-Mobile has the answer and HTC tech support referred me here. I dial my office voice mail maybe 10-15 times a day. On my Sprint phone I was able to insert pauses in the dialing. It would dial the number, pause for the voice command, add a string of numbers, pause for the next voice command, and finally put in my password. So I could press 3, for example, and it would take me all the way through to my messages. So far I can not find a way to put in the pauses on the Wing. So I have to press 3 and then wait for the voice command, and then manually put in the next string of numbers, then wait again for the next voice command, and then put in the password. This is time consuming and impossible to do while driving. Anyone know if it can be done on the Wing? If so, how? Thanks, Tom
I have not tried it on the Wing... But try just putting a comma "," in the dialing string... Should work.... Does on all my other phones......
Commas
I tried this. Maybe I'm doing it wrong, but I don't think so. In my contacts I go to the phone number. Here is the string I use (with x's for most of the numbers): 1802xxxxxxx,,,#802xxxxxxx,,,xxxxxx
I have this as a speed dial and also as a T-Mobile Fav. Any way I try to dial it it only dials the 1802xxxxxxx and then stops.
There is no way to insert pauses
I have now been told by someone who seems to know at T-Mobile that the Wing has no way to insert pauses into a contact phone number. To me this is a near fatal flaw. It means that if I call my office voice mail 5-10 times a day I have to type 16 extra digits (which includes my phone number and my password) each time I try to get my messages. Oh well.
Tom H said:
I have now been told by someone who seems to know at T-Mobile that the Wing has no way to insert pauses into a contact phone number. To me this is a near fatal flaw. It means that if I call my office voice mail 5-10 times a day I have to type 16 extra digits (which includes my phone number and my password) each time I try to get my messages. Oh well.
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I have 'p' as a pause digit and it works fine to call my voice mail for example...
P's don't work for me
malixsys said:
I have 'p' as a pause digit and it works fine to call my voice mail for example...
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Tried it on the Wing but no luck. When I dial with the P's added, the dialing never gets past the first string of numbers. On the dialing screen there are no P's and nothing past the first string. This is true for comma's also. When I tried it with ***'s it did appear, these did appear on the dialing screen of the Wing when I dialed but the call clicked off without dialing with the message, "Call Ended." One thing I noticed is that Outlook takes anything after the first string of numbers and puts the rest under "Extension" and puts an x before it. But I'm having the problem even if I enter the number only on the Wing and not in Outlook.
My mistake -- p's work and also commas
malixsys said:
I have 'p' as a pause digit and it works fine to call my voice mail for example...
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Yes! I see what I was doing wrong. A comma or a "p" both work fine. Thanks for the help.
One problem remains: I have this number as one of My Fav's, and if I dial it using My Fav, it doesn't do the pauses. I think I have to wait until July 1 and refresh the My Fav. -- I hope.
And what have you done wrong? (Just to solve this one exactly)
xsign said:
And what have you done wrong? (Just to solve this one exactly)
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At least this: When did the speed dial (after inserting the pauses), at least a few times I did not wait long enough for the pause to kick in. On my Sprint phone I think it happened quicker with more pauses (I think), and I was used to have it happen quickly.
The Call Ended message that kept happening may possibly have been due to being out of a service area, but I tested at the time and other calls were going through, so I'm not sure what happened.
Finally, I haven't synced it back with my desktop yet. I hope the Outlook on the desktop doesn't screw things up.
One more thing if it is useful: T-Mobile has these My Fav's. If I dial using the speed dial or directly from the number itself, it is working. But if I dial directly from the My Fav's it does not insert the pause. I think the reason is that I uploaded the My Fav number to T-Mobile before I put in all the pauses, so T-Mobile must have it and be using it without the pauses. On the first of the month I intend to upload it again with the pauses and see if that will work. Hope so.
Thanks, Tom
we can also use a 'w' to insert a wait
along with the 'p' for pause, a 'w' can also be used to insert a wait. That would be useful when you are not sure how long to pause and want control of when to send the rest of the DTMF sequence. If you insert a 'w', you have to keep pressing the Green Call button and it will keep sending the DTMF sequence till the next 'w' in the number.
I use that very frequently to dial international phone numbers with different calling cards.
a w may work on the wing, most current android phones it seems like a ";" is whats required for the wait tone. also a comma is used for pause (3 seconds)but the easiest way i found to do it is by simply pressing the menu button while in the dialpad screen, it will pop up with options to add wait's or pause's

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