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Mac OS X tethering post Cingular 8525 ROM update (ROM version 2.15.502.3)

I used to be able to tether using my old ROM as well as the "un-official" new ROM versions prior to the recently released ROM update dated 4/09/07.
I use Missing Sync (ver 3.0.2) on OS X, and it would allow me to tether the 8525 using internet sharing set to USB. Now the only way I am able to tether is via the Bluetooth PAN, and even then the connection is spotty at best.
Did the official ROM change the way Internet Sharing works? This is very annoying and any assistance or ideas would be welcome.
I downgraded from the CUSTEL 2.5 WM6 ROM due to Missing sync's inability to sync with it as well as an inability to tether my Mac. Vista using Bootcamp works but Vista isn't my cup of tea...

Soon...
In a couple of weeks time you will have a solution to your problems with Apple OS X and Microsoft Windows Mobile. (Hint: it's not free.)

I am assuming that this would the much anticipated Missing sync update. If only I could shorten the wait... oh well.
Thanks.

Not really. Trade your 8525 for the iPhone!

bluetooth pan
something must be wrong with your phone because I use Bluetooth pan with internet sharing at work, in my car, at home and it works just fine. I even thought about ditching the Internet at home

neomuzic said:
something must be wrong with your phone because I use Bluetooth pan with internet sharing at work, in my car, at home and it works just fine. I even thought about ditching the Internet at home
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I do it too. All the time. Is AWESOME from the car, especially in a a 3G area. (Parked, not driving.)

i can't even connect my 8525 to my mac via bluetooth. it worked once and now the phone won't open up the passcode screen to connect.
edit: my rom is version 1.34.502.3. should i update to a newer one?

I think its the location that I am at that may be to blame. I have a really slow connection via Bluetooth PAN. The same isn't true when using Vista and Internet sharing via USB - that connection is much faster (though it too blanks out at times).
As for connecting to OS X: simply start the Bluetooth setup assistant on the mac and search for "any device". Then select the phone and pair the two. At the very end of the process the Mac will list the services that are available via the phone. One of them will be the shared network.

ranjeetsodhi said:
I think its the location that I am at that may be to blame. I have a really slow connection via Bluetooth PAN. The same isn't true when using Vista and Internet sharing via USB - that connection is much faster (though it too blanks out at times).
As for connecting to OS X: simply start the Bluetooth setup assistant on the mac and search for "any device". Then select the phone and pair the two. At the very end of the process the Mac will list the services that are available via the phone. One of them will be the shared network.
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yeah, it stalls after i select it from the device list. the screen where it gives me the passcode to connect it, it seems like my phone doesn't receive it. not sure. but you think i should upgrade the rom? looks like mine is kinda old.

I'm posting with OSX using my phone right now
delete the bluetooth pairing on the osx machine and on the phone
from osx bluetooth assistant and select any device
if it asks about using the phone as a headset disselect that
if the phone once pairs asks about a serial device do not select that
verify if bluetooth still is on on the phone
goto internet sharing
bluetooth pan
connect
make sure its actually connected to the internet
on the osx machine click the bluetooth icon again and select "join network on ___your phones name____ "
thats it!
sometimes give it a second
if it still doesn't work make sure you don't have some kind of crazy firewall setup
using Custel's 2.5 rom (windows mobile6)
juicychus said:
i can't even connect my 8525 to my mac via bluetooth. it worked once and now the phone won't open up the passcode screen to connect.
edit: my rom is version 1.34.502.3. should i update to a newer one?
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Hi,
Some weeks ago I tryed to use MissingSync for internet sharing with different WM6 versions without success. With official AKU3.3.1 version it works with the USB cable. But battery life is very short with this version.
Regards.

Yes, missing sync does not yet support WM6. Try the "normal" bluetooth pan method described above.

Anyone tried doing OS X tethering with newer versions of the WM6 roms?
I'm currently running vp3G 2.0 (WM6), rom date 5/15/07, radio 1.40.30.00, protocol ver. 32.73.7020.16H
Because I'm working offsite tomorrow, I was hoping to use my phone to tether my laptop to work with VPN on the laptop... and then I can login and out of the timeclock, etc. But trying it from work tonight before I leave, I can't get the bluetooth on my 8525 to connect to the PC.
Followed Neomuzic's instructions to the letter, but Safari isn't getting things working. Any assistance would be appreciated!!!

Nevermind... I'm a dork! Figured out where Internet Sharing was on the phone, and all is well. Having a little trouble connecting to my work proxy server... but messing with that now.

todd_jg said:
Yes, missing sync does not yet support WM6. Try the "normal" bluetooth pan method described above.
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As of August2007, Missing Sync 4 supports WM6.

I'm also using bluetooth pan right now to post
Hello all,
I usually dont post much since i rarely have anything to contribute, but this time I do. I am running a macbook connected to my cingular 8525 thru the bluetooth pan and have zero problems. I upgraded my rom to the new vp one with all the latest settings and love it. No more looking for a hotspot for me. I dont use safari broswer on my mac, i use firefox. Thanks to everyone on this forum with the knowledge and time for helping the rest of us.

What i do is connect my JasJam to xp running through parallels, start internet sharing and it installs the drivers(first time of connecting it) and then it works perfectly everytime. Only in xp though.
I have installed the latest missing sync but havent tried internet sharing on mac osx but now that u guys say it works thats awesome! Will mess with it later (knowing me i won't attempt to get it to work until i'm off in some foriegn area with no internet connection and will need to download drivers that i'll struggle to get through pie/opera on my jasjam...) i fail to plan ahead with things like this! lol

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Tethering 8525 to MACBOOK. HELP.
I tried several different approaches to tether my 8525 to my MACBOOK, with no success.
I have specific scripts from the web installed into the modem scripts folder. No luck with any of them. I believe the scripts aren't the problem but the COM ports are the culprit.
I recieve an error message that says," Failed to open RFCOMM serial channel. Check if authentication needs to be enabled in your device"
This is after pairing the 8525 to the MACBOOK and completing the blue tooth setting in the Network folder in the System Preference folder.
The pairing is successful because I can "send files" to the 8525 via blue tooth icon.
I read somewhere that the MACBOOK should allow me to set and choose COM ports but I haven't found the option.
My question is where do I find the COM port option in the MACBOOK because I believe that is where my problem is.
MACBOOK C2D, OS 10.4.10.
8525 ROM: 2.15.502.3

abubasim said:
Not really. Trade your 8525 for the iPhone!
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had iphone not nearly as good as my tytn until its fully hacked but think bout what your saying befor you speak lol
kidding

Internet Sharing With Xbox Live ???

Joined this site a while ago, and needless to say, I've been literally blown away by it. The members of this site are just incredibly talented; I've been able to make my 8525 look and function just fantastic, and just about any fix/patch I've been able to locate through this site.
Currently using Custel WM6 rom and it's so stable and faster than the WM5 I had (though it was so hard to choose with so MANY excellent cooked roms to choose from)...
So, since it seems there's no limit to what can be done with these great devices, I was wondering if it is at all possible to use an 8525 to connect an Xbox 360 to Xbox Live?? I am able to connect using Internet Connection Sharing via USB to my laptop running Vista Ult. and get great surfing speed, so is there any way to somehow configure it to get the 360 to connect to Live through it? Could the 8525 be connected directly to the 360 (prob not likely) or can it be set up using the laptop to share the connection??
Any help/answers on this would be greatly appreciated!!!

I may be wrong, but I don't think that this is possible.
As far as I know, the xbox has no bluetooth pan support, and I don't think it is possible to have an USB modem directly setuped.
The remaining possibilities are: through the RJ45 or through the wifi. Sadly the hermes has no RJ45 connector, and it is unable to become an acces-point nor an add-hock host.

I just wanted to say that the idea of using a Hermes to connect an xbox 360 to xbox live would be just about the coolest thing ever done with a cell phone.
Is it possible to connect a 360 to XBL via a PC/laptop?

Dammit!!
Well, was worth a try, especially before tangling myself in wires trynna wing it... Guess I will be calling those Optimum guys for my XB Live fix...

Precisely what I was thinking. Was sitting here surfing using the phone as a modem, getting great speed, then thought, 'hey it would be cool as f%#$# to connect to Live with this...' I mean, I know the 8525 could probably handle it... The question is, what CANT this phone do?!

HOLLIDAY1183 said:
Joined this site a while ago, and needless to say, I've been literally blown away by it. The members of this site are just incredibly talented; I've been able to make my 8525 look and function just fantastic, and just about any fix/patch I've been able to locate through this site.
Currently using Custel WM6 rom and it's so stable and faster than the WM5 I had (though it was so hard to choose with so MANY excellent cooked roms to choose from)...
So, since it seems there's no limit to what can be done with these great devices, I was wondering if it is at all possible to use an 8525 to connect an Xbox 360 to Xbox Live?? I am able to connect using Internet Connection Sharing via USB to my laptop running Vista Ult. and get great surfing speed, so is there any way to somehow configure it to get the 360 to connect to Live through it? Could the 8525 be connected directly to the 360 (prob not likely) or can it be set up using the laptop to share the connection??
Any help/answers on this would be greatly appreciated!!!
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Just tried it. Plugged it in and enabled Internet Connection Sharing, and the phone starts charging, but says "Check USB Connection" I'm not much of a hacker, so I can't attempt any driver\software hacks to get it working. You'd probably have to write a driver for the XBox to recognize the phone, and possibly vice versa. Definitly possible. Probably never going to happen though.

I'm doing it now. I connected the 8525 by USB to my computer. Then I open up the Internet Sharing program that uses the phone as a USB modem (I'm using Black Majic ROM btw). Then I select connect on the program on my 8525. Once it connects, I go to my Network Connections on my PC. I have the RJ-45 connected from the XBOX 360 to the ethernet port on my PC. I click once on the connection that says Local Area Connection # (mine is 13, everyones would be different) Windows Mobile Based Internet Sharing Device, then I hold Ctrl on my PC keyboard and click on the other connection (the one for my ethernet port). Once both are highlighted, you can right click on either one and select Bridge (I believe thats the one, anything that says Bridge on it) and let Windows bridge the connections and you should be set. Sorry if my explaining isn't very good.

Via a PC it should indeed be not an issue (as explained above).
To do it directly, it should work with an ethernet-bluetooth bridge. I'm
using 2 ethernet-wifi bridges to connect a TV and a PC to a wifi router,
but I'm pretty sure ethernet-bluetooth bridges also exist.
Jörg

Wow, according to drodri I was pretty close to having it right before... I will try that setup in a sec... also, is there a way to incorporate my wireless-G linksys router into this, or no? Is that in Vista?

I appreciate your input... I've done exactly the same as your setup, and when I go into Network Connections, it has the 8525 listed as Remote NDIS based Internet Sharing Device (Internet Connect #5) & the ethernet connection as Local Area Connection (Unidentified Network)... In the Network and Sharing Center, do I make the ethernet connection Private, or leave it Public? Or does it matter at all... because it still for some reason won't connect to Live, it still fails the IP test... there must be a setting or configuration I'm missing here, I just know it

You could also possibly use an ethernet to wifi device (wireless access point) to go from ethernet to wifi on the 360, then use a wireless network to the TyTN (ad-hoc mode rather than ap mode) and use that to run the connection..
but..
a) its an expensive way to do it
b) it needs extra hardware
c) it may not work (can the tytn do ICS over wifi rather than usb? DUN mode may work on the newer roms that will have it - but does DUN work over wifi)
d) the access point would need to initiate the connection to the phone while also doing dhcp for the xbox.. it should work.. and id try it for you.. except that it seems like a horribly complex way to do it.

Hmm... maybe I'll give it a shot.
Where there's a will, there's a way

I think the ideal goal here would be straight from 360 to Hermes. USB or wifi, with a small adaptor if needed. It would be beautiful if someone could write drivers so you could just plug 'er in with USB and use the built in Internet Sharing on the Hermes.
Obviously those are high hopes, and in a perfect world everything would automatically work like that. *drools over universal compatibility*

dtx said:
I think the ideal goal here would be straight from 360 to Hermes. USB or wifi, with a small adaptor if needed. It would be beautiful if someone could write drivers so you could just plug 'er in with USB and use the built in Internet Sharing on the Hermes.
Obviously those are high hopes, and in a perfect world everything would automatically work like that. *drools over universal compatibility*
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For USB The problem is the driver would have to be on the 360.. it's 100% impossible.
Even if you can run unsigned code on your 360, you'd also have to be some kind of coding,hardware modding, hacking junkie to even try to write a 360 driver; on top of which to do it for a crazy reason like interfacing to one mobile phone... that would be die hard madness!
Microsoft on the other hand could probably whip it up in 5 minutes as the xbox already supports everything that's needed except an RNDIS driver to enumerate the phone as a network card. Problem being the target audience is small; possibly even just you guys
Wifi is more likely to happen as you dont really need to modify the 360, if someone wrote a driver to make the phone look like a wireless AP (if thats possible with its wifi chipset) and assuming ICS on WM6 supports wifi connection to the PC/360 (im not sure it does) then it should work fine. (Has anyone checked if the 360 wifi adapter can support a connection to non-ap ad-hoc wifi? if it can then this might work already if you very lucky - i dont have the wifi link for my 360 or id try it)

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.......if someone wrote a driver to make the phone look like a wireless AP (if thats possible with its wifi chipset) and assuming ICS on WM6 supports wifi connection to the PC/360 (im not sure it does) then it should work fine. (Has anyone checked if the 360 wifi adapter can support a connection to non-ap ad-hoc wifi?....
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Does anybody know if there is already software to make the Hermes a WiFi-Router or make ICS make select WiFi?

I'm going to try this tonight with my regular xbox

There are already instructions on this forum for using your device as a wifi access point. It seems pretty straight-forward. So you should be able to connect any wifi client, including a wifi capable Xbox 360.
8525 / Hermes wifi AP

Hey, I actually did something similar since I didn't want to buy a $100 wireless adapter. I have a PC (but can be done with a laptop) with a wi-fi connection near my 360 all I had to do was use a patch cable to connect the PC to the 360. I am running vista, but Patch cables are hardware that tells the network card they are attached to a like device. It automatically shared my connection and we were able to go on-line. There were other ways I found that suggest changing router settings and such, but this was the easiest way. All you need now to use your phone to get your 360 on-lin is a computer

Internet Sharing With Linux

Hi,
Is there a simple way to setup a wizard which has WM6 to share internet connection with a Linux (Ubuntu) computer? Google just leads me to plenty of USB modems and such.
How can I setup the Internet Sharing?

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=400864&highlight=bluetooth+pand
the second post there should get you started.

thanx will try that out

Sorry forgot to report. Worked perfectly for me. Though I would advise anyone planning to use the connection to consider USB. I found a website (using the bluetooth connection) that guides you in using USB instead.
Works better for me unlike the bluetooth.
Thank again

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=340747

Wifi Internet Sharing

Hi Guys, My laptop wifi is broken so i'm wondering if it is possible to share my Wing's Wifi to my laptop via USB.

It is. I don't know about a default rom, but you can internet share off your phone's 3g on the rom i use, juststable. I've only figured it out for 3g though, not on a wifi network.

i''m using FingerMe currently but I used JustHome 19 before and I can't figure out how to make it work

ShuShine said:
i''m using FingerMe currently but I used JustHome 19 before and I can't figure out how to make it work
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You just run the Internet Sharing program included in the ROM, connect via USB, follow the program's directions, and you're off!
(Unless apreincher removed internet sharing...)
It should work with your WiFi connection on your phone, too.
Oh, and, on a WM6.5 ROM, it's called Modem Link.

hmmm.. i still can't make it to work. here's what I want to accomplish
- Connect my Wing to WIFI
- connect wing to laptop via USB
- share the Wing's Wifi connection with laptop
my laptop's wifi is broken so i'm currently looking for alternatives..

ShuShine said:
hmmm.. i still can't make it to work. here's what I want to accomplish
- Connect my Wing to WIFI
- connect wing to laptop via USB
- share the Wing's Wifi connection with laptop
my laptop's wifi is broken so i'm currently looking for alternatives..
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Hmm, well you said you are using the Modem Link program from WM6.5, correct???
You can install the original Internet Sharing program, here: http://thewingster.com/internetsharing.aspx
(direct download: http://thewingster.com/Documents/Internet Sharing.CAB)
Maybe that'll work for you, if you aren't using the Internet Sharing version already. And also, I think you're supposed to start the internet sharing, and then connect your USB. Otherwise ActiveSync might interferre.

ace, have you actually done this?
As far as I know, the default Internet Sharing program wont actually share the phone's wifi connection with the host computer.
The solution is to use Internet Connection Sharing Control v0.21, which is a third party application that was created specifically for arranging the data stream however you want. The author touts it as being capable of "Wifi to USB - basically the pda acts as a wireless network card for the PC (neat, eh?)." Looks like it might be a somewhat complicated program to figure out, but it should accomplish whatever he's asking.

dumpydooby said:
ace, have you actually done this?
As far as I know, the default Internet Sharing program wont actually share the phone's wifi connection with the host computer.
The solution is to use Internet Connection Sharing Control v0.21, which is a third party application that was created specifically for arranging the data stream however you want. The author touts it as being capable of "Wifi to USB - basically the pda acts as a wireless network card for the PC (neat, eh?)." Looks like it might be a somewhat complicated program to figure out, but it should accomplish whatever he's asking.
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The default Internet Sharing program has a connection called WModemLink, which might be WiFi.
I never tried it though, so it's true that the third-party app is probably better.

dumpydooby said:
ace, have you actually done this?
As far as I know, the default Internet Sharing program wont actually share the phone's wifi connection with the host computer.
The solution is to use Internet Connection Sharing Control v0.21, which is a third party application that was created specifically for arranging the data stream however you want. The author touts it as being capable of "Wifi to USB - basically the pda acts as a wireless network card for the PC (neat, eh?)." Looks like it might be a somewhat complicated program to figure out, but it should accomplish whatever he's asking.
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WOW!! Thanks a lot. its working now!
I set the PUBLIC INTERFACE to TIACXWLN1 (WIFI ADAPTER)
and set the PRIVATE INTERFACE to RNDISFN1 (USB ADAPTER)

ShuShine said:
WOW!! Thanks a lot. its working now!
I set the PUBLIC INTERFACE to TIACXWLN1 (WIFI ADAPTER)
and set the PRIVATE INTERFACE to RNDISFN1 (USB ADAPTER)
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it's working before... I just reflashed and now its not working.. hmmmm.. can't remember if i installed something to make it work

ShuShine said:
it's working before... I just reflashed and now its not working.. hmmmm.. can't remember if i installed something to make it work
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it's working now! i just used the CAB installer

Bluetooth PAN Possible?

I searched quite a bit and it seems that there is still no option of connecting the Vogue to the internet through Bluetooth PAN and PC's internet connection. Can anyone confirm that PAN is still not possible with the Vogue.
Thanks

Lewy1 said:
I searched quite a bit and it seems that there is still no option of connecting the Vogue to the internet through Bluetooth PAN and PC's internet connection. Can anyone confirm that PAN is still not possible with the Vogue.
Thanks
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I set up a working pan a couple of years ago. The problem is that the framework doesn't recognize pan as a valid internet connection, so the connection checks for browser, market, etc. fail. The only way I know it was working is that Google maps worked. Go figure...
that problem may not exist in the cm builds. I have no clue what build I was using when I tried it.

Thanks, I'll have to look in to that.

so it doesn't seem to work.

I'd love a solution to this problem too.
Right now, I can't connect to the internet with my Vogue because it is unactivated. I've been trying to get a Bluetooth PAN to work for the past year or so, but I've given up. It's just too old to be worth it!