O2 XDA Mini S - using without a SIM card? - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General

Hi everyone.
OK. So, I've got an XDA Mini S and I've just got to the end of my O2 contract, so they've sent me a free phone (which is nice). It's a Walkman phone, which I'd like to use.
Therefore, I'll have to remove the SIM from my Mini S and put it in the new phone (I'm continuing with the same contract, so there's no new SIM). This actually suits me, because although I think the Mini S is a great PDA, I don't think much of it as a phone. Plus, my use of it is pretty heavy, so if I ALSO use it as a music player, the battery's dead in no time at all.
So what I'd like to do is be able to use the Mini S to still do text messages and email, but send and recieve them by connecting to GPRS via Bluetooth through the new mobile (with the SIM in it). Expect I can't figure out how to set up the Mini S to do this. Can anyone help?
Sorry if this is all a bit garbled
Thanks in advance.

I'd think doing the email would be easy... but as most sony phones are a little trashy (in my opinion) I doubt they will do the text message passthrough thingy some of the good phones have, mainly nokias.
To get the email working, you'll need to setup the GPRS connection on your sony one, then turn it's bluetooth on (make sure it's discoverable). Then search for the services supported on it, using the wizard. You're looking for "dial-up networking". Select this, and then try and dial the connection from the bluetooth config panel thingy. If I remember correctly (not done this since back in the WM2003 days), you need to dial *10# or summit from the wizard, then it will connect to the sony phone via bluetooth, and start the GPRS connection. Once it has dialed, just use the wizard as you would have done before.
I'm sorry if ti's a little vague, as I mentioned i've not had to do this for a couple of years. I'm someone will say if i've missed something out...
Hope it helps you

Well, an idea. Why don't you get the SIM into the miniS and use the Sony as walkman without the SIM? Else, sell the Sony and get yourself multiple (and larger capacity) battery for your miniS?

hanmin said:
Well, an idea. Why don't you get the SIM into the miniS and use the Sony as walkman without the SIM? Else, sell the Sony and get yourself multiple (and larger capacity) battery for your miniS?
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Well, I initially thought I'd have no use for the new phone, but I like the idea of the music player being the same system as that for answering calls - if I'm listening to music on the new phone, I'm not going to miss a call (and this is something I'm likely to do as it's my work mobile). I have a bigger battery for the Mini S, but it makes the phone into a bit of a lump and still only gets me a day and a half of normal use (which doesn't include listening to music). And swapping the battery means restarting the Pocket PC, which is a bind.
Thanks for your reply, Brins0 - I'll give it a try. I think you might be onto something with the code for the phone to dial into GPRS. I think it might also want a "standard" O2 username/passowrd, though I'm not sure what these are. If anyone else has any thoughts, I'd love to hear them.

Mannish Boy said:
Well, I initially thought I'd have no use for the new phone, but I like the idea of the music player being the same system as that for answering calls - if I'm listening to music on the new phone, I'm not going to miss a call (and this is something I'm likely to do as it's my work mobile). I have a bigger battery for the Mini S, but it makes the phone into a bit of a lump and still only gets me a day and a half of normal use (which doesn't include listening to music). And swapping the battery means restarting the Pocket PC, which is a bind.
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Yeah, I know it is good to have a music player with a phone function. However, for my case, its the vibration that alerted me on in coming calls most of the time. It is SMS vibration that I've missed.
Anyway, I'm impressed that you can get a miniS dead in a day and a half without music. You do talk a lot on the phone, huh? I talk on average 30 mins on the phone and it lasted me 3-4 days on a full charge, on a normal battery. Well, anyway, consider the size of the screen and power of the phone, you can't compete with a Sony phone, say W610, which has a rated talk time of 7 hours (gsmarena) and Wizard's 4 hours. Sony *is* pretty good in what they do.
ANYWAY, good news for you is that, I did manage to tried to sync my SE T630 (old one) with my PC before using IR connection using software found on (myt630.net) and I can send SMS (via the phone) using my PC. However, getting the SMS is another story, I think I'll have to do a check-mail thing (eg, pull) on the phone to get new SMSs, it doesn't seems to do a push (that's 3-4 years ago, my memory is failing me). So, I'm pretty sure that Sony's phone is able to get you to send SMSs without problems AND I've seen software for Palm that enables you to send SMS using phone connected via IR and BTooth and I'm sure you get that for PocketPC. So, for SMS you'll probably need to use other software that is meant for real pocket pc (eg without phone function) to send your SMS.
Anyway, let us know of your progress. Like, how good is the Sony phone in terms of battery life with and without the music
UPDATE: This is an example
http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/wireless/2002/12/13/sms_pocketpc.html
though I was looking for something that cost $0.

Your right about my heavy use of the Mini S. I don't actually make that many calls, but I do use the PDA functions a hell of a lot. I also rely heavily on email for work, so being able to leave the Mini S connect to ActiveSync via Bluetooth has given me a lot of freedom to move around the house - at the expense of flattening the battery pretty quickly. One thing I've noticed already is that the battery does a lot better when it's not connected to a phone network. I wouldn't have expected that to take much power, but there you go.
Anyway, I've figured out how to use the email function through the phone. I set up a new dail-up connection which connects to O2's mobileweb GPRS. The reason I struggled to begin with is that I was entering the APN (on the Mini S) as "mobile.o2.co.uk", which I think would work IF I was connecting directly from the Mini S. BUT, what I needed to do was enter the APN as *99# (found that on the web somewhere) which prompts the PHONE to connect to O2's mobileweb, and therefore allow the Mini S a GPRS data line. Hope that makes sense! Phew!
As for SMS, you're right: I need a third party program to allow that. I was hoping the Text Messages part of the Mini S's Messaging application could be reconfigured, but it doeesn't look likely. Can anyone recommend a good, third party SMS program for Windows Mobile 5?
Thanks everyone!

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Anyone? ........ can't believe im the only one?

Hi All
wonder if anyone else has had issues with bluetooth and infra red transmission? i can pair perfectly with any device but as soon as i try and transmit files or someone transmits to me it fails immediately...........??no reason for error and no error except "failed".
I had this functioning perfectly for one day and now it just does not work....reset handset (hard reset) and setup again....still wont work.....
Anyone help please? i really have given up with calling 02 support, ittakes like an age to get someone on the phone and only occasionaly do you get anyone thats even touched the device! sorry to any 02 support people who do know what they are talking about but when i ask you people about vpn/terminal services over wifi i expect you to know what vpn means at least!....jeeees
Cheers
damsnell said:
Anyone help please? i really have given up with calling 02 support, ittakes like an age to get someone on the phone and only occasionaly do you get anyone thats even touched the device! sorry to any 02 support people who do know what they are talking about but when i ask you people about vpn/terminal services over wifi i expect you to know what vpn means at least!....jeeees
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Seems a little harsh. I don't suppose the O2 support team are trained in the sort of networking technologies that you mention, since O2 is a mobile phone company, not a Windows or networking consultancy. They're more your average customer-services kinda folk. Try asking them about O2's services, phone options or tariffs.
Oh. Hold on. I did, and they were crap. :shock: :roll: The first operator told me that video calling on my monthly tariff costs 50p per minute. The second operator confirmed that (for the forseeable future) the calls are inclusive, in your montly minutes.
I don't think O2's customer service is great, but I would't call them expecting help on networking or Windows technologies.
PS. No offence intended, hence the
How many devices have you tried to pair it with? The problem may not be with the stack on the XDA but the other device.
Broon said:
How many devices have you tried to pair it with? The problem may not be with the stack on the XDA but the other device.
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Yep, i would also ask the same. Maybe you have tried this: ( I think no pairing even needed)
Go to file explore;. tap and hold on a small file. Choose beam. Then you should see: Infrared, and under it: searching.
Does it find the other Bluetooth device?
Huib
Ive had a few problems with pairing up with the XDA IIi (my other phone)
Same thing, just randomly fails. Going to try it with an S very soon.
why should O2 support WiFi and VPN such?
These are things which are not network related thus, O2 cannot be held responsibile for any of these not working.
Wifi will work if its setup correctly. Every single Wifi setup is different in some way shape or form which is why mobile phone operators wont support features like this. However if you cant make a phonecall, send a txt or MMS im sure they would get the problem solved.
At the end of the day guys yes 02 are responsible for only call related stuff, but to sell equipment and not know what it does and how to support it is crap! (sorry but it is!).
Wifi works perfectly and i have had no issues with this, bluetooth will pair with devices but send and receive to none...have tried my tablet pc, Samsung D600, Nokia 6230 etc....all fail.....
VPN over wifi does not work correctly unless you can hit a public DNS address (i.e doesnt work via I.P).....however it does work over 3G??? funny that isnt it....the free way of connecting to my office or other servers doesnt work but but the expensive way does???hmmmmm
Anyway i'm moaning too much now, its a nice phone and things kinda work but i'm not overly impressed! bluetooth is something i do use as is terminal services and it'd be nice if they both worked as i would expect.....
Cheers

T-Mobile MDA-Pro - Irritations

Hi,
Just got an MDA-Pro, and found the following PIE irritations, does anyone have any solutions:
- When I run PIE, I always get a box saying "You are about to go online..." and have to accept. As I've an unlimited data SIM I just want to go online. Anyone know how to get rid of the box?
- Although I configure my PIE homepage as something useful (ie. Yellow Pages), when I always get a T-Mobile page. I don't want my MNO to keep burning my bytes with this, how do I get rid of?
- When I connection to Exchange OMA, I authenticate OK and get the Home page, but when I tap "Inbox" (or whatever), the link won't display, and PIE reports it's as a result of "security settings". This works fine however from my PC and cellphone so it's not my Exchange server.
Appreciate all you know.
br
I agree - very annoying! I have the same problem on my MDA Vario. If I hard-reset and skip the T-mobile customizations, I can avoid this - but it's not really a solution. It's really bugging me now because I've installed Spb Pocket Plus so I can have multiple browser windows. When you open a link 'in a new window', instead of getting the URL you chose, you get the T-mobile pop-up and it automatically takes you to their home page. Pretty outrageous presumption, really.
I've sussed it! Delete this key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\PIEPlug
Ta da!
Thanks! Just tried it and now I have a spam free PIE - nice one.
Hi bosseye,
I am very interested in your unlimited data SIM. How much does it cost per month and is it still available?
Also, if you are using Exchange, why not just set Active Sync to Sync with Exchange, which is what I have done? Then you won't use PIE for email, jsut for browsing. 8)
Hi Melty,
The T-Mobile SIM is in fact their TM Communication Centre which is an unlimited 3G/GPRS SIM (1GB fair usage) and integrated WiFi/3G/GPRS PCMCIA card through their business sales group and currently on offer at £45.96 per month. It also includes 5000 mins per month Hotspot access (both T-Mobile and BT-Openzone). In short, it's exactly what I needed as I'm more data centric than voice. And its a winner if your laptop hasn't got WiFi too (although mine has).
I currently switch this SIM between my MDA Pro and PC as required, simply because the MDA Pro is truly woeful as a voice device (I won't rant further!), so the Web'n'walk SIM that I got with the MDA Pro is now in a Nokia handset for my voice calls. I'll shortly experiment with the MDA Pro as a 3G modem for the PC over Bluetooth to save moving the SIM.
In respect of Exchange, I do indeed use the MDA Pro to activesync to Exchange over 3G/GPRS, and this is where the 3G of the MDA Pro really scores (it rather becomes a laptop replacement some days of the week). It is an awesome data device once you're not bothered about data volumes, so FTP and Telnet become really useful in a systems environment (but I'm struggling with the VPN as Connection Manager befuddles me). It's just strange that it cannot display the OWA pages, not that I'd use it much, but I'd like to understand why not (thereby having a backup if I get messed up with EAS).
What we really need for the MDA Pro is the AKU2 ROM upgrade, that should provide real-time messaging, and hopefully a much needed performance improvement, and stops the damn thing crashing so often. I particularly like the one where it still flashes its little green "GSM" light when it has in fact crashed hours ago and is not receiving either voice or data!!!
Prior to AKU2/MSFP, I have experimented with Scheduled Sync over-the-air to Exchange, but this seems unreliable. Perhaps its OK if there's always a network when it tries to connect, but gets upset when there's not. Would be interested in any tweaks to it error handling in this respect, or indeed some hints on VPN.
Hope this helps.

still no phone calls??

any news on making phone calls in SnapVue mode??
that's the only thing that stops me in buying this device..
mubasa said:
any news on making phone calls in SnapVue mode??
that's the only thing that stops me in buying this device..
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if someone finds out how to make phone calls on the Shift, there will be a big sticky...so...not yet
Isn't the Shift too small for a phone?
try to imagine it in windows mobile mode, in a bag near yr documents with a bluetooth headset connected and voice dialing enabled..
it'd be perfect for me, and when i need it i could turn vista on and use autocad or office, or outlook for a better email experience..
too bad that the phone capability is not enabled..yet.
mubasa said:
try to imagine it in windows mobile mode, in a bag near yr documents with a bluetooth headset connected and voice dialing enabled..
it'd be perfect for me, and when i need it i could turn vista on and use autocad or office, or outlook for a better email experience..
too bad that the phone capability is not enabled..yet.
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I agree. It would be a great to have the phone enabled. Would make my life easier....
I am not sure if the capability is there but if it can be enabled, someone here will find a way.
Personally, I prefer to use my phone for calls, and use this device for its intended purpose of a fully data enabled UMPC, WiFi and 3G/HSDPA. I use this and phone together to get maximum bandwidth out of the network.
My online TV would slow down too much if it had to take a phone call at the same time on one device!!
Farsquidge said:
I am not sure if the capability is there but if it can be enabled, someone here will find a way.
Personally, I prefer to use my phone for calls, and use this device for its intended purpose of a fully data enabled UMPC, WiFi and 3G/HSDPA. I use this and phone together to get maximum bandwidth out of the network.
My online TV would slow down too much if it had to take a phone call at the same time on one device!!
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lol u're right..but I have an iPhone for my personal line and a nokia e90 for my business line..I'd reeeeeally like to substitute the e90 with the shift..I mean both of them are ment to be carried in a bag (it's impossible to fit the e90 in a pocket and feel confy tough)..
anyways I just bought my brand new shift x9500..I'll get it after tomorrow..In this time I'll do a donation to the shift project team hoping that they'll find the way

Data Plan-less Vogue

I got an HTC Touch from Verizon because I wanted to get away from the clutches of Verizon's lousy software they cripple every phone with and it was the cheapest WinMo phone they sold (I got it for $40.) I got the phone and stuck with my current plan ($10 add-on line on family plan.) I am cheap, my family is cheap, so we have no data plan. We can't afford a data plan, so gettign one is not an option (sorry, maybe someday in the future.)
Is there anything good I can do with my HTC Touch that doesn't require data? Is it worth flashing to a custom firmware? Is it worth installing Android? Or should I just forget it all and stick with the stock configuration?
blueblur1986 said:
I got an HTC Touch from Verizon because I wanted to get away from the clutches of Verizon's lousy software they cripple every phone with and it was the cheapest WinMo phone they sold (I got it for $40.) I got the phone and stuck with my current plan ($10 add-on line on family plan.) I am cheap, my family is cheap, so we have no data plan. We can't afford a data plan, so gettign one is not an option (sorry, maybe someday in the future.)
Is there anything good I can do with my HTC Touch that doesn't require data? Is it worth flashing to a custom firmware? Is it worth installing Android? Or should I just forget it all and stick with the stock configuration?
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Without data, you can text, call, listen to music, take pics, and download movies to the SD card from your computer.
Is this guy slow or something. You can do anything that doesn't use data, so the obvious things it can do were mentioned by the previous user. C'mon man, what a waste of time.
Well, actualy, pretty much anything "Android" is needing data, so stick with WinMo.
And then, you still has a GPS with Camera, music and video capacity. Pretty neat on it's own!
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Well, actualy, pretty much anything "Android" is needing data, so stick with WinMo.
And then, you still has a GPS with Camera, music and video capacity. Pretty neat on it's own!
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Well, the GPS isn't much good if you can't download maps.
You can still use it with TomTom or Garmin.
Ok, Android is out of the Question due to it's heavy reliance of data.
Is there a better Camera or video recording app than the one included? It takes decent photos, but the gallery is pokey. Video recording is lousy quality no matter what setting I put it on (hoping to get QVGA resolution at 15-25fps.)
If I want to use GPS, is TomTom or Garmin better? Which flash file is best for allowing use of GPS without Verizon navigator or some add-on service.
Also, is there any flash that helps to minimize memory card corruption? I have an 8GB microSD card and it seems to corrupt anytime I write files through the phone. I can take it out and use an adapter to load music and movies, but installing apps is usually the death of the card.
Sorry if I sound like a rookie, I have messed with RAZR flashing and game console soft-modding, but not much Windows Mobile experience.
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Ok, Android is out of the Question due to it's heavy reliance of data.
Is there a better Camera or video recording app than the one included? It takes decent photos, but the gallery is pokey. Video recording is lousy quality no matter what setting I put it on (hoping to get QVGA resolution at 15-25fps.)
If I want to use GPS, is TomTom or Garmin better? Which flash file is best for allowing use of GPS without Verizon navigator or some add-on service.
Also, is there any flash that helps to minimize memory card corruption? I have an 8GB microSD card and it seems to corrupt anytime I write files through the phone. I can take it out and use an adapter to load music and movies, but installing apps is usually the death of the card.
Sorry if I sound like a rookie, I have messed with RAZR flashing and game console soft-modding, but not much Windows Mobile experience.
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I am with you brother as VZW BLOWS!!! Unfortunately that is who my work plan & I don’t have a choice. I was going to buy a Touch Pro without a data plan but the pricks wouldn’t activate the phone without a data plan which I still fail to understand.
I believe that NFSFAN’s 6.5 ROM does have a slightly better camera & video camera option. It is the same software & only the registry settings are tweaked.
GPS is whole another issue & be prepared to do a lot of reading. Again you are going to want to use NFSFAN’s ROM for GPS. Just trust me on this one. GPS will work with the stock ROM but you will have to soft reset your phone every time you want to use it. These threads should help you out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4082403&postcount=1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=537360
I have not had any memory card issues. I take mine out & put it back in all the time. I could be just that you have a bad card. Some of the Kingston cards do have this issue.
Also note that flashing a custom ROM will void whatever warranty you may have.
I'm not too worried about the warranty, if I was I wouldn't be here!
Anyhow, sounds like I will get the best mileage out of flashing the NFSFAN WinMo 6.5 ROM and then activating the GPS ala instructions found on this forum and a wiki page I found while searching around.
I still need to read up a bit about the flashing process. I flashed a few RAZRs to play around, but they weren't activated and the process for WinMo is quite different.
For very cheap you can also get a usb bluetooth for your computer, then setup activesync via bluetooth, which will provide you pass-through internet over bluetooth while in range and connected to activesync via bluetooth. That means while in your home (generally in the same room) as a the bluetoothed computer, you will be able to use any internet services on the phone as well.
Is there a guide to setup passthrough internet via bluetooth with ActiveSync?
I already have bluetooth built into my laptop (it's a Macbook Pro, running Windows 7 for for ActiveSync and gaming) so essentially it would be free, but I don't want to accidentally go on Verizon's data (I am on the pay-per-MB plan because I signed up online and couldn't choose no data.)
blueblur1986 said:
I got an HTC Touch from Verizon because I wanted to get away from the clutches of Verizon's lousy software they cripple every phone with and it was the cheapest WinMo phone they sold (I got it for $40.)
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If you're willing to come off of VZW, another possibility is PagePlus. It is prepaid and uses the VZW network. You can stay on it for as little as $4/mo.
As far as data... You can do pay as you go for data, OR, the service gives you free QNC (free slow data), but you have to figure out how to get your device to use QNC (14kbs). People have successfully used PP QNC with Treos, Moto Q's and HTC 6700's.
I believe there is an app that allows you to toggle data usage on your phone so you can avoid getting charged by accidentally using data. I believe it is linked in Codybear's FAQ and you may need a custom ROM for it to work.
blueblur1986 said:
Is there anything good I can do with my HTC Touch that doesn't require data? Is it worth flashing to a custom firmware? Is it worth installing Android? Or should I just forget it all and stick with the stock configuration?
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I am in the same situation! I purchased the phone 2 months ago and I just wanted a smartphone i.e. something to download programs on to that I don't have to pay for. I really like NFSFAN's winmo 6.5 ROM. The latest version is very good and I would consider flashing. Btw Stock config really sucks at least flash to something aesthetically pleasing!
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Btw Stock config really sucks at least flash to something aesthetically pleasing!
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You mean like Android? (No, android isn't flashable yet, but it can be booted from any GPS-enabled WM ROM.)
Android is good, I'm running it on my Vogue. I don't have a data plan either... and Android really makes you wish you had one.
A good program for WinMo for those without data plans is SmartTouch. It gathers all sorts of SMS services into one and does all the Google SMS stuff, Facebook, IM, Yellowpages, etc. I have unlimited texts and no data so when I was using WinMo I relied on that a lot.
You guys are gonna kill me, but I don't have texting either. I got to choose the phone and have no say over the plan. I have pay-per-text and pay-per-data. My plan is the standard $10 add-on line for FamilyShare 700min basic plan. We have 5 lines total, so we are pinching pennies hence no text or data.
On a side note, I seem to be having trouble finding a guide/sticky on how to flash NSFAN's 6.5 ROM and setup my phone after the upgrade to use it on Verizon (I know with RAZRs you had to do some crazy crap with reprogramming and Seem edits and such, which I never did get since I only flashed a de-activated phone.) I know it deals with something RUU or RRU or something. Any pointers are appreciated!
lotherius said:
For very cheap you can also get a usb bluetooth for your computer, then setup activesync via bluetooth, which will provide you pass-through internet over bluetooth while in range and connected to activesync via bluetooth. That means while in your home (generally in the same room) as a the bluetoothed computer, you will be able to use any internet services on the phone as well.
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how can i do this!? my phone only need bluetooth correct? because the sprint vogue "doesn't have" wifi
You need to buy a USB "Bluetooth Dongle" for your PC. This will allow your PC and phone to connect via the PAN (Personal Area Network) capabilites of the Bluetooth stack.
Bluetooth dongles are incredibly cheap thru Amazon. It is a little quirky to set up but works great.
Buy the dongle and install the drivers.
Install ActiveSync.
Turn on the your phones Bluetooth and make it visible.
Go to ActiveSync on your phone and under "menu" select "connect via bluetooth"
Now you may need help figuring out how to make it all connect, but do the above first... then ask questions if you are unable to get it to setup correctly.
I have this setup working flawlessly on my Samsung i760...
I will admit I am having trouble getting the Vogue to connect "flawlessly", but that is likely due to the "quirkiness" of this kind of connection.
HIYinOR said:
You need to buy a USB "Bluetooth Dongle" for your PC. This will allow your PC and phone to connect via the PAN (Personal Area Network) capabilites of the Bluetooth stack.
Bluetooth dongles are incredibly cheap thru Amazon. It is a little quirky to set up but works great.
Buy the dongle and install the drivers.
Install ActiveSync.
Turn on the your phones Bluetooth and make it visible.
Go to ActiveSync on your phone and under "menu" select "connect via bluetooth"
Now you may need help figuring out how to make it all connect, but do the above first... then ask questions if you are unable to get it to setup correctly.
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actually i dont have activesync i have mobile device center because i have windows vista [windows 7] they are both the same....could you help me to use it?

What to do with my G1 thats not being used?

So, I've gone out and bought the MyTouch 3g Slide, and most likely won't be going back to use my G1 as my daily driver. I have no plans to sell the G1, well, not yet anyways.
So what can be done with my G1? I was thinking of maybe using it as a navigation-only device. Problem is, with no SIM, I of course would need a nav system that stores the maps on the SD card. The phone is rooted, so I was wondering whats the best way to try and trim this phone down to almost nothing, so that all it will basically be able to do is load the nav app I install. Is this possible or already done?
I really liked this device. It did pop my Android cherry after all, and I don't just want it to collect dust.
Thanks in advance.
Edit: I intentionally posted this in General, but after re-reading this, would it make more sense to post this in the Development forum? Can a mod move it if so...?
put it in a box and ship it to me this way your not selling it.... your giving it away
yeah... send it my way. My kid has been ogling my G1 forever now. He wants one soooo bad. LOL.
OK, aside from selling it, or giving it away, what else...
I've often thought of what to do with my G1 when and if a successor becomes available.
I personally would love it if some developers could get together to make a rom that would resemble what the Ipod Touch is to the Iphone. All the programs and games, no phone bits. Just use it as a personal media player. Or in my case, i use it as a wifi remote for my HTPC also.
Oh, and does it make you wonder..when 2.2 source is available to the public, would trimming out all the telephone parts make the G1(with dangerspl) upgradeable again?
Cancel your home landline, put google voice on the g1, keep it connected to wi-fi all the time, and you got free nation wide calling and a cheap international calling. Also since it is connected to wi-fi, you can still use it as a phone.
Send it to me pretty please (I need to update my N95).
... Okay fine, how about charity?
LOL ...no?
Well aside from using it as:
a second phone,
Digital camera (poor one),
PMP/iPod (listen to music/watch pictures/videos),
Portable gaming console (Atari, C64, Sega Genesis, GBA, SNES and Android games),
Home entertainment unit (surf on your couch with wifi) and
eBook reader (nonetheless poorly).
I can't think of anything else.
If you can't find another use for it besides just a mobile phone, you're really missing out and should just post it to me
Definitly new ipod or home phone
there's a pretty nifty howto over at instructables.com on using the G1 to power a home-made robot
http://www.instructables.com/id/Android-G1-Serial-To-Arduino/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=541177&highlight=wifi+talk
I have mine on wifi and setup like this.. pretty cool as I now can use it as separate phone while at work, home etc .. and with the app penetrate I get even more use of the wifi
jamesd86 said:
I've often thought of what to do with my G1 when and if a successor becomes available.
I personally would love it if some developers could get together to make a rom that would resemble what the Ipod Touch is to the Iphone. All the programs and games, no phone bits. Just use it as a personal media player. Or in my case, i use it as a wifi remote for my HTPC also.
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Ya know, I am planning on upgrading to the Touch Slide or whatever in a few months when I can afford it...when I do, I might just whip something up ROM wise that has no phone bits, but strictly media apps like:
WIFI Remote for various HTPC frontends (XBMC, MediaPortal, etc)
Music Apps (stock music, 3, etc)
Anything else I can think of
I think that would be a fun project. And considering everything in my home is OpenSource, it shouldn't be all that hard to find (or create) all the apps I need.
That sir, would be pimp.
But to cut down the rom size why not make those a flashable addon? Make it so they install to sd automatically maybe? The biggest thing would be to fit 2.2 on the phone, with support for apps to sd, jit, and all the other delicious froyo goodness.
Thanks for listening.
Use it as a dedicated SIP phone in wifi areas.
First get a google voice number and a gizmo5 sip number.
Forward your GV number to your regular cell number as well as your gizmo5 sip number using sipdroid (market) on the G1, so that when you're in wifi areas both your cell and your g1 will ring. Now you can answer either based on whatever... caller, importance, etc.
Make outgoing calls in wifi using all of the above and the GV callback program (market) so as to make totally free calls. Add some money to google voice for international.
Use it on the tabletop like a pda and take calls on your cell. actually very convenient. I've got a clamshell which I prefer for talking and can take more abuse than the G1.
Get a Tmobile $100 prepaid sim which is good for a year. That's 10c min and your own number for a year! ..and if you add any money to it the expiration is extended to a year from the add. At that price you can throw it in the car for 11 months and forget about it only to switch it to another phone later.
Put 2 grooves in it and call it an ashtray. -Bill Cosby
i have a retired htc magician which i am using as an alarm clock and listening to audio books. It served me well over the years. Was my first HTC phone. Battery still lasts more than a week...

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