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Saw the other thread where the other guy initially could and then lost the ability to ActiveSync to his PC - exactly the same has happened to me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=42520
Here is what I tried and it worked:
* Connect Pocket PC
* Go to Network Connections and Find the Local Area Network Connection for the Pocket PC
* Properties
* Make sure TCPIP is selected
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"Find the Local Area Network Connection for the Pocket PC" - NOPE!! no matter how many icons & tabs etc I tap, i simply CANNOT find this!
What I get on my PC is:
USB Device not recognised: Q: Is there a USB driver I need to install & if so where can I get it from (via the internet).
What I get on my Uni (eventually) is:
Pocket PC Networking
Unable to obtain a server-assinged
IP address. Try again later or
enter an IP address in Network Settings
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Server-assigned IP address??? You're kidding me right? I think I need some insight into what ActiveSync is actually doing here!
Yep, it's rant time boys & girls....
Now as an aside, is it just me but is something basically amiss with these things - Sync'ing to a PC SHOULD BE A BLOODY DODDLE- EASY - NO DICKING ABOUT, but hell no - infinite levels of crap to wade through encountering insane use of TLAs (yep, there you go, another one). God, why can't they K I S S ???? (and another one). What I mean is that I've been using PCs since day dot. I am an honours degree qualified electronics engineer - I desgin hardware & write real time embedded software systems, so if I am getting pi$$ed off with the damn thing, what chance has your average mug in the street??????? :shock:
Andy (currently rigging up a sturdy hessian rope with a noose in it)
PS
TLA = Three Letter Anacroynims (sp)
K I S S KEEP IT SIMPLE! STUPID.
Good-o, know one knows how to do this (what should be simple, but hell no) task.
Bloody great!
Can't sync to a PC, can't install any programs, utterly useless as a PPC device all down to some sh1te convoluted bollocks piece of software.
I can now measure time wasted in YEARs on similar, badly written software.
Andy
hey dude
take a few deep breaths and lets start at the beginning eh
this should be a simple straight forward process and suspect you have missed the simple bit and launched straight into complex related issues, I suspect that it relates to the using of a USB Hub.
so lets "KISS" ehm, slight cough, blush
1. Dont use a USB hub
2. Delete all partnerships that you have created on both the PC and the PPC
3. Ensure you are running XP SP2 on the PC
4. Ensure you are running ActiveSync 4.1
5. Reboot both the PC and soft reset PPC
6. Go into task manager on the PPC and ensure activesync didnt auto start on soft reset
7. Open outlook on the PC and ensure it is upto date and connected if you are running it with exchange
8. Plug the PPC via the Sync cable directly into the USB port on the PC (not a hub)
9. Wizard should start, at this point, untick the box about exchange server
10. Following the wizard, deselect all options for synchronisation
(we can add some options later, but lets get to the basic partnership setup first)
Now then, those are the simple basic steps. What I would like to know before we get much further is:
1. What do you see? Did you get a wizard pop up to create the partnership?
2. Did you successfully create the partnership
3. Did it synchronise on the activesync screen
4. Did you get an error message on the PC? If so what is the description? If so, go to the PPC open up activesync on the PPC and tell me what the error code is, if any and details of last sync?
If you have successfully created your partnership and it says synchroniZed even though nothing is actually sync'd yet, we have a good start. You can now start installing programs before we sync any data.
I personally choose to extract the cab files that are used during the sync file and copy them to my SD card so I dont need an activesync connection to install.
The CAB files are normally located in \program files\microsoft activesync\ once you have run the setup program on the PC. Alternatively, they can be found in their own personal program directory. I have only ever found one situation that I couldnt find the cab file for. Now all of my source programs are on an SD card and can be reinstalled anytime, anywhere without my PC.
Eitherway, if this is now working, and you have your partnership, first sync something simple like your favourites, or files.
Once this happens, can you now choose just your contacts, then your calendar, then your tasks.
At this point, you can move one step further and decide whether you would like to use your outlook email to sync directly, or through a GPRS/WIFI facility directly to an exchange server.
Okidoki
Thats enough for now. Lets get back to the beginning and work through this simply.
Some other forums that may help....
Morphosin found solutions to his here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=40646&highlight=
and some more
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=42540&highlight=85010014
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=37039&highlight=85010014
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=24184&highlight=85010014
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=42088&highlight=85010014
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=40900&highlight=85010014
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=39259&highlight=85010014
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=38453&highlight=85010014
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=35449&highlight=85010014
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=34598&highlight=85010014
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=31478&highlight=85010014
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=27636&highlight=85010014
as is obvious, you are not the only one. So some deep breaths, tell me what is going on, try to follow the above, read up on issues faced by others and see if they can assist, then let me know how you go and we can start to trouble shoot. I assure you it will be simple, and even if I cant help, each time we communicate this discussion will bounce to the top again and people far more knowledge that us will but in say, hey morons, click here and its done... and all will go away.
Cheeers
@simon_darley thank you very much that was very helpful (btw, no hubs to speak of).
Story so far.
Let me get this off my chest first...
OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!
How friggin COMPLICATED can something get???? 2 days of searching, reading, installing, uninstalling, falling down holes & climbing out again, faffing & frigging about. All of it needlessly!
Bad buggy software - as a result, many hoops to jump through.
See these were my goals & I think I have it (almost) all sussed now:
1) Sync to PC via a physical USB cable - easy? - nope. ONLY reason to do this is for installation of software. (Sod that sync tasks bollocks, I couldn't give a toss). A little snipped from some dude (here) mentioned the fact that this was unnecessary & could be achived via copying CAB files onto SD media & then installing software on the PPC itself - GREAT :lol:
2) WiFi connection (at work) so I could browse the internet - why? Because it was there & I was interested to see if I could do it. 3 hours later I'm in - thankyou very much! :wink: Some arsehole programmer thought it would be a good idea to make the SSID (a 26 character HEX code), CASE SENSITIVE and relay the keystrokes back to the user as a series of sodding '*'s.... :evil: In the process I've had to learn all sorts of stuff about EAP, LEAP, WiFi LAN access point (Beacons), Wireless clients, The 802.11 standard & hence WEP (and dynamic WEP keys), SSID, EAP, LEAP, WPA TKIP & finally the fact that of all those listed, my PDA uses the adapter: "tiacxwln Compatable Wireless Ethernet": to use server-assigned IP addresses (i.e. use DHCP).
3) A nice simple BlueTooth connection to my PC so that I can browse the internet on my PDA while my wife does the same on the PC - This turned out to be a TWO DAY exercise: Let me list some problems.
Bug - Can't use the WinXP SP2 Bluetooth drivers.
Bug - Can't install the WIDCOMM drivers as they are not certified. (There is a workaround guide, but COME ON GUYS!!).
Bug - If you've pissed about with BlueTooth COM ports, WIDCOMM can't 'go back' as it were to use the lower COM ports (COM9 & below), the assigned COM ports keep increasing. This would be fine if it were not for a ...
BUG - PDA BlueTooth can only use COM ports up to COM9 :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
ARRRRRRRRRRRGH
Hence: Had to uninstall WIDCOMM
Hence: Had to reinstall WinXP BlueTooth driver
Hence: could then (in a convoluted manner) 'recover' the com ports from COM9 and below.
Hence: Then had to uninstall the WinXP USB Driver
Hence: Then had to reinstall the WIDCOM drivers (and go through all that certification bollox again).
Hence: The PC Could then be set up to use a Serial Comms 'service' on a COM port assignment on a COM9 port or less!!!!
Hence: Then had to REBOOT
Hence: Then had to remove any partnerships
Hence: Then had to use a password OF MORE THAN 8 CHARACTERS - some guy mentioned It does allow you to enter less than 8 characters but doing so screws thing up. ARRRGH AGIAN :twisted:
Hence: New partnership on PPC
FINALLY A BLUETOOTH LINK to the PPC
More dicking about making my internet connection an available 'service' over Bluetooth'
FINALLY get to connect to the internet :lol: :lol: :lol:
But, hold on, the fat bird isn't singing yet, GPRS is now sticking it's nose in insisting it's the (expensive) path to the internet & keeps popping a nag up, regardless of the fact that I keep telling it to f-off!
Oh, and the damn thing seems to keep disconnecting every 5 mins. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!!!!!
ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHH
Anyway, getting there :wink:
Phew. Anyone who knows how to get rid of that poxy GPRS - 3G thing (yes I know its a medium so I guess I mean that useless boil on the arse of humanity called WAP) & also how to keep the damn thing connected - I think it's an Activesync issue....
Anyway, I'm now off to the top of my local bell tower with a fully loaded high-powered rifle with telescopic sights & 10,000 rounds of ammo, disguised as a postman.
Andy
hey andy
werent you the guy that got a nice cheap phone hacked the parts, put it back together, and now over the moon.... ?? thought it was you i read about, may be not.
Hmmmm gprs..... hmmmm fun aint it.
try this cab file..... it stops the auto detect and thus removes the "G" in the screen, I found it effective.
I think you can still connect it, but have to go through the manual process of going into connections, press and hold, select connect. otherwise it wont auto connect at all, it saved me heaps, and I never really used it at all. Otherwise, you can simply go in and delete the settings yourself when you like.
Re Activsync, you may find that it auto starts, and thus tries to start the gprs. this can be rectified by going to activesync on the PDA, create a server source, as fictitious entry. find the connection periods and set all to manual. Then delete the settings entirely. This should prevent activesync from autostarting, and more importantly kick starting GPRS.
oh well, think of it on the bright side, you are getting to use all tha education you paid a fortune for....
let me know how you go with activesync and gprs...
werent you the guy that got a nice cheap phone hacked the parts, put it back together, and now over the moon.... ?? thought it was you i read about, may be not.
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Tha's me!
Hmmmm gprs..... hmmmm fun aint it.
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And WiFi
And BlueTooth
And USB
And ActiveSync
And this qVGA thing (still amazed at that - "hey guys lets put a full 640x480 expensive top of the range VGA display on these things", followed by "hey guys lets NOT use the full display capabilites, let's piss everyone off and only actually design an OS that uses a QUARTER of it's capabilites and use 320x240?!?!?!?!" - my God in Heaven!!!!!!!!! :evil: )
try this cab file..... it stops the auto detect and thus removes the "G" in the screen, I found it effective.
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Thank-you Thank-you Thank-you (again)
I think you can still connect it....
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I think I can safely say that I will NEVER EVER connect to the internet using crappy WAP. Crap & expensive & slow & useless & what's the point?
oh well, think of it on the bright side, you are getting to use all tha education you paid a fortune for....
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You cheeky little a-rab. :lol: Anyway I'm old enough to have missed tuition fees here in the UK, so my 4 years Honours Degree course was not paid for by yours truley :wink: Hell I even got a grant :wink: :wink:
Anyway I must say this, you have been more than helpful & understanding of my foul temper! You see my fault is that as an engineer (my wife is now rolling her eyes skyward), when I see things badly designed it just does my head in because it does not take much more effort to make things so much more better - it beggers belief sometimes and I have to wonder if they actually try using some of these God awful programs & drivers - like I may have already mentioned, how is your average guy in the street meant to cope????
Andy
underwurlde said:
And this qVGA thing (still amazed at that - "hey guys lets put a full 640x480 expensive top of the range VGA display on these things", followed by "hey guys lets NOT use the full display capabilites, let's piss everyone off and only actually design an OS that uses a QUARTER of it's capabilites and use 320x240?!?!?!?!" - my God in Heaven!!!!!!!!! :evil: )
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Thats not strictly true...
it is running at 640x480, always!!!!
its the font sizes and dpi the applications run at that makes it look like qvga.
try the latest pocket breeze, full vga support, looks amazing.
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my old mans an engineer (marine/mechanical).
i left home early....
he is a great guy from 15,000km away (he is in Perth, WA and I moved to Brisbane, QLD), same continent, just opposite sides of it. now we get along great
one advantage of the GPRS, quizz shows.... you can win the prize competitions by googling whilst in the show, and it doesnt look as obvious and it isnt WAP, it should be full internet access with googling ability.
if you get 3g on the correct plan its reasonably usable and also gives you TSC/RDP connections into your servers whilst on the road. note, beware the standard 3G is voice capable only at 128kbps, but it should be able to and can be requested to run at 384kbps.
either way, i dont really use it either, its simply to expensive. i just run wifi at home and works a treat.
it is running at 640x480, always!!!!
its the font sizes and dpi the applications run at that makes it look like qvga.
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I think that was what I was trying to say... :roll: Anyway what's that pocket breeze thing then????? Link / file DEFINATELY needed!!!! :lol:
my old mans an engineer (marine/mechanical).
i left home early....
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Probably because he spent most of his time shouting at his PC. (Just like what I've spent the entire weekend doing... Saying that I seem to be missing a daughter - and she's only 3 1/2... The other one is packing her suitcase - not bad for a 2 year old).
one advantage of the GPRS, quizz shows.... you can win the prize competitions by googling whilst in the show, and it doesnt look as obvious and it isnt WAP, it should be full internet access with googling ability.
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Wierd. chaps here at work are intregued... Can you expand a little (I'm a bit slow at these things) & provide some site addresses please?
Thanks guys - now the dust is finally settling, things are getting (even) more interesting on this little Xda Exec..
Andy
re quizz shows, what i meant was things like quizz nights and business nights out when there are prizes and games such as "the most poisonous snake" or the longest river or biggest river etc etc
you can google this sort of information and get the right answer inside the show. it doesnt stand out as much when you are using a phone rather than a laptop or computer, but with fast internet access you can get the answer 99% of the time, in the time frame.
just dont get caught...
underwurlde
pocket breeze is a today plugin pim system,
i hardly ever use calendar, tasks, inbox, notes, etc thats to pocket breeze,
http://www.sbsh.net/products/pocketbreeze/
take a look and install the demo, it roxx, just get rid of the mail, calendar, tasks plugins from today and use this as an all in one, it hardly impacts performance with the right settings, eg, turn off expand/collapse, turn off the entry counters etc, with these little tweaks its nice and smooth.
reduce the font sizes down aswell, you get vga res text.
personally i think breeze is the best pim management system there is, i tried pocket informant but for impact it had.
lost again!
@simon_darley,
LOL...I get you now, sneaky git! :wink: Like it, my kind of scam.
Just another question...
The rar file you sent me, erm , now I've installed it now what? Is it a program (if so where is it hiding) or is it a reg hack?
Steep learning curve going on here!
Thanks again,
Andy
Andy
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FINALLY get to connect to the internet
But, hold on, the fat bird isn't singing yet, GPRS is now sticking it's nose in insisting it's the (expensive) path to the internet & keeps popping a nag up, regardless of the fact that I keep telling it to f-off!
Then
Just another question...
The rar file you sent me, erm , now I've installed it now what? Is it a program (if so where is it hiding) or is it a reg hack?
The rar file, is actually a cab file, and can simply be downloaded to your device, and click to run, it will auto install and from that point, not be removable. It was an "O2" release not an Imate release, but works on both.
I dont know what it is, I dont know how it works, but I do know that it stopped my JJ from auto connecting to the internet whenever i clicked or touched something that needed an internet address. It basically stops the device from detecting that the option is available, and thus if the system detects a need, it cant find the connection directly.
It basically set the system to have no internet connection, unless you manually open a connection, eg via WIFI, Bluetooth AS, or manually making the GPRS connection by going start > connections > connections and locating the connection, then press and hold to make the connection. It was so long and convoluted, that it never happened and i never connected using GPRS/3G unless i was desperate (like quizz shows ...
There are other reasons why it connects in the first place and somethings that you need to look at was why was it trying in the first place.
1. Activsync automatically starting as mentioned
2. Pressing the "Web" key on the keyboard, which auto starts PIE, which if you havent changed to \windows\default.thm rather than the default www.clubimate.com or other similar, then it would auto start the GPRS as it "detected" that GPRS was available.
3. MSN Messenger not closing properly and trying to reconnect
4. Closing a WIFI connect when the device hasnt shut down an Internet connection
So, what it is supposed to do is shut the direct availability detection method the system uses. I dont really know how successful it was, but you should now see the removal of the "G" and "U" icon, which should now have a symbol similar in nature to the active connection, but with a cross through it.
In summary, i dont know... it was something that was given to me in this forum months ago as i also got "upset" by the auto connect feature. After adjusting the AS settings, and changing the Internet shortcut button, i didnt need it anymore, and still dont run it on my device as it doesnt auto connect as much anymore at all.
Now, it only auto connects when i click on a link in my email and i dont have wifi open, which was my fault not the device fault for clicking the link in the first place.
Has anyone got this working on a WM5 device yet?
The url's that you go to come back with
"service is not available for your mobile device".. but there are lots of JAR's and JAD's floating around for different phone types..
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As I'm not a Vodafone 3G customer - i'm after the SKY TV Guides and the ability t mark something as "to record" and have it automatically recorded at home.....
Charlie Grillo
id be interested in this too
Can someone explain a bit mroe about this? Is it a service that sky are introducing for their customers, or an extra pay service? Cheers.
This is for current customer (for free):
http://www.sky.com/skybymobile/home
try going to:
mobile.sky.com/sbm
this then checks your phones comatibility
Sky by Mobile - Is it possible on Windows Mobile?
By Gears. Published on 10 Jul 2006.
Some of you may be aware of a new service launched by Sky TV recently. If you're lucky enough to have one of their whizzy PVR's then you'll already be used to the live pause and recording to hard disk. However, recently they announced their Sky by Mobile service which allows you to get the latest news and videos from Sky plus you can now remotely set programmes to record onto your Sky+ box. Good eh?
Only one problem though. You need one of these handsets to run the software, and Windows Mobile isn't on there. I'd really like to use this service - I'm always forgetting to set my Sky+ box or I'm away from the house and I can't physically touch the remote. Last night I found this interesting digitalspy.co.uk thread and downloaded this JAR file and plonked it onto my Orange SPV C600. I opened it up in file explorer and ran it in the Java MIDlet Manager. It does actually work, I can load it up and enter my sky.com credentials, however it stops after that - I presume because it can't access the net. I can't seem to get around this and I've tried everything like opening a GPRS connection manually and tweaking with the security settings.
Has anyone else tried this successfully ? I'm trying the JAR file for the Nokia 6230 in this example but Sky hide the links so I've not found any other JAR files to test.
http://mobile.sky.com/SBM/series40/sky_S40_LR_SF_6230/SkyMobile_S40_LR_SF_6230.jar
It installs in the midlet manager, and runs, but does not connect or go any further.
Surur
ive tried the link in a few different browsers, pie, mnimo and the java based opera but no look, just says not compatible with your device, i guess we will have to wait untill the sky.com web based service is available and use the text service in the mean time
got excited when the letter came through the post, its been in the pipeline for about a year or so now
edit: looked at the website http://www.wecomm.com/ who i think are the company that provide the software for the service and they do have other products that work on WM phones, so maybe soon it will be on our wizards!
anyone know whether we are going to get this?
On a similar subject, does anyone have the software program that you need to view your sky channels via broadband? I've just registered for it, but they email the URL to the original email address that was given to them by the account holder, but my Dad never gave them one so I'm struggling to get the software!
Cheers.
I think everyone has given up on this but ive managed to get a collection of installers for various phones, using the user agent tags in firefox.
not managed to get any of them to work though! but thought they may be useful to other people.
edit: ignore this post i cant seem to upload the files!
but if anyone is interrested give me a shout, ive got about 13 different installer files, mainly nokia,motorola, SE an i think one might be for blackberry.
Hi all I am just wondering when the Jasjam will be out in Australia? Also would you recommend it? If not what would you recommend? Thanks heaps.
The jasjam is expected to come out in Australia sometime between when hell freezes over and when Telstra gets their act together. Telstra has an exclusive deal to sell the imate jasjam up until xmas or there abouts. Its expected to launch late sept/early october on Telstra.
Additionally Dopod in conjunction with 3 will launch the Dopod 838Pro later this month or early next month, this is a similar device to the jasjam just different rom/bundled software/casing and the dopod is expected to be alot cheaper then the imate, imate are charging more for their variant for some reason.
I would recommend any Hermes device, bar the CHT 9000 and any O2 Asia variants. I found the TyTN very useful, fast, efficient, light weight, and whilst I liked the 'spacier' button layout of the TyTN the M3100 (also same layout as Jasjam and dopod 838Pro) was still all of the above just a little less room for error with the buttons and when your in a hurry.
Thanks heaps for all the info it has really helped!!!!!
One question how would the warranty work if I got one from U.K or USA on E-bay?
Osir1s I take it that you have got a tytn? Ifso where did you get it? If you don't mind my asking how much did you pay for it? Thanks heaps.
Osir1s would it be OK if I added you to my MSN Messenger contacts?
Regardless of whether you purchase a jasjam, tytn, dopod, etc etc since none are currently sold in Australia all of them will carry an international warranty. HTC Warranty is very good as its international and transferrable, i-mate for example can be real pricks with their warranties from time to time, dopod im not sure about etc.
You may also be interested to know if you really want a jasjam expansys newzealand, not AU but the new zealand website can sell the jasjams to Australians however you will pay $1410 for it.
I purchased my TyTN through ebay, but look around there are plenty of stores selling TyTNs, its the dopods, jasjams, trions that are harder to come by. I have no experience with these people but alot of ppl on these boards in another thread recommend www.smart-mobile-gadgets.com or MadMonkeyBoys website whatever that is.
For a TyTN you shouldnt pay more then $1100AU put it that way. obviously as aforementioned jasjams etc will set you back more, but for the TyTN no more then $1100AU, maybe $1120 at absolutely max depending on the exchange rate at the time.
I hope this has been of some help.
Any news on the release date?
it will be released around christmas time. This device is currently tested and configured for telstra 3G wap portal.
That long?
DOPOD is officilally launched as business in Australia in Sydney last week.
both DOPOD 838 pro and DOPD 595 are coming to Australia and will be disrtibuted by 3 Networks and OPTUS. Also, thanks to Brightpoint, these models will be also available in retail chains.
yeah, they tried to implement it into their DB device but fails due to the firmware problem. [ Can not Stream the live video and video on demand ]. However, their appointed partner ( which I can not tell you - I am working for that company ) is working on it and this device is going to deploy sometime next week.
Australian avail..
Good to hear. I also heard a date next week for something related, and think there would be a very big hole if Jasjam isn't part of it.
but, does this mean it will launch feature-incomplete with a promise that "the rest will come real soon now"?
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yeah, they tried to implement it into their DB device but fails due to the firmware problem. [ Can not Stream the live video and video on demand ]. However, their appointed partner ( which I can not tell you - I am working for that company ) is working on it and this device is going to deploy sometime next week.
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So you have been working on a software solution to stream real media??? or am I reading to much into this?
Because I have a JasJar, and still to date, have been unable to watch any video streams at all.
Would be really intersted to hear what you were working on.....
In the past, Telstra 3G live stream only supports 3GP and RM (Real Media ) since there is no PDA device in their so-called marketing list. However, they decide to bring PDA into the market and support wm9 format.
Problem is, Windows Media Player connects into the media server but fails to extract and pick up the correct video format ( for the optimal & performance purposes ). We found firmware isn't compatible with media stream server. Solution is to let Telstra deal with their supplier instead of putting this job to us.
Not only this device, they also bring new palm PDA devices ( which run WM5 AKU 2.x ) as well as new blackberry.
Sometimes during Christmas, you guys will see bounch of new devices release to market. I think it will be sold around 1100 AUD.
To gunigugu
You won't be able to stream at all because Jasjar is not in their 3G DB device list. Only those devices that are in that list will be able to load 3G WAP Portal and stream. There are 2 conditions to stream video content :
1. Your device is in DB device list
2. You are active subscriber ( either Telstra or 3 )
Same to anyone who has problem with 3 Provider. They restricted number of devices that can connect and view any video content from their WAP site.
If you want to view the 3 or Telstra WAP portal, you have to modify the User Profile, UA differences to any devices which are currently supported by 3 or Telstra. I can list some of them ( Sony Ericsson K600i, K610, Motorola V3x, Nokia N70, N80, Samsung Z150, Z400, Z510 and some other devices I can not remember their model No ) .
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To gunigugu
You won't be able to stream at all because Jasjar is not in their 3G DB device list. Only those devices that are in that list will be able to load 3G WAP Portal and stream. There are 2 conditions to stream video content :
1. Your device is in DB device list
2. You are active subscriber ( either Telstra or 3 )
Same to anyone who has problem with 3 Provider. They restricted number of devices that can connect and view any video content from their WAP site.
If you want to view the 3 or Telstra WAP portal, you have to modify the User Profile, UA differences to any devices which are currently supported by 3 or Telstra. I can list some of them ( Sony Ericsson K600i, K610, Motorola V3x, Nokia N70, N80, Samsung Z150, Z400, Z510 and some other devices I can not remember their model No ) .
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Thanks for the tip, we (the guys on the universal forum) have worked this out already...
But we've ran into 2 hurdles:
1: Streaming video. It seems purely software, in that we can't find any software capable of playing real media streams compatiable with windows mobile 2005.
We are all able to access the web portal, and get anything we like, just when it comes to streaming, the software isn't working properly.
Any advice?
2: MMS For some reason, regardless of the settings used, we just can not get it to send/recieve. We are able to see the headers, but thats it.
Thanks for any help or information you can provide. We are all very greatful.
To gunigugu
Your problem :
1. Streaming video. It seems purely software, in that we can't find any software capable of playing real media streams compatiable with windows mobile 2005.
It is because the User Profile that you used for HTC Universal or any PDA devices belongs to other device that has different method of handling video stream & method calls. Modified trick is only applied when you want to browse Provider's WAP site. Real Media for PPC has different way of handling method calls ( get content function, trigger media manager of device function, create secure & authenticate user & device & connection function) than Real Media for S60, Symbian.
Soon they put TyTn into their DB list, ( I think 3 will do the same with their PDA devices which are running WM5 ). you can use those's User profile to enjoy streaming content. But for now, I don't think you can.
2. MMS For some reason, regardless of the settings used, we just can not get it to send/recieve. We are able to see the headers, but thats it
I don't know much about MMS because it is handled by other groups.
From my understanding, there are 2 checks on MMS server
1. Check device to see whether it is capable of MMS or not
2. Same network's subscribers.
I have not seen any reason why we can not send MMS, no idea but I can find out more infos about this.
My group is responsible for Content delivery platform and Multimedia services.
Hope it helps
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To gunigugu
Your problem :
1. Streaming video. It seems purely software, in that we can't find any software capable of playing real media streams compatiable with windows mobile 2005.
It is because the User Profile that you used for HTC Universal or any PDA devices belongs to other device that has different method of handling video stream & method calls. Modified trick is only applied when you want to browse Provider's WAP site. Real Media for PPC has different way of handling method calls ( get content function, trigger media manager of device function, create secure & authenticate user & device & connection function) than Real Media for S60, Symbian.
Soon they put TyTn into their DB list, ( I think 3 will do the same with their PDA devices which are running WM5 ). you can use those's User profile to enjoy streaming content. But for now, I don't think you can.
2. MMS For some reason, regardless of the settings used, we just can not get it to send/recieve. We are able to see the headers, but thats it
I don't know much about MMS because it is handled by other groups.
From my understanding, there are 2 checks on MMS server
1. Check device to see whether it is capable of MMS or not
2. Same network's subscribers.
I have not seen any reason why we can not send MMS, no idea but I can find out more infos about this.
My group is responsible for Content delivery platform and Multimedia services.
Hope it helps
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Man, your amazing!
Where the hell have you been, most of us, on the universal thread, have been pulling our hair out, trying to organise this!!!
So would I be right in assuming, that the TyTn will be the first WM2005 built into the database.
Does WM2005 go into more specifics such as model number, i.e. JasJar and TyTn. OR am I to assume, that after they are done putting TyTn into the db list, that my universal, will work perfectly with the portal.
BTW, can I ask, what software have you used, to play the real media streams? As this is an area we've had alot of trouble with in relation to wm2005.
In the past, Telstra had planned to bring Jasjar into AUST market but they were never done it. ( I don't know why - my assumption is because this device is too big and most of mobile user in Australia is only care about size and fashion phone than the phone that has lots of functionalities ).
It was a mistake and in order to correct their mistake and trying to gain PDA market share ( they lost PDA market to 3 for Motorola A1000, Motorola A925, Nokia E61 - All are running Symbian OS with Real Player installed), tyTn and other WM5 devices are tested and ready to be released.
Don't know about the price yet but they bought tytn through I-mate with HTC supported .
Like I said before, Telstra has no intention of bringing Jasjar into this market ( maybe they will change in the future but who knows, they used to bring Nokia 9500 device into Market ) . Because Jasjar and tytn share the same operating system as well as stream media player ( they will be built with AKU 2.x ) therefore, the User Profile's modification will work with Streaming media thing. Still you have to modify your header. ( put Tytn's User profile into Jasjar, it will do the trick )
Telstra will put WM9 into their media server. Nothing secrets, it is a plain Windows Media Player 10. RM can be played through customised RealMedia Player for ppc. That's what we have got in here
Yup, I know it's cheeky request...
I run a website called the The Beebotron which lets you Listen Again to any BBC broadcast.
I've had some feedback in this link: here from someone who is having difficulty using my site with a Universal.
Could some kind soul with an HTC Universal please try my site and see if it works on your PDA?
I'd appreciate this, and would be immensely grateful for feedback on this thread - it's just as important to me to know that it doesn't work as to know that it does!
Thanks in advance,
Kronalias
It doesn't work for me. I get two messages. The first one is about security and says -
'Running a system command on this item may be unsafe.Do you wish to continue?'
On accepting the risk, I get another message:
' the file rtsp: (path etc) can not be opened. Either it is not signed with a trusted certificate, or one of its components can not be found.
If I try to approach the page through the google mobile proxy, all the links are simply text and not live links to the urls of the files.
Hi evilv
Firstly, thank you very much for taking the time to have a go, and the reply.
The message: 'Running a system command on this item may be unsafe. Do you wish to continue?' is due to Mr. Gates and M$ software which, in this instance, is errmm wrong. It is caused by PIE (Pocket Internet Explorer, IE Mobile, or whatever the current vogue name is) wanting to pass a URL to kick off the appropriate program - which depends on the last few bits of the URL. E.g. if the URL ended in .wma then the Windows Media Player would start. In the case you’ve very decently had a go at, then the URL would have ended in either .rm or .ra – both of which kick off the Real Player.
Secondly, I should have warned people about this message, and I apologise abjectly for not having done so.
On to the next bit… Although you get that message on your Universal, you don’t get it on a PC (I don’t know why, life is sometimes like that…).
Forget the google mobile proxy – that just isn’t going to work.
Could I please presume upon you one more time? Would you please try the same thing on your PC? The reason I ask is that if you try it on your PC and it fails then there may be something getting in the way and stopping you receiving this link in your country (I don’t know where you are). This, theoretically, could be the BBC or your ISP… The end result is that if my site doesn’t work on your PC then it’s definitely not going to work on your Universal. However, if it *does* work PC-wise, then I may have a problem with Universals…
Finally, for any Universal-owner lurkers out there who may not be registered on this board, if you would like to help me and report back whether you find my links work or not then would you please email me at kronalias [@AT] gmail [.DOT] com (I’m trying to avoid spam, so I’m sure you know what to do to get the right email address). If you want to keep it short then just a message ‘ok’ or ‘no go’ would *really* be appreciated.
Thanks again evilv
Cheers, Kronalias
PS Apols, I should said that you should be connecting wifi (unless you have another way which works, in which case please tell me!) and I should have included the Beebotron Lite site for PDAs (also works on PCs), which is here.
It works on my PC. I think you have a problem. The error message I mentioned above may be of some help.
Thanks for that evilv - I suspect that you're right and my site just isn't going to work with Universals. Oh well...
Works perfectly on my Universal using Opera
Works on mine O2 Exec with Opera.
Thank you very much to PC_Arcade and Yen for the feedback – I’ll update the compatibility list on the website mentioning Opera browser works for these PDAs.
A quick reply to evilv, who tried hard and whose feedback I really appreciated. Do you fancy having a go with Opera? Their website is here
Cheers, Kronalias
so i have been thinking about my homes security and i have some questions...
i have collected quite a few expensive gadgets and they need protection!
So, i have been tinkering with my **** logitech orb web cam and it now supports motion detection. now call me crazy but i would like to be able to receive on my diamond, the video that has been recorded by a motion detection enabled web cam set up in my home. i'm trying to get my logitech web cam to save on my HP media smart server, running windows home server, not default on my laptop, and be notified by either sms that there is new video on my server or the video itself sent to my diamond. i would also like to be able to connect remotely to my laptop and be able to activate the camera software from a desktop link or something like that.
now i swear this is diamond related in the fact that i would like to use the device as a controller.
i have not used remote desktop on my diamond yet, i could not get it working.
i'm not sure if this is a app request, idea, or util so ill follow the forum template rules once this thread takes shape.
please shed some light on how one could make this happen. i think it could be useful to all of us, at home or place of business or your just want to bust your stupid parents snooping around your room.
so you are looking for an app that does the following:
act as webcam streaming server, but only when motion is detected, and when it does detect motion, it must notify you via sms, plus: you need a simple app for youre diamond to vie the stream..
i dont think I would be able to do this, but if you can clarify exacly what you want thinking WITH you is more easy...
on the other hand, i am sure the pc part has already some usefull apliactions wich are able to act as a server. but im not sure about the notification sms..
it would be ideal if that sms contained a link that you follow to open youre browser to view the stream...
what i know what is possible, there are apps for the pc that record video and send it via e-mail...
just use google for webcam security..
maybe there are pplz around here that can adapt software for u...
but i u seach im sure there are apps out there wich can do that... the only app you need is a browser capable of viewing video streams..
Would be good an app who detect movement, and then make several actions:
- Upload a photo/video on an FTP
- Save photo/video
- Play an AUDIO alarm
- Send an mms with the photo/video
- Send a warning sms
- Make a call (and let you listen what's happening)
....all when Movement is detected via the pda camera
Improvise
What you are trying to accomplish is mostly already possible. You'll need to do some research and some creative thinking to get it to work though. You will most likely not get an all-in-one solution to this issue.
It sounds to me like the motion detection and subsequent video capture is already taking place via the software you have installed for your web cam.
Basically you need two things: A way to be notified of a new video file and a way to view it.
I'm not aware of any existing application which will send an email (which can arrive as an SMS) based on a new file being created in a directory, but as a programmer I can asure you there's not much to it.
There are however many solutions which would allow you to view a video file on your WM device from you computer at home and remote desktop is not the way to go here. Your best bet is probably good old http since most video applications will handle "streaming" to file to you as you watch. You'll need to familiarize yourself with IIS (Internet Information Server; I'm assuming you're using Windows) and create a "virtual directory" pointing at the folder where the video files arrive. You'll also need to take the necessary steps to open port 80 so that your computer at home can host via http (this means configuring your router and your computer's firewall). Once this is done just pick your favorite video player and choose "open URL" or something similar and type in http://YourExternalIP/YourVirtualDirectory/YourVideoFile.
I'll leave it up to you to figure out how to best make yourself aware of new files.
As LucidObscurity says there already are several solutions available to this through the combination of existing discrete applications, although .
My setup does does what you desire although goes quite a bit further so it may be overkill for your requirements. However, as food for thought it may still be of interest. It consists of:
- A series of Panasonic BL-C1 IP cameras distributed around my house (running on the wired house network, although wireless versions are available) - these are quite discrete cameras and don't have the typical 'camera look' hence are aesthetically compatible with partners, guests etc (most people I've pointed them out to hadn't noticed them and then didn't believe they were cameras)
- The motion detection/analysis software ZoneMinder - the 'brains' - this monitors the cameras, detects motion (in zoned areas) and records the events as required (it buffers the images so you can capture what happened before the trigger too)
- The SMS tool MercurySMS (and VGSMail gateway) used to alert me via text when motion has been detected (the texts contain various event-related details/stats and a link to the recording)
- A handful of other scripts used for small housekeeping tasks e.g. scheduling the starting/stopping of the system, realtime offsite backup of recorded material (there's no point me capturing a thief on video if he then goes an nicks my PC!), etc
- My Diamond, or any other device with a web browser, used to interface with the system - controlling/configuring it, accessing live/recorded video etc. A web front end is essential in my opinion - you don't want to tie access down to a single platform/device.
Whilst it's not a setup that is up-and-running out of the box now that's it's fully configured it works well - very well. False alarms are practically nill and it doesn't miss a thing. Remote access via the web is powerful and as simple/complicated as you want - on holiday my girlfriend regularly fires up the quick 'snapshot' montage to keep an eye on our cats (we do have a dedicated 'catcam' monitoring the catflap so we can see the history of who came in/out and when).
I'm sure there are some all-in-one solutions available but they likely come at a cost and perhaps do not have the power and flexibility of a modularised solution - it'd be worth seeing what's available though.
Mathew
thanks for all your replies. great read.
i just want all my systems, Windows Home Server, Vista Home Pro and WM6.1 to come together. i will take a look into the apps you have linked to and see whats what.
i already have the ability to record with motion detection. when a new file is created in a folder on my home server, i want to be notified and linked to or streamed. i have remote access to my file via browser [ blazeitup123.homeserver.com ]. i can't get the logitech software to actually save to the server because it says i dont have the rights. i'll try and fix that tonight after dinner, but saving to the server is very improtant because my laptop could be stolen and then the whole setup was pointless. i want to incorperate my diamond into this process as much as possible, like with the remote activation and so on.
Wooow this is one of the coolest threads I read in a long time.
Although I'm not as advanced as some of the members regarding computing, I was thinking:
-Cam software streaming to remote address.
-When motion is detected, cam starts recording, thus creating movement in the remote address.
-When new connection(movement) is detected, you activate a new RSS feed.
-You get RSS notification on phone.
-Connect to remote address and check the stream.
What about:
A spy cam on the Diamond, I mean that you could hide your phone somewhere and point it at a certain spot you want to view. Then remotely access the phone and view the live stream?
Since the phone is so small its an easy hide.
Greetings to all and luck in all your great projects!
you should actually look here...
http://www.incax.com/
Looks good. I've also found Wapcam
(Seems to alert via e-mail to you could use either push e-mail or an email-to-SMS gateway for instant alerts)
Mathew
shogunmark said:
you should actually look here...
http://www.incax.com/
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looks like great software. ill try the trail and it only 20 dollars to buy . seems very simple to. i want something more server based because my laptop would be the first thing out the door.
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Blazeitup123 said:
looks like great software. ill try the trail and it only 20 dollars to buy . seems very simple to. i want something more server based because my laptop would be the first thing out the door.
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Perhaps you should invest in a big dog.
I m using this one:
http://www.accordiva.com/
U have there SecuRanger 2 Support 4 video channels
or one Camera only: SecuExpress 2
SecuExpress 2
both come with WM application for remote / viewing etc..
Take a look at orb.com. It has the ability to sms or email you if it detects movement. You could then connect to your home webcam through the phone's' browser.
...a good spy, like a 007 , should be able to SPY also without his PC
The only one that i've found is Invisible Shooter... for symbian os there are a lot of those apps (no pc needed), but for the pda there aren't many... (see the post #3)