Well, I was unsure if I should post this under one of the old posts, but I decided to start it as a new clean post...
Many are having problem with "hissing" noise, joint-stereo and low bitrate(or bitpool). For my sake, I've tried "fit4cat - Hermes Tweaker", "Sleuth255 A2DP fix" and several other methods, but without beeing able to get the soundquality I want from my headset.
Now, this is what worked for me after tweaking around with the registry a while, and endless pairing sessions
Download a registry editor(I use PHM, http://www.phm.lu/Products/PocketPC/RegEdit/ <- Download the PocketPC 2002/2003 ARM/PXA)
1: Turn off bluethooth on the Trinity
2: Unpair the Trinity with the headset(Delete the headset from the list!)
3: Change the following registry settings:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\A2 DP\Settings
MaxSupportedBitPool=80
MinSupportedBitPool=40 (or more if you want)
(if these arn't there, add them!)
And DELETE:
UseJointStereo = 0/1 (depending on whatever you have put there before)
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\WaveDev]
Priority256=149
(let the rest be as it is)
4: Reboot
5: Now, DO NOT use the headset for direct pairing!(since you've already added your phone to the headset, pressing a button on it will useually pair it back with the Trinity) <- This seems to be the function that triggers the sound-problem...
Instead, set the headset in visible mode, and use the trinity to pair(search for new devices), when you find the headset and pair it, you will hear the pairing-sound from the trinity-speaker, and NOT the headset.
Now you can enjoy high quality stereo sound without any disturbance
But, the problem comes when you turn off your Trinity, or the headset. If you try to connect the headset and the phone by using the connectbutton/playbutton on the headset, it will pair, but this time you will hear the pairing sound in the headset, and then you have all your problems back... So then you have to turn of bluethooth, delete the headset from the trinity, and add it back once again by turing the headset in visible mode again.
So the solution to this, is to go to the device list on the trinity after you have lost connection with the headset(this is if you have turned of the trinity or the headset), and hold the stylus on it and choose "Use as wirelss stereo" and "use as handsfree"...
Thanks to all of you guys here who have posted solutions to the A2DP problems And if anyone have suggestions to other values that are better fit then the onces I've supplied, share them with us
And if all of this have been posted in another thread that I've missed out, the moderators are free to delete this one
Good grief, I can only imagine how many times you had to pair the headset before you noticed what was going on LOL, hope you didn't turn blue in the face
I imagine a ROM update could fix this problem.
Tiemen said:
Good grief, I can only imagine how many times you had to pair the headset before you noticed what was going on LOL, hope you didn't turn blue in the face
I imagine a ROM update could fix this problem.
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Hehe! The thing that made me going was that I was able to get perfect sound once or twice, and since I made it work those few times I just had to find out what I actually did that made this work (And paying 175$ for the headset also keept me fueled for a while ) hehe!
I think I've used about 5-6 hours total these two days sitting pairing, adjusting settings, rebooting(ARGH!), untill I found out that the problem actually occurs when you use the headset to pair instead of the trinity
I don't understand what is it with bluetooth stereo:
quality is not good enough to listen to music 64 kbps... no bass, no medium, nothing just a hiss.
and plus you get 80% cpu (with a 400Mhz...), just to encode this crappy 64 kbps.
Yes exactly for all people having so many skipping problems check your cpu with taskmgr.
So you cannot play video with A2DP unless you have 1Ghz!!! good for battery life.
If you like music you want good earbuds. There's none with A2DP.
So what's the point again apart from having to charge one more device?
meroupow said:
I don't understand what is it with bluetooth stereo:
quality is not good enough to listen to music 64 kbps... no bass, no medium, nothing just a hiss.
and plus you get 80% cpu (with a 400Mhz...), just to encode this crappy 64 kbps.
Yes exactly for all people having so many skipping problems check your cpu with taskmgr.
So you cannot play video with A2DP unless you have 1Ghz!!! good for battery life.
If you like music you want good earbuds. There's none with A2DP.
So what's the point again apart from having to charge one more device?
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1: Well, I'm not sure on the bluetooth 2.0 specs, so If there is a spec limit on 64kbps, then this is new to me.
2: And the skippingproblem is not just connected to the CPU-usage.. But if you have some info on this issue, then please; do share it with us.
3: A2DP headset with minijack is available many places, even HTC has one. And if you take a look at DS970, you will see that it's the same as Sony MDR-series.
4: And well, the CPU usage is a issue, but that is the only part that I agree with you on..(but let us be frank, I've bought a pair of A2DP headset, so I do smell a bit "conflict of interests" here...)
And to the bottom line, I've bought the Trinity because it's one hell of a gadget, and so is bluetooth stereo So if anyone want to shoot me for that, well hell yeah, go ahead
Edit: And FYI meroupow: I do feel you are a bit rude in the way you wrote that response, or at least a bit arrogant when you post a comment like that. Trying to mock people who have bought A2DP headsets and are tweaking and fixing issues to make them work correct(this also goes for GPS on the phone, black coating comming off, improving camera quality, getting the ATI ImageOn to work correctly... etc) . And I must honestly say that yes, you do have some points there, but you should be able to present your views in a much more polite way...
Sound better but discontinuou. Impossible ear music. The sound goes on and off continuously. Why?. How can I do?
I am sorry if you felt I was being rude.
That was not my point and It was probably the wrong place to say what I said.
It is just that just like you I bought this A2DP stuff with my Wizard.
Just like you I tweaked it as much as I could and managed to get it work.
The problem is when it comes to sound quality is important and just working is not enough.
When you show your happiness because it's finally working, people think you are happy because it's good and they are buying it. And get disappointed too.
I just wanted to warn people on the fact that it's not working to watch movies because of cpu and that a 5$ earbud will have far superior sound quality.
It's just a toy and by no way a mature technology.
I've got a CB2530, hard to pair and I still don't know what do I do for the pairing to be successful, but I do manage to pair it after a few attempts, on the registry I just disable jointstereo, set the MaxSupportedBitPool to 320 and the quality is quite nice and with minimal skipping. High cpu usage of course, but if I set the MaxSupportedBitPool to 80 the quality is quite crappy and the device gets equally sluggish(gets worse when you touch on the screen, as K-Rally does even with the new ROM).
As for the pairing, I still haven't confirmed, but I think the registry setting that enables the bluesnarf option on BTCrawler has something to do with it(the bluetooth ISC mode thing), because right after setting it I managed to pair the headset right away, the thing is, I was also successful in other occasions when I hadn't set that reg. option.
Hearing the pairing sound from the trinity or headset doesn't indicate anything on my case, and I think I've already tried these reg settings you mention, but I'll try them again as soon as I get home to see if there's any difference and post the results.
meroupow said:
It is just that just like you I bought this A2DP stuff with my Wizard.
Just like you I tweaked it as much as I could and managed to get it work.
The problem is when it comes to sound quality is important and just working is not enough.
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Install the Widcomm BT stack. With that, you won't have complaints - neither have I.
meroupow said:
I don't understand what is it with bluetooth stereo:
quality is not good enough to listen to music 64 kbps... no bass, no medium, nothing just a hiss.
and plus you get 80% cpu (with a 400Mhz...), just to encode this crappy 64 kbps.
Yes exactly for all people having so many skipping problems check your cpu with taskmgr.
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Switch to the Widcomm BT stack.
neofix said:
5: Now, DO NOT use the headset for direct pairing!(since you've already added your phone to the headset, pressing a button on it will useually pair it back with the Trinity) <- This seems to be the function that triggers the sound-problem...
Instead, set the headset in visible mode, and use the trinity to pair(search for new devices), when you find the headset and pair it, you will hear the pairing-sound from the trinity-speaker, and NOT the headset.
Now you can enjoy high quality stereo sound without any disturbance
But, the problem comes when you turn off your Trinity, or the headset. If you try to connect the headset and the phone by using the connectbutton/playbutton on the headset, it will pair, but this time you will hear the pairing sound in the headset, and then you have all your problems back... So then you have to turn of bluethooth, delete the headset from the trinity, and add it back once again by turing the headset in visible mode again.
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Does anyone know what is changed when you DO pair with the button on the headphones? With some models, you MUST do it because, otherwise, the music will be muted after about a second (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=282008 for more info).
I've searched around in the Registry for changes, without any success. It's possible we could directly edit the headphone connection-dependent parameters set AFTER the headphone's initiating the connection to avoid sound problems. If we knew where they're stored, that is.
Menneisyys said:
Switch to the Widcomm BT stack.
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On trinity?
meroupow said:
I am sorry if you felt I was being rude.
That was not my point and It was probably the wrong place to say what I said.
It is just that just like you I bought this A2DP stuff with my Wizard.
Just like you I tweaked it as much as I could and managed to get it work.
The problem is when it comes to sound quality is important and just working is not enough.
When you show your happiness because it's finally working, people think you are happy because it's good and they are buying it. And get disappointed too.
I just wanted to warn people on the fact that it's not working to watch movies because of cpu and that a 5$ earbud will have far superior sound quality.
It's just a toy and by no way a mature technology.
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BTW: is it the profile and software on the phones/PDAs that arn't handling it, or is it the standard itself that sucks? (or in other words, should I keep my headset for later usage or return it to the store)
I use Plantronics 590a and the skipping problem appears very rarely, mainly when I use volume/track buttons on headset. However, yesterday I also connected the headset to a normal stereo (via the 3.5mm adapter) and noticed the same occasional skipping. So in my opinion the skipping issue problem might be from headset, not Trinity.
I also tried a Nokia stereo bluetooth headset and noticed serious skipping problems - unusable.
PS: there is indeed a skipping problem if I open/close other applications while listening to music. It looks like the processor is very busy - system very slow etc.
PPS: any suggestions for a player that has equalizer? WMP doesn't and the sound is not that great (especially when compared to my old SE P900 which had an excellent player - best I've heard so far... )
Originally Posted by Menneisyys
Switch to the Widcomm BT stack.
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If you tell me how I'll be glad to try...
I've never managed to do it sucessfully with my Prophet (witch had the same A2DP sound quality problem as it come with taht Fu***g, crappy, buggy, foot-coded MS BT stack)
Stereo BT experience is very positive
Hi all,
As always, someone has to have a different view of the issue. I got my trinity a couple of weeks ago and went and bought a Plantronics Pulsar 280 stereo headset. Mostly because of the stereo jack. I have not updated trinity nor have I applied any fixes, just paired right out of the box, as always from trinity BT manager. It really sounds great, particularlly the base is fantastic because of the earbud design. Even you may choose the actual headset of your dreams by using the standard 2.5mm jack. I have owned a "no brand" headset (still do) but it is not BT 2.0 and I think it makes a difference. The plantronics does not skip and it sounds great. Most of my MP3 is 128k and above so no limits with that. I have not checked my registry settings as they are default rom image set. I am using ROM 1.15.412.2 and Radio 1.20.00.11 (my trinity only speaks spanish for now, hope to change that soon).
Point being that the software and quality of the headphones makes all the difference, don't be so quick to blame trinity, just a piece of my mind. Keep it up guys!!!
baramuse said:
If you tell me how I'll be glad to try...
I've never managed to do it sucessfully with my Prophet (witch had the same A2DP sound quality problem as it come with taht Fu***g, crappy, buggy, foot-coded MS BT stack)
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Yes, how do you change the BT stack on the Trinity?
Thanks.
danosimo said:
Hi all,
I have not updated trinity nor have I applied any fixes, just paired right out of the box, as always from trinity BT manager. It really sounds great, particularlly the base is fantastic because of the earbud design.
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If you haven't changed anything it might sound great but it definitely sounds MONO!
aZooZa said:
Yes, how do you change the BT stack on the Trinity?
Thanks.
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Up to now, I haven't managed to do it; see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=291605 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286094 . Sorry for telling you it might be possible - I assumed it would, as it is on most other HTC models.
anonimo said:
If you haven't changed anything it might sound great but it definitely sounds MONO!
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set UseJointStereo to 0
Related
Hi
I´m thinking of buying the Sony Ericsson HBH-DS970 bluethooth headset for my qtek9100 (Wizard) and I was wondering if anyone has any experience with this headset.
The things I want from it is:
1. play music of course, I use Mortplayer or PocketMusic for my music now but i can change if none of those work.
2. Change tracks and see the song playing in the dispaly
3. Recive calls and see who is calling in the display.
4. Watch video and get auido in headset, use TCMP here but again I can change if neccesary.
I know that the headset supports both A2DP and AVRCP but I would like to know if anyone tested this with the wizard. The headset is pretty pricey (about 900 SEK or 94 euro here in Sweden) so I want to make sure its all it says it is and that it works.
My other option is the RClip35 from itech which seems pretty sweet aswell, anyone tried that one?
Thanks
/d
dodgy said:
Hi
I´m thinking of buying the Sony Ericsson HBH-DS970 bluethooth headset for my qtek9100 (Wizard) and I was wondering if anyone has any experience with this headset.
The things I want from it is:
1. play music of course, I use Mortplayer or PocketMusic for my music now but i can change if none of those work.
2. Change tracks and see the song playing in the dispaly
3. Recive calls and see who is calling in the display.
4. Watch video and get auido in headset, use TCMP here but again I can change if neccesary.
I know that the headset supports both A2DP and AVRCP but I would like to know if anyone tested this with the wizard. The headset is pretty pricey (about 900 SEK or 94 euro here in Sweden) so I want to make sure its all it says it is and that it works.
My other option is the RClip35 from itech which seems pretty sweet aswell, anyone tried that one?
Thanks
/d
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I've got one, using it with my Qtek 9100 with the "Mr Clean" ROM and it works great. Sound quality is excellent, the ear buds appear to be the same as Sony's high end ones (which I'm using with my iPod) and the head set build quality is high.
I can definitely recommend it for the 9100.
/politby
politby said:
dodgy said:
Hi
I´m thinking of buying the Sony Ericsson HBH-DS970 bluethooth headset for my qtek9100 (Wizard) and I was wondering if anyone has any experience with this headset.
The things I want from it is:
1. play music of course, I use Mortplayer or PocketMusic for my music now but i can change if none of those work.
2. Change tracks and see the song playing in the dispaly
3. Recive calls and see who is calling in the display.
4. Watch video and get auido in headset, use TCMP here but again I can change if neccesary.
I know that the headset supports both A2DP and AVRCP but I would like to know if anyone tested this with the wizard. The headset is pretty pricey (about 900 SEK or 94 euro here in Sweden) so I want to make sure its all it says it is and that it works.
My other option is the RClip35 from itech which seems pretty sweet aswell, anyone tried that one?
Thanks
/d
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I've got one, using it with my Qtek 9100 with the "Mr Clean" ROM and it works great. Sound quality is excellent, the ear buds appear to be the same as Sony's high end ones (which I'm using with my iPod) and the head set build quality is high.
I can definitely recommend it for the 9100.
/politby
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Ugh, forgot to say that it does not have caller ID. The remote control function works with WMP but not with TCPMP. Those are the only media players I've tested.
/politby
Ugh, forgot to say that it does not have caller ID
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Is that so? I just checked at a reseller and saw this (translated from swedish)
Bluetooth Stereo Headset with display that has support for Caller ID and also see what song is played.
Bluetooth version 2.O with A2DP protokoll (Stream sound in Stereo) and Digital Signal Protokoll) which means improved sound quality.
So I´m pussled..true or false?
Also, looking at pictures of this one, from what I can see it has many wires, only difference to the one that comes in the package with the Qtek9100 is the wire to the phone of corse, don´t you find this a bit annoying?
Thinking of buying one myself and I have today a HBH-610 that can´t do A2DP sadly BUT it´s just one thingy on the ear and that´s it...oh well guess I have to scarifice that if I wan´t A2DP which I do...
/fahlis
fahlis said:
Ugh, forgot to say that it does not have caller ID
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Is that so? I just checked at a reseller and saw this (translated from swedish)
Bluetooth Stereo Headset with display that has support for Caller ID and also see what song is played.
Bluetooth version 2.O with A2DP protokoll (Stream sound in Stereo) and Digital Signal Protokoll) which means improved sound quality.
So I´m pussled..true or false?
Also, looking at pictures of this one, from what I can see it has many wires, only difference to the one that comes in the package with the Qtek9100 is the wire to the phone of corse, don´t you find this a bit annoying?
Thinking of buying one myself and I have today a HBH-610 that can´t do A2DP sadly BUT it´s just one thingy on the ear and that´s it...oh well guess I have to scarifice that if I wan´t A2DP which I do...
/fahlis
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Argh. It DOES do Caller ID. The display is so tiny that I guess I assumed it would not display the caller ID.
Makes this headset even better!
/politby
Thanks for the replys guys, I think now I will go ahead and buy one when I get enough cash.
One additional question: Does it have a ring speaker och vibrate function?
I'm thinking of a scenario when you have the phone in a pocket or bag and have the clip on your shirt but the earbuds not in your ears and the phone rings, is it possible to hear it or do you have to have the buds pluged in?
Here's a link to the headset and the lowest prices (for Sweden)
http://www.prisjakt.nu/produkt.php?p=87795#rparams=ss=HBH-DS970
/d
dodgy said:
Thanks for the replys guys, I think now I will go ahead and buy one when I get enough cash.
One additional question: Does it have a ring speaker och vibrate function?
I'm thinking of a scenario when you have the phone in a pocket or bag and have the clip on your shirt but the earbuds not in your ears and the phone rings, is it possible to hear it or do you have to have the buds pluged in?
Here's a link to the headset and the lowest prices (for Sweden)
http://www.prisjakt.nu/produkt.php?p=87795#rparams=ss=HBH-DS970
/d
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It does not vibrate but it plays the ring tone - and it's audible when just hanging around the neck unless the environment is really noisy.
The phone rings too, of course.
I´ll buy this one also soon, thx for the recommendations/explanations.
/fahlis
I bought one of these last week and agree that the sound quality is excellent. I expected some background Bluetooth-style hiss but I can't hear any.
£70 may be a bit steep, but I think they are worth it.
For me, I always dock my Wizard in a cradle at work, which blocks the phono jack. So these fix that problem. Now I can also carry my Wizard wherever on my person I choose and not have to worry about wires.
And the real benefit is, when docked, I use Raspberry Software's True Connect, so I can control my Wizard with my mouse (excellent software), so even without A2DRP (something like that) I can still change my music at my desk.
The actual bluetooth part is really light and you don't knotice it round your next, most people probably think it's just an MP3 player, albeit a small one.
Highly recommended by me.
Hi Guys,
got this tiny little toy too, sound is good, but some questions are still unanswered:
Songs aren´t display in the sceen of the Sony remote control, any chance to get this thing to work?
I would love it to use an other Player than this f*cking MediaPlayer, but with other Player the Buttons won´t work.....
Any idea?
What about the range?
Hi all,
What are your experiences with respect to the range of this headset, when used in combination with the Wizard? I'm fairly disappointed in that area: As soon as I move the wizard from the 'line of sight' of the headset, the audio feed breaks up. This means that I won't be able to stash my phone in my backpack for example.
regards,
dafit
@Dafit:
I only keep it in my jeans front pocket, or my Suit Jacket inner pocket, so no problems there. However I have noticed it doesn't seem to cope well if it's not in line of sight. I held my Qizard behind my back and it cut out.
So that's one downside. Quite big if you want to keep it in your bag...
@Whumpscut:
Agreed with the songs suggestion, would be nice. As for other Media Players. Have heard mention that TCPMP might allow control via the Bluetooth, but I've tried it and it wouldn't work.
There's also an update coming out sometime soon from Conduit the makers of Pocket Player that will do this. See their forum for details.
Hi Nooner,
I just got my headset this morning and been testing it for a while. I notice that music playback after a call doesn't work even though the music is still playing but just no sound is coming from the headset. Just wonder whether have you experience this problem b4. I am having a O2 wizard with the lastest rom. Thanks
cbchong said:
Hi Nooner,
I just got my headset this morning and been testing it for a while. I notice that music playback after a call doesn't work even though the music is still playing but just no sound is coming from the headset. Just wonder whether have you experience this problem b4. I am having a O2 wizard with the lastest rom. Thanks
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I don't have that problem, as nobody ever rings me :lol:
I have heard this as a problem. But joking aside, I've only had my headphones for about 5 days and usually only listen at work or to and from work (via the tube/underground), which is when I don't really receive calls.
But I've heard this reported. Don't know if it's the headphones or a problem with A2DP.
Thanks for the reply. I will try and search the forum and see. Will report back if I found anything.
In this user review he mentions the same problem http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?p=7463154#post7463154 Maybe its because of the A2DP patch but I dont have the problem with a Nokia HS-12W or Itech Clip S.
Yes is exactly the same problem. But seems like no one has a solution for it so far.
Hi efjay,
Just wonder what do you think about the nokia hs12w. Do you have any problem with it at all or it just works fine with the phone. Cause I am thinking of returning the sony n get something else.
I just ordered mine. Will be here on Monday :lol:
Can't wait.
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Damn it. They just called and said it's on "national backorder"
Must find one....
cbchong said:
Hi efjay,
Just wonder what do you think about the nokia hs12w. Do you have any problem with it at all or it just works fine with the phone. Cause I am thinking of returning the sony n get something else.
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Have a look in this thread for opinions on the Nokia http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=48290
I myself think its good, solid build, large display, clear sound and the radio is an added bonus.
Hi,
i have a very disapointing situation with my NOKIA HS-12W. I have this gadget from 2 months, and now everybody started to complain, that they cant understand our conversation when i am using my headset. It is only 70 cm from my device when i am driving, it is in th holder. But the sound quality is good only when there is less than 20 cm between the device and the headset.They said, that the sound is noisy and they hear only parts of the words. Do you have the same experience, and is there any solution for that? Or i should reconsider the value of the bluetooth feature of this devce.
Many thanks for any help
jep same situation here. got a t-mobile Rom installed and also using Nokia HS-12W. only the first week i reached the +- 9 till 10 meters distance. I have changed some registry settings and now it doesn't work any more. just 20 cm for stereo sound and a lot of stuttering.
i get almost 30 feet from my HT820 and i-take bluepro headphones. i haven't tested my Jabra250, but it's probably pretty good.
Yes, i tought the same, that i have made some registry changes which caused this. But now, after a hard reset , without any registry changes i have the same problem
kucsi said:
Yes, i tought the same, that i have made some registry changes which caused this. But now, after a hard reset , without any registry changes i have the same problem
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same here... I've set my registry setting to medium quality so I've reduced the stuttering when it's on my side on my belt. When it's in headset mode I can move further but I can not move as long as 10 meters... s..cks.
Other choice was the SE HBH with the same design I think a 'normal' headset cannot be worn on the streets...
I have the Sony Ericsson stereo bt headset (simliar hang-around-the-neck style as the Nokia). When listening to music, I can't move the phone any further than my belt-clip without having the sound break-up.
So, in my experience, the maximum effective range is 10-20 cm. :x
wich ROM versions does everybody using?
Mine is: UNI_TMNL_130115_130233_11003_WWE_BL101_Ship
this is the latest T-mobile Rom what i know.
I am so sad. Until this i was so proud of having tis device.Today i talked with the QTEK service here in Hungary, and what they told, made me disapointed.They told, there was no solution for that.The Bluetooth antenna is too small, and there is nothing to do. So what is in the specification is a big lie. And they knew it. All we could do it to sue them . This device is to big for using as a standard phone.But with this bluetooth feature there is no other option
The Bluetooth Antenna on the Universal is fine, I can use Bluetooth ActiveSync to connect with my PC and it keeps signal even if I stand in the next room - so the problem is probably your Bluetooth headsets having a weak antenna, not the Universal...
sl9 said:
The Bluetooth Antenna on the Universal is fine, I can use Bluetooth ActiveSync to connect with my PC and it keeps signal even if I stand in the next room - so the problem is probably your Bluetooth headsets having a weak antenna, not the Universal...
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I also have no problems with the bt range for transering files & synching. I also was satisfied with the range & quality with mono bt headsets for telephone calls. However, for bt stereo the range has been quite disappointing.
hello where in the registry did you change those setings ?.. i want to try it out
me too wanna try this.
The quality of music with A2DP is really bad, have much better sound with my qtek s110 with a2dp hack. I have been using the same sony ericsson ds970. Is there anything that can be done about it?
perhaps you can follow the instruction to turn on the stereo, then the sound will be better.
This is my experience to. I had a SE m600i before and the sound was way much better on that device.
The sound clearly suckes with the headset that is packet with the P3600.
The sound on the S100 was far more better.
Lets just hope the ATi chip get's activated on the rom-update, so that the Graphics and Sound get better.
guys, could you please be more specific? what exactly made you unhappy about the sound produced by HTC Trinity?
please define the problem. is it too soft, too loud, lacking bass or higher frequencies, choppy, etc, etc????
P.S. forget about stock standard wired headset supplied with your Trinity. it's bad.
Azamat said:
The sound clearly suckes with the headset that is packet with the P3600.
The sound on the S100 was far more better.
Lets just hope the ATi chip get's activated on the rom-update, so that the Graphics and Sound get better.
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ATI chip?
Guys try using the Hermes Registry Tweaker
I used the hermes registry tweaker to take BT Stereo sound from "Okay" to "Excellent" the tool has five levels of quality as well a tweak to enable true stereo rather than joint stereo.
It worked for me! You can unlock and mount EXTrom too.
http://www.theunwired.net/?itemid=3311
It has a desturbing sound on the higher tones and the bas is muffled. I tried the fit4 program and changed to the best quality, it sounded a little bit better but it was hard to hear, beacuse now the music skips even more thnat earlier. You know you ger music for a while, it cuts of for a second and then comes back. Now it does this every 5 seconds.
CutePinkSox said:
I used the hermes registry tweaker to take BT Stereo sound from "Okay" to "Excellent" the tool has five levels of quality as well a tweak to enable true stereo rather than joint stereo.
It worked for me! You can unlock and mount EXTrom too.
http://www.theunwired.net/?itemid=3311
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just tested it here. seems to work. The setting was on LOW on my trinity.
I also tried to turn on the GPS settings, which turned on a nice little menu for configuration of the GPS. Looks promising if this is what we get
does not look like the settings gets any gps functionality to be activated besides the settings.
Excellent
Made a big diference on mine too! Nice to know it worked for you.
Try this to disable joint stereo so you get REAL stereo sound, then you will see the difference.
..now the music skips even more thnat earlier. You know you ger music for a while, it cuts of for a second and then comes back. Now it does this every 5 seconds.
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please see this thread for details. There are good chances for this little gem to work on Trinity as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284974
you guys might also want to check out the effort made to port the WIDCOMM stack onto the hermes (to replace the microsoft BT stack). the widcomm stack is superioir and the testers so far have indicated that sound on a2dp is great. the hermes and trinity are basically the same... so it might work.
the development thread is here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285419&highlight=widcomm+development
also consider a donation if you like here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284329&highlight=100+users
Last time I tried the Widcomm stack the stack started well, but I couldn't see any bluetooth device. The blue-led did not flash either.
Can't find any bluetooth device.
adewidt said:
Last time I tried the Widcomm stack the stack started well, but I couldn't see any bluetooth device. The blue-led did not flash either.
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Same here ....
3D surround configuration
On page 78 of Trinity's manual there is an instruction to set the 3D surround configuration at the headset by going to
Start> Settings > Personal > 3D Surround Sound
and enabling surround sound + setting levels.
I simply can't find the "3D surround sound" selection at >Personal tab...
Can someone help me to configure (eventually by using some registry configuration) how to make this command to appear?
Seems to me this could help to improve stereo quality at P3600...
low volume on p3600i
SecureGSM said:
guys, could you please be more specific? what exactly made you unhappy about the sound produced by HTC Trinity?
please define the problem. is it too soft, too loud, lacking bass or higher frequencies, choppy, etc, etc????
P.S. forget about stock standard wired headset supplied with your Trinity. it's bad.
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The problem with my new p3600i is that the volume is much too low. With volume control at max setting, I can just hear music in a quiet environment. e.g. an empty room. When there is any background noise, e.g walking along the street, on a train etc, it is almost inaudible. I am mainly listening to classical music, so the dynamic variation is greater than for rock etc., but nevertheless very disappointing.
I am using the supplied headset, but the sound is not loud enough to know what the quality is like.
Are there any setting I haven't found yet? All the talk about changing the ROM sounds like something which might void the warranty
thanks
John
I have used HTC_UseJointStereff.cab and HTweakC, it seems that the sound changes a little, i don't konw which helps, but they help....
Thank you all.
I am trying Touch HD with a Jabra 620s, A2DP (stereo headset profile), but I suffer occasional music skips.
I have read numerous thread about this problem, and habitual registery fixes like Priority256 etc.. doesnot seems to work with Touch HD.
With Bitpool=30 I have no skip, but sound is awful.
With Bitpool=40 I begin to skip. JOINEDSTEREO=1 helps a little.
I have not tried all Bitpool values below 40 (painful, softreset etc..) but Bitpool=40 is minimum quality IMO.
I tweaked Priority256 (/HKLM/Drivers/BuiltIn/BtA2dpSnd) down to 1, with not much improvement.
I noticed also turning Wifi off helps, but it is no sufficient.
Does anyone of you use A2DP ? Do you have problems ? Thanks for your help.
i use it with the Sony Ericsson DS980 and i dont have any problems at all.. the only thing i notice is that the screen turns on every time i change the song.. any way to get rid of that? want to save battery lol.. ..
I get skips too. Haven't figured a solution yet.
I'm using Moto S9 stereo BT headset, I have the same problem......
And I noticed, when I start play music, and press the powerbutton make the HD enter the blackscreen mode, the quality is good, and music play very smooth, but if I press powerbutton again make the HD back to normal status, and screen on, big stutter occured, and after some seconds BT lost connect with HD......
It's a little outdated, however have you used Sleuth's A2DP fix?
i always got skips with a jabrabt620s and a trinity...well you can minimize it - but never get totally rid of the problem....this is an A2DP limitation, sensitive to EMI like wifi etc.
My suggestion: go to wires...
Skipping?
I've been using a Votager 855 A2DP headset for 6 or so months with Pocket player. It's an excellent application, complete with A2DP compliant equalizer.
I listen to head banging music, but it never skips...but maybe it does and I just don't notice between the bangs.
In another forum several months ago a person or two took up my suggestion on the PP app, and had good results with a stereo BT headset.
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It's a little outdated, however have you used Sleuth's A2DP fix?
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I've seen it, but not installed it for two reasons :
1) It isn't validated for WM6 nor for Touch HD
2) It seems to eat CPU time too much, according to certain posts
Thanks for the tips anyways. If someone more daring than me installs it on Touch HD, keeps up informed.
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i always got skips with a jabrabt620s and a trinity...well you can minimize it - but never get totally rid of the problem....this is an A2DP limitation, sensitive to EMI like wifi etc.
My suggestion: go to wires...
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A lot of people have problems with A2DP, but a lot too have none. I'm pretty sure problem comes from poor BT stack, not A2DP technology itself or BT broadcast / EMI problems. I've almost the same skipping rate with my headset 30cm from my HD, than 5 or 8m from my HD.
Your suggestion is wise, but I'm eager to make my Christmas present functionnal..
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I've been using a Votager 855 A2DP headset for 6 or so months with Pocket player. It's an excellent application, complete with A2DP compliant equalizer.
I listen to head banging music, but it never skips...but maybe it does and I just don't notice between the bangs.
In another forum several months ago a person or two took up my suggestion on the PP app, and had good results with a stereo BT headset.
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I've just downloaded it and tryied it. For now, no skip at all !!! (with BitPool=42) This application seems to be very optimized for A2DP.
I keep you informed in this thread if this resolves my issue. I want to increase Bitpool to 50 or more to have optimal quality (I listen classical), and I hope PP will handle this datarate.
Thanks for this excellent advice audscott.
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i use it with the Sony Ericsson DS980 and i dont have any problems at all.. the only thing i notice is that the screen turns on every time i change the song.. any way to get rid of that? want to save battery lol.. ..
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I also have had no problems using the HBH-DS980 except that I too can't get it to stay in 'standby mode'.
I started a thread on this exact same issue, but have had no joy up until now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=462376
Any help or pointers in the right direction would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers.
Mav.
dear all,
i remember searching up for ad2p anti-skip quite a few months back.
my conclusion was the following settings:
jointstereo -> turn on
samplerate -> 48000
remove all bitrate settings
then all should be well.
The previous settings that involves bitrate, priorit256 are meant for wm5 devices.
in wm6.1, most of these are redundant. in my case, the above settings works perfectly on my itech blueband pro. ad2p and avcrp works well with the default player or with wmp.
Where can one find these settings? I have looked high and low!
***Doh! Found them... HD Tweak is my friend!***
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dear all,
i remember searching up for ad2p anti-skip quite a few months back.
my conclusion was the following settings:
jointstereo -> turn on
samplerate -> 48000
remove all bitrate settings
then all should be well.
The previous settings that involves bitrate, priorit256 are meant for wm5 devices.
in wm6.1, most of these are redundant. in my case, the above settings works perfectly on my itech blueband pro. ad2p and avcrp works well with the default player or with wmp.
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I also have iTech BlueWhatEver and it works better, but still ones a few minutes sound skips
Also how to prevent phone from waking up from standby when I press pause/ff/rew button? Because it's ****ing annoying, I have to manually turn phone back off, so avcrp is totally useless if I have to touch the phone.
I suggest you lower the bitrate to 44100. 48k is useless since your mp3 are in 44.1kHz and you will save some CPU, bandwith
Jointstereo = 0 is prefered for quality purposes.
Then the bitpool ... this is where it gets tricky because every headset have their own limitations.
When i use it with my sony ericsson HBH-IS800 I can go up to 48.
If I use another device I need to lower it to 40.
The "CPU" of you headset needs to be taken into account.
The touch HD have no difficulties encoding SBC in realtime in high bitrate, the issue comes from the headset itself not able to decode SBC fast enough according to the bitpool you chose.
So there's nothing you can do except trying another BT Stack (that can have better SBC encoding algorithm) or changing you A2DP headset.
Hi guys
i read xda so much, but i don't write as well
i have a big issue with my galaxy s 2
i use a bt car stereo, with a2dp and avrcp support
i used to stream all my music collection from my iphone4
now i got my sgs2 and i love it... but
the audio stream looks "limited"
it seems a bandwidth issue, or i don't know a quality issue
with iphone4 i streamed at full quality, now the sgs2 sounds a lot worst
other than that, i have to disable wifi because if on, the music is choppy and skips a lot
with wifi off, the stream goes well, but it sound bad...
sorry for my not so perfect english... i hope there is a way to improve sound quality because i "live" with a2dp on in my car...
That's strange. My a2dp stream actually sound better from sgs2 than it does from my ipod touch 2nd gen, iphone or my computer (bluez).
Receiver is a belkin stereo a2dp receiver.
Are you sure that it's not in handsfree mode? Long press the a2dp device in bluetooth settings and there should be an option to select it to be a media device, make sure it's checked.
thanks for the reply gvoima, no it's in media device mode
i think the problem is the bitpool
i've got the same problem of this guy: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=708685
there is an mp3 sample of the problem in the first page
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That's strange. My a2dp stream actually sound better from sgs2 than it does from my ipod touch 2nd gen, iphone or my computer (bluez).
Receiver is a belkin stereo a2dp receiver.
Are you sure that it's not in handsfree mode? Long press the a2dp device in bluetooth settings and there should be an option to select it to be a media device, make sure it's checked.
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I got a belkin stereo receiver as well, but it sounds bad and choppy, just like the topic starter described. Though still compressed (this is a known issue for A2DP due to bandwidth limitations) songs sounds much better from my Nokia E52 work phone.
rikc said:
I got a belkin stereo receiver as well, but it sounds bad and choppy, just like the topic starter described. Though still compressed (this is a known issue for A2DP due to bandwidth limitations) songs sounds much better from my Nokia E52 work phone.
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The "but my (insert phone) worked better" isn't really valid. For as many people who make that statement there are an equal number who are shocked that the SGS2 works where other phones haven't. This is kind of like the Wi-Fi issue. When two pieces of equipment don't interact well you can't just blame one of them.
In my car and on my Yamaha YSP-4000 the SGS2's Bluetooth works better than any phone I've used. That includes the HD2, G2, and G2X. The sound is much more defined and headset controls (random and repeat) show available for the first time. The SGS2 also feeds track info to the car which none of the others did.
Bluetooth connections and sound quality are always a big YMMV.
My Sony MW600 sound great, I use to have a Motorola Defy , and it use to have an "Enhanced Stereo" option in the blue-tooth menu, the Samsung S2 does not have this option.
@BarryH,
Oh I know, I not blaming the SGS2. I only think the SGS2 out sound to it's output module which is somehow less suitable for the kind of compression, maybe set by the Belkin module. Actually I'm currious if there would be ways to change the way the SGS2 sends sound signals via A2DP
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@BarryH,
Oh I know, I not blaming the SGS2. I only think the SGS2 out sound to it's output module which is somehow less suitable for the kind of compression, maybe set by the Belkin module. Actually I'm currious if there would be ways to change the way the SGS2 sends sound signals via A2DP
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LG's implementation of Bluetooth drove G2X owners crazy. Check out this thread from the G2X forum...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1117769
Maybe it will help. The only other solution for the G2X was installing an AOSP ROM.
Well, I tried it (Bluetooth Fix Repair), but off-course that tool is for a problem the SGS2 does not have.
From the tinkering I've done now I know.
- Having MusicFX installed does not make a difference
- Video players running ffmpeg codec do also not make much difference in sound quality
- The -type- of file does make a difference, i.e. low bitrate files play better
This makes me think, is there a music program which can resample/recode music before playing. I'd rather have software do that than A2DP do it badly, or is mono output (other than all the tools enabling playback on mono headsets which is for pre-A2DP headsets and thus something else) possible?
Edit /system/etc/bluetooth/audio.conf
Uncomment "Master" option and set it to "True".
Uncomment "MaxConnections" and set it to 3.
Most Android devices have this file configured poorly by default, those 2 settings should help though.
I'd suggest also enabling HFP and AutoConnect.
Great! That definitly reduced creaking/noises and even the occasional stuttering music!
Since you seem to know your stuff, would there be a way to send a mono signal to (only) the A2DP stack and would this decrease the 'tin can' effect? I'd rather have better upper tones than stereo.
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Edit /system/etc/bluetooth/audio.conf
Uncomment "Master" option and set it to "True".
Uncomment "MaxConnections" and set it to 3.
Most Android devices have this file configured poorly by default, those 2 settings should help though.
I'd suggest also enabling HFP and AutoConnect.
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Thanks for the suggestions...going to try this and see if the sound quality improves in my car stereo.
Till now the best A2dp sound quality was on my Nexus S, but that was with the help of custom rom development and vodoo sound. Worst was the g2x.
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Ok guys, I think I might have... accidentily... run into a phenonemon.
I tested my phone on a Creative D100 wireless speaker it it went great, no tin can sound, no hickups.
This proved to me that there had to be something wrong. Now when I was posting here earlier I was listening a lot to music and at a certain moment I thought... wait I'm not hearing a tin-can sound anymore. However, later on while testing I heard it again so I thought I imagined it.
Powering off the phone and powering on again I was able to create this again. No tin can sound... however a lot of hickups (as if a lot of data had to be sent and it didn't quite fit). I made a call to my work phone (sound on the handset) to test and then the tin can sound was there again, no hick ups anymore though. Strangely enough a haven't been able to replicate the 'no tin can sound but hickup situation' though by powering off and on again. Tried after playing on the Belkin on the D100 again and no problems at all, great sound and no hickups whatsoever.
It appears to be a bigger issue with android connected to the bitpool setting the bluetooth receiver desires...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14944891#post14944891
Let's hope the upcoming Cynogen can fix this issue.
I too felt that the A2DP sound quality on the Nokia BH103 is crap as compared to my Nokia 5800 (sounded even better than stock wired headset). It also uses a lot more battery, I find mediaserver using a lot of battery.
How do we escalate this to Samsung?
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Edit /system/etc/bluetooth/audio.conf
Uncomment "Master" option and set it to "True".
Uncomment "MaxConnections" and set it to 3.
Most Android devices have this file configured poorly by default, those 2 settings should help though.
I'd suggest also enabling HFP and AutoConnect.
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Sorry, i'm on darky rom and i don't find this file, could someone help me out ?
Thanks