Are better phone deals for my Artemis? - P3300, MDA Compact III upgrading etc.

Hi,
Just having been stung for a huge download charges from my phone provider, I want to plan to change my phone provider to another in about 12 months time.
Can anyone give me a simple guide to what the state of play is?
Advice and opinions welcome!
I notice threads asking about unlocking Artemis, I presume to allow another provider to be used.
I'm not sure whether other providers still require a monthly charge or whether a PAYG would become an option. I'm not sure about the viability of PAYG on other operators... can they still give Internet access for me?
Ann

Hi
i bought the Orbit from a O2 shop £35 a month (12 Mth Contract) which gives 400 mins per month and 100 txts both of which will carry over to the next month, in addition i have unlimited calls on SAT, SUN, and Monday. I intend to drop to the £20 option after 6 months. which means Iv'e paid £330 for the orbit over the Year and benifited from all the free calls.. I got the handset free.
I felt this way i am also covered against faults as i can just go to any O2 shop.

MGTF said:
Hi
i bought the Orbit from a O2 shop £35 a month (12 Mth Contract) which gives 400 mins per month and 100 txts both of which will carry over to the next month, in addition i have unlimited calls on SAT, SUN, and Monday. I intend to drop to the £20 option after 6 months. which means Iv'e paid £330 for the orbit over the Year and benifited from all the free calls.. I got the handset free.
I felt this way i am also covered against faults as i can just go to any O2 shop.
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Thanks for your reply. That's very helpful.
Is there an extra charge for Internet traffic?
e.g. per Mb
Finally, I had NOT noticed but TomTom was booting up at each soft reset. I turned it off but hadn't noticed that the GPRS was still live ... i.e. My bigger than expected bill from Copilot and Tom Tom
I had a look on the sd card and found the TomTom auto Autorun file called Start.exe in the root Dir of the card. I moved it into another folder and all is ok. TomTom only runs when I invoke it.
Thanks

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O2 suprisingly good Universal Deals at shop.o2.co.uk

Dear All,
I'm a current XDA I and II owner who has been spending an unhealthy amount of time on the xda-developers forum waiting for the Universal to be announced and then available.
To get right to the point, after considerable analysis I have concluded that O2 is shipping the best value XDA, plus in black it also looks the best IMHO!
To be Specific: (GBP = Pounds sterling)
a) Went to O2 shop website
http://shop.o2.co.uk/shop/o2uk/jsp/handset/SelectHandset.do?paramName=3g
b) choose XDA EXEC, select 12 Month tab, Online 50 contract
c) Phone costs 139.99 GBP
c2) Yes, I'll say that again: Phone costs 139.99 GBP
d) 12 months contract at 19 GBP monthly = 228 GBP
e) Total 12 month committment is about 370 GBP.
f) Customer service say unlocking is 15 GBP
g) Consider the ITS (International Traveller Option) for 3 GBP monthly to reduce the totally outrageous cost of non UK calls to only moderately outrageous.
The best deal I have seen so far. But wait for the potential gotchas:
1. Though I have saved a screen print I was suspicious that the 12 and 18th month contracts had the same online 50 tarrif. Hope not a shop error
2. I was sent an order reference but can't seem to check it online
3. O2 customer support say my order is with the credit checking dept and there may be a problem.
With my naive and optimistic head on I hope O2 will honour my order and I will be a happy and satisfied customer.
regards marcus :roll:
PS: it also says: Unlimited free GPRS and i-mode browsing until 31st December 2005 (though when I called customer support they said this was incorrect and are getting back to me Tuesday 18th December 2005)
They still only have the 2MB and 4MB data bundles though by the looks of things.
Not that you would want to risk the deal, but aren't you also free to switch tariffs after 6 months?
V
Could we in the US get that phone, with that plan, pay it in full, and just toddle off? No harm, no foul since paid in full for 12 months. Still a better deal than buying it here locally.
valheru: Could we in the US get that phone, with that plan, pay it in full, and just toddle off? No harm, no foul since paid in full for 12 months. Still a better deal than buying it here locally.
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heh - my thoughts exactly..
thats bout 690$ us !! 8)
could be nice ay?
Wow.. ok let me get this sorted in my head.. I can get a HTC Universal for one year for only £367.99? If so why do people pay £669.95 for the JASJAR?
A lot of people don't like getting involved in plans and have carrier locked phones. So they spend the big bucks and buy an unlocked device.
I'd really like to know if US residents can buy this device on the plan mentioned above and pay it in full. Save us about $500-$600 dollars US.
Anyone know?
O2 Online 500 Tarrif
I just got my O2 XDA Exec today and am still waiting for it to charge,
Not sure why they aren`t advertising it on the website but.
O2 have a fantastic tariff offers for new 3G handset customers.
I called the www.o2.co.uk/shop (08702257879) and was sold the "Online 500" package with the O2 XDA Exec handset.
O2 XDA Exec = £139.99
Online 500 = £35 per month (12 month contract)
500 inclusive X-network calls
500 text messages
1mb per month free GPRS
Also took the comprehensive insureance = £4.99 per month
(This phone is so expensive offline. That if I lost\damaged it I doubt that I`d buy it offline)
Noticed the comment on the O2 website about:
"Unlimited free GPRS and i-mode browsing until 31st December 2005"
I asked the sales rep to confirm and he says that if its on the website then its gospal. Also confirmed with O2 customer service.
I don`t think you can find a better Tariff...
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din007 said:
Noticed the comment on the O2 website about:
"Unlimited free GPRS and i-mode browsing until 31st December 2005"
I asked the sales rep to confirm and he says that if its on the website then its gospal. Also confirmed with O2 customer service.
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I'm pretty sure thats a mistake. Exec isn't an imode phone. So if the imode bit is wrong - the gprs bit is almost certainly wrong as well.
Please tell me how to dial the number from the US........(tech smart, analog phone DUMB)
amouses said:
Dear All,
I'm a current XDA I and II owner who has been spending an unhealthy amount of time on the xda-developers forum waiting for the Universal to be announced and then available.
To get right to the point, after considerable analysis I have concluded that O2 is shipping the best value XDA, plus in black it also looks the best IMHO!
To be Specific: (GBP = Pounds sterling)
a) Went to O2 shop website
http://shop.o2.co.uk/shop/o2uk/jsp/handset/SelectHandset.do?paramName=3g
b) choose XDA EXEC, select 12 Month tab, Online 50 contract
c) Phone costs 139.99 GBP
c2) Yes, I'll say that again: Phone costs 139.99 GBP
d) 12 months contract at 19 GBP monthly = 228 GBP
e) Total 12 month committment is about 370 GBP.
f) Customer service say unlocking is 15 GBP
g) Consider the ITS (International Traveller Option) for 3 GBP monthly to reduce the totally outrageous cost of non UK calls to only moderately outrageous.
The best deal I have seen so far. But wait for the potential gotchas:
1. Though I have saved a screen print I was suspicious that the 12 and 18th month contracts had the same online 50 tarrif. Hope not a shop error
2. I was sent an order reference but can't seem to check it online
3. O2 customer support say my order is with the credit checking dept and there may be a problem.
With my naive and optimistic head on I hope O2 will honour my order and I will be a happy and satisfied customer.
regards marcus :roll:
PS: it also says: Unlimited free GPRS and i-mode browsing until 31st December 2005 (though when I called customer support they said this was incorrect and are getting back to me Tuesday 18th December 2005)
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Hi. I went for the same deal and received it Monday morning The only disappointment is that even after 15mins of haggling, getting them to drop the price and contract rates, 02 couldn’t match it when upgrading my XDAII.
I don’t understand that at all :?
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din007 said:
Noticed the comment on the O2 website about:
"Unlimited free GPRS and i-mode browsing until 31st December 2005"
I asked the sales rep to confirm and he says that if its on the website then its gospal. Also confirmed with O2 customer service.
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O2 Customer service have confirmed that this is the offer on all 3G phones..
But please phone them yourself and see what they say.
I grabbed the above quote from their website...
Have a look
O2 Exec Deals
Just got mine for 109.99. They offered it at 229.99 but after I said I would take out another online deal for 139.99 + 19 per month for 12 months, they came back with this deal on my original contract. I am currently with O2 on contract @30 per month. This is now being reduced to £20 per month for the same minutes etc saving £120 over the year (leaves the phone costing 109.99).
This comes just at the right time for me as I'm testing Exchange SP2 with this device for a few companies that I deal with.
Roll on tomorrow!!!!
It doesn't have the feature pack install, how will you use the Ex 2003 SP2 puch mail without it?
First post so hello all!
I've just bought an XDA for £114.99 plus 12 month contract @ £19 per month.
http://shop.o2.co.uk/student/o2uk/j...tails.jsp?prodID=consumer:O2:XDAExec:3G:GROUP
I'm not a student and there were no eligibility checks.
Alternatively register with Quidco and get £35 off the £139.99 (eventually)
O2 XDA Exec..
I'm a tad confised
On the URL posted above it says "Pc Sync - No"
I 'm assuming that this is incorrect ................
http://shop.o2.co.uk/student/
looks like this is a student offer so they may limit what the device can do
Just placed my order for an XDA Exec from O2 shop too, hopefully it should be with me Saturday morning. I opted for the Online 200 at 30 pounds per month and got the handset for £139.99. I went into an O2 shop after work and although they had 2 in stock, they wanted me to pay more for a contract and still pay £149 for the phone! How ridiculous! Anyhow, I can't wait for my Exec to arrive, I shouldn't be upgrading really as I am only 5 months into an existing contract with my XDA IIs. Figure I can sell that with all the accessories (GPS etc) and break even paying off the rest of my existing contract.
Hope this free GPRS is not a mix up, nobody seems to know for sure, but hey we'll see!
Fin
Well a colleague and I have been using O2 GPRS with ActiveSync over the internet to sync with Exchange 2003 for months and still no data charge. So Im pretty sure the no charge deal is still on. It will be painful when it finishes though. I think they just want to hook everyone in.
ringram said:
Well a colleague and I have been using O2 GPRS with ActiveSync over the internet to sync with Exchange 2003 for months and still no data charge. So Im pretty sure the no charge deal is still on. It will be painful when it finishes though. I think they just want to hook everyone in.
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Er....that's 'cause you're connecting through your PC's internet connection?
Or have I misunderstood?

Free(?) GPRS on O2

My Xda has never caused me to be charged for GPRS useage. Even on O2 active downloads..........
I've checked my contract and I can see no reason for this strange occourance there.
Does anybody else have this strange ummmmm "problem".
The main problem I have is i'm now completely used to having the internet on my phone, and check my e-mail constantly, and am never signed off of MSN. I don't want to suddenly be hit by a HUGE bill.
tomw86 said:
My Xda has never caused me to be charged for GPRS useage. Even on O2 active downloads..........
I've checked my contract and I can see no reason for this strange occourance there.
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Is that O2 in the UK? I have just changed from O2 to T-Mobile but for the whole year I didn't get charged a penny for GPRS. My contract included 1MB free per month and I was regularly using 2 or 3MB. I read two possible causes for this: one was that they were offering free GPRS until 31st Dec '05, and another was that they simply had no way of working out charges for GPRS. Neither sound plausible to me.
Anyway - T-Mobile Web'n'Walk 100 - 100minutes per month, 40MB of data (£1 per MB after that), 18month contract, free MDA Compact II.....and nice and cheap as well....averages out at £22 per month.
I unfortunatly signed for 18 months (in june) on my O2 contract, to get my 50% extra free ("for life").
I technically only get 100kb free per month, and can often use 5Mb.....And web access isn't cheap on O2!
I've never been charged also.
Having been keeping on using 5~6M/Month,I'm waiting to check the bill of Jan,2006 to see wether they will charge or not.
I've had my O2 contract since January and never been charged for GPRS, and even swapped my original XDA II for an XDA Exec (Universal). I regularly use loads of bandwidth (about 500M+/month) as I don't have internet access at home.
I'm looking forward to see if the same applies to 3G!
Man, this is crazy! Sure you guys aren't going to have to leave the country when your bills come?!
I should download Platform Builder 5 like this
V
DAMMIT i have a 8 meg bundle on mine (O2)
i wonder if that means i will be charged as they know i will use it
HMMMMMM
never ever been charged a penny
Free GPRS
Good news for you guys,
Spoke to 02 earlier.
For pay monthly contract customers GPRS is completely free and unlimited until around May 2006, no matter how much you use you will never be charged.
For pay as ya go customers, 1st month on pay as you go comes with 5mb downloading included only.
So will o2 be charging existing customers after may 06 or is just new customers??
cheers
I'm glad I know when they're going to start charging, a grand for the internet is a bit much!
If only I could get bittorrent working without having to buy winmobile torrent ;-)!!!
Now I know that i'll leave it perminantly connected until then, and delete the connections after that!!!
tomw86 said:
Now I know that i'll leave it perminantly connected until then, and delete the connections after that!!!
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That's how I feel !
It seems to be mainly the online contracts that get this "perk" (I know people on o2 contracts that certainly do get billed for data !
I had an online tarrif for a year with my XDAII (cant remember the name . but it was 500 texts and 50 xnet minutes for £19) and found that I got never got billed a penny for data ! I was impressed ,and having previously abused the port 8080 loophole for free GPRS on PAYG online sims , I assumed that something in the seetings of the XDAII was doing something similar ! - but then I used the sim in my Nokia 9500 and then my Qtek s100 and found that I just never got billed , no matter what settings I used
This was something I took into consideration when looking for a new "deal" when I purchased my Exec (obviously crossing my fingers that it would still be free on my new contract !) -All you can eat GPRS is worth a fortune when you think about it and (IMO ) worth at least an extra £50 on your bill !
At least (if you are on an online contract) you can keep an eye on your usage on the website - My last contract always showed an inclusive 1mb , of which I had used 0 ( :lol: ) despite having used untold amounts !
I think I'll start to pay special attention to this in May/June :roll:
Just one thing - Have o2 not threatened to begin charging a few times before ? I am sure I recall a few "Deadlines" being mentioned in the past year or so ?
oops - double post , sorry !
yeah i heard that too was may last year also that they said theyd charge for gprs lol still free today :roll:
Hmmmm interesting.
I am on o2 200 (not an online contract) and was paranoid about gprs use as there is only 100k included. I have never paid for any data on this contract (even before getting the exec 2 weeks ago) but certainly must've used more than that.
I just logged into to their incomprehensible website where you can view your charges so far this month and it is showing nothing used - and I've been playing with Opera on the Exec!
I've had my O2 200 tariff for about 18 months & use the GPRS quite alot per month, even abroad, & have never been charged.
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All you can eat GPRS is worth a fortune when you think about it and (IMO ) worth at least an extra £50 on your bill !
At least (if you are on an online contract) you can keep an eye on your usage on the website - My last contract always showed an inclusive 1mb , of which I had used 0 ( :lol: ) despite having used untold amounts !
I think I'll start to pay special attention to this in May/June :roll:
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THat explains it! I've only just joined O2 (as an online customer) and I've been confused about having used ZERO of my free 5 meg browse. I assumed it was free because it was all free until 31st Dec. I am meant to get 1 Meg a month.
I agree with EVERYTHING I have quoted above: It's worth a fortune; I keep checking online and have used 0; and I will pay close attention in future! :lol:
Not sure where I will go after o2 stop this "madness"
Probably orange PAYG on the £1 per day thing if it is still availabe(despite having existing contracts with Orange and Voda at the moment )
Is this still working?
I have been on o2 250 for the past month - their online billing shows 0 used despite me using it regularly. The inclusive 100K seems to disappear after a few pages.
Does anyone know if it is really free until May 2006? I note another thread where someone says they have received a text message from o2 saying that their free trial is over and they will be charged after 31st March.
I cannot see that o2 aren't aware of this, or that they cannot measure it as they are a technology company :roll:.
As I only had the Welcome Download (5MB) in the first month, and nothing appeared to be logged (on the website anyway), how would I know if I was part of their free trial? (mentioned above about text message stating it had ended). Are we sure that they are not logging it and it just hasn't appeared on the website due to a technical problem (only for them to present a bill later). Is there a limit to how long after you have used this that they can bill you?
Many thanks
Anon

[O2 shop] XDA Exec on Data 5 tariff - minimum term cost £162

Here's how:
In the January 06 guide from the O2 shop on page 33 the O2 XDA Exec is listed as free on any business tariff of £45 and above and £99.99 on all other business tariffs (this brochure is freely available from any O2 shop in case the O2 staff don't believe you when you ask for this deal - otherwise, a copy of the relevant page is attached to this message).
The cheapest available business tariff is the standalone Data 5 tariff at £9.40 per month inc VAT (£8 per month ex VAT) which has a minimum term committment of 12 months. Furthermore, if you trade in an old phone when you get the XDA Exec then you will receive a cheque back for £50 within 28 days.
Minimum term cost:
O2 XDA Exec: £99.99
Data 5 tariff (£9.40 x 12 months): £112.80
Trade-in old phone: -£50
Total: £162.79
So for £162.79 you get a Windows Mobile 5 Pocket PC with VGA screen/camera/keyboard/bluetooth/wifi/GPRS/3G/GSM mobile. I don't think a deal like this is going to happen again within the next few years
err... don't you have to take out a voice tariff as well as a data tariff?
No you don't, the data tariffs can be taken out as standalone tariffs.
So a good deal as long as you are happy having a phone that can't make voice calls.
Well, you could always use a different SIM card in the phone :wink:
Edit: since the phone is supplied unlocked you could even use a SIM card from a different provider.
binary0110 said:
Well, you could always use a different SIM card in the phone :wink:
Edit: since the phone is supplied unlocked you could even use a SIM card from a different provider.
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So, you need to factor in the cost of the voice calls and rental on the other sim anyhow?
Doesn't seem like such a blistering deal then.
@B Biker, its a great deal if you have a contract already (and therefore a SIM card) as your capital cost of the Exec is less than £200 - not bad given the cheapest SIM free deal is £550. But if you want a normal 12 month voice (and perhaps data) contract then you'll need to shop around. Please note that on the Data36 tariff (£15 per month and 36MB of data) voice calls are at the Pay as You rate but for Data 5 you cannot have voice calls at all. And if you're really smart you could buy the Exec on the Data 5 tariff, sell it on eBay for £400 and have a near £200 profit which you can use towards the real phone you want.
jah said:
you can use towards the real phone you want.
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The Exec is everything I need in a phone.... there's nowt it can't do...
belfast-biker said:
binary0110 said:
Well, you could always use a different SIM card in the phone :wink:
Edit: since the phone is supplied unlocked you could even use a SIM card from a different provider.
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So, you need to factor in the cost of the voice calls and rental on the other sim anyhow?
Doesn't seem like such a blistering deal then.
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The point is that the maximum you would have to pay for the device is £162.79. What SIM card you decide to use with the phone is entirely up to you. It is now possible (with cashback deals) to sign up to a contract which costs nil over the minimum contract period (see http://www.mobileswizard.co.uk/12monthsfree.asp?free=12 for examples). So, if you were to sign up to such a contract, you would be able to use it in the O2 XDA Exec and just keep the original O2 SIM (connected to the Data 5 tariff) safely stored for the next 12 months after which you cancel the contract (since this is the minimum period for which you must remain connected to O2).
I hope that helps to explain why this is such a good deal.
well, I think 99% of the people who read your first post understood why this is a DAMN good deal ...
Yeah I agree. Buy the device for £162 and you have an awesome 3G PDA for a tiny price! 8)
if you ask ( alot) tyou can get voice added to data5 ( 20p pm- no etra line rental)
Do you need to own a company to buy this offfer? The tariffs are refered to as "business". With the previous offer (for 293 punds) the Data 5 tariffs could be taken out without company.
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well, I think 99% of the people who read your first post understood why this is a DAMN good deal ...
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It's truly not a bad deal (£99 price is v.good), but relies on you having an old mobile phone for trade in in the 1st place, and if you use a lot of voicecalls like I do, you've got to go and organise a voice deal somewhere anyhow*, and pay for that. And the data5 tariff, taken by itself, is shockingly bad value.
Personally more than happy to pay £35 a month for 500mins, doubled for 1st 6 months.
But your offer isn't a bad deal by any measure.
* Although those free rental deals look interesting - might go for one of those for my mum. What's the catch - the first one says it's £30 a month from month 13 onwards - what's the minimum period in that deal?
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Do you need to own a company to buy this offfer? The tariffs are refered to as "business". With the previous offer (for 293 punds) the Data 5 tariffs could be taken out without company.
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I work for O2 B2B, and one stipulation that is made before we can offer a business deal is that the customer tells us that they work for the business and at least a portion of the calls to be made on the handset are related to the business. So, for example, we could even sell to an employee, as long as they told us they had permission from the owner of the business, and his or her DOB. As you'd imagine, quite a lot of this must be taken on faith.
We've been pulled a few times for hinting to customers to say the right thing too.. "Do you even make the odd work related call, say, if you're running late and need to speak to the boss to let him know"?
Otherwise, we have to pass, and let B2C deal with it.
belfast-biker said:
mda2k said:
well, I think 99% of the people who read your first post understood why this is a DAMN good deal ...
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It's truly not a bad deal (£99 price is v.good), but relies on you having an old mobile phone for trade in in the 1st place, and if you use a lot of voicecalls like I do, you've got to go and organise a voice deal somewhere anyhow*, and pay for that. And the data5 tariff, taken by itself, is shockingly bad value.
Personally more than happy to pay £35 a month for 500mins, doubled for 1st 6 months.
But your offer isn't a bad deal by any measure.
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The point is that if the phone is unlocked, it doesn't really matter how good or bad the data 5 tariff is - you don't have to use the O2 contract with the XDA Exec. You could just store the O2 SIM card away safely, forget about it for 12 months and then cancel the contract after that. Meanwhile, you could use any SIM card you like in the O2 XDA Exec which (after taking into account the amount of line rental paid for the contract) will have only cost you £162.97. In effect, you have bought a SIM free HTC Universal/I-mate Jasjar/Qtek 9000/MDA Pro/XDA Exec/SPV M5000 (whatever you want to call it - the hardware is the same!) for only £162.97.
On the other hand, if you were to choose to get the phone on a £35 per month tariff on a 12 month contract, you would have to pay at least a minimum of £420 for the phone (i.e. 12 x £35) not to mention the cost to buy the phone in the first place (which would be £99.99 anyway since the line rental is less than £45 per month) so you will end up spending £469.99 (assuming you trade-in an old phone for £50 chequeback) over the initial 12 month contract period. Given that it is now possible to sign up to a contract with 12 months free line rental via cashback with ~200 free minutes/texts per month (which I will explain below), this is a false economy.
* Although those free rental deals look interesting - might go for one of those for my mum. What's the catch - the first one says it's £30 a month from month 13 onwards - what's the minimum period in that deal?
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The minimum term for those contracts is 12 months (after which you can cancel your contract and get a new one). The way this works is that you send back copies of your bills as you receive them (e.g. after 4 months, 8 months or 12 months of starting the contract - to prove that you are still on the original contract) to the mobile phone retailer who will reimburse you (usually by cheque) to cover the cost of the line rental which you have so far paid to the mobile phone operator.
Thus, if you were to go with the £162.97 deal for the O2 XDA Exec which I originally posted, you could subsequently sign up to a 12 month free rental cash back deal and use the SIM card provided in the XDA Exec. Yes, it's a bit of a hassle, but I think it's worth it to save hundreds of pounds.
I signed up for my Exec just before Christmas in a local O2 shop of a Data36 tarif - I was never asked if this was for a business or not.
I was told at the time that I could make and receive calls but I would be paying 30p / minute everytime I called out. That turned out to be incorrect and after five calls to various parts of O2 they agreed to turn on the call option without the need for a further voice tarif. The calls are also a little cheaper at 25p / minute when I make them.
So I am paying £17 / month for Data36 with option to make calls and texts at cost but also obviously receive calls and texts.
That's not too bad I don't think.
B-Biker, sorry mate I have a different view. My XDA Exec is not a good phone. Its a great PDA/mini tablet with fantastic connectivity but its not really as good as my Nokia 9500 or my older Treo 650 when it comes to phone functionality and call quality/reception. Also I can't get the BT headset volume to increased (tried 3 BT headsets).
I purchased a XDA Exec on the business Data 5 tariff also in early October and I was not asked any questions about usage etc (total price at that time was £293).
jah said:
B-Biker, sorry mate I have a different view. My XDA Exec is not a good phone. Its a great PDA/mini tablet with fantastic connectivity but its not really as good as my Nokia 9500 or my older Treo 650 when it comes to phone functionality and call quality/reception. Also I can't get the BT headset volume to increased (tried 3 BT headsets).
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Different views are fine, it is christmas after all!
I do find the sound quality easily a match for my last fone, a decent Sony Ericsson, and *much* better than my JAM.
My cheapie (£18 a year or so ago) AMB-02 BT headset is also plenty loud, which ones have you tried?
We can agree that it is a mindblowingly good mini mini laptop thing though...
My understanding of the data tariff only are that you can make voice calls too with them at the rate of 25pence per minutes with nothing bundled ! Text messages at 12pence per minute.
Have a look:
http://www.o2.co.uk/business/tariffs/datatariffs/0,,203,00.html
go to above link and at the bottom of page have a look at data tariffs pricelist (a PDF file)

Touch HD on Orange

Hi all,
After trawling around the web to help me make the decision on whether or not to get the touch HD...or an iPhone, I've finally got a Touch HD through Orange upgrades. Getting 400mins, unltd texts, 500mb data for £22.50 per month. Had to pay £100 for the handset though! My phone is getting delivered on Monday, and I've heard a lot about tweaks for the device, where do I find these? Which ones would seasoned users of the HD recommend installing?
you got two choices
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=463783
or for a better way of doing it, but have a good read first because you can screw things up if you do it wrong.
First point of call before you do anything
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=431217
then head on over to and update your ROM, this contains many of the tweaks and is a fine ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=461228
if you fancy watching movies on your HD
head to
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
download that re-encode your movie and enjoy!
ChilledDJ said:
Hi all,
After trawling around the web to help me make the decision on whether or not to get the touch HD...or an iPhone, I've finally got a Touch HD through Orange upgrades. Getting 400mins, unltd texts, 500mb data for £22.50 per month. Had to pay £100 for the handset though! My phone is getting delivered on Monday, and I've heard a lot about tweaks for the device, where do I find these? Which ones would seasoned users of the HD recommend installing?
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That sounds like a good deal, I just upgraded on Orange and am paying £19 for just the minutes and texts as didn't know what data bundle i needed, online the data bundle is £7.50 for 250mb so how did you get that deal???
Garfoid said:
That sounds like a good deal, I just upgraded on Orange and am paying £19 for just the minutes and texts as didn't know what data bundle i needed, online the data bundle is £7.50 for 250mb so how did you get that deal???
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They've recently changed this and its now £5 for 500mb
yea just phone the customer service they will add it for you £5 for 500 mb, and dont forget to add orange cae for £6, great value for money, then you dont have to worry about anything hapening to the device.
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yea just phone the customer service they will add it for you £5 for 500 mb, and dont forget to add orange cae for £6, great value for money, then you dont have to worry about anything hapening to the device.
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sweet! thanks for the heads up guys
I rung them about a month ago for a package and they were asking for £7.50 for 250MB off-peak!!! - this is a bargain, also took out orange care, never know when I'm going to need it
considering the HD is one of the epensive devices they sell well worth going for that flat rate of £6 a month , now you dont have to worry about it evey 2 minutes
When I upgraded back in November I was told I was getting 500mb of data a month for free, anyway after my second bill arrived I decided to check my usage for the month - I was surprised to see that I had only used 320MB but even more surprised to see that the package was shown as unlimited.
Has anyone else looked at their bill?
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When I upgraded back in November I was told I was getting 500mb of data a month for free, anyway after my second bill arrived I decided to check my usage for the month - I was surprised to see that I had only used 320MB but even more surprised to see that the package was shown as unlimited.
Has anyone else looked at their bill?
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The exact description of the data package appears to vary a lot between paperwork/staff/bills. On the phone they describe it as "Unlimited with a 500Mb Fair Usage). But online it's described as a "500Mb limit". Sounds like their billing calls it unlimited.
The impression I get is that £5 for 500Mb is for new contracts only (including upgrades) and you commit to it for the length of the contract. If you add it to an existing contract, it's £7.50 for 250Mb, but you make no commitment and can remove it next month.
Now is an excellent time to be upgrading as, at this time of credit crunch and general economic downturn, retentions departments are desperate to keep customers. By observing that I could get an iPhone, Storm or G1 for free by moving away from Orange, I managed to effectively get the Touch HD for £15.50 on a £20/month contract, including the 500Mb data. Granted I only get 200 mins, but I never use them anyway. I also had to pay £195.95 upfront, but it's offset by £180 airtime credit (meaning I effectively don't pay a bill for the next 8 months or so)
Htc touch hd for only £59.99 !!!
Hi,
I got my Htc Touch Hd only a few days ago , vost only £59.99 , this is the lowest price I have seen on any UK online or shop retailer! I opted for the lowest Orange Contract Racoon 20 , I have to pay £19.57 Every Month.
I'll Probably cancel the contract after 12 months , this is allowed in the terms and conditions of Orange.
The website where I got my phone : http://www.buymobilephones.net/
I have just unlocked it , put a T-mobile chip in it , I had a Mda Vario 2 since 2006 , my contract expired , t-mobile haven't released the MDA VARIO 4 , as this was the phone I wanted , couldn't wait , so I get the Touch Hd.
Anyway , it a great phone , bbc iplayer , even bbc live news works perfectly , only works with opera , the website you need to enter is :www.bbc.co.uk/mobile/iplayer/
Ordered a Touch HD on Orange yesterday - as an Upgrade from my current phone/contract (Nokia E65/Racoon 25).
Speaking to the retentions department I got:
HTC Touch HD on Panther £40 (1200Mins/500Texts/500Mb internet/Unlimited Landline) + £5 Orange Care. The Touch HD I bargained down to £28.50! (yes it's a more expensive monthly package, and 18 months).
Currently Orange are doing an offer for a FREE Touch HD on a £35 montlhy contract (but for 24 months)
dazza9075 - thanks for those links!
Have order mine at £28.50 with a Panther 40 plan + £5 Orange Care. That was an upgrade from the Retentions department.
Dazza - thanks for the links!
RE the Orange plans - the Panther plans have 500Mb data "as standard" now, and the other plans (except the really low cost Racoon plans) have the 500Mb data as a £5 bundle.
Incidentally - if you're not on a contract, or don't mind changing number - they're doing a January sale with a FREE Touch HD on a Dolphin £35 24 month contract.
The people here who have got orange care, Do you intend updating the ROM on your phones?, As this would surely invalidate the care option.
if it does, i would back up the rom, on to a pc, the utility is found somewhere on this forum, its what i'm planning on doing, i'm on orange aswell paying just ova 40quid a month, i'm a new orange customer from 02, 600 mins unltd txts and 500mb data and the orange care, and do orange release rom updates from the htc phones, on the htc website there atest rom was released in dec08, the 1 i hav is Rom 1.19.61.1 date 11/25/08 radio 1.09.25.14, as fellow orange htc HD owners what version of rom are u using.
Edit: the rom is for the asia release ( http://www.htc.com/hk-en/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=179&cat=2&dl_id=453 )
Also in the following link in this forum ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3048728 )
Can you post this ROM
here is my rom whioch i dumped earlier 2day its the orange rom
http://rapidshare.com/files/191585731/ruu_signed.rar
chand4u76 said:
Can you post this ROM
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just taken delivery of phone from orange. been with them for ten years managed to get 'limitless' data some texts( never use), free landline calls, 700mins all network, paid £90.00 for phone and then got another 3.50? as loyal customer from the lady in india. First impresions
1 orange can certainly **** up a phone with there own rubish programs.
2 do not like the fact they take of programs.
3 came with micro card 8mb quite good
4 charger is rubbish silly shape in some locations
5 cases from htc getting worse have ordered cyrstal cases off ebat from uk dealer. but i bet it comes from china by post.
6 I have had other htc and atoms so am use to these always replace roms not sure if i will keep 3d flo as it seems slow.
7 please god let microsoft deliver a good operating system for next mobiles.
8 If they do not offer upgrades then they will loose me to apple. I have stuck with microsoft through thick and thin. More thin and I would like to be treated nicely for once.
9 will need to install agenda one as built in contacts still pants. agenda 1 lets you link contacts to diary.
10 bluetooth on this phone easier and clearer than than on atom.
11 does feel big please don,t let me snap it.
12 why are htc accessories not as snazzy as iphones.
Thanks for uploading
Got 400mins, unlimited texts, unlimited web browsing anytime, made sure of this as it is needed with the HD, phone for 48.50 on 18 month contract for £9.79pm, happy with that, just keep badgering them and they have a new computer system which i was lucky enough to get onto.
cjovic said:
Got 400mins, unlimited texts, unlimited web browsing anytime, made sure of this as it is needed with the HD, phone for 48.50 on 18 month contract for £9.79pm, happy with that, just keep badgering them and they have a new computer system which i was lucky enough to get onto.
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That's better than my deal! But I got what I need, at least.
100 minutes, 300 texts, unlimited mobile internet, phone for £48.50 and a free bluetooth headset. £10 p/m for 9 months, then £15 p/m for the other 9 months. By the end of it, I've not even paid for the phone, let alone the bluetooth headset!
Took a LOT of convincing to get that, though. "O2 are giving me the phone for free." was my opener. By the end I was all "Any sweeteners? Laptop? iPod? ... Bluetooth?"

O2 HD2 price increase wtf!!!

I am ordering my hd2 form o2 next week and just looked on there site to check its in stock and nosited that they have changed the packages they they will do and also put the phone up by £50
why not do what i did and order it through a 3rd party online. you wont have to pay £50 and your billed direct by o2 anyway.......
or get it on virgin, you get more for your money... they use the t-mobile network.
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or get it on virgin, you get more for your money... they use the t-mobile network.
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It's worth paying the extra on O2 though virgin/tmobile network is utterly useless compared to O2...
One bad thing about O2 though... their online stock monitoring means bugger-all... you have to call up to find out if they have stock... I ordered mine online and it took them 1 1/2 weeks to get it to me, despite it stating "in stock" on the website when I ordered and throughout the period I was waiting, when their phone staff were telling me it was out of stock with no projected arrival date...
Just check on the website... seems their plans have gone up in price by roughly 5 quid/month... yikes! I got 600 mins/1000 texts/unlimited data for 35/month with 100 for the phone... they're now claiming unlimited texts, but who uses more than 1000 a month?
Ouch! That is a big price rise! I got mine 600 Mins/100Texts/Unlimited Data for £35 with a free phone (upgrading)!
mms
Hi guys, kinda off topic but was wondering if any of you o2 uk users are able to use mms when flashing with a cooked rom...
I cant recieve them at all with cooked ROM, even after manualy inputting settings.
If you can send and recieve plz could I know what ROM u use
Regards and Thanx
T-Mobile Contract 300
Hi Guys,
I hope this helps. My first post so excuse any mistakes.
I just got tmobile contract 24 months 300 mins , 300 text, unlimited lan line, 172 phone cost. Will get phone pn Tuesday
donwhann said:
why not do what i did and order it through a 3rd party online. you wont have to pay £50 and your billed direct by o2 anyway.......
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can i ask were did u order your from??
I just got mine for free on wednesday on o2. they price matched t mobile. it took me 2 visits to the shop and a call.....
30 a month 24 month contract 600 mins 500 texts. the day before they wanted 100 for the phone on same terms.
haggle em. its well worth it.
posting this from my hd2 now lol. it rocks!
igot mine on virgin £25 a month 500mins 3000 texts 1gb internet usage phone cost £79 and thats on a 18month contract thats £529 over the 18months the phone its self cost about £500 so its a good deal
What Gav said - I got mine from o2 price matched to T-mobile (i think) meant I got the phone for free on an upgrade - £35 a month for 600 mins, too many texts to use and unlimited interweb access.
yes i heard about this, because the are really low on stock in o2 for that phone, i hv ordered mine online 2 months ago and Im on 24 months, 25 pounds a month, 600 + 200 minutes,unlimited text and unlimited data with free phone, but I was upgrading so maybe it is dif than signing on new contract.
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low on stock in o2 for that phone,
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which is probably why the price increase, , ,, also to prime the market for a 'sale - price drop on hd2!' in a few months.
jsmith_00 said:
I am ordering my hd2 form o2 next week and just looked on there site to check its in stock and nosited that they have changed the packages they they will do and also put the phone up by £50
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Hi.
get the phone sim-free on either the Orange or Vodafone network from zero cost, go here: mobiles.co.uk
With it being sim-free you can get latest ROM+updates from HTC directly. Besides really good offers on at the moment. Have got 3 HD2's from this company NO PROBLEMS with any of the three handsets.
O2 and Vodafone network are messing about with HD2 because of Apple pressure (iphone). Orange is also best network for HSPDA connection.
well... hearing this, I've got quite good upgrade deal dec. last year. £35 per month plus free web bolt on, 18 mths contract and hd2 for about 30 quid.
Virgin also here
£25 month
18 months
500 min
waay too many texts
and 1 gb internet
+ £79 for the phone
Best deal!
mines 24 months
800 mins
unlimted texts
unlimted virgin to virgin
1g of net
30 quid a month
and fone was free
Just upgraded to HD2 today with o2 and got 1200 minutes, unlimited texts, unlimited data (web use) and free o2 to o2 calls for £40 per month on a 24 month contract and the free phone will be delivered Tuesday.
Was going to switch to T-Mobile if they could not give me a good deal as T-Mobile were offering 1200 mins, 500 texts, unlimited data, and an unlimited land-line calls bolt-on, on a 24 month contract with free phone for £35 per month, but unfortunately there coverage is not to good here where I live.
It seems we have all paid way different prices. Mine was £50 for the handset, and then 02 18 mth contract @ £35 a month, for 600mins, 500 text and unlimited data connection.
My turn...(upgrade deal)
O2 small business regular user 24mth contract
300 xnet mins
unltd O2 calls
10 unltd landlines
250 texts
unltd interwebby
free phone upgrade every 12 mths
free HD2
£27.38 mth+vat

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