Help! This can't be right. - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

I want to keep my two weeks old 8525 but the batt life is just not right.
Yesterday, it was 100% at 6am.
I have some phone calls but they were not long by any scretch, 1-2 mins long.
By 3pm, it was at 30% and by 4pm, it was at the 20% where BT won't work anymore.
And I haven't even used BT, wifi e.g. the whole day.
Last night, it was 100% charged so I turned off the radio and pda and unplugged it before bed.
This am, I turned the radio on and the phone was at 70% !!
I made a speakerphone call to my sister for 3 minutes.
The battery is now at 60% !!.
Could it be I'm not using the correct ac charger which I haven't broken out in light of the fact that I may have to return it.
I didn't think using my abundant Moto mini-usb chargers was a problem since it does reach 100%.
That said, though for some reason, my mini-usb car charger I used for my 8125, won't charge the 8525 at all.
I don't have any background apps nor any timed email retrievals.
Perhaps I have a defective batt or something.
Could it be that Mortsaver is sipping power continously?
Could it be because of 3g eventhough I see 'E' most of the time?
Does ne1 know how I can set the 8525 to just use Edge instead of 3g?
Thanks in advance.

bdbx18 said:
I want to keep my two weeks old 8525 but the batt life is just not right.
Yesterday, it was 100% at 6am.
I have some phone calls but they were not long by any scretch, 1-2 mins long.
By 3pm, it was at 30% and by 4pm, it was at the 20% where BT won't work anymore.
And I haven't even used BT, wifi e.g. the whole day.
Last night, it was 100% charged so I turned off the radio and pda and unplugged it before bed.
This am, I turned the radio on and the phone was at 70% !!
I made a speakerphone call to my sister for 3 minutes.
The battery is now at 60% !!.
Could it be I'm not using the correct ac charger which I haven't broken out in light of the fact that I may have to return it.
I didn't think using my abundant Moto mini-usb chargers was a problem since it does reach 100%.
That said, though for some reason, my mini-usb car charger I used for my 8125, won't charge the 8525 at all.
I don't have any background apps nor any timed email retrievals.
Perhaps I have a defective batt or something.
Could it be that Mortsaver is sipping power continously?
Could it be because of 3g eventhough I see 'E' most of the time?
Does ne1 know how I can set the 8525 to just use Edge instead of 3g?
Thanks in advance.
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check here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286844 for a today plug in that will allow you to use G instead of U... and the 8525 doesnt come with an E icon so you shouldnt see that unless you did something to change it.... Also battery life does suck on the 8525.. and you will want to break out the charger for this phone.. The moto charger is only a .5amp and may not actually charge your phone sometimes, whereas the factory charger is 1amp

shogunmark said:
check here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286844 for a today plug in that will allow you to use G instead of U... and the 8525 doesnt come with an E icon so you shouldnt see that unless you did something to change it.... Also battery life does suck on the 8525.. and you will want to break out the charger for this phone.. The moto charger is only a .5amp and may not actually charge your phone sometimes, whereas the factory charger is 1amp
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Hey Thanks!!! This would explain why the RAZR car charger they sold me at the cingular story doesn't always work to charge my hermes.....

slimsaturn said:
Hey Thanks!!! This would explain why the RAZR car charger they sold me at the cingular story doesn't always work to charge my hermes.....
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that could also be a grounding problem with the car charger.. we had a thread somewhere about all of that though.

bdbx18 - please use useful topic titles in your threads.
Do you know how many times I've throttled chipmunks using a reticulating fandango?
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shogunmark said:
that could also be a grounding problem with the car charger.. we had a thread somewhere about all of that though.
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Shogunmark
Think this is the one you were thinking of:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1076879&postcount=28
Mike

hey, theres that link i was looking for.. maybe i should save my replies for when i am near a pc so i can start finding links instead of using opera mobile on my phone..
and Mike, i hop thre isnt n e typ0s n ths post

I only remembered link cos I wrote a battery charging thingy for the wiki that's got that link. Speaking of typos I once wrote an article for a student paper which should have read "Exotic cocktails to cater for all tastes" but it actually read "Erotic cocktails to cater for all testes"
Mike

You two moderators are doing a great job upholding decorum in this thread. Don't make me come over there and spank you - somebody already seems to have a little something on the brain
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well mod or not, something like this was bound to happen sooner or later... ok.. im done i promise

Just joking! And you (shogunmark) should be asleep!
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Just joking! And you (shogunmark) should be asleep!
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im a trooper, i came to work today, that is where i am now
and now V is hijacking the thread

Thanks a bunch. Its 16 hrs now with about the same daily usage and I'm at 50%. Only difference is that I topped off the charge via my PC's usb. Either that or I'm no where near a 3G connection today.
Still I'm definitely going to break the ac adapter. It's practically the point of no return since I just finished converting the earphones to a 3.5 mm plug so I can resume using my phone to play mp3s in the car and home.
I'm on wifi now for the last 30 mins and the charge is still at the halfway point. So this one is a keeper.

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battery problem....wont charge if 0%

ok, on my xda mini s, if i plug the charger in at 2% to 99% it charges fine
but, i let the battery go so dead that it wont charge. so i bought another one and it did the same
is there a software fix for this? can i charge the batteries another way? both are only 6 weeks old and charge fine in my mates mini s (one of the first ones) mine is only 6 weeks old
its now getting very annoying
thanks
What are you running? G3 or G4, IPL/SPL, ROM version??
hi mate
ipl 2.21.001
spl 2.21.001
gsm 0.2.07.10
os 2.21.4.1
so just to clarify, I think there needs to be a tiny amount of power the the device to power it enough to recognise the charger is plugged in
i have 2 batteries with 0% energy - none will charge. The 3rd battery charges fine if more then 1% is left before I stick the charger in
thanks
Actually my boss had the same problem with his 8125. He was running wi-fi & music and it killed the battery all the way dead. I don't think there's a fix. He had to buy a new battery.
Read this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1206238&postcount=9
Looks like mfrazzz has the answer!
wow, ok i am a nuby and you might not like the solution but, every time my battery runs out completely and i cant charge it, disconnect the charger trust me on this one, lick the top of the charger connect it back and at first it will show a red light leave it there for about 4 minutes, then disconnect it and connect it back and your battery will start chargin again. trust me on this one ive done it like 4 times.
mafioso617 said:
wow, ok i am a nuby and you might not like the solution but, every time my battery runs out completely and i cant charge it, disconnect the charger trust me on this one, lick the top of the charger connect it back and at first it will show a red light leave it there for about 4 minutes, then disconnect it and connect it back and your battery will start chargin again. trust me on this one ive done it like 4 times.
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Dude!! I just have to ask...
HOW DID YOU FIGURE THAT OUT??? I mean, where you just sitting around thinking... Hmmm... I think I'll lick the top and stick it in.. hummm... I guess I'll leave it in for about 2 min... no... 3 min... oooo I think 4 min would be perfect.. then I'll unplug it and ummm... plug it back in!! Oh yeah!! That will do it!!!
Just kidding around!!!
wow, amazing stuff thanks
can i get an external charger/docker for the batteries?
do ALL these devices have the same problem or just the newer ones? my old one didnt do it (unless it still had some power in it)
Thanks
There is both a battery charger that you stick your battery in and a cradle that charges both your Wizard and also has a slot for a second battery. I couldn't find the single battery charger, but the dock can be found by searching for 8125 twin cradle.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Twin-Desktop-Cr...ryZ15037QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
mfrazzz said:
Read this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1206238&postcount=9
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hi mate,
my battery does not have any markings to say + and -
do you know which is which?
thanks
m2rvh said:
my battery does not have any markings to say + and -
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Ok, on my 8125 with the battery oriented exactly how it sits in the phone, the + is the top most contact and the - is the bottom most contact.
Here's a pic of a battery I found and you can just make out the + (red) / - (black) on the pic.
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im not trying to ruin this great party, but were you trying to charge your MDA with the USB cord after you drained it? cuz u have to charge by A/C....
ohh and that licking thing....it works with AA batteries, 'cept you put them under your armpits for a few minutes

Prophet dead

Hi,
I forgot my prophet @ home, turned on, and i travelled for one month. When i returned, is completly dead.
Any sugestions?
Thanks
Plug it in to the wall, ignore the lack of red light, leave for at least 24 hours. Pray.
or borrow another battery from somewhere, try with that.
Salahudeen said:
Hi,
I forgot my prophet @ home, turned on, and i travelled for one month. When i returned, is completly dead.
Any sugestions?
Thanks
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Well... If nothing else help, take out battery from prophet,
find what is + and what is -, use some DC voltage 8-12V
DIRECTLY + from DC supply to + battery, - to -. Keep like this for
15-20 seconds then put battery back to prophet.
Then connect to charger.
This is not so good to do with battery often but up to now
similar things like yours happened to me few times with other stuff:
lap tops, mobile phones, GPS and so on. Nothing else helped except
"shock" to the battery. Even this type of battery will survive without any damage.
Just to remind you (and others): DO NOT DO THIS OFTEN and
NOT LONGER THAN 30 seconds.
yes ... this work ... but please ... do not use more then 5V for less secounds!
12v is to high for a 3,7 cell :-> they are built for only 4,1v maximum voltage!
note! this issue can bring your lipo to explode/blast! the best way to bring a undervoltages lipo to work, is to use a lipo charger. only with a powersupply without amper limiter is a very dangerous way! it can damage your fingers if you hold it!
i have blast some cells for 1 year ago and they work very well for newyear!
Do u guys think It will work here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1527059#post1527059
If u look in the POST after all things going against me..
yesterday THE NEO GAVE ME RED LED
Do u recommend me to use the above steps of charging with removing the batt
Waiting for the reply.
THX
crest_delta said:
Do u recommend me to use the above steps of charging with removing the batt
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Well... At least you could try, there is nothing to lose.
About voltage: yes battery is 3.7V and yes it is not recommended to connect anything directly. But... This "trick" helped me so many times. And for short time, beleive me, you could connect up to 12V. But be carefully. If you experience any abnormal heat of the battery just stop. But, again, nothing bad will happened for 15, 20 seconds. And just to remind you: CONNECT TO THE BATTERY WHEN BATTERY IS OUT OF PROPHET. DO NOT CONNECT ANYTHING TO THE PROPHET OR BATTERY CONNTACTS ON THE PROPHET.
zocha007 said:
Well... At least you could try, there is nothing to lose.
CONNECT TO THE BATTERY WHEN BATTERY IS OUT OF PROPHET. DO NOT CONNECT ANYTHING TO THE PROPHET OR BATTERY CONNTACTS ON THE PROPHET.
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Hey THX bro,
Now how will i figure out which is the +ve in the batt and -ve in the batt..
So I understand positive of an source of 3.7v goes to +ve of the battery and negative of the source goes to -ve RIGHT
Also yesterday I noted another thing .
Even If I remove the batt and connect the wall charger the NEO still shows a red light.
Do u think this is normal..(can u try this like just remove the batt and put the to NEO to wall charger)
even after installing the batt the NEO just shows red light and it does not get heated at all.
THANK YOU. it just worked with me, for the past week my phone was dead and i lost my charger, i just did it your way with...
5V, 6W adapter, it worked (1st time i did it for 15 secs, didnt work, 2nd time for 25 secs )
thnx again
Can anyone tells me where is the +ve & -ve on the battery, There are 6 pads on the battery
sean818 said:
Can anyone tells me where is the +ve & -ve on the battery, There are 6 pads on the battery
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well you just have to use an electrical "tester" if you dont know how to you can bring your battery to an electrician and let him figure out what is + and - for you ( be sure to mark it out )
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sean818 said:
Can anyone tells me where is the +ve & -ve on the battery, There are 6 pads on the battery
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hi there...
there is another way instead of shocking ur battery with 12v.
u can use Dekstop chargers
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now plug ur battery in this charger for 45 minuts not even a single minut up...or it will blown ur battery.after this insert ur battery in ur htc prophet and turn it on...it will power ups...thank u

Deluxe USB Desktop Cradle

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eXpansys Deluxe USB Desktop Cradle for HTC Touch Pro.
You can now use your 220v adapter and sync your pro at the same time
Haanyone found a cradel that can charge, sync and also charge a second battery. This is what's missing from the Touch pro range of accessories.
Has anyone found a cradel that can charge, sync and also charge a second battery. This is what's missing from the Touch pro range of accessories.
The above cradle can do all that, im not sure where it charges the second battery but expansys says it can
From the picture looks like the back is some form of lid, perhaps there is a battery slot under there
Steve
I've pre-orderd the cradle. I will let you know of it can charged a second battery.
Just checked with Expansys, and it is pre-order only. they expect the cradle to be in stock by the end of september. And i can confirm that it does have a second battery chargering slot.
Rich
I will definately pick one of these up. Im wondering if it is waise to wait until a week or 2 after it comes out for a proce drop or some aftermarket ones?
Did anyone get a random offer for this from expansys? Seems legit but its some sales rep writing you personally tellin gyou to order from him. Seems fishy
Did anyone already recieve one of those?
Jorlin said:
Did anyone already recieve one of those?
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One of those what?
The cradle is still on back order,a nd no i have not had a sales rep call me.
Just found this on ebay.
Sync cradle, with 240 vac adapter, and free screen protector and spare stylus. BARGIN!!!
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HTC-Touch-Pro...NameZWD2VQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em122
Kidigi Deluxe Desktop Cradle
Kidigi Deluxe Desktop Cradle
Just ordered my TouchPro craddle from http://www.devicewire.com
They had the craddle in stock and kindly threw in a couple of complimentary HTC lanyards. The price was £35.94 including UK 17.5% VAT & £6.77 next day shipping. This was a little cheaper than Expansys where the total cost would have been £38.47
Regards,
J
It dosent charge a second battery... it looks smart but it dosent charge a second... waste of a good opertunity... rather annoying...
I suppose (for me anyway) it is a good addition to my desk as when I pick up the device to make a call I dont now get the disconnection sound notice in my other ear from the sennheiser mono head set that I use for my skype to landline calls... if that dosent make sense call me on skype (justin0679) & I will gladly explain in more detail...
Regards,
J
PS. I am very happy with DEVICEWIRE - a helpful supplier
Has anyone found a cradle that works with the Sprint Touch Pro?
I have got one from Expansys.
It can charge your pro & your sencondary battery.
the 2nd battery can put under the lid.
it also can plug in a 3.5mm earphone, so when you charge your cellphone, you can listen to the music at the same time.
and the led show you whether they're fully charged.
very good device, but a little bigger than i think.
that's all.
Anyone tested this cradle with a TV-out cable?
seeker-lover said:
I have got one from Expansys.
It can charge your pro & your sencondary battery.
the 2nd battery can put under the lid.
it also can plug in a 3.5mm earphone, so when you charge your cellphone, you can listen to the music at the same time.
and the led show you whether they're fully charged.
very good device, but a little bigger than i think.
that's all.
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Hi seeker-lover,
Perhaps there are different types. Would you be so kind as to reply with a link pointing at the spec of your craddle. Below points at the unit I bought from DeviceWire.
http://www.devicewire.co.uk/official-htc-desktop-cradle
Thanks,
J
seeker-lover said:
I have got one from Expansys.
It can charge your pro & your sencondary battery.
the 2nd battery can put under the lid.
it also can plug in a 3.5mm earphone, so when you charge your cellphone, you can listen to the music at the same time.
and the led show you whether they're fully charged.
very good device, but a little bigger than i think.
that's all.
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Hi,
Expansys sell both an official HTC cradle and their own brand version. The official HTC cradle "CR G300" cannot charge a second battery. It does have a 3.5mm stereo jack for plugging in head phones or connecting to your amp to play music from the handset. It is a tidy looking piece of kit albeit prone to finger print marks.
The expansys TP cradle can charge a second battery as you point out. You can find non oe TP cradles on ebay which sell for a lot less that the expansys asking price for its own brand version.
Rgs,
J

Brand new Galaxy SII, stuck on "empty battery screen"

Hello,
Just got my SGS2, I played with it for about 10 minutes and the battery died.
I figured it would because it was new and I hadnt charged it yet, so no big deal.
Then I plug it in.
For the last 45 minutes, it has been flashing this screen then going black.
I can't do anything
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What do I do?
Thanks for any help.
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Return it and get it replaced.
There is literally no fix for this?
mikesaint27 said:
There is literally no fix for this?
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I wouldn't know, but no new phone is supposed to act like that.
Have you tried pulling the battery or booting into recovery? Also try another usb cable or wall outlet, maybe it's not getting a charge. Make sure the usb port is clean. I'm sorry but I don't have a definitive solution.
I had the same issue after 2 weeks of use when i was on a business trip!!!. I left the phone plugged in overnight and it charged. As far as i remember id displayed full charge next day but actually it was not fully charged (i guess it was about 20%). So after a couple of recharge cycles it worked ok.
rah77az said:
I had the same issue after 2 weeks of use when i was on a business trip!!!. I left the phone plugged in overnight and it charged. As far as i remember id displayed full charge next day but actually it was not fully charged (i guess it was about 20%). So after a couple of recharge cycles it worked ok.
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I just had this happen today on my ATT Galaxy S II. But what happened was I let the battery almost drain and I had a brand new oem battery that I had charging over night. So with the old battery in I rebooted into recovery wiped battery stats and powered off. I then put the new battery in and when I plugged it in it was stuck at this screen. It seems to be charging though and how you can bypass it is unplug it and just hold the power button down for like 10 seconds it will reboot.
But the question is.. will it go back to normal and show that it's actually charging for everyone? or did some get stuck for good? Since the thread is old I'm sure you guys have either gotten yours replaced or after a while it just started working normally again. So I'm curious on how to fix it. It's happening with both batteries on this phone now but work fine in another phone
May be let it charge and then calibrate your battery
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Had the exact same issue when I bought mine... Turned out I had not plugged the battery correctly. Just try removing the battery and put it back.
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I got it working again. I think thee might be a bug with CWM or CM when you wipe battery stats/recreates them. I restored to the bone stock rom and the icon started animating again. I restored CM 7 which was the version I wiped the bat stats and it stopped working again. I then just reflashed CM on top and it started working again go figure Thanks guys
I had faced that problem too.Just try plugging out and in the battery and start the phone.Make sure the battery is fixed into it's place.If it is still not working,continue the plug-out and in the battery and start the phone again.Try it for several times.It will work.When i was in that situation,i thought mine was BRICK.Hopefully replugging the battery fixed this problem.
Another situation is when i plug in a fully charged battery,it only shows 60 percent after booting.After replugging the battery,it just got right back to 99.
Good stuff - when I bought my phone, the first charge took so long.
Is it true that the wall charger charges the phone faster than the USB charger? (just something I have noticed).
Thanks

[Q] Wireless Charging Problem

I bought a generic QI charger at DX and it worked well... once. The next day the phone was not recognizing the charger.
I really think that's a software issue because I tried a hard reset by flashing the original 4.4.2 stock rom image. it worked once and it stopped again. Then, I tried flashing stock again but it didn't work. Also, the charger seems to recognize that there is a device with wireless charging capacities but it turns off after 2 seconds.
Is there an activity or something that makes the system recognize the charger and start in fact charging? I searched a little bit but I can't find someone with the same issue
Have you moved the phone around on the charger? I have found out that the phone qi receiver is low on the phone and the transmitter is usually in the middle of the charger. That will give you the on/off back and forth.
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BigCrisco39 said:
Have you moved the phone around on the charger? I have found out that the phone qi receiver is low on the phone and the transmitter is usually in the middle of the charger. That will give you the on/off back and forth.
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Yes. I also searched the exact spot where the coil is located, it can't be. also, the charger recognizes de device
i had the same issue, it would detect then it would lose its connection, it comes down the the quality of charger, the magnetic pull is weak so it may drop after a few seconds, i ended up getting a better one,i dont exactly know why it droped even when the phone has not moved,
is your charger a small disc or a flat rectangle larger than the phone?
republicano said:
i had the same issue, it would detect then it would lose its connection, it comes down the the quality of charger, the magnetic pull is weak so it may drop after a few seconds, i ended up getting a better one,i dont exactly know why it droped even when the phone has not moved,
is your charger a small disc or a flat rectangle larger than the phone?
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yeah, could be. I don't know, it's just weird that it worked once. It's a flat rectangle.
DTHayakawa said:
yeah, could be. I don't know, it's just weird that it worked once. It's a flat rectangle.
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I noticed it has to be on perfectly, I have a small one and I'm noticing its difficult to get it to charge, it seems to tickle 90% of the time I'm thinking of opening it and do a few tests,
On mine it states, if the power is irregular the charger will disconnect and stop, intermittent etc, the light will display that, if the charger is not strong enough then It can do that aswell.
My qi is 1500mah output while my charger is 1200mah and its efficiency is 75%, so at 900mah its still fine for the nexus, I will test with a 2amp charger and hope it dosnt just make it hotter
Its anoying that this has not be a substitute to connecting it directly.
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"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
This is how mine is positioned. The SIM card slot on the side is aligned with the charger coil on the phone, so you can use it as reference. Also make sure you're using a charger with not less than 2000 mA. Also try a different phone to test the charger if you can, just to rule out your phone as the problem. Good luck
republicano said:
I have a small one
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