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Hi ,
just gone from a p910i to an xdaIIi .
Whats the best place to get free software for the xda , games or anything at all really.
Is there another net broswer such as opera ? the net seems to be alot slower than the p910i was.....
I miss also being able to drag and drop things into the phone.... or am i missing something else... ?
any other tips for me .
cheers all.
Freeware
Hello, this is the ppc freeware sit that i used to visit, I short from most: www.pdagold.com, www.freewareppc.com, www.pocketpcfreeware.com
I download so... many apps from there. for net-brow i used PIEPlus, coz opera didn't release for WM , Hope that will help you a little... :wink:
if you by drag'n'drop mean from your pc to your device then use explore device in activesync
ah.... thanks.. didnt realise there was an explore... cheers
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Sorry may be a little late, but have you try NetFront 3.2?
it faster and i think best web browser ever....
anyone know whether MS Voice Command can work on XDA IIi ?
version 1.1 hang when running after installed.
maybe voice commander 1.5 fix this ?
it should be compatible with all 2003 devices
Gforceuk said:
Is there another net broswer such as opera ? the net seems to be alot slower than the p910i was.....
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Opera have no intention on writing a browser for Windows Pocket PC.
They will however be relasing a version for Windows Mobile 2005, as the OS will be the same on both Pocket PC and Smartphone, so giving a sizable target market.
but the java opera version works ok on pocketpc's
http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/index.php?action=expand,42332
but it being a java miplet would prob mean it's not the fastest thing
I started yesterday working with my new i-mate Jasjar, and, already, I am lost in so many bugs and bad issues.
1- ActiveSync 4 does not support backup/restore of the device. I know this is a "known" issue, but it is a real bad one!
2- Some programs cannot be installed at all, like SPB PocketPlus. On another hand, all task switchers (and program closers) make problems, and end up by soft resetting the device.
3- A big problem: I cannot uninstall any of the programs I installed, whether on the main memory or the storage card, whether by using ActiveSync (from the desktop), or Remove Programs (in Settings) or any third party software, like SKTools!
4- Synchronizing through ActiveSync is not always straight forward. Sometimes the device is not recognized, or, when recognized, synchronize cannot start, or, when it does start, it never ends.
Did any of you experience any of these problems?
Any suggestions, or we have to wait for a ROM upgrade ?
Spb pocketplus may not be supported by wm05?.Perhaps the next release will work though as i'm getting either the wizard or universal so I hope it does!
personally i wouldnt expect software that worked fine on windows 3.1 to work just as fine on xp.
bugs are ok, it makes the patches more anticipated, and of course, with out this kind of feedback sofware houses wouldn't always reveal the issues before software is released.
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I started yesterday working with my new i-mate Jasjar, and, already, I am lost in so many bugs and bad issues.
1- ActiveSync 4 does not support backup/restore of the device. I know this is a "known" issue, but it is a real bad one!
2- Some programs cannot be installed at all, like SPB PocketPlus. On another hand, all task switchers (and program closers) make problems, and end up by soft resetting the device.
3- A big problem: I cannot uninstall any of the programs I installed, whether on the main memory or the storage card, whether by using ActiveSync (from the desktop), or Remove Programs (in Settings) or any third party software, like SKTools!
4- Synchronizing through ActiveSync is not always straight forward. Sometimes the device is not recognized, or, when recognized, synchronize cannot start, or, when it does start, it never ends.
Did any of you experience any of these problems?
Any suggestions, or we have to wait for a ROM upgrade ?
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dude all of these are software (activesync and windows 5 related) none are related to jasjar...the jasjar is the most stable imate device EVER
yes there are issues between the new active sync and windows and firewall and the antivirus that you run but these are Microsofts faults not jasjars...
to answer your questions
1) this is a bummer.. i really wish they had given the option of backing up device..anywyas thats why you have ppc softwares that do backup..the one working on wm5 is sunnysoft backup..
2)most of the softwares lag behind.. wm5 is out but not all software makers have updated their products..NOTE AGAIN THIS IS NOT JASJARS FAULT..its YOURs you can wait 6 more months by then spbsoftware should have a pocketplus that works on wm5
3)dude again old applications like sktools dont work on wm5... if you want you can use pocket mechanic and memmaid ..they work fine.. for task manager i use dinarsoft handy sweitcher..not only its an excellent application but it works on wm5 aswelll...
4)you have your firewall and antivirus software and to blame for this...not jasjar..for me i had to FORMAT my laptop and install activesync before i turned on firewall and installed an antivirus program...only then did active sync work..and its flawless now.. oen word my personal experience trendmicro2002 doesnt work with AS however 2005 version of pcillin works with its personal firewall set to off...
hope i cleared up a few misconceptions for you
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Well,
1) That is annoying. I hadn't noticed that, but I'm sure it'll be addressed in future...
2) As zohaer21 says, that's purely because we have the latest, greatest bleeding edge technology, and the software developers have yet to catch up. (In the meantime, HandySwitcher is working perfectly on my device, no bugs, no crashes, just what it's meant to do!)
3) Have you tried installing anything from a .cab file to see if you still have a problem uninstalling? I'd guess ActiveSync is probably your problem...
4) Can't really help there...I'd suggest removing Activesync completely from your PC and installing it again from scratch. Personally I'm not using the bundled version of ActiveSync (4.1?) because I had an old 4.0.??? already but I don't think I've heard of anyone else with that issue yet so I'd assume it's a problem with your PC installation?
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personally i wouldnt expect software that worked fine on windows 3.1 to work just as fine on xp.
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no, but you'd expect software that worked on windows 2000 to work on XP. Why compare something with an 11 year gap to something with a 2 year gap?
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Carnivor said:
personally i wouldnt expect software that worked fine on windows 3.1 to work just as fine on xp.
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no, but you'd expect software that worked on windows 2000 to work on XP. Why compare something with an 11 year gap to something with a 2 year gap?
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True, but MS changed WM5 significantly from WM2003, many more changes than Windows 2000 -> Windows XP. The biggest changes were (1) persistent storage and new memory handling and (2) WM5's compatibility with MS Smartphone apps. I am not surprised a good number of apps aren't working.
By the way, SPB's PocketPlus looks like it works with WM5 because they have screen shots on their web site of it running on a Windows Mobile 5 OS. But it may just not be compatible with the JasJar yet.
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no, but you'd expect software that worked on windows 2000 to work on XP. Why compare something with an 11 year gap to something with a 2 year gap?
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It does not depend on that gap but on what they did durring that gap. If you do not change structural things, backwards compatibility can last a long time.
Actually the gap between WM2003SE and WM5 is quite large for some software developers. Notably some applications that synchronise databases (TimeTTRacker, Commontime mNotes) have to be rewritten from the ground up, even though we are only talking about a 1 year gap. Microsoft did change some crucial things, even if it does not show at first glance.
sorry, my post came across a bit bolshy. It wasn't intended.
I meant that developers would hope that they wouldn't have to re-write their apps every few years. I like the changes, because it adds more structure and makes it more of a uniform platform, but we've got to hope that they don't change these very often.
It would help if MS supplied the emulators for WM5 free of charge. (I'm yet to find any)
No worries
WM 5.0 SDK including emulator for PPC
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...F2-F524-4EC5-9155-717CBE5D25ED&displaylang=en
WM 5.0 SDK including emulator for Smartphone
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...CB-738A-4B97-8910-5CD29AB5F8D9&displaylang=en
SPB Pocket Plus version 3 works just fine on an i-Mate JasJar. Older versions of Pocket Plus will not work on WM5 devices of any kind, so upgrade to Version 3 and you can install it on your jasJar. I'm running it on mine.
hey mat1t dont worry about it,
just dont get put deisel in a petrol car, my analogy of the issues
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SPB Pocket Plus version 3 works just fine on an i-Mate JasJar. Older versions of Pocket Plus will not work on WM5 devices of any kind, so upgrade to Version 3 and you can install it on your jasJar. I'm running it on mine.
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Correct!
It does work under WM5.0 Just make sure you are on version 3
If you are on Version 3 and still refuses to install, copy the CAB file over the device and execute/install from there.
DaleReeck said:
mat1t said:
Carnivor said:
By the way, SPB's PocketPlus looks like it works with WM5 because they have screen shots on their web site of it running on a Windows Mobile 5 OS. But it may just not be compatible with the JasJar yet.
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hi
it works but it makes it really slow (inlcuding the start up if you use the quick launch menu whatever)..i guess you can say its not wm5 optimized as yet
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SPB Pocket plus does install and work. I had to do a hard reset after I initially used my Jasjar and everything worked right. Like email accounts etc. What I would like to see is a program like gb tweak that keeps the gprs allways alive. But so for there is nothing out there. NO problems with my JasJar at all.
Mike
@Tekflow
Since you got a Jasjar, plz can you upload for us the Arabizer package from the Extended_Rom ?
Click Here! This is how they managed to copy it!
Thank you.
I have the file for you but cannot upload it on the server...
Please send me a PM and I will tell you where to donwload them.
Cheers
Daimaou said:
I have the file for you but cannot upload it on the server...
Please send me a PM and I will tell you where to donwload them.
Cheers
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Pm Sent
Just replied, and if someone can tell me why I cannot UL files on the server it would help me
Cheers
You have to use username:xdaupload password:xda to be able to upload
ftp://xdaupload:[email protected]
I wanna know if anybody know any applications or software that work's or is compatible windows Mobile 5 on the Wizard ?
Am sure the Java Games or apps should work.
Any one tried any that do ?
Tried to install the latest versions of Pocket Informant and SPB Pocket Plus on my I-mate K-Jam but neither worked. Still waiting for replies from tech support departments, will post outcome when I know more.
Thanks for Reply
As soon as i get mine in a few days I will be testing it to the full. I will be downloading and installing many java games and apps and trying anything i get my hands on, on it. Tomtom Mobile 5 for definate !
I am sure many other Helpful people out there will be too, so Keep us posted All !!
Thanks to all those that do !!
Watch this Space !!
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Tried to install the latest versions of Pocket Informant and SPB Pocket Plus on my I-mate K-Jam but neither worked. Still waiting for replies from tech support departments, will post outcome when I know more.
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SPB Pocket Plus works flawlessly in my BlueAngel WM5 machine, however, I feel that SPB P+ slowed down my device so I decided to use combination of iLauncher v2.2 (http://www.sbsh.net) and Wisbar Advance 2.4.1.9 (http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com) which runs awesome (much faster than using SPB Pocket Plus)
As for pocket informant, you need to download WM5 version from here:
http://download.pocketinformant.com/FTF/PI_Public_Build/
I hope this helps
there is a big list of progs that are known to work/not work in the himalaya forum.
what i dont understand though is if the program is known to work ok on wk2k5 himalaya, will the same prog work on a k-jam which has a different kind of CPU? or is it all like PC's now where the make of the cpu doesnt really matter and that windows takes care of all that kind of stuff.
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Thanks for Reply
As soon as i get mine in a few days I will be testing it to the full. I will be downloading and installing many java games and apps and trying anything i get my hands on, on it. Tomtom Mobile 5 for definate !
I am sure many other Helpful people out there will be too, so Keep us posted All !!
Thanks to all those that do !!
Watch this Space !!
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there is already a warning that tomtom 5 will not install properly through activesync 4, (files have to be transfered without activesync 4) this may also be why some other programs will seem to be incompatable with wm5?
so if you can transfer the program eg by card reader that you want to test, then install it, you may get better results.
mine should be arriving tomorrow
changing the subject slightly, ordered mine from http://www.smartdevicesdirect.com/index.php
very happy with the service.
www.wm5fixsite.com
Post your results, share with the world.
candrat said:
the_agent said:
Tried to install the latest versions of Pocket Informant and SPB Pocket Plus on my I-mate K-Jam but neither worked. Still waiting for replies from tech support departments, will post outcome when I know more.
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SPB Pocket Plus works flawlessly in my BlueAngel WM5 machine, however, I feel that SPB P+ slowed down my device so I decided to use combination of iLauncher v2.2 (http://www.sbsh.net) and Wisbar Advance 2.4.1.9 (http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com) which runs awesome (much faster than using SPB Pocket Plus)
As for pocket informant, you need to download WM5 version from here:
http://download.pocketinformant.com/FTF/PI_Public_Build/
I hope this helps
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while i am waiting for my k-jam i thought i would try wisbar on my qtek s110 to see what it was like, i just want to point out that if i try to exit from wisbar the pda locks up and needs a soft reset?
not bothered but still may happen with k-jam as well
Software list compatible with win mobile 5 !!
check out his list i post :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=30256
I have used pcoket PC devices from the Philip Velo1 and even before that. I have never faced memory loss like with the K-Jam. The device slows down with time but when I check the running programs list I see a full page list. As soon as I close them all the device performs well again.
Is there anyway of automatically clearing memory and closing running programs with the K-Jam (WM5) after say 2 or more programs running?
Hi.
What you need is to read http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=29863
and then install PocketPlus 3.0.1 . Problem solved
if you want to go fastter then read
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=30011
and do what it say's .
but like everything in life do yer research before you take a risk .
I did, and the results were great . 200% improvement in performance and useability.
Thanks for the response. By the way I have already removed the Antivirus software.
But how does the PocketPlus help?
By the way I have tried the latest PocketPlus and it still crushed my k-Jam on reset.
alman said:
Thanks for the response. By the way I have already removed the Antivirus software.
But how does the PocketPlus help?
By the way I have tried the latest PocketPlus and it still crushed my k-Jam on reset.
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Check to make sure you have version 3.0.3 of PocketPlus as my K-JAM crashed every time with 3.0.1. It wasnt until i downloaded 3.0.3 that i was able to boot normally. You could also disable the safe mode feature in Pocket Plus options before you reset which fixes the boot problem with earlier 3.x releases.
EDIT: SPB Software now has a note on the PocketPlus version history informing that the Wizard specific issues with safe mode have been fixed as of v3.0.4.
http://spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/pocketplus/history.html?en
Pocket Plus has a feature where you can change the behaviour of the close button [X] so it can close apps instead of minimise or even popup a menu with more options. Have a search of the forum here, and over at www.modaco.com as there is heaps of info about Pocket Plus and other options for closing / minimising apps (some of them are even free).
Regards,
Chris
SPB Pocket Plus !!
can you provide me a link where to freely download Pocket Plus 3.0.3 or 3.0.4 ??? i'd appreciate it ...
thanx in advance.
If you're buying PocketPlus just for the task/memory manager, have a look at the many free alternatives, e.g. WisBar Advance, VBar, MagicButton, Pocket Nav, GSPocketMagic etc etc. Several (e.g. MagicButton, GSPocketMagic) allow you to set exception lists so you get to choose what gets automatically closed instead of minimized.
That's the best way with the Wizard, as some apps need to be kept in memory due to the slow loading times from ROM, e.g. Calendar, Contacts and Messaging. For URLs, Google is your friend.
I actually prefer managing what's running in the memory manually. gives me a feeling of control. I usually leave some of the frequent apps running. stuff like calendar, phone, activesync, IE.
I require my VARIO to have the option to boot in SafeMode. So far I've done this with Spb Pocket Plus - but since it is such a memory hog I want to get rid of it.
So far I only found two tools that offer SafeMode:
Spb Pocket Plus ( which I want to get rid of )
mCubeSafeMode or SafeMode 1.02 ( not WM5 compatible, installed fine but did not work for me )
So what other choices do I have? What other ( hopefully tiny tool ) will let me enter safemode at boot time?
Help is appreciated. Best regards.
Slightly off topic, but do all of these programs provide the same form of "safe mode"? And if so, what does that consist of? Safe Mode is not an OS feature, so I'm curious what cross over there is.
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Sometimes programs are unable to be un-installed because some parts are loaded, or maybe a newly installed program makes trouble.
So you simply enter SafeMode and are then able to un-install these "troublemakers". Since I try out alot of stuff I don't want to miss this great feature.
I'm not sure, but what I've noticed from Spb's safemode, it disables added today screen items and startup processes. There may be more that it does too.
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I'm not sure, but what I've noticed from Spb's safemode, it disables added today screen items and startup processes. There may be more that it does too.
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Yep, thats what it does. So any chances that another program will do this?
There's a buzzdev thread about this. Someone posted a file in the last post. I didn't try it out because I have that feature with pocket plus, but you may want to try it.
http://buzzdev.net/index.php?option=com_simpleboard&Itemid=59&func=view&id=15076&catid=26
If you use memmaid and look at services these 'programs' are moved to the top of the service order list, (therefore they are the first things the OS runs)... they basically have a small gui that says "you want to run safe mode" and if you say yes... they stop all the other services from starting, stop STARTUP items from running, and don't let any of the dlls load for today plugins.
The problem with mCubeSafeMode on WM5 is that services have to be certified signed to run in WM5, so even though it installs, its not allowed to run at boot time. I would have thought though that the un-certified builds on buzz/xda-dev would get around that?
I have a Jam now, no WM5 for me
Yep mCubeSafeMode would be great if it would only work with WM5 - but so far only Pocket Plus is able to do a SafeBoot on WM5 that I am aware of. I hoped I only missed another tool, but sad to say it seems to the only working version for WM5
SPB Pocket Plus
pocket plus has the option of booting in safe mode also
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I know! Thats what I said in my first posting - but I want to get RID OF POCKET PLUS - that is the whole reason for this thread!
DreamBoxer: Are you running a certification-free WM5 ROM though? I actually talked to the mCubeSafe author about this, and the belief is services might actually need a Microsoft certificate, but he wasn't sure.... if it doesn't work with a cert-free ROM then I guess he was correct...
I had the same problem when I had a WM5 device I despirately wanted to NOT run SPB (too much bloat) but ultimately its the only one that had it...
You could install SPB and hunt around with memmaid and the registry to try and figure out how to just set the services only and remove everything else. You would have to install the service program, (maybe using memmaid) and move it up the service list to be first... in theory it should be do-able...
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I know! Thats what I said in my first posting - but I want to get RID OF POCKET PLUS - that is the whole reason for this thread!
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sorry i did not read the whole statments.