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Hello:
I can dial into my company network using my XDA and dialup, ok. Does anyone know how I can receive my corporate emails? I suspect I need some software for the XDA which can access MS-exchange servers, is there any such out there?
thanks
corporate mail
all i can tell you is the way we do it at our company. exchange has web access so to access our corporate mail the address would be
http://mailserver.*****.**.uk
type in your login and password and bob's your auntie.
no special software required.
ian
Hmmm. I gave it a try, no luck. maybe it is blocked by our firewall. :-(
POP server
I can do my corporate e-mails trough a pop3 server, and with the nice patch I can do my private e-mails trough a hotmail http account.
works perfect
So check if you have a pop3 mailserver account.
Similarly I check my corporate Exchange server with Pocket Outlook using IMAP4 (can get folders other than Inbox). I also get my Yahoo email using POP3.
Hmm - no idea how to use IMAP4 or how to get them through e pop3 server.
I don't know much about how mail works, i just usually collect it and send it. details on how to set these two possible solutions would be most welcome.
Icarusbop
Why don't you ask the IT dept ?
At my work place, I can access email remotely though the web interface of Exchange / Outlook. I still have to be connected the RAS service here though as the server is not advertised on the internet.
Rob.
Hmmm
the problem with that is two things...
the XDA is not a company issue thing, so they will probably not like me doing this.
Our it dept is ridiculously crap.
Icarusbop
Icarusbop are you useing vodaphone on your xda ii
Yes, I am using vodafone. I have a company mobile, calls are paid for by company, so I obviously wanted to use the voda card in my XDA II
if you got an exchange server, you can add activesync and outlook mobile access with server 2003 and get your email auto updated thru text messaging. I have the whole set up hosted out of my apartment
Outlook is officialy not supportet at mail2web live i think, but is there a way to use your desktop outlook with the free service?
currently i sync my Wizard with my Outlook and the Exchange Service, so i have all things synced between outlook and exchange indirectly, but a direct sync would be better.
Yeah, I've tried messing about with Outlook to get it to connect to the exchange server, but no luck so far. If anybody knows a way, then please post it here!
I think the only way to "hack" the service for desktop outlook would be a OMA Plugin for outlook, to sync with the Server ActiveSync.
lutzs said:
I think the only way to "hack" the service for desktop outlook would be a OMA Plugin for outlook, to sync with the Server ActiveSync.
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Could you post any more info about this?
Ye please! would be very interrested in a solution
If you think it have such a tool you misunderstood.
There are only 2 open doors to mail2web: OWA (Outlook Web Access) and OMA (Outlook Mobile Access). We can forget OWA. OMA is for syncing PocketPCs (ActiveSync Server). So we need a plugin or tool for the desktop outlook, that make it syncing over OMA!
Is there any development in this area. I was looking to sync my web2mail with my Desktop outlook.? Is it possible at all?
Cheers
I am presently using mail2web live very successfully.
I have my comcast email forwarded to the mail2web email address and leave the messages on my comcast server to download later to outlook.
I put the mail2web server source settings into Active Sync. It somehow syncs these server settings to the pda and with my unlimited monthly cingular data plan, I get ALL of my email OTA downloaded to my PDAphone immediately as it arrives to comcast.
Works great.
Yeah, that is possible. I am getting my gmail OTA, which I have forwarded to mail2web. My question was about syncing mail2web with desktop outlook, not mobile outlook. The idea is, then I dont have to sync with PC using USB cable at all. I sync with mail2web OTA, and when I log on to outlook on my PC it will sync with mail2web. So, I dont need a physical connection between PC and handheld. :lol:
This works if you pay $1.99 to mail2web.
However I too would like a free version.
Is it $1.99 per month..?
Yes
http://services.mail2web.com/Personal/EnhancedEmail/
or something I am in the process of trying
getting ADSL with a static IP address / web address and using the OWA MS 2003 server settings, setting my PC as a server, so I can use the MSFP to directly sync in with my home PC ( I think you need XP Pro to do this though, not XP Home).
This will also allow me to VPN in and take anything from home out and about.
I should also be able to do this to e.g. play my music files from my PC on my device. Will let you know how this works.
Unfortunately I am not a software developer, but if any of you need an idea; do what I just said in a one off program that runs on any PC and cradled device - syncs 'em together via GPRS / wi-fi that would be nice.
Just to let you guys know that mail2web now offer a FREE MS Exchange based e-mail account called 'mail2web Live'. As standard you can use it with ActiveSync (...and direct push if you're using WM5).
You also get access to the usual Outlook Web Access (OWA) and Outlook Mobile Access (OMA).
I've been playing around with it for the last few days and I'm well impressed - so much so that I've upgraded to their 'personal exchange' plan - to my mind a bargain for a meagre $1.99 a month. This gets rid of the banner and google ads that do take up the best part of 1/2 of the screen in the free version as well as giving you a gig of space and a few other goodies.
Cheers,
Rik
Here's the cheap way of getting picking up emails on outlook and using direct push
Sign up for 2 email accounts, one mail2web account and another email account that uses pop3(or use an existing one).
Set up email forwarding from the pop3 account to mail2web.
Set up your outlook account to leave email on the server.
This way you get the best of both worlds.
Then set activesync to sync to both outlook and mail2web and get the emails from mail2web so thats it uses direct push.
One other thing you could do is to use an advert blocker (like adblock in firefox) this gets rid of the adverts as well.
hope that helps save some cash
thanks
wayne
Here's the cheap way of getting picking up emails on outlook and using direct push
Sign up for 2 email accounts, one mail2web account and another email account that uses pop3(or use an existing one).
Set up email forwarding from the pop3 account to mail2web.
Set up your outlook account to leave email on the server.
This way you get the best of both worlds.
Then set activesync to sync to both outlook and mail2web and get the emails from mail2web so thats it uses direct push.
One other thing you could do is to use an advert blocker (like adblock in firefox) this gets rid of the adverts as well.
hope that helps save some cash
thanks
wayne
As hedgehog1982 suggestes this is a pretty good option, especially if you have an e-mail address on your own domain. This does have a couple of drawbacks though...
(i)
When you send (or reply to) an e-mail it will come from the mail2web account and not your POP account. You can get around this by setting up both accounts on your XDA (i.e. ActiveSync for your mail2web account and SMTP to send from your own e-mail address) - however, you'll have to remember to send from the SMTP when you send and don't hit reply.
(ii)
You'll effectively get two coppies of your e-mails (one to mail2web on your XDA and one to your POP inbox) - so if you want to delete an e-mail for example you'll have to do it on both. The beauty of the ActiveSync setup is that both server and XDA sync, so if you delete/move/organise your e-mails/calendar/contacts/tasks on either, the other also updates.
There are companies out there that will give you a single (or more) Exchange account(s) on your own domain but this will cost you more - most start from about a fiver a month.
Any way to sync mail2web with Desktop outlook yet?
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When you send (or reply to) an e-mail it will come from the mail2web account and not your POP account. You can get around this by setting up both accounts on your XDA (i.e. ActiveSync for your mail2web account and SMTP to send from your own e-mail address) - however, you'll have to remember to send from the SMTP when you send and don't hit reply.
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Guys how do you set in your PPC "both accounts to send from your own email-address" ? My target is to get mails pushed from my corporate exchange server and to be able to reply also using my corporates email address. But our company doesn't allow any remote access to exchange (except VPN with my notebook and OWA).
The only workaround I found is to have redirect emails from exchange server to f.e. gmail, in gmail you can set an alternative email address you can send from (it will fake my [email protected] and send it "on behalf of xx"). This way I can receive and send my emails from my PDA and it looks quite well. But - with gmail I only can pull and not push.
So using mail2web.com I could push and reading your instruction how to set that SMTP in my PDA, it should also work to reply with my corporates address, but there is no possibility to set this you described...how did you do that?
I think what he means is to setup your exchange account as POP3/IMAP, but never use it to receive, only use it to send.
Example:
1. You have ActiveSync setup with mail2web (push), and you setup gmail to forward to this account based on filtering or direct forward.
2. You setup another account with the same details as your exchange server. Have this account setup so that it never downloads. Depending on your setup, you would need to setup either POP3 or IMAP. I would suggest IMAP.
3. When you want to reply to a message, don't hit reply from your 'Outlook Messages' (that's your push email). You would compose a message and use your corporate email servers outgoing SMTP to send it.
However, since you mentioned that exchange is closed except via VPN, it makes me think that they have also closed all other ports.
It might be possible for you to install a VPN client on your device and sync that way?
Anyone got any recommendations for push email providers. Or just names to compare.
So far I have tried:
4smartphone.net - good service but not cheap
mail2web.com - good and cheap
any other recommendations ?
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Anyone got any recommendations for push email providers. Or just names to compare.
So far I have tried:
4smartphone.net - good service but not cheap
mail2web.com - good and cheap
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From what I've gathered so far, go with one of those two.
or register your own domain and build your own exchange server, works fine
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or register your own domain and build your own exchange server, works fine
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Just like that?
If you would like to have direct push mail from Microsoft on your Universal, it can be done with MS Exchange server SP2
having Echange SP2 on your own (Hosted) server, and building your own certificate on this server (domain) which you later can import on your Universal, you can use Direct Push mail (Https) fron the Universal to your Echange server.
I'm using it,..and the mobile active sync is constantly keeping the GPRS HTTPS connection allive and is syncronising constantly my inbox (agenda, contacts, email and tasks) Not the same as blackberry, but only several seconds delay (depends on gprs network, umts will be faster)
Download the latest rom with the AKU2 feature pack from MS build in, install it on your device and you can use the Direct Push function
adonker said:
If you would like to have direct push mail from Microsoft on your Universal, it can be done with MS Exchange server SP2
having Echange SP2 on your own (Hosted) server, and building your own certificate on this server (domain) which you later can import on your Universal, you can use Direct Push mail (Https) fron the Universal to your Echange server.
I'm using it,..and the mobile active sync is constantly keeping the GPRS HTTPS connection allive and is syncronising constantly my inbox (agenda, contacts, email and tasks) Not the same as blackberry, but only several seconds delay (depends on gprs network, umts will be faster)
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Yes yes, I know all this... but you can get exactly the same thing for four pounds a month with 4smartphone.net and they take care of 90% of the hassle for you. Setting up an exchange server is beyond 95% of people with handhelds. And even then, I may be being charitable.
Even downloading a dodgy copy of Exchange via bittorrent is more hassle than getting 4smartphone.net to host it for you.
adonker said:
If you would like to have direct push mail from Microsoft on your Universal, it can be done with MS Exchange server SP2
having Echange SP2 on your own (Hosted) server, and building your own certificate on this server (domain) which you later can import on your Universal, you can use Direct Push mail (Https) fron the Universal to your Echange server.
I'm using it,..and the mobile active sync is constantly keeping the GPRS HTTPS connection allive and is syncronising constantly my inbox (agenda, contacts, email and tasks) Not the same as blackberry, but only several seconds delay (depends on gprs network, umts will be faster)
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I would rather look for a personal assistant at the cost of your solution
haha,....sorry. Im a system engineer.
I've been using mail2web with my XDA Exec for the last few days and it works really well. Pretty good for a free service!
Been using 4smartphone.net trial for a few days now... My Exec's mail keeps de-syncing with the Exchange server.
I figured that if I MOVE emails between folders a lot, I start getting ActiveSync problems with error code 0x80070008 and I can't sync anymore. After a soft reset, I can sync again, but the folders on my Exec are now out of sync with folders on the Exchange server. i.e. some mails that were moved are now in Inbox of Exchange, whereas they have been moved to another mail folder on my Exec.
Seems too unreliable for me :|
My take on 4smartphone.net is that its a bit more professional then mail2web. It also ensures that emails sent are stamped with the email address you want to use (i.e. the one fwded/pop3ed to 4smartphone).
mail2web is a little more DIY, however the FAQ is good.
Ultimately I have opted to use mail2web as its only $1.99 a month vs $3.99 a month for 4smartphone (also have to keep up my IGN subscription
rgds
I found 4smartphone.net quite reliable.
did you setup manually - ? I did, maybe the autosetup has an issue.
are you syncing over wifi ? this has to be done manually
have 4smartphone.net given any reason why folder moving should case a trouble ?
colonel said:
have 4smartphone.net given any reason why folder moving should case a trouble ?
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I haven't actually contacted them yet... I've been googling 0x80070008 and found it to be memory related issues on the device. I'm thinking memory leak leading to lack of memory on my device -> ActiveSync dies.
yeah, could be too many things running as well.
I haven't rebooted for 2 weeks now (since the new O2 update) - famous last words !
what is that aku2 thing and can I use push mail on WM2003se? thnx
no. u can use activesync over a GPRS/3G with wm 2003se. look at mail2web.com FAQs.
however this is not push, its periodic activesync.
push email is where your device gets email as soon as its delivered.
this means that you get the email straight away. the technical difference is that push (in WM5) is server driven and not device driven.
I presume you don't have a universal as they are all WM5.
rgds
colonel said:
the technical difference is that push (in WM5) is server driven and not device driven.
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I have a question: does this mean that you don't pay for the data required to send the e-mail to your device? The one thing that's held me back from diving into push e-mail so far is the worry of going over my data limit (5mb/month on O2 - I can't afford any extra...) and paying too much on my contract.
If MMS messages are free to receive, is it the same for push e-mail messages because the server is initiating the connection? Or do we still have to pay? If you could answer this for me I'd really appreciate it, so thanks in advance
Mach
You'd still have to pay.
thanks for answer colonel. I will look at mail2web.com.
Hello,
Just got my Cingular 8125 as I have a need to check email on the road. I will be using wifi for connectivity to the internet and hopefully to check email.
I'm very new to this and don't understand the concept of email to smartphones. I keep coming across the term push email when researching upgraded roms. I think I want it but I'm not sure what it is. I'm assuming it allows my phone to just get email without having to connect to GPRS or wifi. Sort of like text messages. But really I have no clue and don't know if I need exchange server or not.
Here is what I am looking for... I have about 5 different POP3 accounts for my own domain names. I would like to be able to check these 5 accounts from my phone. I would also like to check my gmail account. I did find some instructions for this on these forums. Ideally, they would just go to the phone as they arrive. Another option would be for me to manually check email occassionally throughout the day through GPRS or Wifi. Would I be able to receive a phone call if I'm downloading emails?
These email accounts are from my websites on shared servers with a hosting provider. I do not have an Exchange Server. Looked into a company called web2email but not sure if I need that either.
Basically, what is the best solution for me to get my emails in a quick and reliable manner. Also, if anyone has any advice on syncing with Outlook that would be great... for instance, if I check email with my phone, is it removed from the server so when I check on my laptop it will show no emails? Then when I sync, will the phone emails be added to my laptop? Vice versa?
Appreciate any advice you might have. I tried to search and couldn't really find anything. If you would rather post a link to another thread or site tutorial that would be fine as well.
Yes i think you guessed right, push email is email that is sent to your device as soon as it arrives to your email account, but you will need a push email account and your gprs will need to be on continously. Some have reported higher costs with push email as it has a higher data use the ordinary pop email. Choice is yours!
When you check emails with your phone, the email stays on the server, and you can set your laptop to do likewise under your pop email account settings.
Thank you. That makes sense.
I plan on getting an unlimited plan (either medianet or dataplan) so I don't think it would be a problem for GPRS to always stay on.
I read something about some setting that will default to wifi if available.
Sounds like this "push email" is exactly what I was looking for. And to think I almost got a Blackberry.
Thanks again.
The push e-mail system on Microsoft Windows Mobile devices requires an active cellular data connection. The device at periodic intervals issues a "heartbeat" to an Exchange server (belong to either your company, yourself, or an e-mail provider). The Exchange server checks the account, sees if you have new mail, and then pushes it back onto the device.
The battery drain is minimal compared to setting up Pocket Outlook to check for messages every X minutes, but it is slightly more than a true push system such as RIM's Blackberry devices. This is because RIM uses true push e-mail, where the network wakes up your device when you receive a new e-mail.
There's a free e-mail provider out there that supports Microsoft Exchange and Direct Push with ActiveSync. Check out the Mail2Web live service, at:
http://live.mail2web.com/
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The push e-mail system on Microsoft Windows Mobile devices requires an active cellular data connection. The device at periodic intervals issues a "heartbeat" to an Exchange server (belong to either your company, yourself, or an e-mail provider). The Exchange server checks the account, sees if you have new mail, and then pushes it back onto the device.
The battery drain is minimal compared to setting up Pocket Outlook to check for messages every X minutes, but it is slightly more than a true push system such as RIM's Blackberry devices. This is because RIM uses true push e-mail, where the network wakes up your device when you receive a new e-mail.
There's a free e-mail provider out there that supports Microsoft Exchange and Direct Push with ActiveSync. Check out the Mail2Web live service, at:
http://live.mail2web.com/
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So it sounds like I will need an exchange server which I don't have. I just have a standard POP3 account with my site hosting...
I like the push idea and will checkout mail2web. I will email them some questions as their site is somewhat confusing for me. It says the free account does not support POP3. I'm pretty sure I would need that. Their business accounts will work but I'm not sure if the pricing per user would allow me to use all 5 email accounts. That said though, if the free version won't work for me the paid accounts are very reasonably priced.
So can someone post a easy walkthru to getting functioning push on a 8125?
To anble Direct Push, you shd hv AKU2 ROm installed on yr device.Then u can very well use it...also you can visit www.mail2web.com for live mail..
Well, when you use a provider like Mail2Web you don't need to setup your own Exchange server, they let you use theirs. And unfortunately, Mail2Web's free live service which lets you use Direct Push doesn't let you use POP3. However, their Outlook Mobile Access is a web based e-mail system that is absolutely great, it mimics Microsoft Outlook's interface and for all intents and purposes eliminates the need for you to use POP3 to check e-mail from your account. When you sign up with them, your e-mail address is [email protected].
As you may have already noticed, for a fee you can upgrade to POP3 access and other e-mail solutions including using your own domain (such as [email protected]) but I have yet to find a need for this. I just forward all my e-mail accounts to my mail2Web account with one drawback: When people get my e-mail it says it's from [email protected].
But with 1 GB of free storage, and a 10 MB (if i remember correctly) message limit and free Direct Push, I'm not one to complain.
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So it sounds like I will need an exchange server which I don't have. I just have a standard POP3 account with my site hosting...
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Some hosting sites (running on Linux usually) will run something like Procmail that allows you to set up filtering and forwarding rules. You might be able to get your hosting POP3 accounts to forward copies of new mail to your mail2web account.
Alternatively, you could poll the POP3 accounts from your PC at home, and have an Inbox rule that forwards relevant (ie non junk/spam) to your mail2web account. That just means having your email client running all the time to do the forwarding...
Final thought is, as you said, to set up Exchange at home, poll your POP accounts (which I believe you can do with the version of Exchange in the Small Business Server) and then set up Push with your own server.
Regards,
Dox
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IdeaDirect said:
So it sounds like I will need an exchange server which I don't have. I just have a standard POP3 account with my site hosting...
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Some hosting sites (running on Linux usually) will run something like Procmail that allows you to set up filtering and forwarding rules. You might be able to get your hosting POP3 accounts to forward copies of new mail to your mail2web account.
Alternatively, you could poll the POP3 accounts from your PC at home, and have an Inbox rule that forwards relevant (ie non junk/spam) to your mail2web account. That just means having your email client running all the time to do the forwarding...
Final thought is, as you said, to set up Exchange at home, poll your POP accounts (which I believe you can do with the version of Exchange in the Small Business Server) and then set up Push with your own server.
Regards,
Dox
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Good suggestions. Yes, I can set up all sorts of forwards on my hosting server but I like keeping things separate as they are all different businesses. I like to reply from the different emails as well. I also don't want to rely on my home email client and setting up an Exchange server seems complicated (to someone that didn't even know what push email was :wink: )
It does seem that the paid version at web2email will do the trick. It is only a couple bucks a month. I need to see if I can have multiple pop3 accounts though. I don't mind paying a few bucks each month for this service as it is quite important to me. It is the primary reason I got this phone.
I apologize for my ignorance regarding Pop3 email as all I use is corporate email. I setup an activesync partnership on a laptop that only has EarthLink email. I kind of expected to be able to configure the 8125 to send / receive EarthLink email from it's Outlook E-Mail but it seems that I need to create an separate Pop3 account for EarthLink on his PDA?? I'm sure I'm missing something extremely simple but my searches have been fruitless.
Feel free to blast me into oblivion ( after pointing me in the right direction of course!)
Fire when ready Gridley!
tia
Steven
Assuming you wish to get your pop3 email on your PDA whilst it is not connected to your laptop (GPRS or WiFi) you wll you need to create a new email profile on the PDA using your existing email settings. If you just want to syncronise your email between the laptop and PDA then just set up this relationship in Activestink. If you want to use your PDA as the medium over which your laptop will connect to your email account then you will need to configue your PDA as a modem.
Let me know if I am way off in uderstanding your problem...
So my understanding is that even though the client has one email account with EarthLink and he'd like to synchronize his contacts, calendar and email with his PC he has to create a new Pop3 account on his PDA that retrieves his email while he's on the golf course or wherever that is completely separate from his Outlook E-Mail? (and this guy wonders why I'm trying to push him into a corporate email account!)
Thanks for the help!
Steven
Yep. Thats how I do it. My POP3 account is duplicated on my PDA and laptop. I use the T-Mobile web push service to shove the emails to the PDA just like text messages. I can't see why a corperate email account would be any better or different. I also have my corperate email on my PDA and corperate laptop. Same process....
Thanks for your help regarding this but now I'm confused. With my corporate I have one and only one account on my PDA which synchronizes with my Exchange server. My question is ... can my client's EarthLink email be downloaded to his PDA's main Outlook E-mail which was configured when I created the AS partnership? Or does he have to have new emails delivered to his EarthLink profile and use his PDA's Outlook profile only to review old emails when his PDA is on the road? This makes absolutely no sense.
There is a major difference between this then and Exchange email.
Sorry to be so boneheaded but I really can't believe that this is supposed to work like this!
Steven
Goodness your starting to confuse me :? AFAIK the Outlook email profile on your PDA is purely there to act as a syncronised copy of the email client that you configure AS to work with. If you look in your PDA email options you do not get the opportunity to configure this profile. In effect this profile only gives the user the ability to store on his PDA those emails that already exist on the partner PC. In addition he will be able to edit these emails (Reply, delete, file and create new) whilst the PDA is disconnected from the PC. Upon the next AS syncronisation any ammendments or new emails created on the PDA will be sent using the PC communication path and any new emails receievd into the main PC (Exchange) account will be updated to the PDA. This functionality is desgined for all PDA's BUT remember most PDA's don't have the phone built in so this is exactly the functionality they need.
If you want your clients coperate email to be updated "live" to his PDA (Phone Edition) there are three ways to do it:
1 Configure a POP3 or IMAP4 account on his corperate network with suitable dial-up access - This will be dog slow as the PDA will have to use the GSM (NOT GPRS) network to access.
2 Configure his MS exchange server to handle the new "push" email service available with Exchange 2003 SP2. A relationship is set up between the PDA and the Exchange server and the connection is made over the internet which will allow his GPRS/EDGE connection to be utilised which will be miles quicker than GSM dial-up. This method allows emails to be "pushed" to the PDA in a similar way to text messages rather than the client having to make a connection every 30 mins or whatever. The PDA software will need to be WM5 AKU2.
3 Use a 3rd party relay system such as Goodlink from Good technologies. The PDA can be WM2K3 and does not require AKU2 functionality as a client app will be installed on the phone. This works by having a secure connection between his corperate network and the Good Technlogy service centre which will then link to the PDA in a very similar way to option 2.
Any other email accounts will have their own profile configured on the PDA.
I sure hope this is of some help to cause my fingers are sore typing this out on my Wizard :wink:
Thanks for the info but I'm quite aware of and have been utilizing the corporate methods of PDA email for a number of years. Unfortunately all my clients have Exchange servers so I haven't had to deal with Pop email in quite a number of years. This particular client is a friend that insists on living with his Earthlink email. I'm just so used to having my email synced without having to work so hard!
I appreciate your effort !
Steven Putnam
MCSE / CCNA
(not that letters mean anything)
chow
No probs Steven, the only thing I would add is POP3 accounts on a mobile device will normally fall foul of useable SMTP gateways. I'm not sure what earthlink use but if you run into difficulties trying to send emails you'll know where to look. An SMTP relay server that accomodates user validation is required when your "off the ISP network"