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UK ROM 3.14.13 & Radio 4.16 finally here

Official UK upgrade is here.
Rom 3.14.13
Radio 4.16
http://www.o2.co.uk/productsservices/xda/romupgrade/0,,170,00.html

very dissapointed really
No promised MMS, no signal improvements, and although I have yet to install, it looks like there is no fix to the following problems either
1 - SMS name fix, althought the patch on this site does that so feck em!
2 - Switching to phone app after sending sms AFTER a call has been made/received
3 - O2 CS in general, look at all the other international releases, yet O2 are still waaay behind.
4 - Action update is beyond a joke!
Kevin

What? 3.14.13? .... I am expecting a new rom with MMS fuction...

Is it just me or are people not bothering to read the O2 site properly.
They didn't actually promise the MMS update in March. This is due "later in in the year", along with modem capabilities and other stuff.
MMS or sms name fix is not built into any ROM available anywhere. I know somebody who works for O2 and has the next ROM/Radio being tested and apparently this doesn't have this either.
I agree, lets kick their ass on how long it's taken to release this, but lets get our facts straight first.
Lets be realistic. A lot of the stuff we want is not going to be available until PPC 2003, so we will all have to buy new devices by then.

absolute disgust !!!
this is a shambles I wonder how this company continues to exist ?
how can they promise items in an upgrade then basically take 4 months longer than anyone else to put out this "upgrade".
Seems to me like they have the attitude "we have your money so [email protected] you"
I WILL NEVER purchase another XDA from o2.
the idea was fantastic the way they treat people is an absolute disgrace.
could you imagine the rebellion there would be if you bought a telly that kept on losing the channels you had programed when it felt like it.
this was a total waste of money on my behalf.
I will go back to my ipaq and nokia combination.
does anyone want to buy a pretty ppc with a half functioning toy phone built in.
:twisted: :x

THIS IS CRAP!
radio 4.16 still has the unable to re-aquire signal unless plugged into the cradle.
****e ****e ****e I gave O2 the benefit of the doubt for tha last 6 months with the promise that this radio version would fix this problem but it does not. I repeat NOT !
now my blood is boiling time to start a campaign.

The problem with not reaquiring the signal is SIM card related. Get a new SIM card and the problem will disappear.
Atleast this is what I found.

amarko5,
So you have been waiting 6 months for an upgrade to fix your xda not picking up a signal unless in a cradle? And it never occured to you that you have a broken xda or sim?
Well done on winning the completely stupid 2003 award. How do you not fall over more often?????
Unbelieveable.

Now, now, settle down or there'll be tears before bedtime. It is ****e though isn't it? How many people do you think O2 have got working on software? Could it be as many as one? Do you think he(she) works full time, maybe he has a day job as a plumber, very busy time of year this! The nokia/ipaq option is looking good.

Unbelieveable said:
amarko5,
So you have been waiting 6 months for an upgrade to fix your xda not picking up a signal unless in a cradle? And it never occured to you that you have a broken xda or sim?
Well done on winning the completely stupid 2003 award. How do you not fall over more often?????
Unbelieveable.
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Unbelievable you are so wrong
I have contacted o2 on many occasions and it is a "KNOWN BUG" so keep your simple minded comments to yourself.
i have tried 3 sim cards in the phone and all are the same.
I have 2 friends who suffer tha same complaint and there are also many people reporting the same problem on the official source o2 website.
it occurs if the phone loses signal for any extended period of time and if the battery is less than 3/4 charged.
when dropped back in cradle the extra power seems to kick it back up.
if signal is not lost ie local in good area then the phone functions normally
even with low power.
get your facts straight before making childish comments.
P.S. i only ever fall over when i trip over idiots like YOU !

Anonymous said:
Now, now, settle down or there'll be tears before bedtime. It is ****e though isn't it? How many people do you think O2 have got working on software? Could it be as many as one? Do you think he(she) works full time, maybe he has a day job as a plumber, very busy time of year this! The nokia/ipaq option is looking good.
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I could not agree more with your comments.

Look i agree O2 has fail on many level but their failure in understanding what we need shouldnt reflect on us... cool down and lets focus on how to get o2 to make the necassary changes
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Peace...
Yeah!
Peace, brothers and sisters.
cool down and lets focus on how to get o2 to make the necassary changes
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I did. See this new topic...

Being in the UK never helps
Why is it that we in the UK have some of the best engineers in the world. But we can't get a simple thing like a bleedin phone to work!
People come from all over the world to get education in the UK. We are a great nation. So O2 UK get yer arse into gear FFS ! ! !
~MArtin

Hi,.
I'm the first Guest who replied about it being the SIM card. I had the problem and I found that my friends O2 SIM fixed the problem. I ordered a new SIM card and it did the trick. If anyone else has the problem and their friends "NEW" SIM card don't fix it, then I too would suggest that it is your XDA that is at fault.
O2 say that it is a known bug which is true - but a bug that can be fixed with a new SIM.
Trust me or not, I was only trying to fix your problem.

@amarko 5
i have problem that may be same as you reported. phone frozen and does not load the radio on a soft reset ? impossibe to use, turn off radio etc. didn't think the power was low to be exactly the same as your problem tried putting back in cradle and on usb hot sync cable - nothing was running radio 408 and 3.14.13. only possible was a full hard reset reset which cured and reloaded radio. have now upgraded to radio 416 as per new o2 update. is this ongoing problem from your knowledge?? will an upgrade to 3.15.xx eng (dutch o2 i think ??) fix it as mentioned in earlier posts??

The Problem still existed after the upgrade (well several re upgrades as well)
I appreciated Guests suggestion of sim card but I have tried 3 simms now 2 of which are just a few weeks old.
It didn't solve my issues.
At present O2 support seem to admit they knew about it and have agreed to take my XDA back to fix (I really hope they do)
so at present i am without my XDA as it's in the post back to O2.
I really didn't want to mess with any unofficial upgrades as you suggest as it may have invalidated warranty.
I may have been a bit slow in getting this sorted but at first O2 just denied a problem it is only recently they seem to acknowledge it.
BTW this BUG seems to affect a lot of people of you read the newsgroups on O2 source newsgroups.
I hope you have better luck with the upgrade if not then i suggest a visit to an O2 shop or call the support line to return it.
dont suffer like i did.
I also hope they compensate me for the useless functionallity of the sp called phone but i have my doubts maybe i will have to consult trading standards or watchdog :wink:
time will tell and i will keep you informed of progress.

Is there some kind of matrix available showing which country is at what ROM/Radio thing? All very confusing for amateurs like me.
Also, would it not be more productive for HTC to do the updating, make it a universal download, but with localised add-ons available
If I'm hopelessly out of my depth here, throw me a lifebelt...

soft reset
Hi,
My xda have the same problem but after a few
soft reset or adjusting the power settings
it now works fine.

same problem
amarko5 said:
Unbelieveable said:
amarko5,
So you have been waiting 6 months for an upgrade to fix your xda not picking up a signal unless in a cradle? And it never occured to you that you have a broken xda or sim?
Well done on winning the completely stupid 2003 award. How do you not fall over more often?????
Unbelieveable.
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Unbelievable you are so wrong
I have contacted o2 on many occasions and it is a "KNOWN BUG" so keep your simple minded comments to yourself.
i have tried 3 sim cards in the phone and all are the same.
I have 2 friends who suffer tha same complaint and there are also many people reporting the same problem on the official source o2 website.
it occurs if the phone loses signal for any extended period of time and if the battery is less than 3/4 charged.
when dropped back in cradle the extra power seems to kick it back up.
if signal is not lost ie local in good area then the phone functions normally
even with low power.
get your facts straight before making childish comments.
P.S. i only ever fall over when i trip over idiots like YOU !
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I had exactly the same problem. They suggested that i get a new sim card because the sim is 2 years old but i couldnt be arsed with that. i phoned XDA fault centre and they said i could send it back for repair. 3 days later, i got it back, and it was working normally again, with a couple of hickups.

How do you "love" your Universal?

It's Christmastime so Im posting a topic on peace and love...
I was originally planning to post a topic on whether there's such an application for the Univ where you can schedule your SMS... I had this app on the P9 and surprised my friends by scheduling SMS to them to send at exactly 12midnight..Was planning to do this later for Christmas.. but works great on birthdays too.. I wish I had that for my Universal/Dopod too. Then it got me thinking that it was like comparing an ex-boyfriend to a current one.. and it lead to me this topic...
Whew, what an intro!
Anyway, I wanted to ask if you guys had the same "feeling" too. This forum is probably dominated by guys and I wanted to know if my feelings are way overboard already. You see, I "love" my dopod. It's a gift from my husband so I dont think it counts as an affair. But i treat it as a really special thing. I handle it really gently. I almost broke into tears when a drop of water almost seeped through the speaker. I look at it once in a while. I dream of wonderful apps to install into it. I always compare it with my old P9 (now being used by my hubby) and tell it, it's far more superior. Sometimes, i think it smiles at me when I say that.. haha. I spent hours looking for the right case. The first one I found was too hard, the other one, too snug. When I found the right case, I still didnt think it was the best for it but at least it could serve its purpose. It's the last thing I see when I go to sleep.. It stays on my left while my hubby's on my right at night. It's the one who wakes me up in the morning with a soft gentle voice. I smile whenever I open it. I just love it...
Scary huh? I think my hubby's the same way with his xbox and gamecube coz Prince of Persia is the last he sees at night.. haha.. We are one weird couple, arent we?
Anyway, Im rambling here.. just wanted to know if you had the same way for your universal.. and how do you "love" it?
And also if anyone could tell me if there was an SMS Scheduler for the universal, that would be great too!
Thanks!!! MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Angelica, i think you just managed to alienate even a few of us freaks with your degree of devotion!
When I'm programming, i can't sleep for hours mulling over unresolved issues. when my better half is talking to me I find myself phasing out and wondering how to make a better today plugin or somesuch. it's getting scary... but i digress:
Universal - it's beautiful but I barely use it, because i'm always just developing for it, not using it... i haven't installed any customisations yet (except vjlumos). i use my magician as my phone.
however, universal is a beautuful multifunction device. love? hmm. maybe not. but certainly the occassional lust! damn htc have too many devices coming out to settle down as a one phone man
if anyone has a spare Atom (i know not htc) let me know.
re sms app, if you don't find one, let me know. i used to take good advantage of the p900 sms scheduler for sickies at work, so i could sleep in
v

Let me start with wishing you guys a merry christmas!
My craze for the Universal started back in Aug, was thinking of getting a PPCPE for my work since I'm always on the outfield and seldom in the office.Was at that time thinking of buying P50 until a good friend of mine send me a link of a picture of Black universal :shock:
I start talking about it ever since.Call the local telcos and even ask some of my connections on news when universal launching in my country.Was so excited when I got rumours that O2 launching the Black beauty!! Then came the sad news that O2 not launching any HTC product in Asia as HTC wants their Dopod subsidiary company to monopolise Asia.What a thud on my head! Duh! :evil:
Then I decided to get a set from UK. search everywhere try to contact long lost friends whom happen to study in UK am getting sleepless nights and even nightmares...yes can you believe this nightmares!! Then a good samartian whom I came in contact with in UK. He help me making my dream come true. I am really greaful to him.I'm now in possesion and a proud owner of an Exec. The set have not leave out of my sight since! Msn,surfing,documents editing, send/receive emai-l free WiFi is everywhere here...too many" friendly neighbour "if you know what I mean.
I would to say thanks to Vijay555 for making my dream come thru

argh2000 said:
Let me start with wishing you guys a merry christmas!
I start talking about it ever since.Call the local telcos and even ask some of my connections on news when universal launching in my country.Was so excited when I got rumours that O2 launching the Black beauty!! Then came the sad news that O2 not launching any HTC product in Asia as HTC wants their Dopod subsidiary company to monopolise Asia.What a thud on my head! Duh! :evil:
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We are kindred spirits!
My obsession started at about the same time too.. I was saddened by the news that O2 is not releasing it in Asia.. Emailed them too... and they said I ought to settle for Atom. But I was dead set on the Universal as it really was the "universe" for me. I had a picture on it on my pc and it was my constant piece of motivation at work.. haha..
Finally got it and it really was a great device. Sure there are some bugs but I have accepted the fact that there's no such thing as perfect in this universe, much more in my Universe. And I believe in Kaizen.... continued improvement... I too, would like to say my thanks to Vijay for continuing to improve this wonderful device. Hats off to you.. and to us lovesick puppies, let the love continue!

Its almost Xmas day. Merry Xmas everyone, and especially for you, Angelika. I'm smiling when I read your posting, we can even talk about 'love' even though this is a techie forum. That's really great!
I have the same 'feelings' so that I reply to this posting.
My first love was not the Universal though. It was the XDA, the very first generation. We call it T-Mobile PPC here in the US. Its the best device I ever had in my life, and that's true even until today. It works almost in every condition and places I go everyday: office, car, airport, home, and at night it sits right to my bed. And yes, it does wake up every morning.
Then I tempted to replace my XDA with a XDA mini. Because we don't have XDA in the US, then I got one branded as i-mate JAM. Main reason was because its smaller and has bluetooth. After using it for 2 weeks, I wrap it as a gift for my dear little brother.
Since then I had plenty of pictures of the coming Universal. Could not wait until it was released. I read the review about it a lot, I imagined holding it, etc. Then I was so sad when they said it might not even come to the US as no wireless provider wanted to carry it. etc etc.
I bought it when finally it was here available in the US though it was so expensive. Even though its 3G does not work here. Even though we could not use the video conferencing feature. Even though ppl reported many bugs. But I show it proudly to ppl and talk about it everytime somebody asks about it.
After using it for a while, I found it really delicate. So that when I go to work I would prefer to carry my XDA instead. And when I got home I will use my Universal. May be its not that delicate as I said, but the point is that, I do not want anything happen to my Universal while I'm bringing it around. Is that 'the love' I feel for it? Nah... I'm just kidding.
Btw, last nite I dropped my Universal when I was sitting in a restaurant, and on my way home, I kept telling myself not to carry it out anymore. I did not cry though when it dropped, but I did inspect the detail: no scrath, SD card was pulled out due to the bump, and I think the swivel mechanism is a bit lose after that. May be just my feelings.
It took me few years to reach the point when my XDA handles everything I need it to do perfectly in all scenarios: when I work, when I play, when I drive, when I travel, when I sleep, etc.
In the case of this Universal, though its a pretty device and far superior to my XDA, but today, it still cannot handle all scenarios correctly. For example, something really funny I have everynite, my Universal rings me up every 12 AM because there is an All Day Appointment I set for the next day in Outlook. My XDA never does that to me and they're both synced to the same PC. If I think the same as you, Angelika, then I should believe the Universal tries to get more attention from me. Ha ha ha..
I love my Universal but my first love still my XDA. And my XDA will remain the best device I ever have.

Universal + "Love, Peace" = :shock:
Universal + "Cute" = :shock:
Universal + "oh chooo chweeeet" = eiyuuuuuu :shock:
Universal + "its muh byabeeee" = :shock:
XDA-Dev + (Any of above) = holyyyyyy helllllll no wayyyyyyyy!!!
"I think my BULLDOG kicks some baddd ass!" - Yeahhhhh!!!
lol
Cheers and merry christmas to all of you
S

I love my Universal as much as I love sheep........
Merry Christmas everyone

I am missing my XDA Exec as it is having some repairs hopefully it will come back all fixed
Merry Christmas and lets hope we have a little more Peace on Earth in the New Year

argh2000: how are you getting on with it? everything ok? you still want some more to complete your harem of Universals!? will email next week. Love the forum btw, coming on very well.
i've got some new releases coming next week, and for all you VGA universal lovers, I had an idea for a new app you might find useful. news next week.
angelica, have you tried vga yet? and did you get your launcher sorted?
v

I keep it charging on my bedside at night with the screen turned on. Sometimes I leave it with a movie "The Incredibles" playing till the next morning.

Yay! It's Christmas day! Although I got my Christmas present days ago, Im still very happy about it..
Vijay555, Im really looking forward to your new release... Im sure it's a great app again. Ehem....Could it be the sms scheduler I've been searching for? Either way, I know it's still something great. Ive installed your PhoneTools and I have them in my Today Screen but I seldom use it coz I still need to edit the messages I send anyway... and it's still defaulted at +1234.. Cant seem to edit it.. I uninstalled Clauncher and just stuck with SPBPocket Plus...
cktlcmd, wow! What a way to maximize your universal.. Im tempted to try the same thing..
dreamtheater39, I know I'm so faaaaar away from the techies here in this forum and the universal isnt probably meant to incite any cute or mushy feeling from anybody, as it is cold as steel. But hey, cant help it.. i really get this mushy warm feeling whenever I look at it. Now, aint that some kind of passion too? I bet most of the techies here have the same passion for a new program or when deciphering a code. I guess to each his own... But hey, I bet I made you smile, didnt I?
Confucious, sheep? Then, are u a shepherd?
Merry Christmas Everybody!

cuteangelika said:
Yay! It's Christmas day! Although I got my Christmas present days ago, Im still very happy about it..
Vijay555, Im really looking forward to your new release... Im sure it's a great app again. Ehem....Could it be the sms scheduler I've been searching for? Either way, I know it's still something great. Ive installed your PhoneTools and I have them in my Today Screen but I seldom use it coz I still need to edit the messages I send anyway... and it's still defaulted at +1234.. Cant seem to edit it.. I uninstalled Clauncher and just stuck with SPBPocket Plus...
cktlcmd, wow! What a way to maximize your universal.. Im tempted to try the same thing..
dreamtheater39, I know I'm so faaaaar away from the techies here in this forum and the universal isnt probably meant to incite any cute or mushy feeling from anybody, as it is cold as steel. But hey, cant help it.. i really get this mushy warm feeling whenever I look at it. Now, aint that some kind of passion too? I bet most of the techies here have the same passion for a new program or when deciphering a code. I guess to each his own... But hey, I bet I made you smile, didnt I?
Confucious, sheep? Then, are u a shepherd?
Merry Christmas Everybody!
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hee hee I was just kiddin
Its great to see you love your universal soooo much! I wish my girlfriend did so too Instead she says 'you and your stupid gadget obsession' She's really sweet and shares my 'high', but i sometimes go overrrr boardddd (if you know what i mean!)
You all have fun & merry christmas once again
San

angelika: are you using ilauncher? go to my phonetools page on my site, and there's a subpage talking you through how to set up for that app.
i'm not working on the sms scheduler, but it's easy enough in principle. if you can't find one elsewhere i'll start, but next week will be busy with new release VJAccioPhone (that's not the _other_ idea had for VGA universal!)
hope you guys & gals are having a great xmas, best wishes from a very
wet but delightful italy...
v

vijay555 said:
angelika: are you using ilauncher? go to my phonetools page on my site, and there's a subpage talking you through how to set up for that app.
i'm not working on the sms scheduler, but it's easy enough in principle. if you can't find one elsewhere i'll start, but next week will be busy with new release VJAccioPhone (that's not the _other_ idea had for VGA universal!)
hope you guys & gals are having a great xmas, best wishes from a very
wet but delightful italy...
v
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VJ what is the app that you've been working on?????????!! I hate surprises
Atleast a hint????
And whats VJAccioPhone???
You have a great xmas and new years m8
Cheers!
San

I told mine i loved it .... but then it messed me around a bit , so I dumped it and hooked up with it's younger sister , which seems to be behaving itself so far - but I won't hesitate to replace it if it messes me around :evil:

vijay555 said:
argh2000: how are you getting on with it? everything ok? you still want some more to complete your harem of Universals!? will email next week. Love the forum btw, coming on very well.
i've got some new releases coming next week, and for all you VGA universal lovers, I had an idea for a new app you might find useful. news next week.
angelica, have you tried vga yet? and did you get your launcher sorted?
v
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Hey Vijay555, how is your holiday in Italy going?
My Exec is great, after upgrading the rom and plus some tweaking,it's flying :wink: well maybe I'm abit to exagerating.. but i love my set
Looking forward for your new applications

Holiday in Italy is going well but looking forward to being back in the uk now! the free time is giving me too much time to think of new apps.... too many to program, i'm going to have to start programming full time!
The universal app will hopefully improve life for VGA thumb usage.
Another for general WM5 use bringing back a missing feature hopefully. No more details till I know if I can do it. Hopefully shortly I'll also get my blog going to discuss ideas, progress and general programming & improving/hacking the PDA
VJAccioPhone is a program I finished coding just before the holiday that had kept me busy for quite a few late nights. I've not released it yet, but search the board to find my 'preannouncement'. Hopefully it'll be very useful for us idiots carrying $1000 phones! Proper news next week...
v
ps while waiting for a table in a restaurant in florence yesterday I met a guy who asked about my phone (magician) He'd just bought himself a wizard. i felt embarrassed sounding so passionate about the phones! Freaks we are, one and all....

Hi Vijay! Merry Christmas too! Wow, what a way to spend your vacation--- still thinking of wonderful apps to share with us..
Your new app looks promising! If only I had the technical know-how, I'd be helping out too.. but then, Im a mere mortal, waiting for blessings from techie gods like you..
Im not using ilauncher. I've stopped tinkering with you phone tools.. Needed to rest for a while to clean the slate and reflect on where I went wrong that I still couldnt make it work like I want to..
dreamtheater39: Good thing, that was a joke.. I was seriously thinking non-geeks like me are not allowed..
Merry Christmas!

Thought about this a bit more.
I have a "love"/"hate" relationship with my XDA Exec. The hardware is great (keyboard, sceeen and all the wireless connectivity) but the software seems incomplete and on some areas very poor quality (why memory leaks on a device in 2005? memory management is not bleeding edge tech!). I really think if HTC could double the user storage and available RAM this could have been a device well ahead of its time. It is the first of a new genertion of wireless PDA/mini tablets. I really want to carry around all my business data (2/3GB) on this device, but the need to reset it a few times a day doe snot make the Universal a reliable business tool. Perhaps we'll get some fixes in the new year.

jah said:
Thought about this a bit more.
I have a "love"/"hate" relationship with my XDA Exec. The hardware is great (keyboard, sceeen and all the wireless connectivity) but the software seems incomplete and on some areas very poor quality (why memory leaks on a device in 2005? memory management is not bleeding edge tech!). I really think if HTC could double the user storage and available RAM this could have been a device well ahead of its time. It is the first of a new genertion of wireless PDA/mini tablets. I really want to carry around all my business data (2/3GB) on this device, but the need to reset it a few times a day doe snot make the Universal a reliable business tool. Perhaps we'll get some fixes in the new year.
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i have the same problem too I have a qtek with stock rom loaded....and the free ram slowly drops....and after a couple hours of use, its down to 10-15megs of free ram even with all apps closed
Hope they'd fix it soon....!
Another quirk...using it as a phone is crazy without the bluetooth headset...you need two hands, and complete attention to pull off the "Answer the phone" maneuver :x
Otherwise, its just awesome
S

Hermes On T-Mobile... Maybe Not?

I have heard on the grapevine that T-Mobile will not be stocking the Hermes, the reason for this is the high cost price, it will be similair to what the MDA Pro costs and for that reason will just not sell enough.
Can't guarantee this though as the same was said about the Nokia 8800 and Samsung D500 when they were originally released but a back track was soon made!

T-Mobile Germany gave it a name already as the Vario II, and there is a flyer on their website. T-Mobile UK makes its own decisions - let's just hope they see the Hermes as a solution to the current shortage of Wizards...

whats a hermes and what will it do for me?
ok how is it going to be better than the wizard? just wondering expect i'll break my wizard about the same time this new one becomes affordable.
PS: some device that can run the day to day relationship with my girlfriend would be pretty useful. or even a text message auto reply option, sense the mood from the incoming text and reply appriately.

R_J_Webb said:
PS: some device that can run the day to day relationship with my girlfriend would be pretty useful. or even a text message auto reply option, sense the mood from the incoming text and reply appriately.
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Aw, you old romantic!

R_J_Webb said:
PS: some device that can run the day to day relationship with my girlfriend would be pretty useful. or even a text message auto reply option, sense the mood from the incoming text and reply appriately.
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Summiter thinks...
starts coding...
then thinks some more about the fortune he's about to make on the future best selling WM app ever devised...
Thanks for the idea!

summiter said:
Summiter thinks...
starts coding...
then thinks some more about the fortune he's about to make on the future best selling WM app ever devised...
Thanks for the idea!
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You could just have it display the word "APPROVED" but it only gives them warm fuzzys when they see it on the cash register display after using your card.

Just seen pics of the hermes thing and well i'll stick with the wizard unless i plan to build a small outhouse then a few hermes would be needed.
PS: the early stages of most relationships surely could benefit from an sms auto reply app.
1. scan msg
2. count instances of 'love you' etc... deduct instances of 'i hate you' etc.
3. use the score to judge the mood
4. probably apologise for conflict in the middle east
5. send reply
be funny if it could learn and have access to ur phone book. you could wake up one morning and its decided that girlfriend 1 is too much hassle so its dumped her and propositioned someone else for you. brilliant!

might be worth saying at this point before this thread get any dafter.
best keep PocketGirlFriend v0.1 top secret, as if PocketBoyFriend ever got written then things would get daft!!!

i dont see why they would. they have the MDA same thing... right?

About to purchase a JasJam and had some ?s

So i'm in saudi arabia now for the holidays and i'm going to trade my K-Jam (Wizard) in for a jasjam. Today i stopped by the Axiom service center, which is one of the most popular warranty providers here, and i asked them about the screen alignment issue and the guy told me he's had no problems with the JasJam.. is that right? I've looked in the wiki and didn't notice anything about the JasJam so i just wanted to make sure.
My other quetions pertain to rom's and programs but i guess i could figure all that out when i get the baby in my hands. But is there anything else i should be aware of before hand?
Thanks in advance and i look forward to moving over to the Hermes thread!

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So i'm in saudi arabia now for the holidays and i'm going to trade my K-Jam (Wizard) in for a jasjam. Today i stopped by the Axiom service center, which is one of the most popular warranty providers here, and i asked them about the screen alignment issue and the guy told me he's had no problems with the JasJam.. is that right? I've looked in the wiki and didn't notice anything about the JasJam so i just wanted to make sure.
My other quetions pertain to rom's and programs but i guess i could figure all that out when i get the baby in my hands. But is there anything else i should be aware of before hand?
Thanks in advance and i look forward to moving over to the Hermes thread!
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Well as regards the Screen Alignment problem I believe this is far less of an issue than it was. I do still see the odd comment though, that someone with a newer device has a problem.
You are obviously not new to the forum and I guess you've looked around the Hermes posts but maybe this one is relevant?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=280383&page=5
Might also want to search a bit on video playback issues regarding the likes of Coreplayer (TCPMP) where there have been issues. Also some issues with bluetooth might be worth searching. Wifi range maybe an issue 10-15metres ok but weak over this distance. One or two with slack/loose sliding keyboards - check if possible for firm clicks on open and closed when buying. Less of an issue now but some keyboards have slightly unresponsive keys - work but need very firm or firmer press again check on purchasing if possible.
Just some thoughts, despite any niggles a great device.
Mike

Thanks for your reply. As for software issues, i've read posts about them and figured thats something i'd deal with when i get the device, i'm mainly concerned about hardware issues. Wifi is pretty useless to me on a daily basis because i have the unlimitted data package, which i abuse to the MAX! that brings another question, hows the batter with a data connection always on? because the nokia N80 doesn't last through the day with its UMTS bands on.
The sliding mechanism, even if i knew nothing about the device, thats something i'd automaticly check, the sliding integrity. Also i remember about 2 months ago reading about issues with the sticky/hard keys, i'll check that out as well, but pretty sure most stores won't let me put the battery in it till i pay and after that i have to deal with the company that the device's warranty is under.j
i'm gonna do some more snooping around in the hermes thread but what bluetooth issues are you talking about specifically? i don't use a bt headset, but i might buy a stereo one if the battery can handle about 4 hours of music playback a day. Also that fossil/sony ericsson BT watch looks pretty neat, might grab one of those as well, but i just treated myself to a Concord Saratoga with the chronographs 3 days ago so don't need another watch
Thank you mike for your input and i'm really excited to get this device! i'm supposed to attend 2 christmas parties tonight, pretty sure i'm either going to be in the corner playing with my JasJam or at my parents place watching it charge!

Happy playing with new toy!
The bluetooth thing is more software than hardware, the following will give you some idea:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1079019
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=287100&highlight=stack
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=287210&highlight=stack
I cannot really summarise as I don't really use bluetooth myself.
Mike

Thanks for your replies, i skipped my best friends X-Mas dinner to go buy my Hermes... haha, its ok he's a tech freak as well and he'll understand. Just plugged in my baby into the charger and my girlfiends jealous already so can't touch it for 8 hours... so my girlfriend will keep me occupied till then
Now i've got to figure out which is the best rom and and whats the best case for me... i don't want to put a scratch on this thing, unlike my K-Jam which looked like it went through a war!!
Thanks again, heading over to the upgrading and accessories thread to bug some people there

fone_fanatic
Congrat's m8 ..how much did u payed ?

3,099 Saudi Riyals which converts to $826.40 american

Taking the plunge.... A few questions...

As mentioned I am trying to uck up the courage to go for the hd2!
My worries: (and I hoped you experts will be able to help me out!!)
1) large thread on vodaphone website suggesting (from what I can make out!) the hd2 has been abandoned (some suggest irreperable h/ware issues?)
the reviews I hve read rate this phone so highly so it's a shame if this is the case!
2) pink tinge on camera - is this hard or firmware and is the issue fixed?
3) played with a demo unit in the o2 store and the browser pinching doesn't work! Is this likely down to a "demo unit" thing?
4) how does the experience compare to any previous xda users? Had 3 xdas in the past including an orbit and ended up ditching them because of poor browser and crap data rates!
5) any recommendation on the difference between networks welcomed in terms of data as on an unlimited iPhone tariff which ends now so was using my collateral with that to source the phone!
Kind thanks for your thoughts, advice and recommendation!!!

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1) large thread on vodaphone website suggesting (from what I can make out!) the hd2 has been abandoned (some suggest irreperable h/ware issues?)
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I don't think even Vodafone could answer this question for you! I wouldn't want to try and get one from them though, as there are so many on back-order now that you could be waiting a looooooooooooong time!
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2) pink tinge on camera - is this hard or firmware and is the issue fixed?
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It varies from phone to phone, as to how serious this actually is. The camera fix has definitely improved things though, and a couple of setting changes make it pretty much disappear. Personally, it's never been bad enough for me to see it as an issue, and since the fix I really couldn't care less if it is there or not, as pics are looking a LOT better!
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3) played with a demo unit in the o2 store and the browser pinching doesn't work! Is this likely down to a "demo unit" thing?
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Pinching works on Opera, but not on IE. There is a system style pinch-to-zoom that you can enable on most apps, but it's not the same and, in my opinion, a bit of a blag. When it is real, it looks great. Opera has become my favourite mobile browser since getting this phone.
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4) how does the experience compare to any previous xda users? Had 3 xdas in the past including an orbit and ended up ditching them because of poor browser and crap data rates!
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Data rates, well that's down to your provider isn't it. As far as browsers go, the massive screen, pinching to zoom, and the overall speed of Opera make browsing on this phone a real joy. I started my xda journer with a Touch Diamond, moved to a HD, and then on to the HD2, and it's just got better and better every time!
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5) any recommendation on the difference between networks welcomed in terms of data as on an unlimited iPhone tariff which ends now so was using my collateral with that to source the phone!
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I'm afraid that's where I bottom out. I've gone for a basic tarrif on a monthly rolling contract so that I'm not tied to any one provider. I currently use O2 and find them cheap and have had no problems with them (except 1 day where I couldn't get HSPA at work). I get HSPA coverage everywhere I normally go, and that's the most important thing for me. Basically, shop round and see what suits you. I don't think anyone can really answer this question - just advise you.
All-in-all GET IT!!! Hahaha. Like I explained, my xda journey has been a good one, where each phone blew the last phone away. This is the biggest leap I've had so far, in terms of performance and just generally being happy and impressed with the phone.
Yeah, there are some issues, mainly due to the fact that the phone is so new, but I bet 90% of people on here would rather have a phone with some bugs now, than wait till March next year before they get it.
Good luck on finding a good deal. Hope you get it sorted mate

Hello and Welcome,
I know how you feel about plucking up the courage to take the plunge. The press reviews are very positive; however users on here tell a different story which is a mixed bag.
If you are happy to take the time to tweak the device to get around some of the known problems then that's a positive. If you don' feel able to do so then you might want to hold fire until HTC have all the issues ironed out.
I suggest you do the following:
- start by reading this thread end to end...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
- when done take a look at the first few pages of each sub forum of the LEO forum to get a summary of where people are at with this device
- then search for 2 threads which are both polls: one is on the sms problem and the other is on (I think) peoples overall views of the HD2.These should help give you a sense of balance and perspective.
Once you have done all this you should be able to judge for yourself whether you want to take the plunge or not.
By the way, tip on asking for help on here is to search first then, if you can't find what you are looking for come back, tell us where you have searched and we will help you out. I don't have a problem answering questions but you might get slaughtered/flamed by others who are not so patient.
Come back if you need more info.
All the best.
WB

I agree with the other comments. If you want the best phone out right now this is it despite some problems.
I would add that GPS is awsome I get signals inside buildings now and the large screen is great. To get it running the way I want I had to load the unoficial 1.61 TUR-WWE Rom as I had problem with bluetooth.
Its slightly too big for my tastes having jumped direct from a diamond but this is a personal preference. Also the glass screen 'seems' fragile Ie. Im always carefull not to drop it, I used to throw my diamond about everywhere.

davidandrews said:
As mentioned I am trying to uck up the courage to go for the hd2!
My worries: (and I hoped you experts will be able to help me out!!)
1) large thread on vodaphone website suggesting (from what I can make out!) the hd2 has been abandoned (some suggest irreperable h/ware issues?)
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Well, it all seems to be down to not being able to get stock? Well, the real deal IMHO is that they are about to launch another certain phone which is rather good at most of the things the Touch HD2 is good at. I reckon this is the real reason, they don't want to water down their iPhone launch.
There is PLENTY of Sim Free stock around, cheapest I found 2 days ago was Insight UK, £482 and £17 cashback if you go via Quidco.
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2) pink tinge on camera - is this hard or firmware and is the issue fixed?
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Not had a chance to play yet, only had it a full day so far. Other reading I have done suggests its pretty much fixed. Lets face it, you don't get a WM device for great photos, but this seems to be best one so far.
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3) played with a demo unit in the o2 store and the browser pinching doesn't work! Is this likely down to a "demo unit" thing?
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Almost certainly using IE and not Opera?
davidandrews said:
4) how does the experience compare to any previous xda users? Had 3 xdas in the past including an orbit and ended up ditching them because of poor browser and crap data rates!
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As other people say, data rates down to your Telco, but I will say in early testing here, the wi-fi pick up is easily the best WM device I have ever used, it finds it everytime you turn back on, not always the case with WM, and something the iPhone has always done superbly.
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5) any recommendation on the difference between networks welcomed in terms of data as on an unlimited iPhone tariff which ends now so was using my collateral with that to source the phone!
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Well I am gonna see how long I can use it WITH my iPhone SIM before getting a warning from O2
But, IF you do not make many calls and texts (like me), it can be worth running devices like this with a SIM from a Mobile Broadband dongle.
I have a 3UK one which has 5GB of data for £7.50 a month, calls and texts are 20p I think but I use so few it dows not matter.
I also use a Vodafone PAYG one which you just top up £15 and it lasts ages, not so sure about phone calls though.
Over on my blog at http://www.kevwright.com I have been trying to dump an iPhone 3GS for a while now, and will shortly start adding entries from the HD2 vs the iPhone to go along with the current ones comparing S60 phones with the iPhone. May be of interest.
Kev
Kind thanks for your thoughts, advice and recommendation!!![/QUOTE]

Wow, i can't thank you all for your thoughts, tips and advice
I remember why i joined here five years ago.
Sorry if it seemed i posted questions when info is still readily available, but i have scoured scores of pages on o2 and vodaphone and felt i would get a more definitive and exact answer here as it was blowing my brain!
Going to O2 tomorrow as they are in stock got a choice of free at £45 or £93 phone on £35! Quite excited, need to buy lots of 16gb memory cards now!