Surprise me that I read nothing about the poor receiving quality of the Hermes when I one meter away from the router the signal drops down dramatically with 50% and after ten meters I read only 10% or something is there something to do about this? Maybe a bad antenna inside the Hermes or Faraday effect?
Any suggestion is welcome or am I the only one with this matter.
Heijdemann said:
Surprise me that I read nothing about the poor receiving quality of the Hermes when I one meter away from the router the signal drops down dramatically with 50% and after ten meters I read only 10% or something is there something to do about this? Maybe a bad antenna inside the Hermes or Faraday effect?
Any suggestion is welcome of am I the only one with this matter.
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I'm afraid the TyTn (Hermes) does not have a strong reception on wifi. Fine up to 10 metres and if not too much in the way upto 15 or so. Ok generally in and around normal house but if it's Buckingham Palace not too hot. Just the compromise we pay for having to pack in allthe other features I'm afraid.
Mike
I believe part of the problem is the antenna placement. While I don't know exactly where the antenna is located, I do know that when the device is held in your hand it has a considerable lower receive signal strength (as much as 10dB).
Give it a try. Set the device on the table and see what you measure. Then hold the device in your hand and see the difference.
Tim
tolson said:
I believe part of the problem is the antenna placement. While I don't know exactly where the antenna is located, I do know that when the device is held in your hand it has a considerable lower receive signal strength (as much as 10dB).
Give it a try. Set the device on the table and see what you measure. Then hold the device in your hand and see the difference.
Tim
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Your right. The antenna is along top edge. When in landscape your left hand tends to obscure it.
Mike
The WIFI reception on these devices is exteremly horrible. There must be a problem in the design, as it don't do more than 10 meters. We have a Andes in the house as well and it has no problems at all with wifi reception.
There must be a fix out there. I purchased this device specifically for the wifi .
have you noticed the connector for spar external place on the back of the TYTN? an is found rubberizes near the camera. I have attentively looked at the photos of the inside and I believe that this is related to the form radio and not to the wifi.
I would like so much to realize a connector wifi for external spar (you see PSP wifi connector) even replacing that connector radio with a wifi and connecting a cable on the chip wifi TNETW1250.
the welding of the cable should be made on the chip TNETW3422M.
Is there someone who has photo more detailed of those that are on the forum of xda?
Have y'all tried the Best Performance setting?
I have not used Wifi, nor will I ever (that is what 3G is for - since 3G is faster than my DSL connection...), but others have reported that changing to Best Performance helps...
I had three TyTN's and the last one had a horrible WiFi reception....10 meters at best. I had a Loox 720 (from a friend) for reference...with this PDA I could walk about 50 meters before reception became unusable. When it comes to WiFi reception this device has a major production tolerance. It makes me wonder if there is some kind of QC over there at HTC. My devices shouldn't have shipped in the first place.
b.t.w. I used all available settings and at in economy mode reception was even worse....signal meter at 30-40% only a few feet away from my wireless router (my reference Loox... 100%!!)
worst of all...instead of fixing it they just release a new device.
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I had three TyTN's and the last one had a horrible WiFi reception....10 meters at best. I had a Loox 720 (from a friend) for reference...with this PDA I could walk about 50 meters before reception became unusable. When it comes to WiFi reception this device has a major production tolerance. It makes me wonder if there is some kind of QC over there at HTC. My devices shouldn't have shipped in the first place.
b.t.w. I used all available settings and at in economy mode reception was even worse....signal meter at 30-40% only a few feet away from my wireless router (my reference Loox... 100%!!)
worst of all...instead of fixing it they just release a new device.
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It's a curious thing - yes I get good reception up to 15 meters then drops off badly. BUT if I'm driving around with wifi on it detects an endless stream of home networks that in many cases must greatly exceed 10/15 meters.
Mike
jeffreycentex said:
Have y'all tried the Best Performance setting?
I have not used Wifi, nor will I ever (that is what 3G is for - since 3G is faster than my DSL connection...), but others have reported that changing to Best Performance helps...
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In my opinion I think you correct with this setting only the interval of the cheksum when connected and not the sensivity of wifi receiver.
Related
Hello All,
I am wondering if you can help. I have a Linksys N router at home which is supposed to be 4x the area of coverage from a g. It is in my basement and the signal in my bedrooms is very weak. I purchased a Linksys signal booster and plugged on the first floor to repeat the signal to the bedrooms.
Here is the problem: I use my TYTN on the first floor close to the basement window and the signal is ok but when I move farther on the first floor the signal becomes very weak - not to mention how weak it is upstairs in the bedrooms.
I tried it with my Univeral and it is a killer full bar signal. This leads me to believe it is either my wifi is busted on my TYNT in terms of reception or they have very weak WIFI antenas. Can someone confirm if they have a similar problem?
Thanks,
Gilbert
yes i think there is a problem with the signal
he is very weak!
Both Universal and Blue Angel have better wifi signal than hermes...incredible... I wonder how htc project device...
Both Universal and Blue Angel have better wifi signal than hermes...incredible... I wonder how htc project device...
At least it got better WiFi-signal than the Wizard...
Change the mode to 'best performance' and try again.
Cheerio
Howard
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Both Universal and Blue Angel have better wifi signal than hermes...incredible... I wonder how htc project device...
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I don't know about Universal, but I have a BlueAngel and it doesn't have better wifi signal than Hermes. Hermes a lot better for me, mine is an HTC TyTN (WWE) #628.
FWIW I have both Blue Angel and Wizard devices -- the Wizard's WiFi is far superior to the BA. The BA can barely pick up the signal for my office network, but the Wizard can connect to it from outside.
You should try to adjust the battery vs. performance slider in wifi settings
and report if the signal is stronger then.
I haventh had the opportunity to test the wlan yet myself.
Guys, i have use ALL HTC devices so far and i can surely say that their wifi chipsets in terms of signal strength is totally crap( i have made lots of tests comparing to other PDA brands).
I haven't used an HTC Hermes so far but i am afraid( judging from your saying) that the problem still persists.
I've done a quick test: opened wififofum on BlueAngel and Hermes, and walked around the house.
BA found 13APs, while TyTN found 22. At some point BA was seeing 7/13 while TyTN 11/22.
So, TyTN is far superior
Well here is the deal.
I tried my universal in my bedroom and it has full bar and then tried it with my Tytn and it has one bar!!!!!
I have a linksys N router in my basement and a signal booster in the first floor and this is adquate to boost the signal to my second floor bedrooms. But instead, all other devices have excellent reception but my tytn has one or two bars to the max when i put it in best performance mode. I am running a surge on wifi signals in my house and it is still weak.
WTF
Gilbert
Sorry If I'm kinda jumping or hijack this thread. Although this thread I guess is better than I start a new thread. My Prophet also sucks when receiving WIFI signals. I have an Alpine, an 02 Zinc, a nintendo DS, a laptop. dudes, my prophet couldn't even receive signal on the next room adjacent to where my router is. but for everything else in my devices, it can go as far as outside my house. probably 15meters away from the wifi, but can still browse. my prophhet can only receive wifi signals if i put my phropet besides the router itself. then slowly moving away but not exceeding 10 FEET. I mean what the hell is the wlan for if it ain't going further than 10 eet from the router. in my devices here's from the farthest to the weakest:
1. My Laptop of course: can still watch youtube outside the house.
2. My Alpine: dudes the signal rocks! even thru my inside gates.
3. My Zinc: slightly nearer than my alpine.
4. My NDS: kinda halfway than my Alpine.
5. My Prophet: worse: you should be beside the router. then why i don't i just open my dang PC and browse from it.
I have all these device with me.
for about sometime I also had the nokia n91. wifi signal's pretty good too. I just sold it out since when browsing heavy sites, the explorer turns off. I freakinly hate my prophet for it's ridiculous wifi connection. Currently I'm flashing all available rom there is just to test my WIFI reception. Hope you guys observe my tests. thanks!
What I want to say is that the wifi singnal has matters with the barrier in the space and the network condition itself. Beside that ,I made a test before,the wifi singal on WM6.1 was better than WM6.Maybe you can try to update your OS version.
Is it normal that about 15-20m from my home WLAN access point, TyTN loses the signal. Even within 4m from the WLAN station, the signal bar won't go to the highest level?
Is this normal behaviour?
I have used laptops with internal WLAN cards that can reach the access point from about 50m away without any problems and signal level at good.
same happens to me, my dell laptop works just fine but my tytn looses signal 8-10 meters from wifi spot...
Change the power save mode to best performance, to see if it helps:
start - settings - connections - wireless lan - power mode
Although it doesn't sound like the case, it is possible for the radio receiver to be overloaded if the signal is too strong as would be the case with it right next to the AP.
Bit like trying to listen to music standing next to a speaker chucking out 10kW
David.
Yup, have tried that power save/performance thingie. Wasn't much difference wether the powersave or performance was at it's highest setting.
Hi, Which is your serial number...starts with HT6??? ?
Bye.
Yeah i can agree my wifi signal is poor on my MDA Vario II, worse than my Vario, and far below my laptop,
it sucks as i live just near a star bucks and have a 1 year t-ob hotspot subscription.
not sure if its the same problem but my vario2 constantly drops its wifi connection and starts searching for others regardless of signal strength. When i called T-mobile they confirmed it ws a hardware fault and are sending me a new replacement.
Wiper said:
Is it normal that about 15-20m from my home WLAN access point, TyTN loses the signal. Even within 4m from the WLAN station, the signal bar won't go to the highest level?
Is this normal behaviour?
I have used laptops with internal WLAN cards that can reach the access point from about 50m away without any problems and signal level at good.
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poor WLAN reception was quite an issue in HTC Wizard and unfortunately problem remains with HTC Hermes/TyTN as well. big shame imho, however since i have web'n'walk deal, i don't use WLAN in my Vario II at all.
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Hi, Which is your serial number...starts with HT6??? ?
Bye.
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The s/n is HT628F...
I have the same problem described above. Very weak signals and constantly dropping connection / looking for other signals. I have an M3100. Is it a ROM or hardware fault?
Same problem here.
2 laptops work fine, as did my HTC Prophet (Orange M600).
I returned the M600 and went for the M3100 instead. Little did I know the M3100 would have problems picking up the wifi signal from my router where the M600 had NO problems at all.
I've been considering replacing the wirless router for one with a bigger range, or installing a signal booster of some sort.
I thought maybe I have a duff phone, but looks like it's the norm.
So far at least my replacement Vario2 isnt displaying the previous wi-fi sigal dropping problem so maybe the problem was ironed out on the newer models - my old serial number was HTC623 and the replacement is HTC624
same here - very weak wifi on serial - HT634xxx
Yes i need to also confirm that my unit is suffering from very weak wifi signal.
Right now im siting by my 838 Pro and my notebook, my notebook has "full signal (5 bars)" but my 838 pro has "very weak signal (1 bar)"
my unit has serial number of HT634xxxxxx
bought in bangkok 4 days ago.
Thanks for any inputs
Cheers
NR
Just got my phone this week, serial number is HT635, WiFi performance is crap.
I've only managed to have it work once so far for about 20 minutes, even if I stand next to my router.
Doesn't work at work either.
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not sure if its the same problem but my vario2 constantly drops its wifi connection and starts searching for others regardless of signal strength. When i called T-mobile they confirmed it ws a hardware fault and are sending me a new replacement.
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Are your sure they said it was a hardware failure??
I have the same problem. Sitting about 5 ft. from my wireless router the Tytn drops the connection, displays 2 wireless icons in the topbar and wants to connect the the wireless router of somebody else. I have to delete the wireless settings and re-enter them in order to get WiFi working again. The signal is also very weak and after 10 meters the connection is gone. HT633.
Pardon my ignorance, never tried wi-fi, but anyway... Couldn't be a reason that AFAIK 'g' mode is turned off by default? I thought I saw it in the one of the tweaking utinily...
What ??? The Wi-Fi in TyTn is that very bad ???
I hate to say that I just ordered that phone with T-Mobile NL ! And I ditched my Magician. The reason was that I want that Wi-Fi !!
Poor me
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Pardon my ignorance, never tried wi-fi, but anyway... Couldn't be a reason that AFAIK 'g' mode is turned off by default? I thought I saw it in the one of the tweaking utinily...
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I think your point is accurate there Lurker. I've done some hunting around to find a Registry hack to enable Wifi G which I found here.
I'm happy to report that it actually made quite a difference. Previously the signal would cut out constantly in my living room and was generally useless. After applying the Wifi G hack, I get a medium to low signal in my living room, which is stable. I've tested the bandwidth and it is exactly the same as my PC gets. The Vario II Wifi reception still isn't exactly great, but it works in the rooms I need it to, so that's good enough for me.
Here is the hack (amended for Vario II):
1) Locate the following key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\COMM\TIACXWLN1\PARMS
2) Add new DWORD Value:
name: dot11SupportedRateMaskG
D value: 8
guys, this hack is for the Wizard only and does nothing on the Hermes... the Hermes comes with 802.11g wifi enabled by default.
Is it me or is the wifi reception on the X1 (also the touch diamond/pro) suck? My N95 and Blackberry Bold seem to be able to pick it up much farther away than the X1 can. I ran some speed tests using the built in browser for each device.
Right next to the router, they all average about 2500-3000 kbps. About 20 feet away in direct line of sight, they drop to about 1000-1500 kbps. If I go into one more room, about 30 feet away and through a thin wall, the N95 and Blackberry both still get 700-1000 kbps reliably, while the X1 gets 100-200kbps and sometimes just decides to disconnect itself.
I've set the wifi options to "Most Performance" which didn't seem to make any difference.
I also tried this on a different router on in a different apartment and the results are the same. It pissed me off when I had my HTC touch diamond, and I thought it was just a diamond fault, but the X1i has exactly the same problems... is there a fix I'm not aware of?
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Is it me or is the wifi reception on the X1 (also the touch diamond/pro) suck? My N95 and Blackberry Bold seem to be able to pick it up much farther away than the X1 can. I ran some speed tests using the built in browser for each device.
Right next to the router, they all average about 2500-3000 kbps. About 20 feet away in direct line of sight, they drop to about 1000-1500 kbps. If I go into one more room, about 30 feet away and through a thin wall, the N95 and Blackberry both still get 700-1000 kbps reliably, while the X1 gets 100-200kbps and sometimes just decides to disconnect itself.
I've set the wifi options to "Most Performance" which didn't seem to make any difference.
I also tried this on a different router on in a different apartment and the results are the same. It pissed me off when I had my HTC touch diamond, and I thought it was just a diamond fault, but the X1i has exactly the same problems... is there a fix I'm not aware of?
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if anything I'm gettign the opposite, I think this is the best wifi reception Ive had out of a WM phone by a long long way
Does anyone know if its possible to boost the strength of the antenna (either by software or hardware)
I'm located on a mine site in remote West Aust where Telstra Next G is the only coverage we have.
I've found that out of all the my work colleagues, the HD2 has the worse reception of all. Comparing it to a friends iPhone he can get a signal in many places I get none, and once I've reached an area where I do have 1 bar (out of 4), he's usually got 3 bars (out of 5).
I've done a fair bit of Googling/etc but haven't really found anything. I've updated to the latest Telstra ROM (1.72), and that was no better. Also tried a couple of other ROM's from the HTCPedia site (eg Dutty's) but they were even worse.
Are there any software tricks to boost the signal? Can I get it modified to have a better antenna installed, or even have an external antenna connection fitted? I've tried one of those inductive antenna's that clips to the back but that didn't help.
Cheers
Peewee
HD2 antenna
I have a similar problem and have fired an enquiry off to the guys at 'comnet' to see if a high gain antenna can be hooked up to a universal inductive cradle for my HD2.
I will only try it out if I can find someone who has got it working.
There are such things as local area booster relays, but, you would have to get one for the correct frequency and they are not cheap.
Try the latest release radio in the radio thread in the ROM development forum. Its the best so far.
Make sure its compatible with your ROM.
i tested USB Dongle with a laptop to all areas that I would use the mobile at high-speed, loads of places worked and then order a batch of HD2's, the signals are so poor on the HD2 that made me anoyed.
I do have vodafone's suresignal which helps, but not the point.
I have wondered if the metal plate on the back is being a problem, but not tested any combinations yet
I've tried an inductive booster (~30cm aerial), definitely makes it better, but still worse than other phones.
With removing the metal cover and using the inductive aerial its a little better again, but still not as good as other phones.
Most the phones I have had have lost reception at the back of my local Coles, including a Blue Tick SE W705... But not the HD2... Not only do I keep signal I've had several calls there while shopping...
What phones do your mates have?
Maybe its a band issue...
Maybe because the OP is in a mine site? It may hinder the reception, I dunno.
I'm on a mine site with only a Next G tower, and its been specifically positioned so you can't get reception in certain parts.
However, standing side by side with a few other phones, I'll get nothing on the HD2 (sometimes even with the inductive aerial) and mates iPhone 3GS will have a bar, as will another mates Nokia 6120.
i'm like just like 12~15meters from the source but all i get is a tiny dot in the signal, is there an app that can boost the signal of the HD2?
i think I won't try to go the HardwareMod way if there are any
tnx
mengfei said:
i'm like just like 12~15meters from the source but all i get is a tiny dot in the signal, is there an app that can boost the signal of the HD2?
i think I won't try to go the HardwareMod way if there are any
tnx
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wifi is a two way system, you need both the router and the device to have higher power. If one is lower than the other it can only go at the speed of the slower device interfearence will also have an effect, Bluetooth devices, microwaves, power lines, wireless video cameras, hell, most of the wireless gear you can buy uses similar frequencies sooo. However, the big question is why you dont get a reasonable signal 14 meters away, soo, whats between you an the router?
in answer to your question, no, however the HD2 does support 802.11N which on paper should have a stronger signal, if your router supports N then enable it on your device and router and see if thats better, but my money is still on something stuck in the middle thats screwing with the signal
edit, uping the wattage is unlikey to be possible, and would generate significant heat and draw more power,as well as poentially being illegal, hardware mods may be possible but unless you can check out the radio ROM i doubt you'll be able to see whats possible, if anything, in a software sense.
Some hd2s have a hardware defect where all the wifi signals are lower than normal
Really depends what's in those 12 to 15 metres! At home, I struggle being ~2 metres away from my router, but there are 2 walls and the stairs in between. You could try moving your router or setting up another access point.
my wifi worked perfect for two weeks, then the signal got weak, stumped.
thanks for your inputs guys, yes there are walls in our office & i guess our MIS has really limited the transmitting power just in the display room coz even when i'm at the door of that room I only get two bar.