Fitting an Oyster Card inside my Vario II? - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

Right, I got my Vario II a couple of days ago. Its great, but I was wondering something - could I cut to fit my Oyster card to sit underneath the battery cover? Anyone tried this? Does anyone know how much I can trim off of the card? Would be great to just get the phone out to swipe with!
Cheers
Chris

I can't even fit a spare 1Gb MicroSD under it without the cover bulging, so I doubt an Oyster card would fit without some major mod's. You can't trim much (if any) off it, the RF coils are pretty much all the way around the edges of the card. Great idea though!

I just put my Oyster card next to the SD spacer(don't have a Micro SD card yet) and they are about the same thickness. I thought it might be the case with the coils, which is pretty annoying as the card really isn't far off fitting in. Any ideas if there are any pics showing a kinda 'xray' of the Oyster?

haha, you copying the Japanese on this? They too have the equivalent of Oyster cards (Suica, much more advanced with online usage if you have a card reader attached to your computer) which can be integrated into their mobiles. In fact, I do wonder if the technology of the 2 systems are teh same
I'm sure there must be a way to cut up the oyster card so that only the data bit remains? Anyone got a spare fiver to dissect an oyster card?

Oyster is a standard Mifare card.
Although I've not seen "inside" the oyster - a mifare card has a coil slightly larger than the size of a 50p in the centre - with the chip either inside or outside of the coil.
N

Right fellows I have tried to search nearly an hour to find-out what’s & where the chip is inside the Oyster but no joy, finally I have tried one another card to just give it a try and I am sadly declaring that it is NOT possible at all to sandwich the oyster card between the battery & its cover (I have tried on my XDA-IIi -- Alpine), even though I have tried to press the cover so hard that the sliding latches could break in a split second. Check the pictures.
Sidd

So why would you want to take out your highly desirable phone in a crowded tube station?
Do you need the insurance money?
Maybe you could attach credit cards to a lanyard, hang them from the phone and have your PIN number tattooed to your forehead.

Anyway I am carrying my oyster in the card slot of my XDA-IIi's leather pouch and touching the pouch on the scanner every day, works fine for me.
I think this is more secure from the prying eyes and for the scratch protection of the device.
Sidd

i would say yes, with some modification. check out this link if you are still interested. I plan to do this for my Hero in the coming weeks
http://www.skeptobot.com/2008/05/time-lapse-vid-of-dissolving-oyster.html

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AARRGGHHH!! I've just lost my SD from my Exec

I've only had the Exec for a week and I've had to secure the SD card a few times where it's been accidentally been clicked out. I've just tried to save a doc and noticed that it's missing! :evil: :evil: :evil:
What a crud design. Surely there should be a cover over the memory card slot?
I do love my Exec, but right now I could launch it out the window!!! :evil:
Sorry, just had to vent!
BTW, great forum. Loads of useful info for a new user.
Tis a bad design.
I suggest a little 3M ghost cellotape over the slot. Keeps it in, dust out, and doesn't look to cr*p (it's transparent)
V
Hey Vijay,
I think you're right. I'll do that, just as soon as I get my new card. At least I've got a good excuse to get a 2gb card now. :wink:
Jud
Guys, this might be a problem in need of a good solution either way. Just looked into my slot (!) and there's a lot of dust. Although the slot looks enclosed internally, we had big problems with SPV phones getting dusty through open slots in the old days...
V
I've absolutely no problems with my Qtek 9000, the SD-card is firmly fitted within the device.
When I want to remove it I have to press firmly and push it back at least 1,5 mm so I'm not afraid of losing it.
Maybe it is a problem with your device?
vijay555 said:
Tis a bad design.
I suggest a little 3M ghost cellotape over the slot. Keeps it in, dust out, and doesn't look to cr*p (it's transparent)
V
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Or maybe this.
Just for my 1gb card protection and answering the phone like the xda2 ( without opening it).
Hye, don't get me wrong, I don't use this idea myself, because I switch SD and wireless (between my magician and universal).
But I think generally, a small rubber flap over the SD flap would have been a good design. I think the Orange models have this feature.
V
This happend to me days after I got mine. The problem is that the SD slot is on the bottom. You put it in a pocket that has something in it, coins keys postage stamps , and it depresses the SD card. You pull it out your pocket not realizing and the SD card falls out. :evil:
Cya
Stot

MicroSD card slot

Hi
I took out the dummy SD card in the slot by the usual methods of gently pushing and it pops out, I then inserted (the correct way round) my new 2Gb card which sounded to click in place correctly although it is now stuck and doesnt pop out the same way the dummy one did (I did not apply any hard pressure). I presume this isnt how its supposed to work and the mechanism has faulted, has anyone else had this problem?
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luppy said:
Hi
I took out the dummy SD card in the slot by the usual methods of gently pushing and it pops out, I then inserted (the correct way round) my new 2Gb card which sounded to click in place correctly although it is now stuck and doesnt pop out the same way the dummy one did (I did not apply any hard pressure). I presume this isnt how its supposed to work and the mechanism has faulted, has anyone else had this problem?
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Vario II
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did you insert the microSD with contacts upside?
I had a similar problem when I first inserted a brand new A-Data 2GB MicroSD. But I've managed to take it back finally, gently pushing and popping it in and out. Then I've found superfluous plastic on the card, removed it, and since then there are no problems. So don't worry about the slot itself until you're sure it is broken
I am having the same problem. I am sure it is in there correctly, as I can access it. However, I can't get it OUT. HELP!!
jeffreyj900 said:
I am having the same problem. I am sure it is in there correctly, as I can access it. However, I can't get it OUT. HELP!!
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If you put it the card in upside down it goes in crooked. If you force it you risk breaking the card.
If you push the card in all the way it clicks gently as it slips in then is retained. If you push the card gently with your fingernail it should go in slightly then pop out.
If you push it in and it goes in by a mm or so but doesn't pop out then something is holding it back. You can try with some needles or safety pins either side to try and ease the card out....
Good Luck. Scary when you've invested so much into these things when they break
HI,
I had / have the same problem with my new mda vario II. If you look under the battery next to the slot is a small white piece of plastic in a runner. If you gently push that outwards towards the edge of the phone the card will eject. Use a pin or a paper clip.
Could some explain where the excess plastic on the card is so i can fix my card.
Also i am using a Sandisk card if that make anydiff.
Dave
dmj1973 said:
HI,
I had / have the same problem with my new mda vario II. If you look under the battery next to the slot is a small white piece of plastic in a runner. If you gently push that outwards towards the edge of the phone the card will eject. Use a pin or a paper clip.
Could some explain where the excess plastic on the card is so i can fix my card.
Also i am using a Sandisk card if that make anydiff.
Dave
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Dave,
You are a VERY SMART man! I really appreciate that. Mine is a 2gb SanDisk as well. I have a Cingular 8525. I had it in the correct way, and was able to use the card just fine. It bothered me that I could not get it out though. I really appreciate the response! Oh... I removed the made in Tiawan sticker on the back of the card to see if that would help. It did not, but did expose some copper looking stuff like at the end of the card. No big deal
Jeff
Dead SanDisk.
I also had the problem of a stuck 2Gb Sandisk card in a Vario II.
The card was displaying the same problems described in Legolas's card fix thread, (files disappearing or innaccessable) so I was going to check it on my PC.
Unfortunately, in the process of gently persuading it to come out, I appear to have completely killed it! (Unrecognisable in phone, PC or camera.)
I'm going to try painting the contacts on the card with silver paint in case they're not making contact, but I don't fancy digging inside the phone to bend the contacts there.
Any thoughts anyone?
In the meantime I'll wait and see if the 4Gb card is compatible with the Hermes before I order a replacement.
Is this a problem with Sandisk cards, I wonder? Had no problems at all with a 1Gb Kinston card... pop in a new Sandisk 2Gb, and sticks. Didn't shave off any plastic though, just caught hold of the groove on the edge with a fingernail and pulled on it enough to seat it into the proper 'inserted' position.
After inserting it in the slot a few times, it seems to click into place as it should
@dmj1973: Have you updated the Wiki with the info on ejecting a stuck card? Would be useful to have it there, if it isn't already
dmj1973 said:
HI,
I had / have the same problem with my new mda vario II. If you look under the battery next to the slot is a small white piece of plastic in a runner. If you gently push that outwards towards the edge of the phone the card will eject. Use a pin or a paper clip.
Could some explain where the excess plastic on the card is so i can fix my card.
Also i am using a Sandisk card if that make anydiff.
Dave
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Excellent solution.
I've got a 2 gb SanDisk in a Vodafone 1605 with no insertion/removal problems.
(hee, in past life got quite adept at dismantling my iPaq 5555 to get stuck adapters out)
GG
Hi guys,
Just a quick update. I had a further look at my card. I also removed the "made in Taiwan" sticker. My card ejects and inserts fine now.
Your right about the "contacts" being exposed, though i suspect this won't matter too much as they are covered again once they are inserted into the phone.
I don't believe this to be a problem only with sandisk cards but i may be wrong.
Dave
it seems that im a lucky dog because i have never got this problem with my softbank device and kingmax 1g tfcard.
anyhow thx the info upstairs
dmj1973 you saved my day!
today my transcent 16gb microsd arrived. i took the (kind of useless) 128mb out of my acer m900, and suddenly i wasnt able to get either of my micro sd's back into the device! it always jammed half way in ... drove me ****ing crazy thinking my new pda already broke :/ wasted the half day beeing mad until i found this thread! i red until "battery" ... then instantly removed the cover/battery etc, and my cards no longer jammed! -can get them in&out gently again thx 2 you!
seaser

sd card door problem

The lower pin doesnt snap into place and if I press some on the top end of the door the lower end pops out easily. Is there a fix for that?
dunno but the sd card location is a pretty ****ty design.
i guess htc didnt want to have the same problem the ppc6700 had where the sd card would go flying out the phone randomly so on the touch they decided to bury it inside.
as for your original question, call htc they might offer some type of warranty if it's that bad. i usually rub my finger back and forth to push it into place. usually that method works if you're in bed too
SD card door
This has to be close to the WORST design ever, they certainly didn't make it easy. Couldn't they have a little slot on the outside where you push your stylus to release the micro SD?
In your situation you might need to use something like a bit of gum on the inside, sort of icky but, I can't see a way of replacing that tab thing.
After using a few different PPC's, I'll be honest, I don't mind it since I can throw my 8GB SDHC in this bad boy! All my music, a few movies, and a bunch of House.

SD Slot not locking card in

Think it may have gotten sand in during a trip to the beach, and now SD cards dont click into place, and the unit doesnt recognise them, i took the back off and cant see anything obvious or bent pins. Dont suppose anyone has any advice before i give up on it?
The locking mechanism for your card reader is a small spring that is attached to a metallic pin inside the card reader itself. The way it works, obviously, is it latches on the way in and lets go when the card is pushed again. Can be 2 things - either you pushed a card in with too much force and broke (disloged) the pin, or the spring became detached. The only way to fix it is by opening and re-assembling the card reader, however, the metallic outer cover is difficult to remove and place back, I suggest you discuss the matter with a technician.
i just ripped te whole locking mechanism away

SIM Hotswap

Hy,
I hotswaped my SIM card few times.
Went to Comm Manager, Phone OFF, take SIM out, put another one in, Phone ON...
I'm just curious if something could go wrong by swaping SIM this way, since it is a lot faster not waiting the device to reboot.
Cheers!
Hi
I am curious how you swap the sim without taking the battery out.
r
Andrew
Bend it over the battery with a toothpick/stylus or fingernail, then just slide it out. Its actually easy, and it saves time.
Yep its possible !
I would be wary of bending the metal sim retaining bracket though.
On my Kaiser I had to pack it out with a piece of paper to ensure the sim made good contact - and on that phone I hot swapped with no problems.
r
Andrew
I have been swapping sim cards quite a few times, I always use paper, the size of a sim card and leave it in inside the cover.
Very easy and the paper protects the battery and sim card from being scratched.

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