Hi there,
Is anyone using Windows Media Player to play music on their SD card ?
At first glance Windows Media Player seems great being able to sync with your playlists and have Album covers displayed on the player similar to an ipod. A2DP works and you can control music with AVRCP ..but.. It seems to be the most unreliable piece of software out there. From personal experience syncing seems to hang after 4-5 songs unless you tap the device screen. The song library on the SD card suddely disappears and you have to delete the MSMETDATA directory and the WMDRM directory on the card to be able to get WM player to find the files and add it back to the library.
So what other Players are people using instead?
Hmm, this may not be helpful to you, but I use WMP with no problems, BUT, I manually transfer my music to my SD card. I know there are other players out there that most people here like better than WMP, but for my purposes and what I do (listen to music on my SD card but no synching ever required, and also stream music/video from my home pc to my Tytn) WMP works more than fine for me. Even though the other players are hands-down more rich in features, I'd rather not use up precious storage space when WMP works great for me.
Sorry if that doesn't help, I know your question seemed to be more geared toward synching music. If you're synching DRM'ed music files, good luck, sometimes nothing can be more of a pain in the a**!
By the way, I'm assuming you're talking about version 10 of WMP as far as what you have on your desktop? Microsoft just announced today that WMP 11 is out of beta and is full release version now. It specifically talks about addressing issues with synching to Pocket PC in the description of the updates that have happened since it's first beta. Give it a shot.
Everyone complains about WMP on PPC or SP; but I love it. It does everything I need, sure it uses a lot of ram, but if I'm just listening to music, do I need it to do anything thing else?
All my music is mp4a. WMP won't stream mp4a out an A2DP connection.
I refuse to buy music from iTunes, so I don't have that problem
Yeah, but mine's got album art that gets displayed by CorePlayer
Does CorePlayer support AVRCP?
I use PocketPlayer to listen to music from the SD card without problem, although the interface can be a little 'laggy'. It plays gapless .ogg vorbis files so that is a major boon. I've tried PocketMusic which claims to have gapless but doesn't work correctly. WM10 is just too much of a pain in the ass when trying to load music, and has no EQ etc.
I do use WM10 for watching movies though (until Coreplayer gets divx/xvid support for the TyTN that is!). I have been playing mp4 films with some degree of success, however if I pause the film at any time the Audio disappears. I need to restart WM10 to get it working again. Very annoying!
My T-Mobile VARIO II together with Windows Media 11 and HP Bluetooth Stereo Headset (well I know there are better ones)
A Golden combination.
Stereo music easy sync and the best the Album art is also included when you sync via the Windows Media. Also I am using the Windows Media today plugin which was published somewhere here in the Hermes forum (it comes from the iMATE ROM) Perfect!!!!!!!!
The Windows Media Player eats up a lot of memory but I do not complain, even with other things running I seldom see my device having less than 17 MB of program memory .
A2DP and AVRCP work a treat without any tweaks.
For me Microsoft Rules!
And in regards to Apple, well I find it ancient that you have to convert files to different format if you want to use the songs on more devices. I mean guys if I rip my CD into iTunes then this is it only the iPOD can use it.
Anyhow when Zune is there then I am afraid Apple can kiss their arses goodbuy in regards to jhaving the majority of the market in hands.
P.S. BTW I also use my QTEK 8500 in the same setting and that is even more sweet then VARIO II because you can see everything without opening the device.
Sleuth,
WMP displays album art for all of my mp3's and wma's as well.
Churchill,
As much as I'd love to agree with you and see the Ipod get taken down by the Zune, I think it will be a cold day down south before that ever happens. Tech analysts the world around are predicting the Zune to be the biggest failure of Microsoft's ventures, ever. I hope I'm wrong, but as much as I hate the proprietary nature of Apple's music platform, the sheer style of the Ipod, IMHO, cannot be beat. And the new full touchscreen Ipod that is coming out will just re-solidify that.
Anyway, sorry to hijack... this thread is about Windows Media Player
stpete111!
I totally agree with you about the styling of the ipods, but as they say "looks might be deceiving" I mean Of course looks are important but if because of it I have to have less functionality or incovenience, man I would walk around with a brick around my neck
I agree totally. I'll just bet though that very few of the people that the Ipod has reeled in since 2001 will be pulled away from it by the Zune.
You should have had another choice for "don't use PPC for media" or something to that effect... I still say GET AN IPOD!!!!
I really think I'm the only one who absolutely hates everything that is Apple...
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Sleuth,
WMP displays album art for all of my mp3's and wma's as well.
Churchill,
As much as I'd love to agree with you and see the Ipod get taken down by the Zune, I think it will be a cold day down south before that ever happens. Tech analysts the world around are predicting the Zune to be the biggest failure of Microsoft's ventures, ever. I hope I'm wrong, but as much as I hate the proprietary nature of Apple's music platform, the sheer style of the Ipod, IMHO, cannot be beat. And the new full touchscreen Ipod that is coming out will just re-solidify that.
Anyway, sorry to hijack... this thread is about Windows Media Player
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I owned an ipod briefly and was so disappointed with the sound quality I took it back to the shop for a refund. I did some research and settled on iRiver in the end. Far better sound quality and styling than the ipod IMO.
I also personally don't think Zune will be a failure... People said xbox would be a failure, and to some degree it was (I read in the press they lost millions on it) but as that's just pocket change to Micro$oft they just come back again with something bigger and better, e.g. the xbox 360. And boy what a device that is. If the Zune loses money they'll just go back to the drawing board and make it better until it becomes a success. That's the great thing about having a bottomless pit of money.
I actually think the Zune sounds like a great device so far anyway - and with the Wifi option to share music with other people, how can they go wrong? Assuming they don't DRM sharing music files somehow. If they do some clever bugger will just create some custom firmware for it anyway... guess we'll have to wait and see!
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I really think I'm the only one who absolutely hates everything that is Apple...
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You're probably right!
Until iTunes runs on PPC (which I don't see happening anytime soon), there is no way I'd give up my iPod -- it simply sounds better and it's easier to use... imagine that!
Darkjedi - you are NOT the only one who hates everything that is Apple. I'm not saying that I hate everything Apple... I used to, then I saw the 24" Intel Core Duo Imac in CompUSA and almost sh** myself. Wow, what a friggin piece of equipment. And don't even get me going on their G5's and rumored Octocore sets coming out. BUT, I know a good number of people that DO hate everything Apple. Anyway, I just hate DRM and proprietary platforms, and while Microsoft bows to the RIAA with DRM just like Apple does, Apple's platform is much more restrictive, in my opinion.
Goesto11 - I definitely cannot argue with the fact that Itunes is about the easiest and best organized app to use for digital media, and, I had an Ipod Shuffle for a few months and I couldn't believe the sound quality coming from that thing. They definitely have that down.
goonerz - just so you know, there will be DRM imposed on the Wi-Fi sharing with the Zune. Once you share a song with someone, they can only listen to it 3 times, then they are given the choice to purchase the track (or more like the DRM key) or it gets deleted. I agree with you totally though, it likely won't be long until that's cracked. I of course would never condone stealing in any shape or form And trust me, if the Zune isn't a failure, I'll be the first to gladly eat my words. I truly hope that it is not.
Sorry, I know this thread has taken a left turn (or a hijack if you will) but I don't care... I love talking about this stuff
I love the look, design, and feel of the Zune, right down to the UI, but DRM is going to CRIPPLE the Zune, and people aren't going to like it at all.
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HTC phones have become more and more media oriented, and the blackstone, with an aestheticly appealing music player and 8 gb memcard enclosed, as well as a headphone jack, is definitely contending as an iPod replacement. However, a lot of people already have or have had iPods, and with all those playlists... well, there really isn't a good substitute. There are roundabout ways to transfer it all through WMP or other things, but nothing especially good.
I bring you Black Berry Media Sync, or Salling Media Sync Pro. Both sync just like an iPod. I'm not looking for something that's just as visually appealing, just for something with the same functionality. Anyway, since I can't code, I figured I might as well unleash the idea. I put it in the Blackstone forum because the Touch HD is definitely the most media oriented HTC so far.
Please, if anyone can code, this is a forum for ideas. I can't do much, but go ahead and try!
I second this request. It is the MAIN feature I miss from my iPhone.
I would add however that whatever the solution is that it works on a Mac too.
Windows media player together with ActiveSync or without it can sync media, except much better than iTunes in that it won't do the stupid renaming of files and your library will be accessible to any application including itunes. Apart from this, almost any media player for Windows can sync with external drives and devices. So I fail to see what you are complaining about. There's much more functionality available compared to ipod!
Musicfone is an interesting solution to sync with Itunes . I am using it for the podcasts and I am
Regards
Okay, musicfone seems nice, but I'm talking specifically Windows Media Player for WinMo. Probably the main focus isn't transferring music, as I can already do that by syncing iTunes with WMP and WMP with my phone with Active Sync, but instead translating iTunes playlists into WMP playlists. Good idea? Please, if anyone knows willing coders, ask.
Does anyone have any suggested techniques for copying MP3 or WMA files to the phone (SD or Internal memory)?
What I've discovered is that synching with Media Player will transfer over these hidden files (album art, desktop.ini, and folder.jpg). These hidden files seem to mess with the way the Sense music player is picking up the music and what ends up happening is that in the music players details view, it does indeed break up the artists and the albums etc. HOWEVER, in the default view (the one that shows the album covers) it doesn't know what to do and only shows you the album cover of the particular album you are listening too. There's no way to get to the other album without going into the details menu and selecting it from there.
Whew - SO, all that being said; what I found is that if I delete the album art, desktop.ini and folder.jpg files BEFORE manually dragging and dropping the music over to the phone it seems to resolve the problem.
So is there a more streamlined approach to doing this?
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yatman60 said:
Does anyone have any suggested techniques for copying MP3 or WMA files to the phone (SD or Internal memory)?
What I've discovered is that synching with Media Player will transfer over these hidden files (album art, desktop.ini, and folder.jpg). These hidden files seem to mess with the way the Sense music player is picking up the music and what ends up happening is that in the music players details view, it does indeed break up the artists and the albums etc. HOWEVER, in the default view (the one that shows the album covers) it doesn't know what to do and only shows you the album cover of the particular album you are listening too. There's no way to get to the other album without going into the details menu and selecting it from there.
Whew - SO, all that being said; what I found is that if I delete the album art, desktop.ini and folder.jpg files BEFORE manually dragging and dropping the music over to the phone it seems to resolve the problem.
So is there a more streamlined approach to doing this?
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Put your INC in DISK DRIVE mode and copy your files to the SD card using Windows Explorer. You can also take out the SD card, put it in a reader, plug that into your PC's card reader, and put the files there via Windows Explorer.
Of course, all this presupposes that your MP3 files are correct (e.g., their ID3 tags are correct; and the album art was already integrated).
I use Tunesync, there're also isyncr, doubletwist, websharing....
The thing I like about these sync software is that they put your music in a playlist, which all the players can see.
First thing I would do is ditch the default android player though and stay away from Music PlayerPro too (just a skinned default player-same options same problems).
I am using bTunes, I think it's already abandon by the developer, but since it works and I already paid for it so might as well.
I recommend Mort Player if you don't look at it too much, Man!..that UI is just plain Ugly.
DoubleTwist is great. It also syncs your videos as well. Best part is it only syncs what you want. You create playlists and it syncs based on their contents
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Thanks for the info everyone. I guess the bottom line is that music software on Android is still in infancy stages with a lot of options but nothing that really just stands out. I hate to admit it but looks like Apple has a (+) in this department for now. My Incredible is a filler phone to hold me over until with WINMO7 stuff starts to hit Verizon so just looking for the best combinations of software on this thing.
I'm totally new to Android but I would have thought that the folks over at Google would have taken the media experience a little more seriously and spent some time on those aspects out of the box.
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Thanks for the info everyone. I guess the bottom line is that music software on Android is still in infancy stages with a lot of options but nothing that really just stands out. I hate to admit it but looks like Apple has a (+) in this department for now. My Incredible is a filler phone to hold me over until with WINMO7 stuff starts to hit Verizon so just looking for the best combinations of software on this thing.
I'm totally new to Android but I would have thought that the folks over at Google would have taken the media experience a little more seriously and spent some time on those aspects out of the box.
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Google was doing fine, 2.1 was solid. It uses up battery like there's no tomorrow, but solid.
2.2 seem like it's coded by 5 year olds... in Mongolia...using Vtech's Vsmile system....during recess. Maybe that's why the battery last longer, nothing works. Could be a way to make us pay for third-party apps (free enterprise at work).
Bus, now that's just plan 'ol funny. Educational (for me) at the same time.
I use the free version of Media Monkey on my Win XP desktop and Meridian on my Dinc. Then I sync playlists (like I used to on my iPhone 3G). Works like a champ.
The iPhone is far superior in the music catagory (dsp, organization, genius) but u have to keep inmind it stemed from an ipod. That said the closest ive come to it is boomboxoid but its terribly slow and often unresponsive. Which is why i primarily use pandora now...an ipod like music player is the app i want most!
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The iPhone is far superior in the music catagory (dsp, organization, genius) but u have to keep inmind it stemed from an ipod. That said the closest ive come to it is boomboxoid but its terribly slow and often unresponsive. Which is why i primarily use pandora now...an ipod like music player is the app i want most!
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I've mentioned bTunes above. It's the exact replica of the iPhone/iPod player.
I took my PAYG Samsung Galaxy S II back to O2 (UK) for a refund today, after 2 days of use. Love the speed, thinness, screen quality and size. TouchWiz is dire - but can be replaced with Launcher Pro. I could not live with the fact that most of my music files came up with <unknown artist> and no cover art. I use DoubleTwist to synchronise (after a fashion!) iTunes playlists to my Android devices. The same music files that appear correctly on the Nexus S and the Xoom would not show the artist/cover art information on the SGS2. So I know the files are tagged correctly. I also tried a direct copy of music files from my iMac to the SGS2, but same issue. Tried the stock music app as well as DoubleTwist and the Samsung Music hub - the media details were missing whatever the player.
I have spent many hours getting my media files correctly tagged and cannot live with a device that ignores all my hard work. May seem a small point and I can't understand how this could happen.
Has anyone else experienced the same problem and is there a cure?
Did you try PowerAmp? That works perfectly fine...that scans all the tags and brings up the details. I never use the stock music player cos it's not that good imo.
Everything else sucks compared to PowerAmp.
I think Doubletwist was your problem, I've seen another user at Androidforums who had the same thing, his files were fine when he just sideloaded them.
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I think Doubletwist was your problem, I've seen another user at Androidforums who had the same thing, his files were fine when he just sideloaded them.
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I agree DoubleTwist is far from ideal, but it has worked OK to move music to the Nexus S and the Xoom - with all information complete. I also tried side-loading an album that showed with no artist information or cover art after the DoubleTwist sync and it made no difference. PowerAmp may be a good player on the device, but does it handle music transfer (from a Mac), as I need to move music in an iTunes playlist to my phones - too cumbersome to move files individually.
im using FLAC files with winamp and had no real issues, tho i did notice this morning that some tracks arent in the correct order but id have to check my tagging before i make assumtions
other than that not had one problem with them, you sure you didnt really want to take your phone back anyway seems a small matter to return such a nice phone for when it can probably be fixed
I'm not an iTunes user, so I don't know what the other softwares are, but I am aware there are several other options you could try to sync across from iTunes. Maybe give some others a try?
Found the following thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1062137&highlight=media
Seems that the SGS2 does not recognise artists (and presumably cover art) tags if the file is in M4a format. That would explain why some of my files were OK and others not. Most of my iTunes library is in M4a format, purchased from iTunes. Way too much work to convert everything to MP3 and no reason why this popular format is not supported, as it is supported on every other Android phone (including my Samsung Nexus S).
It was me that started that thread and I still have not found a solution, which is annoying, hopefully someone smarter than me will find an answer!
Just seams an odd thing as no other phone I've ever had has had this problem! And I'm not going to convert all my music either! Maybe someone will get the stock music app working?
It is really strange as I tried the Samsung Music Hub, the stock music player and DoubleTwist and they all could not read the tags. So it must be something that Samsung has done to the file format on this particular phone. I doubt it is an application fault, so it is up to Samsung to acknowledge and fix this oddity. I returned mine and will now wait for the HTC Sensation.
This is a MAJOR problem and if they want to avoid people returning their phones within 30 days, this needs to be fixed. If someone is coming from iPhone, they will be totally lost on how to get music to their phone. In reality, it would be via XBOX Music but the entire experience is horrid and let me explain:
No Real Way To Sync - Yes, you can use Windows Media Player but it will not sync ZunePass/XBOX Music Pass songs.
Album Art - Spotty at best if you use the Windows Phone app to transfer music. If you download straight your phone, it seems to be OK
XBOX Music Cloud - What a mess! What is this info anyway? It isn't like Google Music and all of our music. It seems to be metadata from the main PC or Zune Software. I'd love to sync playlists and music between my devices but this thing is an absolute mess. Right now, I have this turned off on my devices.
Playlist Creation - Not only can't we sync our playlists from our PC (Zune Playlists) but you can't create one on the phone. And I once tried to create a playlist (streaming) so it would sync between my devices and it never showed up. Just the aforementioned mess in the music cloud shows up.
Delete Music Off Of Phone - Is it me or is there no way to remove music off the phone from the phone itself?
This is not a gripe session but legimtate broken things that need to get fixed. At the VERY least, get a fix for Windows Media Player so it can sync ZunePass songs!
Are you using windows 8? Its flawless on Windows 8
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Are you using windows 8? Its flawless on Windows 8
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I just discovered the DESKTOP version of the phone software...not perfect but MILES better...
I don't want to throw this thread off track, but I have GB upon GB of music in flac and mp4 music. Stuff not purchased on Xbox or other, by and large it's ripped from my disk collection. Does all that sync if I put it on my Win8 desktop AND play properly? Oh, I have some ogg stuff too... was deciding on what format to store my music in
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I just discovered the DESKTOP version of the phone software...not perfect but MILES better...
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What desktop version? Is this the full Zune replacement available online?
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I don't want to throw this thread off track, but I have GB upon GB of music in flac and mp4 music. Stuff not purchased on Xbox or other, by and large it's ripped from my disk collection. Does all that sync if I put it on my Win8 desktop AND play properly? Oh, I have some ogg stuff too... was deciding on what format to store my music in
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You can add mp3 files from any location and they will play properly. You can also search for he album art but I do agree that the new metro software is nothing on Zune. Zune was the best media software ever!
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I just discovered the DESKTOP version of the phone software...not perfect but MILES better...
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Can you explain this a bit please? Are you referring to Windows 8, or Windows Phone 8?
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There is also a glitch. You cannot download music to your phone when it is already in your "Cloud collection". So I'm stuck with streaming everything for now....
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Can you explain this a bit please? Are you referring to Windows 8, or Windows Phone 8?
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He means this...http://www.windowsphone.com/en-GH/how-to/wp8/windows-phone-app-for-desktop
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There is also a glitch. You cannot download music to your phone when it is already in your "Cloud collection". So I'm stuck with streaming everything for now....
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you can download cloud music, longpress on it and select download, also when you are in a song list, there is the first option for multiselect at the bottom, you can then check whatever you want and download it all at once.
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This is a MAJOR problem and if they want to avoid people returning their phones within 30 days, this needs to be fixed. If someone is coming from iPhone, they will be totally lost on how to get music to their phone. In reality, it would be via XBOX Music but the entire experience is horrid and let me explain:
No Real Way To Sync - Yes, you can use Windows Media Player but it will not sync ZunePass/XBOX Music Pass songs.
Album Art - Spotty at best if you use the Windows Phone app to transfer music. If you download straight your phone, it seems to be OK
XBOX Music Cloud - What a mess! What is this info anyway? It isn't like Google Music and all of our music. It seems to be metadata from the main PC or Zune Software. I'd love to sync playlists and music between my devices but this thing is an absolute mess. Right now, I have this turned off on my devices.
Playlist Creation - Not only can't we sync our playlists from our PC (Zune Playlists) but you can't create one on the phone. And I once tried to create a playlist (streaming) so it would sync between my devices and it never showed up. Just the aforementioned mess in the music cloud shows up.
Delete Music Off Of Phone - Is it me or is there no way to remove music off the phone from the phone itself?
This is not a gripe session but legimtate broken things that need to get fixed. At the VERY least, get a fix for Windows Media Player so it can sync ZunePass songs!
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to delete music off the phone longpress the song (or use the multiselect button and check songs, keep in mind, the multiselect icon only shows up in song view) and then choose delete or the trash can.
i agree the software needs to improve a lot, i'm quite surprised that it was released in a state that isn't even at parity with the zune software. it does seem like they are trying to push people away from using sync software and more into using cloud services to do it all though, but they need to work on UX a bit more before that is going to be simple for new users.
Since I have two laptops and a surface with the same music. Each day i am seeing music show up on phone. Since I don't have either one up for very long I think it will take awhile. I may just have to turn off standby this weekend and let it sync.
I got the lumia 920, and I love it. However, the music sync is SO bad I am considering bringing it back and using my lumia 900 agian. Its absolutely awful. There is no way to rate music, no auto playlists, and about 97% of the time I try to sync music using the godawful windows phone desktop application it hangs trying to remove music. The only way to keep the process going properly is keeping my phone screen awake, awesome.
I am a long time zune user, which I beleive to be the best music device and desktop software made, and I cannot believe that instead of just changing the name of the zune software they ditched it altogether, and all functionality with it.
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I got the lumia 920, and I love it. However, the music sync is SO bad I am considering bringing it back and using my lumia 900 agian. Its absolutely awful. There is no way to rate music, no auto playlists, and about 97% of the time I try to sync music using the godawful windows phone desktop application it hangs trying to remove music. The only way to keep the process going properly is keeping my phone screen awake, awesome.
I am a long time zune user, which I beleive to be the best music device and desktop software made, and I cannot believe that instead of just changing the name of the zune software they ditched it altogether, and all functionality with it.
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cannot agree more with you. Let's hope they change it for the better.
The Windows Phone 8 desktop app does NOT work at all on my HP laptop running Windows 7 x64. Every time I plug my phone in, an error message pops up on my laptop screen saying, "Windows Phone has stopped working". It gives me the option to, "Check online for a solution and close the program" - that does NOTHING! If I click on that, it seems to be searching for a bit, then just goes away by itself, never offering me a solution to the problem.
The only way I can put music on my phone is to drag-and-drop through Windows Explorer, and THAT'S a disaster, too! Let's say I have 2 CD's/albums from The Airborne Toxic Event; 1 shows up on the phone listed (under Artists) as "The Airborne Toxic Event". The other shows up as "Airborne Toxic Event, The", EVEN THOUGH THE ID TAG INFO IS ALL CORRECT!! I'd say 80% of the artists I added to my phone last night (about 50 total) refuse to download any artist background image; the background is just gray. Also, even though I added album art for EACH album as I put them on the phone, some refuse to display album art. Others show it O.K. One track, that is playing fine tonight, the phone told me last night, "Windows Phone cannot play this file type (the file is in WMA format)!!!!
This is a COMPLETE DISASTER, and I'm probably taking my Lumia 920 back to AT&T this weekend for a refund.
Oh, yeah, my previous phone, which I still have, is a Samsung Galaxy S III Android phone, and NONE of the music playing software on that phone had any problem playing the EXACT SAME music files I tranferred to my WP8 handset, and My Samsung Focus & Focus S WP7.5 hansets also had NO problem with these same music files!
Rename the Zune software and bring it back so we can use it with WP8 handsets, PLEASE!!!
What an EPIC fail!!!
Dennis
The windows phone application for windows works the first time it syncs, then it hangs on every subsequent sync unless I remove all the music from the device and start over. It hangs while trying to delete music. Awful.
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The windows phone application for windows works the first time it syncs, then it hangs on every subsequent sync unless I remove all the music from the device and start over. It hangs while trying to delete music. Awful.
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Use Windows Media Player. It has been working flawless for me, and until MS beef up there current solution for WP8 users, I will not be using it.
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Use Windows Media Player. It has been working flawless for me, and until MS beef up there current solution for WP8 users, I will not be using it.
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Windows Media Player may work fine for getting music on the phone (drag-and-drop works just as well, too), but it's what the Xbox music service does to the songs AFTER they're on the phone that causes the bigger problems, at least for me. It removes metadata (tag info) and replaces it with what it thinks is correct, causing some of my albums/CD's to be split into two separate albums/CD's. For example, I put (4) tracks from Beyonce's "B'day [Deluxe Edition] [Disc 1]" on my phone. Xbox music service split (2) of those tracks into a separate CD titled "B'day [Deluxe Edition] Disc 1", that shows NO album art! It did the same to "Yourself or Someone Like You", by Mathchbox Twenty - it split (1) track off into a separate "Yourself or Someone Like You" CD by Matchbox 20 (it changed the artist from Matchbox Twenty to Matchbox 20 for just this one track)! I have a CD by Ned's Atomic Dustbin for the single of "Not Sleeping Around"; I verify that, after I copy it over to the phone, it is displaying album art - within 15 minutes, the album art disappears! I've tried setting the music files to "read-only" before copying, but that somehow gets changed when being copied over to the phone, and the "read-only" option, when viewing the file properties on the phone, is grayed out.
I also frequently get an error message when trying to play songs on the phone that says, "Sorry, we can't play this type of file on your phone", even though the file is either in .mp3 or .wma format & it STARTS PLAYING BY ITSELF!!
WTF?!! Why did Microsoft scew this up SO bad?!! WP7/7.5 handled all this flawlessly! I'm seriously considering returning my Nokia Lumia 920 to AT&T over this specific issue!
Dennis
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Use Windows Media Player. It has been working flawless for me, and until MS beef up there current solution for WP8 users, I will not be using it.
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I can't get WMP11 recognize my 920 as a device to sync.
But the Windows Phone Software works fine on Windows 7.
I think i am going up to Windows 8 Pro right after i got my SSD. Because the SDK doesn't work on Windows 7 either.
BTW: yep, sync music on Windows 7 for the WP8 is a little bit troublesome. There are far more less convenient than the Zune Software.
I dont know how it works on Windows 8 yet.
I too am amazed at how bad the software for PC actually is, I have no need for cloud storage so that isn't an issue but album art has been replaced on most songs by Xbox music and the desktop client which I am sure is a Beta is next to useless, I am using Win7x64 so maybe an upgrade to win8 will help?
I managed to finally drag & drop my music to the device which did do the trick, And am kind of happy that option was available, I preferred the Zune client to be honest for stability and ease of use and hope they can soon sort things out so they are a bit more stable.,
I guess the lesson to be learnt here is not to rush out and buy on first release, Looking back on WP7 when you compare the first release to Mango that should have been warning enough, No doubt there are nerds somewhere in MS working their asses off to fix this :laugh: Yeah right.......
AndyFZ1S said:
album art has been replaced on most songs by Xbox music and the desktop client which I am sure is a Beta is next to useless
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This.
...and there's no way to edit the metadata manually like in the Zune software. Really pissing me off.
Since Zune is now useless for syncing in WP8, I've decided the time has probably come to uninstall it. However, I'm loathe to let the iTunes virus onto my PC after a bad experience several years ago, so what is the best alternative music player/manager?
What are you using?
I still use Zune because I like the interface but you can also still sync with Windows Media Player.
winamp,foobar, mediamonkey or VLC - take a pick
but i tend to just listen to xbox music and dont use the local storage anymore.. shame actually
but smart dj is just a nice random mode
I agree with sinister1, Zune is amazing. Still using it.
I use Windows media player and Zune, but Zune is much better sounding than WMP.
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Winamp has been my choice for the last several years, but I recently decided to try foobar2000. Foobar...... lacks a lot of functionality in comparison to winamp. Still, the majority of Winamp's addons haven't seen updating for over 5 years (literally), and winamp being owned by AOL has some downsides (the installer tries to give you a lot of ****).
I don't think I'm going back to winamp, but that decision is more of a vague whim, since foobar can be very.... patchy. The modular nature of foobar means UI functionality across the program is incredibly inconsistent, even among the default components! People keep assuring me "everything is configurable" but that just doesn't seem to be true, short of writing a component from scratch to make it work the way I want. Still I've managed to overlook these flaws and settle in comfortably, I think.
Mediamonkey is fat. That might not matter on a newer computer, but I'm biased against software with inefficient (bad) programming. (Full disclosure, Winamp's modern skinning engine is fat- don't install that, it's optional, and get an older "classic" skin).
I found this app named MusicBee. I'm in the process of syncing all my music as far as tags once I'm done I will wipe my phone and try to sync using it, I will keep you posted; I have a very large collection so it might be a while.
Too bad someone can't hack Zune and make it wokr for WP8 just like they made WMDC work for WP7.
I used the Windows Phone 8 apps (both metro and desktop versions) and music syncing was pathetic. It also took up too much space and had no playlists. I removed all music from my L920 and set up sync with Windows Media Player. I got all my songs and playlists and increased my available storage by about 10GB. The only downsides are that I don't prefer WMP over Zune (who would??) and now nokias Rinstone Maker doesn't recognize pretty much all the songs as they are WMA and not MP3
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