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I upgraded to 2.24 Tmobile official beta ROM. and it seems that I cant get phone calls while im streaming thru EDGE/GPRS not just streaming also like browsing and stuff, phone calls go straight to voicemail, is this how it was on 2.17 or 2.21 ? Because I tought it worked before !!!! Can anyone confirm please...
Can some one please verify regarding this, can some one just try browsing somethign and call them selvs and see if it goes straight tru to voice mail on a diffrent ROM please....
Yozh:
I had an 8125 on the Cingular network running Summiter's 2.17 ROM, and the phone call always interrupted any web surfing I was doing, and/or disconnected IM+ (which uses gprs/edge).
That phone broke (d'oh!) and I got another one that was running the stock ROM. Same thing.
I now have a new 8125, and just upgraded to Summiter's 2.3 ROM (thank you Summiter!), and the phone acts the same.
I've never experienced an issue where the phone call goes directly to voice mail... that I know of.
Very strange, I tought thats what mine used to do before the 2.24 ROM it used to interupt the GPRS session for a phone call. ANyone else that can confirm that this is just an issue in 2.24 ROM ?
Anyone else that can confirm this ?
Or maybe there is a registry setting for this ?
I have always thought it depends on what your gprs connection was doing.
if it is connected but idle, then calls will come through. if it is connected and in use, downloading a file or something, then it won't be interupted by a call.
as far as I know, this is the way gprs was desgined to work. can anyone confirm?
I dont want to go back to the 2.17 ROM just to test this. But it looks like no one out there would do it for me .... I could of sworn that it worked before..
yozh;
I have the same ROM and I DO get my calls, they DONT go to voicemail.
It's not the rom. Its the way GPRS works. Try to download constant packets of data(like streaming a high quality video) ON ANY ROM and try calling you at the same time. it can and it WILL go to voice mail.
That being said, sometimes you might be downloading a lot of data and you phone MIGHT STILL RING! This is because GPRS uses multiple different channels than then one used for voice, but this feature is just a plus, its not something you can always rely on.
Just something i wanted to add: This rom had brought me incredible reliabily on my GPRS connection and, paired with the cingular radio rom, its close to perfect for me. Maybe because with this rom the GPRS is always working full-speed and optimized, pushing the MOST of data it can, calls might be going to voicemail more often than normal? Its just a thought and maybe its a stupid one, but on my understanding the more data its pushing, the greater the chances it will go to voicemail.
Hope that helps.
Strange because MDA is class B device and class b device should
Class B
Class B mobile phones can be attached to both GPRS and GSM services, using one service at a time. Class B enables making or receiving a voice call, or sending/receiving an SMS during a GPRS connection. During voice calls or SMS, GPRS services are suspended and then resumed automatically after the call or SMS session has ended.
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thats from http://www.gsmworld.com/technology/gprs/class.shtml
So thats kinda strange Im telling you Tmobile is doing something, I need someone with 2.17 or 2.21 to check this please[/quote]
Similar problem with 2.25
I just updated to 2.25 ROM and have a similar problem. In this case, it seems that once I make ANY GPRS connection, the voice channel no longer works. Outgoing call just don't connect and incoming are directed to voicemail. It still indicates a strong signal to the Cingular netowrk, and data apps still work (for example, the voicemail notifications and email keep coming in). I have to stop the data comm and then cycle the phone (voice) connection in order to get voice back.
Any suggestions? Cingular is advising me to downgrade back to 1.8 ROM - but they don't even have a link to get it!
What programs are you using?
See this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=53432
It documents the problem...
Hi Guys,
Since a week or so calls are at random directly forwarded to my voicemail.
I have checked my "call forwarding" settings and they are normal:
Forwarding is enabled if I don`t answer after 25 sec, when I`m unavailable and when I`m busy. After a couple of hours I recieve a sms that I have messages waiting in my voicemail. This happens totally at random because a couple of hours later the same people can reach me without any problems
I am assuming that my phone sometimes loses connection to the T-mobile network and so I am unavailable and the call is forwarded to my voicemail. The reason why I assume this is because don`t see a missed call on my phone. I have never had problems with dropped connections nor noticed that I connection is lost. .
Only thing that I recently changed was upgrading my rom to Molski.Biz Rom (RUU_Molski.Biz_226102_22610105_022511_WWE ) on 2 october but I only noticed the problems about a week, so I don`t know if it can be related. I also upgraded to the 2.47.11 radio ROM to see if it would help but without difference so I reverted back tot the 2.25.11 radio ROM
I called T-mobile and they told me it must be related to the phone and couldn`t be a problem with different carriers nor the T-mobile network.
Has anyone have had these problems? or knows a sollution to this?
Greetings,
Averixcool
Edit: running software: Agenda Fusion, Photo contacts and handyswitcher and I don`t have GPRS programs running.
I guess you are losing the connection. You should look for some sort of a pattern? What seems to be random may not be random at all.
Also... You still get SMS for voicemail notification? That's some deja vu...
What software do you have installed that might go out to the internet from time to time? Do you have an email account setup where it will check every 15 minutes?
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What software do you have installed that might go out to the internet from time to time? Do you have an email account setup where it will check every 15 minutes?
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I don`t have any software that is using the internet on my phone! So that can`t be the problem.
I haven't noticed any pattern in the forwarding or losing my connection. It is happening on different times of the day. It always happens in standby modus of the phone but I do recieve the SMS for voicemail notification but sometimes 3 hours later, so it could be that the connection was lost during 3 hours?
I think i have the same problem. It happens not very often (i think) but its very annoying.
I also found out that my problem is only related to inbound calls.
Cos I was able to place an outbound call with my wizard but i couldnt call it using another phone. It just switches immediatly to voicemail and indeed after a few hours the inbound connection comes back up again and the voicemail-notices start coming in.
I've had numerous calls with the T-mobile helpdesk about this and they also said it was probably phone-related.
Not looking forward to send it off and live without my baby for a cple of weeks
Oh by the way I have rom:2.26.10.2 WWE
I also noticed today that`s only inbound! Today a buddy of mine was calling me while in front of the door. So we tested it right away. He called me again and I also called with my home phone to my mobile and both times directly the voicemail.
Strange thing was that the whole time I had connection with the T-Mobile network with 4 stripes network strength, so the connection wasn`t lost but I was unreachable. At the same I could place a outbound call without any problems.
Is this still phone related?
Full strength connection with T-Mobile network and only inbound calls blocked, outbound no problemo. I don`t get it anymore!
maybe try a different radio and see if that helps the problem.
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......I also upgraded to the 2.47.11 radio ROM to see if it would help but without difference so I reverted back tot the 2.25.11 radio ROM.....
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The threadstarter allready tried another radio, i don't know if there is newer one. I would gladly give it a try.
My wild stab in the dark would be that something goes wrong when moving to another gsm-antenna (location)
Somehow the phone is not reporting as available or something.(i have no clue about gsm technology so never mind )
Heej there,
got exactly the same thing over here since I've upgraded to Molski's Rom 2261002nld. Also updated to radio 24711 but it didnt change.
I'm now flashing it back to tmob 2210205 to see if it's ok now....
I'll keep you informed...
cu Bol
Is this just a Dutch problem? I'm thinking it is more of a network problem despite what T-mobile.NL are saying.
Does the problem occur at peak times?
I have a similar problem. I was getting Voicemail notifications without the phone even ringing. Then i ran into someone and they said they called several times and i never answered. So I called my own phone and takes my phone 4 or 5 beeps for it to ring.
I'm on shogun and faria's cingular 2.26rom i also have photo contacts on.
Problem Solved
I had the same problem (also with T-Mobile Dutch by the way) with the 2.26 rom until I downgraded my radio rom to 02.07.10. All is fine now.
I also have the same problem. Using 2.26 dutch rom
same problem
I have the same problem after installing the new Molski 2.26.10.2 AKU2.3 Rom.
I have the same problem
t-mo 2.26 WWE
Same problem here only with Jester rom Aku 2.3 and T-mobile dutch
Well, I still have the problem about every other day.
And yes. I'm in the Netherlands.
I'm considering returnung it to t-mobile because i cannot trust my phone anymore. It sucks
Hello,
As far as I know (and our Orange's contact has confirmed us this issue), active GPRS data connections make incoming voicecalls to be redirected to voicemail. This doesn't happen if your device is GPRS-attached to the network but not trasmitting/receiving any data at the moment the call is produced.
This effect has become more noticeable since new devices implement DirectPush, so they are permanently updating info from the exchange server.
I'm sorry, the only solution I know for this is to use a 3G/UMTS device, which enables true simultaneous voice and data connections.
Regards,
CATuser
Barcelona
Got the same problem. It seems only to occur on the T-mobile Dutch network. I'm running Molski's rom and tried both 2.25.11 and 2.47.11. I don't think it's a gprs issue, because there was no gprs connection when it happened. Also no active programs that use gprs.
Didn't have the problem at all with the latest dutch T-mobile rom.
I just flashed my radio rom back to 2.19.11 from the original rom. I hope it will solve the issue.
Rectification
Hello. I asked again my Orange's contact person and it seems that what I said wasn't very precise in the sense that voicecall redirections occur only under specific circumstances like channel congestion on the network's cell. Normally voice has priority over GPRS and it can 'steal' radio channels from active data sessions so the bandwidth is reduced. But it shouldn't allow to steal the last channel if it was busy. Maybe in this case an incoming call could be redirected to voicemail.
Of course, a problem with a specific rom version and its radio interface could be a problem. I'm sorry if my contribution should blurr your insight into the problem.
I will ask network engineers to learn more details about this issue.
Bye,
CATuser
Barcelona
Hi all
I am wondering about the purchase of a Trinity. Someone, on an italian forum, has posted the problem of incoming calls lost (the caller receives a busy line signal or the phone results unreachable) while the phone has a data connection active (apparently only an HSDPA one). Has any one observed a similar problem ?
Thank you everyone.
hawk971 said:
Hi all
I am wondering about the purchase of a Trinity. Someone, on an italian forum, has posted the problem of incoming calls lost (the caller receives a busy line signal or the phone results unreachable) while the phone has a data connection active (apparently only an HSDPA one). Has any one observed a similar problem ?
Thank you everyone.
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This is standard behaviour when transferring data over 2G GPRS. It should not happen on 3G. I have received phone calls while using 3G data and the phone rang as normal.... I can't report about HSDPA (is there a simple way to check if HSDPA is actually used?)
anonimo said:
This is standard behaviour when transferring data over 2G GPRS...
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No, it's not, voice calls always have higher priority even in 2G networks.
Can someone else confirm this issue with Trinity?
banesi said:
No, it's not, voice calls always have higher priority even in 2G networks.
Can someone else confirm this issue with Trinity?
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Well.... it's the third time in a few days in this forum that I post something and I am told that I am wrong. The previous two times in the end I happened to be right, so according to statistics I should indeed be wrong this time!
However I think I might be right this time too! The standard behaviour with GPRS sessions is that they are interrupted when they are idle and an incoming call is received; if data is being transferred then the phone will be busy.
Obviously for outgoing calls the phone will stop the data session when you want to make a call.
(All this for GPRS on GSM)
PS: You don't believe me try to use a GSM phone as GPRS modem for a PC, start a large file transfer and try to receive a call.
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PS: You don't believe me try to use a GSM phone as GPRS modem for a PC, start a large file transfer and try to receive a call.
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Well, since I use GPRS internet for more than 3 years actively and have changed a couple of phones already I must say that GPRS system is projected in a way that voice calls are priority in any situation. In this years I have found that sometimes my phone is not reachable when I'm connected to a GPRS but that percentage is rather small, could be some other problems related to a base stations.
In your case I would think of contacting your operator, change phone or just change a carrier, being unreachable during GPRS sessions is something that I will characterized as bug, at least. NHF
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In your case I would think of contacting your operator, change phone or just change a carrier, being unreachable during GPRS sessions is something that I will characterized as bug, at least. NHF
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You are right. It was a very common bug in the early Class B GPRS phones and I thought it was supposed to be like that, but indeed even a class B device should suspend the data session and ring when a call is received.
However I am reading in other forums that this is now happening again with HSDPA.... the joy of early adoption
anonimo said:
You are right. It was a very common bug in the early Class B GPRS phones and I thought it was supposed to be like that, but indeed even a class B device should suspend the data session and ring when a call is received.
However I am reading in other forums that this is now happening again with HSDPA.... the joy of early adoption
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I had some strange behavior like a busy signal when I had my phone set to 3G only, but I think it was because of marginal reception. I changed the frequencies to automatic and haven't had any problems since.
hawk971 said:
Hi all
I am wondering about the purchase of a Trinity. Someone, on an italian forum, has posted the problem of incoming calls lost (the caller receives a busy line signal or the phone results unreachable) while the phone has a data connection active (apparently only an HSDPA one). Has any one observed a similar problem ?
Thank you everyone.
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Hello hawk971,
I have the exact same experience while being persistently connected on the Swedish HSDPA network (Hi3G) I cannot receive or even make calls, most of the time. It's like i can sometimes manage to "slip through" with a call, and even an incoming call can get through if i'm lucky. I have figured out that if i end the data connection and make the call, i can re-login with the connection and keep babbling on the phone.
The problem started to appear right after we moved to a different area where HSDPA is deployed, at first the problem was very sproadic, but now the network is growing, so does the blocked calls.
Luckily i get an sms from the 3 network saying that someone has tried to call without leaving a message, otherwise i'd be clueless.
I have considered contacting 3 operator to discuss this, but i reckon i might loose the HSDPA access then because i have only 3G subscription but somehow my phone (which is purchased without operator lock and not from 3) snaps right onto the HSDPA access nevertheless. I have a consistent 1Mbits/s DOWNLINK and 350kbits/s UPLINK connection while running TPTEST on the laptop and using the P3600 with internet sharing and USB-cable.
I so would like to be able to stay on the HSDPA but right now i am considering to drop the high-speed since the phone part is basically rendered useless. I am also using GpsGate in the car, so my internet is always on, transmitting position, i guess that makes the problem worse. I might have to drop that...
I had a friend told me he had the same problem with TyTn and Hi3G here in Gothenburg. That makes me think that there's no particular problem with my phone. Rather it's a network problem that they yet have to solve.
Anyway, that's a long post!
P.S. Does anyone know how i can disable/enable HSDPA on the P3600 easily?
Cheerio
just remove link to "enableHSDPA.exe" in \windows\startup folder and soft reset you phone.
I can't find this file (enableHSDPA.exe) anywhere in my P3600....
Bump!
SecureGSM can you please elaborate a bit on this .exe file. I have a standard HTC P3600 and I don't see this file anywhere in the file system.
i'd like to know how i enable HSDPA on my HTC P3600. has anyone had success doing so?
try the fit4cat regedit program
MontAlbert said:
try the fit4cat regedit program
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I recently installed the fit4can or HTweakC as it is now called from here
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Registry. It allows you to turn off HSDPA and do other tweaks to your Trinity. No harm is done since you can turn the HSDPA back on again anytime. Since I upgraded to the new 1.38 Radio, I was picking up HSDPA all the time at home, and every time my phone was auto checking email I'd miss calls. This HSDPA "feature" needs a little work.
Hi
Ive had my Advantage for two days now, and i have missed 16 calls, even though the phone is on and has full signal, after playing around this afternoon it appears to be if there is a data connection active (GPRS) ie active sync live search maps, remote desktop calls get rejected.
Ive had an JasJar for the past year and never seemed to get the issue with that, and im using the same SIM / Network / Number i was before.
Does anyone have any ideas how to get the phone to pause the data connection so the phone can ring?
Does anyone else have the same issue?
Regards
Ben
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Hi
Ive had my Advantage for two days now, and i have missed 16 calls, even though the phone is on and has full signal, after playing around this afternoon it appears to be if there is a data connection active (GPRS) ie active sync live search maps, remote desktop calls get rejected.
Ive had an JasJar for the past year and never seemed to get the issue with that, and im using the same SIM / Network / Number i was before.
Does anyone have any ideas how to get the phone to pause the data connection so the phone can ring?
Does anyone else have the same issue?
Regards
Ben
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you don't happens to be using Vodafone do you? If so i know exactly what is going on.....
Nope
No, i am on tmobile UK, what i don't get is that i works fine if i swap the sim back to my JasJar.
Ben
I miss calls all the time, about 70% of my calls fail for some reason or another.
T-Mobile Suck. I never had this much trouble with O2.
I have done experiments where somebody stood next to me calls me, and gets "the number you are calling is not available" while my phone, next to them is turned on with full battery and signal...
Even outgoing calls fail randomly, just says "calling" for ages then stops for no reason.
Ive had not trouble with tmobile since i have been with them (over 18 months) until i got the advantage, ive cloned every single setting i can from my jasjar and still no look, its a shame as looks like im going to have to disable push email!
myrapid said:
Ive had not trouble with tmobile since i have been with them (over 18 months) until i got the advantage, ive cloned every single setting i can from my jasjar and still no look, its a shame as looks like im going to have to disable push email!
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that is strange, mine one now works perfectly, so when you miss your call, are you on 3.5G( HSDPA ) network or are you on GPRS?
wu5262 said:
that is strange, mine one now works perfectly, so when you miss your call, are you on 3.5G( HSDPA ) network or are you on GPRS?
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Standard GPRS, it only happens when there is a contasnt data flow if it is just connected and the connection is not being used it calls in fine.
EG if i use remote desktop / terminal services over GPRS then call the advtange at the same time it goes to answer phone, although it does take around 10 seconds before it does though but doesn't ring, like it is looking for a signal/trying to connect.
myrapid said:
Standard GPRS, it only happens when there is a contasnt data flow if it is just connected and the connection is not being used it calls in fine.
EG if i use remote desktop / terminal services over GPRS then call the advtange at the same time it goes to answer phone, although it does take around 10 seconds before it does though but doesn't ring, like it is looking for a signal/trying to connect.
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may i ask is there any reason why you are not using 3G? GPRS tend to have this problem, but 3G won't.
wu5262 said:
may i ask is there any reason why you are not using 3G? GPRS tend to have this problem, but 3G won't.
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Coverage, my house and my office don't have 3G coverage, else i would be.
i was on o2 b4 n hardly ever had 3g signal n when i did my video calling never worked....since moving 2 t-mobile ive had no problem....my data connection is mon 9 till 6 b it 3.5g, 3g or gprs n i use cortado.com push email service for instant emails.....i still receive calls when connected
using the flext 50 with web n walk
I'm in the US using T-Mobile and GPRS and don't have this problem. I'll try to make it "break" and see if I experience the problem but just never noticed it.
If using GPRS and a call comes at the exact time you are receiving data, your call will go to voice mail or unanswered. Its the way the radio is designed...SOme carriers have been successful at ending the data stream and raising the priority of the voice. But GPRS modem in most phones only allows data or voice not both...but,
If using 3g/utms it should ring on the phone. And allow data and voice at the same time.
Maybe you universal is grabbing the 3g signal and for some reason the 7500 is using gprs.
Wu has also reported this problem with Vodaphone and Hsdpa...
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If using GPRS and a call comes at the exact time you are receiving data, your call will go to voice mail or unanswered. Its the way the radio is designed...SOme carriers have been successful at ending the data stream and raising the priority of the voice. But GPRS modem in most phones only allows data or voice not both...but,
If using 3g/utms it should ring on the phone. And allow data and voice at the same time.
Maybe you universal is grabbing the 3g signal and for some reason the 7500 is using gprs.
Wu has also reported this problem with Vodaphone and Hsdpa...
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that is very correct, i have just change to T-Mobile yesterday, now my HSDPA works perfectly with voice, when voices comes in, it will switch the network to 3G and allow voices to comes in, data is still connected, just lower the bandwidth. Too bad that this doesn't work on Vodafone
Has anyone found a solution for this?
Regards,
Hollinshead
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Has anyone found a solution for this?
Regards,
Hollinshead
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there is no solution, the only thing you can do is swap your operator, or just don't use 3g at all....
I have 2 evos and i cannot recive any calls i can make calls and use the internet with no problems but can't recive any! I called sprint and they made do a ##3282# data reset a prl update and a profile update and nothing i going crazy has anyone gone thru this?
I had this problem on hero cdma. Fixed the problem by changing the roaming settings back to default. Sorry I can't remember whether data or voice roaming needed changing as it has been too long. Problem and solution reproducible. This was on stock rom before I ever rooted.
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turboll said:
I have 2 evos and i cannot recive any calls i can make calls and use the internet with no problems but can't recive any! I called sprint and they made do a ##3282# data reset a prl update and a profile update and nothing i going crazy has anyone gone thru this?
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What ROM are you using?
yep, I had that problem. but I couldn't receive calls OR texts. and my location according to my EVO was all goofy. it had me on the other side of the world.
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