Okay guys, heres one for you...
as some of you may know, i currently have a wizard, well an o2 mini-s to be exact, and am due to upgrade, change soon.....
I've have a number of smartphone/pda's in the past starting with the SPV E200, then the E500 then the SPV M1000 (Xda II) then jumped to the XDA Exec, which i sold and got a XDA Mini s.
I don't really want to go to anything bigger than the mini-s and like the slide out keyboard, kinda rules out the xda atom, SPV M600 etc etc
My question is, what is the main difference (apart from colour) of the 3 main hermes devices marketed at the minute.
Is anyone better than the other or is it all just down to bundled software and case colour......
I'm thinking of the SPVm3100 as i like the colour but dunno wheather to wait for o2 to launch the Trion in this country ???
any advice would be helpful.
It is very unlikely that O2 will ever release the Trion in this country, despite what others might say. Do you honestly think that O2 would wait so long?
The Hermes you have in this country are pretty much it, it really depends on what services you want. If you want a locked down device then go for Orange, an unlocked device with very little extra stuff loaded go for the v1605/TyTYN or if you want a device with bugundy go for the Vario II.
bydandie said:
It is very unlikely that O2 will ever release the Trion in this country, despite what others might say. Do you honestly think that O2 would wait so long?
The Hermes you have in this country are pretty much it, it really depends on what services you want. If you want a locked down device then go for Orange, an unlocked device with very little extra stuff loaded go for the v1605/TyTYN or if you want a device with bugundy go for the Vario II.
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Thanks for the reply... locked down can be fixed surely... it hasn't been an issue in any other xda's so far.....
I do know the orange is a good looking device especially in the black... might have to bite the bullet and go back to orange...
I've had the chance to really put the M3100 and Vario II through its paces.
I found the M3100 to be faster and also damn good looking compared to the ugly duckling the Vario.
Almost everything else is the same.
Hope that helps.
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locked down can be fixed surely...
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Not yet, other than by convincing your operator to do it (unlikely), or by paying £20 to an online unlocking service.
ash99 said:
I've had the chance to really put the M3100 and Vario II through its paces.
I found the M3100 to be faster and also damn good looking compared to the ugly duckling the Vario.
Almost everything else is the same.
Hope that helps.
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Thanks for that... I had the SPV E200, C500 and M1000 through orange and had no problem apart from i found that the signal strength where i lived wasn't up to much.
BTW Does the SPV M3100 take mini sd or the new stupid sized micro sd..
hope it's mini as i've just had to buy one recently for my mini s.... i've now got a 1gb sd card which is no good, i don't want a 1gb mini sd that won't be any use either
Sorry to say its Micro SD on the Hermes.
Hi,
here in germany the best choice is the MDA Vario II from t-mobile.
The reason is, that t-mobile is the only provider that supports HSDPA (1,8 mbit i think).
Hope it helps,
Thomas
steverae said:
Okay guys, heres one for you...
as some of you may know, i currently have a wizard, well an o2 mini-s to be exact, and am due to upgrade, change soon.....
I've have a number of smartphone/pda's in the past starting with the SPV E200, then the E500 then the SPV M1000 (Xda II) then jumped to the XDA Exec, which i sold and got a XDA Mini s.
I don't really want to go to anything bigger than the mini-s and like the slide out keyboard, kinda rules out the xda atom, SPV M600 etc etc
My question is, what is the main difference (apart from colour) of the 3 main hermes devices marketed at the minute.
Is anyone better than the other or is it all just down to bundled software and case colour......
I'm thinking of the SPVm3100 as i like the colour but dunno wheather to wait for o2 to launch the Trion in this country ???
any advice would be helpful.
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Sorry to say its Micro SD on the Hermes.
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bugger !!!! thats another bit of plastic that'll go to waste.....
anyway, guess i'll go for the orange spv m3100, gonna give em a ring a see what deal they can do for me to come back to em.....
diven't wanna pay the full wack for it.....
anyone know of any 'special deals' coming up on this
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New to all this so please be gentle.
Have decided to buy an Xda II (or similar) on a contract here in the UK. Can not decide between O2 and Orange, prices are similar although there appear to be some good web deals on Orange.
What do folk recommend? I have heard that Orange's M1000 can not be unlocked or the firm wear updated. Is this true? Are there any other differences? Do you get two batteries and other goodies with Orange?
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
jjb said:
New to all this so please be gentle.
Have decided to buy an Xda II (or similar) on a contract here in the UK. Can not decide between O2 and Orange, prices are similar although there appear to be some good web deals on Orange.
What do folk recommend? I have heard that Orange's M1000 can not be unlocked or the firm wear updated. Is this true? Are there any other differences? Do you get two batteries and other goodies with Orange?
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
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I have an SPV-M1000 and unlocked it using the software found on this site, I have also upgraded the firmware from the orange website.
Cheers
JustinP
go with orange
you do get 2 batterys and a screen protector and 24 hour repacement if it is lost or dammaged or stolen for only £5 a month.
i am on my 3rd unit as the rom upgrade failed twice and they have swapped it no questions asked.
orange customer services is also free so any problems dont cost you a penny in calls unlike o2
go with orange mate!
SPV M2000 released today on Orange
Bah,
I've just decided I can afford an SPV (£100 with a £30 contract). I knew there would likely be the new model out soon since the price has dropped so much. How much do you think you could get the new M2000 for with a new contract?
I've ordered my M1000 but have 2 weeks to return it if I don't want it
SPV M2000 released today on Orange???????
where have you seen this can u post a link???
cheers
Orange SPV M2000
delboydell said:
SPV M2000 released today on Orange???????
where have you seen this can u post a link???
cheers
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The SPV M2000 is due out in October/November 2004. The nice new feature is Windows Mobile 2003 Second Edition. I don't think I would rate the Qwerty keyboard that much unless you have really small child-like fingers. I perhaps to use the stylus for text entry. Then again if I had one I would probably think different!
http://www.shopforphones.co.uk/orange-spv-m2000.htm
http://www.msmobiles.com/news.php/2981.html
Whats the difference between the I-mate jam and the Qtek s100. I was told they are identical, which iis better, and I heard that the Qtek s100 has no vibration is this true?
I-Mate gives 24H, 7days a week / 365 days a year, support by phone etc.
there is no diffrence between MDA/M500/I-mate/Qtek S100/VPA
(only the simlock from T-mobile, Vodafone and Orange
Underworld said:
I-Mate gives 24H, 7days a week / 365 days a year, support by phone etc.
there is no diffrence between MDA/M500/I-mate/Qtek S100/VPA
(only the simlock from T-mobile, Vodafone and Orange
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BE AWARE! Qtek support is NON EXISTANT!
In fact, Expansys offers you Qtek units instead of I-mate ones, because they are short of supplies from I-mate.
Is the lack of support a big deal? I mean won't most people go to a forum first anyway?
I was thinking of getting the qtek myself and removing the logo, as Qtek is a crappy name in all honesty.
Do they still provide prompt firmware upgrades? And you can still flash I-mate roms can you not?
Also in the UK at least the warranty offered on the Qtek is 2 years, as oppose to 1 on the I-mate. According to the sales pitch on some the sites at least.
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Is the lack of support a big deal? I mean won't most people go to a forum first anyway?.
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Well, forums are OK, I'm here too, but, What happens if your device language is not in the forum? And, of course, your 2 year warranty will be NOTHING once you tweak your phone.
remixme said:
I was thinking of getting the qtek myself and removing the logo, as Qtek is a crappy name in all honesty.
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I did it too, once I found Qtek support does not exist.
remixme said:
Do they still provide prompt firmware upgrades? And you can still flash I-mate roms can you not?.
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If you are not an i-mate owner (valid IMEI), you can not download legally the new upgrades, so back to the warranty issue.
remixme said:
Also in the UK at least the warranty offered on the Qtek is 2 years, as oppose to 1 on the I-mate. According to the sales pitch on some the sites at least.
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You are lucky, I bought my Qtek through Expansys one and a half year ago, and haven't found yet where to send it for servicing. And no, don't try internet, it is NOT there. Qtek do not provide service even for its own named phones, when sold in another country.
All said, even my carrier, Telefónica, DO NOT support the devices from HTC It re-brands as TSM. You can NOT get even a simple battery!
spv c500
get the spv c500,
way nicer design and also covers over de usb connection!!
makes the other magicians feel like they are hit with an ugly stick!
:twisted:
and for 20 pounds or less you get it unlocked for all networks!
check out the site below for great pictures!
http://www.msmobiles.com/news.php/3768.html
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dvl said:
get the spv c500,
way nicer design and also covers over de usb connection!!
makes the other magicians feel like they are hit with an ugly stick!
:twisted:
and for 20 pounds or less you get it unlocked for all networks!
check out the site below for great pictures!
http://www.msmobiles.com/news.php/3768.html
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Go away man with your C500, this is the Magician Forum!!! :evil:
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Underworld said:
dvl said:
get the spv c500,
way nicer design and also covers over de usb connection!!
makes the other magicians feel like they are hit with an ugly stick!
:twisted:
and for 20 pounds or less you get it unlocked for all networks!
check out the site below for great pictures!
http://www.msmobiles.com/news.php/3768.html
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Go away man with your C500, this is the Magician Forum!!! :evil:
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Hi!
No need to be so rude.
In fact it should be a misspelling, cause the SPV M500 is the same as Magician, and the SPV C500 is the Smartphone. It is just a letter, M or C, as you can see in http://www.msmobiles.com/news.php/3768.html
BTW, their performances are not so different, I have them both now...
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If you have a problem with the QTEK device, just contact expansys and they would arrange support for you as they were the place of purchase, if they were unable to help at least they would point you in the right direction.
rgds
Jim
I just got my Vario, but now i am thinking that i should have waited for the Vario II (Hermes?). Have i made a mistake? Should i send it back under my 7 day return and wait?
aint being funny but i fink it looks crap...
http://www.newmobile.nl/eur/en/photos.php?phone_id=18fc907
i'd rather have the current Vario...as it's got style to it....that looks like a simple t mobile phone :roll: looks a bit blaah if u get me
Eh? I think it look pretty nice, better than the Vario I. And a 400Mhz CPU? I would not mind some of that.
What should i do?!
well the 200mhz aint bad....plays movies without a problem...music is fine...tom tom works; so it aint a bad phone...
but if your main concern is the CPU speed then go for it...
I think the hermes looks like a great device, an evolution on the current vario. If you can wait and afford the difference in price go for it, i'm sure it will be a cracking device.
Otherwise go for the vario, the hermes being available will not make the vario any less useful and there are already loads of hacks available for the vario.
A tough choice, but bear in mind even if you hold out for the hermes, there is always somethings bigger and better just around the corner.
whichever decision you make enjoy your device
R
No matter what phone you choose to buy, there will always be something better coming out on the horizon
mattucd said:
No matter what phone you choose to buy, there will always be something better coming out on the horizon
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Agreed, but the when the device is coming out so soon (this month?) it might be worth waiting.
Where are you based ?
I just got a vario and asked about release date of vario 2 ... (Assuming you actally mean the vario rather than i-mate or xda mini S) then Germany will be getting it this month but the T-Mobile aren't planning on releasing it in the UK till Q3 (ie October at the earliest)
BTW isn't it a 300Mhz CPU rather than a 400 Mhz one ??
HTH
Too soon? You mean too late!
I've had mine for aaages now, i'm nearly ready for an upgrade!
Other than that rather tasty looking camera application on the Vario 2 i think the XDA Mini S looks far nicer, as an ex XDA IIi user im finding it very hard to fault the XDA Mini S at all, its a great phone.
The Front-side looks okay to me, but the keyboard is ugly as hell, I like the keyboard of the MDA Vario a whole lot more.
I'm also keeping an eye out for the hermes but i haven't heard anything about any official release dates. I'm leaning toward the Imate branded JasJam but no clue when its coming out. Anyone have an idea? also is its 3g/umts compatible with the Cingular 3g?
At last I heard, the Hermes will not be compatible with US 3G networks, but that may change by the release by Imate or Qtek.
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hi, im also having the same dilemma, i currently have the imate JAMin and looking to get a device with a keyboard and im leaning towards the imate k-jam, but i am eagerly awaiting the release of the hermes or imate JASJAM.......i dont know if i should wait for the hermes or get the k-jam for now.......i have emailed and called the imate company in dubai and they advised me that they have no idea when this device will be released internationally......it is still under testing they said.....
irv777 said:
hi, im also having the same dilemma, i currently have the imate JAMin and looking to get a device with a keyboard and im leaning towards the imate k-jam, but i am eagerly awaiting the release of the hermes or imate JASJAM.......i dont know if i should wait for the hermes or get the k-jam for now.......i have emailed and called the imate company in dubai and they advised me that they have no idea when this device will be released internationally......it is still under testing they said.....
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i'm actually looking for an i-mate jamin and i currently have a vario (k-jam). i'd gladly trade mine for yours.
You dont say which country you are in so we can give you valid advice. The vario 2 has a 300mhz processor and uses a microsd slot - so 1gb max for now. It has a better camera but far as i can see does not have stereo speakers like the vario. If sound is a priority or if you already have a minisd card stick with the vario - otherwise go for the vario 2, i am certain that overall it is a better device. see here http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=41660
waiting can be fruitless
I've waited since November for the Nokia N80 to be released. It was always just around the corner. Now here we are in May and still no US N80. There are even rumors that it will not be released due to some G3 issue.
I wish I wouldn't have waited and just got the Cingular 8125 back in November. I could have been enjoying it the last six months.
Point is... you can drive yourself crazy always looking out on the horizon. I would recommend getting the current version and having fun with all the mods. When the Hermes comes out, give it another six months for more mods to come out and the price to drop and then you can switch again if you want. But by then rumors of Hermes II will be floating around with beter keyboard, 800mhz, 5mp camera, built in 10gb hard drive optionsl, thinner, built in GPS receiver. LOL Just my opinion.
My brother just got an N80. I had a friend of mine buy it for him from Saudi Arabia and then had one of my friend's mom bring it with her to texas. But i'm gonna say its gonna be a while (2 to 3 months) until it gets released on cingular.
Hi
I'm a newbie, have checked but can't see anyone has asked this specific question before:
I'd like an xda trion but I've been told by O2 it won't be coming to the uk.
So my question is, if I got hold of an unlocked HTC Hermes or one of it's equivalents and put in my o2 3g sim - could I use all of it's features?
i.e. would this be like using a Trion but without all the O2 software etc..
Also is there a recommended model to buy? - i.e. HTC or imate etc
Thanks
Do you really need to stay with O2 ? Because the T-Mobile and other operator deals can give you a 12/18 month contract + Hermes for the same price as a device without contract.
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Hi
I'm a newbie, have checked but can't see anyone has asked this specific question before:
I'd like an xda trion but I've been told by O2 it won't be coming to the uk.
So my question is, if I got hold of an unlocked HTC Hermes or one of it's equivalents and put in my o2 3g sim - could I use all of it's features?
i.e. would this be like using a Trion but without all the O2 software etc..
Also is there a recommended model to buy? - i.e. HTC or imate etc
Thanks
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I bought an unlocked TyTN from mobilefun.co.uk aswell as a 1GB microSD (the UltraII one). Works a charm, no rpobelsm(LOL leaving that for irony) whatsoever (apart from ones ive made hehe). Its the HTC branded TyTN but ive flashed it with the imate JASJAM ROM and used the HTC ext rom to get the standard green content etc.... (having tried the updated unnofficial HTC rom, aswell as the dopod rom). 3G works a treat and im still on my O2 online contract (sim only.....1 month rolling contract...£25 line rental...1000 txts and 1000 off-peak minutes)
O2 is pretty good for me and im ok with not having the full speed internet and settling for (around) 1mbps on 3G.
kevino - I wish I could, my current contract doesn't finish until April though.... there's no way out is there?
mrvanx - thanks for the info that's great. Think I'll look for second hand though, it's expensive isn't it.
Also I'll have to look in to all this rom update stuff to get it all sorted.
Thanks guys - very helpful.
Kenny
Kenny,
April is a long way off. I just moved to T-Mobile because of W'n'W. Depending on your usage it may be worth your while to just get a new contract anyway. You can, I believe, buy out your contract if you want to keep your number. Anyway I'm sure you'll know what's best for yourself.
I'am looking to get this on 02... any ideas when its out?
As orange are sold out
Talk to Orange and ask them to put you on a prepurchase list, I did heh, there has been no announcement from O2 as to the release of the TyTn but I read on theregister that O2 had had a falling out with HTC and possibly wouldn't be releasing any more of them. Though, as with all news of that type, it could be wrong as O2 have to be a reasonably major customer of HTC
i like 02 as they dont brand the phone, and to buy offline is crazy!
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I'am looking to get this on 02... any ideas when its out?
As orange are sold out
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It's not coming out on o2
Well, I'm sure Buzz and the team will work out an unlock for it sometime, and also someone will come up with unbranded roms, besides, just look at the branding on the HTC Universal / XDA Exec as it ships from O2 lol you CAN turn the orange branding options off (apart from the orange logo on the case lol)
Just a point on unbranding. I have an Orange M3100 and got a T-Mobile VarioII. the VarioII doesn't have any button to the top left of the D pad whereas on the M3100 it's a video call button which I believe can be re-assigned to other apps.
No sure which other operators are doing this, if any.
Just a point to those who might want to re-brand and 'play' with the device.
Gav.