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so being a little fed up with windows mobile and a little discouraged with my last unsuccessful flashing experience (tethering is how I roll) im looking for a fully functional or mostly functional version of linux for my Herald. I've searched everywhere I can think of, is that pretty much the end of the road? would a linux rom that works on another similar phone work on mine? which phone is most similar? if linux isn't available, how long should I wait?
THANKS!
Cheers
Stivan
Have a lokk in "Developement and Hacking" thread. there are several linux threads. BUT nothing impressive....
Wait on google android!
If it makes you feel better, USPL works off some kind of linux i believe. If you use USPL to flash your phone you technically used linux. So there we go
I am definately interested in a herald linux port.
Linux on Herald Here!!!
Here is a gentoo image compatible with the Herald. Built for the Wizard, but works fine on my Wing. Only issues being no sound support and screen is shifted to the right a little, but touchscreen and SD card are working. Keyboard mapping is a little off though, but easy enough to figure out.
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/gentoo/embedded/55281
For those who don't want to read the whole thread...
http://tinderbox.dev.gentoo.org/embedded/linwizard/gizard-20080527.tar.bz2
Extract to root of storage card, and run Haret.exe Login as root, blank password. Use startx to get desktop if you want.
Enjoy
Hey guys, I tried it too but I get a white screen...
you kick ass..If I could just get the source code...
Lackofmotivation said:
Here is a gentoo image compatible with the Herald. Built for the Wizard, but works fine on my Wing. Only issues being no sound support and screen is shifted to the right a little, but touchscreen and SD card are working. Keyboard mapping is a little off though, but easy enough to figure out.
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/gentoo/embedded/55281
For those who don't want to read the whole thread...
http://tinderbox.dev.gentoo.org/embedded/linwizard/gizard-20080527.tar.bz2
Extract to root of storage card, and run Haret.exe Login as root, blank password. Use startx to get desktop if you want.
Enjoy
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I don't even know you, but I love you!
You are awesome. Thank you so damn much.
Linux was my only reason for buying a wing!
The obvious problems I see are as follows:
no sound
screen does not adjust when slid out
no phone program
not sure if it can get on the edge network
directional button does not work
the telephone buttons dont appear to respond nor do the subkeys around the green and red phone buttons
it's gentoo [I kid, this isn't really a problem ]
the keypad does not seem to map correctly to qwerty-us
cap and alt are lit and are inaccessible
usb port may or may not work.. did not check
other then that KICKASS
This is by no means a complaint list.
I am a programmer, I do know c and I have messed around inside the
internals of the linux kernel before.
My motivation to resolve as many of the above issues is very high right now.
I was almost ready to give up on this phone.
Again... THANK YOU!!!
Did you take the entire gizard folder and drop it into the top level directory of your sd card?
after you do that, reboot your phone. Then run the haret program.
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Hey guys, I tried it too but I get a white screen...
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You must have a different LCD panel, and the power GPIO settings may
be different. Look and compare the wizard and artemis wiki pages about
omap gpios.
Herald is very similar to Wiazrd (artemis has a very different setup), but
obviously there are still some differences.
not really
fzzyrn said:
If it makes you feel better, USPL works off some kind of linux i believe. If you use USPL to flash your phone you technically used linux. So there we go
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this really isnt what i was talking about at all. linux os on htc phone, not using linux program to flash htc phone with windows software. really big difference. so technically, yeah i did use linux, but not on my phone. thanks anyway though
touchscreen broken
so in order to install gentoo onto linux i have to install within windows mobile i guess. problem is, my touchscreen is broken and it wont let me get past the setup wizard and the screen calibration. when the touchscreen broke, for some reason i thought that reseting my phone might fix it, maybe some sort of glitch or something. is there any way to get past this? is there any other way to install gentoo without having to put it on the memory card first?
so in order to install gentoo onto linux i have to install within windows mobile i guess. problem is, my touchscreen is broken and it wont let me get past the setup wizard and the screen calibration. when the touchscreen broke, for some reason i thought that reseting my phone might fix it, maybe some sort of glitch or something. is there any way to get past this? is there any other way to install gentoo without having to put it on the memory card first?
waiting......
as for the broken touch screen,just create a file named welcome.not and place it in the root of the micro sd card. restart the unit. it'sjust an empty file. it has worked for me four times already. it bypasses the touch screen setup. as for linux. I would love to try it.
Thank You Thank You So Much!
donepate you are so awesome! this is by far probably one of the most useful (albeit basic) tips ive ever read! thank you so much my herald has been dead for about a year and in its place was a Samsung SGH-639. BLAH! YAY! HERALD IS BACK! HELL YEAAAAAH!
has anyone got this to work completely keyboard, screen flipping and everything?
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Lol nice game
is it possible to boot an os from sd?
It sounds very interesting
maybe we can boot by vista with every HTC shift‘s characteristic on sd and work in xp
softearth said:
is it possible to boot an os from sd?
It sounds very interesting
maybe we can boot by vista with every HTC shift‘s characteristic on sd and work in xp
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What? I didn't understand that at all.
Pantaloonie said:
What? I didn't understand that at all.
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Seems this guy off topic.
softearth said:
is it possible to boot an os from sd?
It sounds very interesting
maybe we can boot by vista with every HTC shift‘s characteristic on sd and work in xp[/QUOT
not yet on SD bios does not allow it , but even if its possible it take time to boot on SD, speed of reading and writing is slow man i think your off of topic here ? were talking about robot and g sensor on htc shift
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Hi people,
I have a very annoying problem...
I am using Windows7 64 bit. When I first plug my device (Touch HD) to my PC, it takes 20-30 seconds to view the directories under windows explorer.
I read articles related to "updating HTC USB Sync Drivers" and did step by step everything carefully. But also after updating the HTC USB Sync driver, it takes too long at the first explore.
After first exploring, it explores with no problem, instantly.
Is there anything to correct this issue?
I am going crazy... Please help...!!!
Hi! I have my HTC p3600 for like 5 months. I never had problems with it. But now, since April, my HTC freezes alot. I thought its because im using too much programs at the same time, but i launched all I had and it didnt freeze. 3 hours later i was typing SMS and then it freezed. And when i tried to turn it on, it stopped on HTC logo, so i had to take battery out, wait like for 5 min, put it back in and then SOMETIMES it start normally. But now its just annoying, that when i want to aswer the call, it just freezes... I installed new ROM but its not helping. Instaled new radio, still not helping... Also i cant format my Micro SD card and i have strange files in it like file "e" that is 4 gb (my SD card has 2 gb storage) so its just weird. Sorry for my bad english and noob info, but im just new here, 1st post . Hope you can help me! Thanks!
Hi,
I am having huge problems with my HTC Shift X9500. The harddisk is not recognized, it is neither shown in BIOS nor in the Windows 7 Setup.
I already tested a new hdd and a new zif-cable.
Now at least the harddisk light is on when it boots.
Is there anything I can do?
Or do I have to install any drivers or whatever?
Thanks!
one thing that may have occured: is the cable connected right´way? HD turned 180 degrees?
Drivers of course... how-tos allaround here...
B-44 said:
one thing that may have occured: is the cable connected right´way? HD turned 180 degrees?
Drivers of course... how-tos allaround here...
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I tried every possible way to connect the harddisk. I mean drivers or any bios tricks to make sure that the harddisk is recognized.
Did you try to restore your system to a previous state?
I lately came around to see my marvell card was "lost"
and no driver update helped/ was possible.
Went back four weeks, new original driver update - et voilá!
Maybe something similar.
How can I do that? When system boots it says that I have to insert a proper boot media.
In Bios there is no harddisk shown in menu "Boot" and windows-setup also does not show a boot media.
Strange is that even Bios does not show the hd..
Any new ideas?
not really...
of course you could boot from USB
Question is if it doesn't show HDD just because Bootsectors are damaged,
or because of some physical damage in connection between HDD and motherboard.
You could take a usb-zif adaptor, connect it to a pc and take a look what happens here.
I just ordered an usb adapter so that I can test it. Thanks for all your answers.
Kingsized said:
I just ordered an usb adapter so that I can test it. Thanks for all your answers.
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I am also having the same problem. Sometimes my HD is recognized sometimes not. For a while, my Shift just showed the "not recognized" error. I assumed the HD had died. After a week or so (to my surprise), booted up (HD found) again.
Now, about 3 weeks after first "not recognized", still having problems. Cold boot's take longer and much more problematic, then restarts. Can the problem be temperature related?
My Shift runs original Vista Business (Swedish). Sorry no solution, just share your problem.
Cybog said:
I am also having the same problem. Sometimes my HD is recognized sometimes not. For a while, my Shift just showed the "not recognized" error. I assumed the HD had died. After a week or so (to my surprise), booted up (HD found) again.
Now, about 3 weeks after first "not recognized", still having problems. Cold boot's take longer and much more problematic, then restarts. Can the problem be temperature related?
My Shift runs original Vista Business (Swedish). Sorry no solution, just share your problem.
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Warmed my Shift (blow dryer) before cold boot. Shift booted on first try.
Will try the blow dryer again, the next time Shift shows the, "no HD/bootable device" error.
Shift with SSD... Have you tried it?
Cybog said:
Warmed my Shift (blow dryer) before cold boot. Shift booted on first try.
Will try the blow dryer again, the next time Shift shows the, "no HD/bootable device" error.
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Any long time users of an SSD in a Shift... Does a SSD improve the Shift? Faster boot times? Less heat? Any problems?
Thanks in advance for replies.
strange phenomenom... hasn't there been a song by kate bush? -
i just have updated my shift to 2GB, now booting and running much faster
may it be possible system updates have caused lame startup/system performance?
try system restore to a point six months back or updating hardware.
Don't remember the Kate Bush.
I have uninstalled some programs... no change. Have not tried system restores. (After many failed attempts, finally succeeded with all patches/updates for Net. Framework 4. Don't look forward to that again).
Hope that the problem with my Shift is a software (not hardware) issue. Will first try, a system restore as you suggest. And, if necessary, a total reinstall (original factory Vista).
Read somewhere that more ram means lower battery times. Is this true for your shift? Does the 2GB make a better Shift?
B-44 said:
strange phenomenom... hasn't there been a song by kate bush? -
i just have updated my shift to 2GB, now booting and running much faster
may it be possible system updates have caused lame startup/system performance?
try system restore to a point six months back or updating hardware.
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"Booting and running much faster" sounds good. Will consider these hardward updates if I can get my "no bootable device"/HD problem solved. Thanks for the system restore suggestion. Is it correct, that (besides 2GB ram) your Shift is also updated with a SSD? If yes, which? How long ago?
SSD makes it run a bit faster, gives you more storage and reduces noice. Real boot improvement you get by increasing RAM-
there are 2GB 214Pin storages available making your shift real smart.
Heat Vent on the back shows wear. Same for yours?
I'm wondering if the age of my Shift plays in. I am its original owner. Think I purchased it back in 2008. On the back of the Shift is a air vent with a metal cover with holes. Here my Shift shows definite wear & tear The metal is deformed inward & with an extra large gap. Is this usual wear?
In addition, today my Shift showed a new error "BOOTMGR is missing". Still haven't tried a six month previous (or so) windows restore. Perhaps I should. (Or a clean installation of Windows).
First try restore.
With ssd you have one moving part less, so less heat, so less ventilation running, so less battery drain...
p.s.: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2182238
Which SSD/usb-zif adapter (?) works best with HTC Shift?
"First try restore".
Tried to repair Vista Startup/bootsector files by booting from usb with Windows Vista Dvd. The Startup Repair does not recognize my Vista Installation. Nothing under "Operating Systems" (see attached image).
My Shift does not start, and can not be restored. I think my hard drive is totally dead.
Usb-Zif suggestions may be a solution for me too. Will upgrade with SSD & 2GB (not HD).
Why then not simultaneously upgrade to Win7?
Of course me myself had to pay more for Win and SSD
as paid for Shift, 2GBRam then was pure luxury...
Which works best on Shift Windows 7 or Windows 8?
"Why then not simultaneously upgrade to Win7?"
Because Windows 8 came after 7, felt Windows 8 better that Windows 7.