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Hi, I'm very keen on buying the P3600 and am just wondering about a couple of things - firstly, not having used a touchscreen before, how easy it texting using the on-screen keypad. Secondly, an odd question, but one I've been wondering about - if you're viewing a web page, but are holding the P3600 in landscape (or sideways) when you use the scroll button which way does the page scroll - horizontally or vertically?
Thanks
Vertically.
Texting is fine on the Dopod D810 - I use the stylus and keyboard only now but if you prefer Phone Pad style, there is one installed too. I just don't like the way it requires you to select the word from the prompt list rather than just display the word in the msg straight away. If you're ambitious (& patience), you might also like to try the Transcriber with your hand-writing
TenGo text entry
Anybody tried TenGO Thumb and if so, does it integrate well with the Trinity and more importantly is it easy to use?
Thanks for all your help so far.
I've tried to install TenGO before but couldn't get it to work. Right after that, I found PhonePad and haven't looked back. For long texts/emails, I use Spb fullscreen keyboard...no stylus necessary...
Hi
i have tried to install TenGo and this phone pad, oh and a couple of other alternate keyboards, and try as i may i cannot get them to show up. They exist in the list, both as an alternate input method and as an option on the keyboard choice pop-up. A soft reset after picking one still returns me to the original keyboard.
Am i missing something really obvious? If so where should i start looking?
Banafish, what is 'Spb fullscreen keyboard' - is it a stand-alone application?
Try using the iPhone-like keyboard. Love it for texting.
Of all I've used so far, thats the most comfortable, especially in landscape mode . Not only the keys are big, it also doesnt eat up all your screen space when writing like that of spb keyboard (which is good for writing essays, which I'll never do).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296455
SPB fullscreen keyboard is an application:
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/fsk/?en
You can install/uninstall it like you would any 3rd party app. Once installed, it will appear as an input option and you can access it that way. I have it mapped to one of the hard buttons so that I can just activate it when I need it.
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Banafish, what is 'Spb fullscreen keyboard' - is it a stand-alone application?
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Does anyone know if there's a sip out there that shows how many characters you've typed...because you really need to know when you've reached the 160 characters limit for a single text message?
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Does anyone know if there's a sip out there that shows how many characters you've typed...because you really need to know when you've reached the 160 characters limit for a single text message?
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I thought you can see this in the default message window, just that you need to close the text input panel first.. or scroll down the window.
ok, I just got tengo keyboard to work. Not for fast one handed operation, although you can try tengo thumb. There's a free 'lite' version of the regular tengo keyboard available.
Anyone ever tried using Fitaly? I managed to get upwards of 40 words per minute using that, even sometimes hitting 50 wpm. I installed 3.5 on it though, and it slowed down my phone so much, I had to take it off.
These two programs rock! I find myself using the pcmkeyboard (WITHOUT autocorrect) all the time. POcketcm.. not so much..
It's great to show it to people, but honestly I'm faster with t9 contact searches such as what the htc dialer uses.. The threading SMS is great though - now if it would only integrate with SPB's mobile shell so that the messaging options shows it
PCMKeyboard's autocorrect keeps getting in my way. I've had to disable it as it usually uncorrects words that are fine to start with.. Would love to see an option to quickly enable/disable this from the keyboard screen and without going to the options...
I'll type up a quick email/sms, then look back and realize that the words had been changed on me..
Overall - I'm pretty much as-fast on the hardware keyboard on my ppc-6800 as with pcmkeyboard - which says a lot about a soft keyboard...
Keep up the great work!
-mark
diomark said:
These two programs rock! I find myself using the pcmkeyboard (WITHOUT autocorrect) all the time. POcketcm.. not so much..
It's great to show it to people, but honestly I'm faster with t9 contact searches such as what the htc dialer uses.. The threading SMS is great though - now if it would only integrate with SPB's mobile shell so that the messaging options shows it
PCMKeyboard's autocorrect keeps getting in my way. I've had to disable it as it usually uncorrects words that are fine to start with.. Would love to see an option to quickly enable/disable this from the keyboard screen and without going to the options...
I'll type up a quick email/sms, then look back and realize that the words had been changed on me..
Overall - I'm pretty much as-fast on the hardware keyboard on my ppc-6800 as with pcmkeyboard - which says a lot about a soft keyboard...
Keep up the great work!
-mark
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I'm using the pcm keyboard, also. and there is an option to turn off auto correct and suggest words. Uncheck the box that says enable auto correct. The downsides I've found with the pcm keyboard is there's no option to make it the default keyboard, and I have to redo everything after start ups.
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try this to set up your fav. default
http://www.mm.pl/~xoen/SIPChange.CAB
hotdog53 said:
I'm using the pcm keyboard, also. and there is an option to turn off auto correct and suggest words. Uncheck the box that says enable auto correct. The downsides I've found with the pcm keyboard is there's no option to make it the default keyboard, and I have to redo everything after start ups.
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I know you can disable it - mine is disabled.. I just wish the auto-correct was a bit easier to disable/enable on demand...
i.e. when I'm typing a URL, I don't need autocorrect (in fact 9 times out of 10 it gets in the way and I have to tell it to revert..).. but it's helpful for fast sms messages...
-m
thank god for pcm keyboard.
I just updated pocket cm, so still reviewing.
there is a sipchange app to set default the keyboard.
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I'm using the pcm keyboard, also. and there is an option to turn off auto correct and suggest words. Uncheck the box that says enable auto correct. The downsides I've found with the pcm keyboard is there's no option to make it the default keyboard, and I have to redo everything after start ups.
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Well i am a happy user of pocketcm but i don't like pcmkeyboard , the layout is just to small for my fingers , i would like to see more rows. like:
qwerty
uiop
asdf
ghjkl
zxc
bnm
so that the keys can be bigger and more finger friendly , now i use phonepad intl from mccune with t9
You can actually make the program behave that way by creating a settings file. However, by doing this it will take up most if not all of the screen
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Well i am a happy user of pocketcm but i don't like pcmkeyboard , the layout is just to small for my fingers , i would like to see more rows. like:
qwerty
uiop
asdf
ghjkl
zxc
bnm
so that the keys can be bigger and more finger friendly , now i use phonepad intl from mccune with t9
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I dont like the fact that when ever I get a text message Pocket CM opens, I'd prefer just to have the normal notification... anyone know how to stop this - Also the whole loading previous conversations is way to looong!
I think I'd be happier if it were a contact manager and not a content manager.
I like the slickness of this program - Very good - waiting for the next release!
I have the 16 key touch dual.
So on input options, you have the touch keypad, when I select that sometimes this comes out (please see attached)
I like it thought better than the 20 key touch keyboard.
Yeh... Where?
I second this, it works really well but there is no option to bring it up on the dual... it just randomly appears sometimes when you need to input text.
Thirded.
And whats more, why does text input seem to vary on web pages?
I've got some where it defaults to numeric input when it should be alpha numeric (ie. passwords), others where XT9 seems to be off (the subject on mails in facebook).
Its so stupidly all over the place and inconsistent! If I could just get this one to pop up all the time I'd be happy.
Doesn't that keyboard show when there's no text entry field?
And yes, i want it too, why would they disable it for normal usage?
Yeh I have found the keyboard to be all over the place when it comes to deciding if it will give you tx9, abc, 123, etc.... Anyone know a way to set one of the two alphanumerics as a default at least?
ok ive had this appear a few times now but couldnt figure out why, as you have been asking for it i have been playing around and think i know what is causing it. you may not need everything listed below but these are the settings on my device if you play around with them you should be able to narrow it down.
I'm running Toms rom, found here
i have disabled threaded sms by using the second setting here
i have enabled the favourite people button on the htc home screen by deleteing the key here
the only other app i have that may have changed a setting is the HTC home customiser.
After making these changes tick the enable xt9 setting in romsettings app, exit the app, then go back into it and untick the enable t9 setting, after closing romsettings you should have the keyboard shown in the second screen shot
as far as i can see this changes the keyboard in all applications
Thats great! Still albeit of a noob so you lost me somewhere there, is there a way to this on the stock ROM?
short answer is i dont know. try looking for an applcation called rom settings after installing it there is a t9 setting. untick it and closethe application if this makes no dfference you may want to try altering the other settings and then trying again until it works.
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short answer is i dont know. try looking for an applcation called rom settings after installing it there is a t9 setting. untick it and closethe application if this makes no dfference you may want to try altering the other settings and then trying again until it works.
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Ok will try that thanks. On the side, when you untick "T9" does this make "abc" default text entry as well?
I have confirmed that this keyboard layout come out when no text entry is needed.
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On the side, when you untick "T9" does this make "abc" default text entry as well?
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I wish, this has been a problem since the phones release - theres 7 pages on it here
muzikfreakah said:
I have confirmed that this keyboard layout come out when no text entry is needed.
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thats the default action anyway, with the changes detailed the keyboard is available when entering text, if you look at the second image you will see that the cursor is actually in the message box, its the black line at the end of the word hello
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I have confirmed that this keyboard layout come out when no text entry is needed.
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Eh? Maybe I overdosed on the thick pills last night, but that doesn't make any sense? If I click on a password field in IE, sometimes the main phone keypad always seems to default to numeric entry. But clicking in the field itself pops up this lovely keyboard.
It really does make no sense at all. There doesn't appear to be any standard/global keyboard settings.
And this is in v6 of WinMo, you would have thought they would have got the basics right by now, but the darned sent items has the useless option of "order by from" - when all the sent items are sent from the same person.
Its got plenty of potential, but it just seems like lots of separate teams were implementing it, doing their own thing without any centralised discussion/design.
Has anyone managed to get this to work with the standard T-Mobile [UK] ROM ?
any updates on this as well? it would be nice to just get an option for this
I got it to work, rather by chance, but thing is after that, I could switch to back to the touchpad type anymore.
I installed POCKETCM KEYBOARD. After doing that, somehow it locked this keyboard in when I choose touchpad.
Its rather a workaround, but for those who to use it premanently, you can do it
it also shows up at times when you are entering a password
Ouch ! I read to quickly and did'nt see the word "permanently" !
It does the same for me after installing pocketpc keyboard and even after uninstalling it !!!
Did you find a way to get the classic keyboard back ? This one is nice but there are some important keys missing as "." and a key to hide the keyboard !
Thanks
EDIT : The installation of Resco Keyboard got all the original settings back + Resco Keyboard of course.
So if you need to use the famous "hidden HTC keyboard", simply install Resco Keyboard and then Pocketpc keyboard.
You will then have your classic "touch" keyboards replaced by the "hidden keyboard" (+Resco Keyboard installed of course).
But to my mind, Resco keyboard alone is better...
Hey guys,
Is it possible to delete the Windows on screen keyboard or to get another input option as standard, because it is absolutely useless and too small.
Thanks a lot!
people have experienced some serious issues with disabling it
if u don't use an on screen keyboard then try nullkb
use sktools
HansWurst40 said:
Hey guys,
Is it possible to delete the Windows on screen keyboard or to get another input option as standard, because it is absolutely useless and too small.
Thanks a lot!
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don't bother deleting the default keyboard, just try other keyboards such as spb keyboard or resco keyboard and make it as your default one.
ericmateo said:
don't bother deleting the default keyboard, just try other keyboards such as spb keyboard or resco keyboard and make it as your default one.
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How do u make it as your default one?
The easiest way is to use SKtools.
Advanced Config has a setting under "Input > Auto deploy SIP:" to disable the soft keyboard in most situations, I find that works for pretty much everything except Opera. If I remember correctly Opera has it's own registry entry for stopping the SIP popup.
I don't like having the SIP at all either, it seems pointless considering we have a hardware keyboard, and I always prefer disabling and/or complete removal than adding more software to acheive the required result.
The on screen keyboard is indeed useless. Is there a way, without installing apps, to disable it?
dogans said:
The on screen keyboard is indeed useless. Is there a way, without installing apps, to disable it?
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use sktools.under the input just remove registry key.thats all.but i would recommend you to be carefull.if you mess up input keyboard your phone will not be start again.if that happens you have to hard reset.cheers
SquidgyB said:
Advanced Config has a setting under "Input > Auto deploy SIP:" to disable the soft keyboard in most situations, I find that works for pretty much everything except Opera. If I remember correctly Opera has it's own registry entry for stopping the SIP popup.
I don't like having the SIP at all either, it seems pointless considering we have a hardware keyboard, and I always prefer disabling and/or complete removal than adding more software to acheive the required result.
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Where exactly is the input? I don't see it.
Cheeze[iT] said:
Where exactly is the input? I don't see it.
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SIP = software input panel = stupid archaic useless microsoft tiny keyboard popping up everywhere
WinMo was designer TEN YEARS AGO for 320x240, 32MB RAM devices, and has not changed to date... SHAME Microsoft...
I've dealt a lot with opera:config and I've not found where to disable it yet
can someone point to where the SIP is on Advance Config? Can't seem to find it. Thanks.
How do I set the htc keyboard to be default?
Start Menu -> Settings -> Input -> set your Inut Method as "Full QWERTY" if that's the HTC one. I'm suprised nobody answered you, it's quite simple.
My Bad, it doesn't work after restart.
When I use HW keyboard it always has ABC mode on. I have to use FN key and T9 key to choose T9 manually.
How can I enable T9 to be automatically ON when I use HW keyboard?
Thank you for your help
the t9 always works with a onscreen keyboard. Also if you manage it with a hack a problem would be to where the word suggestions should pop up on the screen.
when someone write a programme for your suggestion than it would be a custom keyboard without letters, only word suggestions and pops automaticly up when the keyboard on the pro is used.
Maybe someone already wrote it.
It would be nice trough
Search for the cab god damn it! There is a cab in one of the ezinput keyboard threads in dev & hacking that allows T9 to always be on (Yes, including the HW keyboard).
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Search for the cab god damn it! There is a cab in one of the ezinput keyboard threads in dev & hacking that allows T9 to always be on (Yes, including the HW keyboard).
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You don't happen to have a link to this cab at hand, do you? I for one would like to have the T9 always on (even with the hw keyboard), but did not manage to find the correct thread / cab even after an extensive search.
I searched with no result, unfortunately. If you could be so kind to address me to that cab, I would be very grateful indeed.
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I searched with no result, unfortunately. If you could be so kind to address me to that cab, I would be very grateful indeed.
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Oh that was so hard I almost had to use my brain
First result when searching on ezinput T9 always enable came up trumps...
DeadKeys / T9 as default behaviour for the Fn+Space combo - Full HW Keyboard phones
I thank you very much. Even if I walk around here for years, sometimes it happens that I am not able to find out things. Fortunately there are others who help
You're very welcome, glad to help.
Thanks for pointing out about the keyboard, did you test it and it works?
why not FN + Space It´s working at my device
Because I would like that when I slide out the keyboard I can immediately type with T9 on, without switching it on manually - this is the meaning of "automatically ON"
okaaaay. sry for that, but just tell me the sense of T9 with a "complete" keyboard!?? Do you also have T9 at your computer at home?
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okaaaay. sry for that, but just tell me the sense of T9 with a "complete" keyboard!?? Do you also have T9 at your computer at home?
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I see a couple of ways T9 is useful with the full keyboard.
1. Words like "won't" can be typed out with w-o-n-t rather than w-o-n-FN-'-t
2. It helps with long words. We can use the arrow keys to choose the word after a couple of letters rather than typing out the rest of the word.
There's a fundamental difference between the keyboard on a mobile device like the Rhodium and your desktop keyboard. On our Rhodium, we have only our 2 thumbs. On a full size desktop/notebook, we make use of all 10 of our fingers.
It seems that we are concentrating on why I have asked to have T9 ON, while I was asking HOW to have it on.
If you don't agree that it is a good thing that somebody finds out how to, simply don't post here
I never used T9 but it supposed to offer words from vocabulary? in my case it doesn't...
well, has someone found a way to make this work on landscape or hardware keyboard ??
having to always activa xt9 is boring ..
(that cab does not work) looking at the registry is changes from 1 to 0 when changing to landscape and it's the htc keyboard doing this. If you activate xt9 and change to the default windows keyboard it works but then you have a small keyboard when on portait.
I agree, the same thing happens to me. The easiest solution is to have it rotate to portrait, pull up the XT9 keyboard and then open the screen.
It's a pain, though. Would love another solution.
Dead key
None of CABs which can be found here are not working the way that if I will press Fn+Sym it acts as deadkey - always T9 dialog is shown. Have anybody idea how to change it?