So here is my problem. Last night my Cingular 8125's battery was around 15% remaining. So i plugged it in for the night to charge. When I plugged it in, the orange light turned on showing that it was charging. This morning I was laying in bed playing some games on it (no work yay!) and the orange light had turned to green (usually means full charge). Then I get up to go out for breakfast, I unplug my phone and throw it in my pocket. I get to the restaurant and pull it out to send a quick Text message, and the damn thing was OFF. I go hmmm, long story short, the battery had 0% left. Now, no more than 10 minutes earlier, it was plugged in, WORKING, with apparently a full charge (green light). Now when I plug it in to either a USB data cable to my computer, a cigarette lighter or a house charger, then orange charging light does not come on. I can't get it to turn on PERIOD. WTF is going on here. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. Also, are my appointments and stuff since my last Sync going to be gone? If so, )($*%)@(*%!!!!! But more importantly, I just want to know if this is something fixable or do I have to take it back to Cingular tomorrow morning? THANKS!!!
This is the first battery fialure I've heard about, but it's certainly a possibility.
As for your appointments, etc. - they should be OK, since WM5 uses persistent storage, all should be there.
Try plugging in the charger and see if you can check them. Also, try to back it up while plugged in, just in case.
This is the first battery fialure I've heard about, but it's certainly a possibility.
As for your appointments, etc. - they should be OK, since WM5 uses persistent storage, all should be there.
Try plugging in the charger and see if you can check them. Also, try to back it up while plugged in, just in case.
Mine did the same thing
I had a very similar experience. I was using my Qtak 9100 until the battery warning came on. I plugged it into my USB to charge overnight but for some reason it did not charge. It wouldn't even turn on. The USB charger would not get it running, the wall charger would not work either.
As far as I can tell the PPC uses a software driven smart charger. WM5 has to be running in order for the charger to work. My battery had gotten so low the OS couldn't run. I was screwed.
I ended up buying a new battery and things booted up fine. I'm now very careful with how low I let the battery go.
Leon.
Try this:
Remove the battery and the SIM card for about 8 hours, then reinsert both and plug it in again.
I think this might do it.
J-Mac said:
Try this:
Remove the battery and the SIM card for about 8 hours, then reinsert both and plug it in again.
I think this might do it.
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I wish I had seen this last night, because now I am going to the Cingular store and making them either give me a new battery or a new phone...luckily last night I had run a full backup with SPB backup while it was "charging." So hopefully everything will still be there.
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Hi,
My wizard run out of battery completly yesterday, I brought it home and try to recharge it, but no recharging light will appear.
I left it overnight connected to the mains but to no appeal,
I also removed the battery for a few minutes and then plug again but no luck.
I´m not using the mains provided adaptor but my travelling kit, a proporta mains/usb adaptor and a retractable sync/charge cable with a mini-usb pin cos I´m back home for Xmas and I don´t travel with the mains.
I have read about problems with some chargers from Boxwave, but I have consistently using this charging conbination since October.
Any ideas, should I send it back to expansys to repair, or is there anything else I can try?
Thanks
Elsral
same thing happened to me.. Supposely the phone will not charge from being completely dead without a charger that puts out 1amp. There is another method if you are a little brave... cut up an old car charger and hook it directly to the battery (red cord to + on battery and black to -) Read about it on howardforums and it worked like a champ. I only needed to jump the battery for about 30 seconds before I put it back in the phone and the amber light kicked on.. I was very relieved!!
Same happend to me yesterday. Simply plug the carger in and wait 1 or 2 seconds then switch the power button. After some seconds the carging light should switch on.
The wizard won't charge if it's switched off.
Export800,
you are a megastar,
I put apart a usb adaptor that I had built to charge my gps and I connected cables directly to battery for a minute and Voile,
tnx a million,
elsral
Xunil99 said:
Same happend to me yesterday. Simply plug the carger in and wait 1 or 2 seconds then switch the power button. After some seconds the carging light should switch on.
The wizard won't charge if it's switched off.
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But if the battery is totally dead surely the unit wont switch on ? Thus its a catch 22 ??? There is no power to switch on and the battery wont charge totally dead.
Ridiculous if you were caught out away from a charger and ended up having to pull apart a usb lead to get things back to life.
If the battery is so low, that the wizard switches off itself, and you connect the charger, it won't charge, because it's switched off.
Use the power of the charger to turn it on, then charging will beginn (and also the device will boot).
Xunil99 said:
If the battery is so low, that the wizard switches off itself, and you connect the charger, it won't charge, because it's switched off.
Use the power of the charger to turn it on, then charging will beginn (and also the device will boot).
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Can anyone else confirm this works as there have been many people having this problem. Simple solution if it works.
Switch off your device completely (hold the Power Button) and try to charge: Nothing happens. Now switch it on - charging begins.
I have noticed that last week, when battery was very low and i know that i would need my wizard in about half an hour. So i switched it off completely, so that it would charge faster and noticed that.
Yesterday when battery was totally dead i remembered that and i switched it on.
Btw, doesn't it damage the battery, if you connect it to 12 V (!!)??
Xunil99 said:
Switch off your device completely (hold the Power Button) and try to charge: Nothing happens. Now switch it on - charging begins.
I have noticed that last week, when battery was very low and i know that i would need my wizard in about half an hour. So i switched it off completely, so that it would charge faster and noticed that.
Yesterday when battery was totally dead i remembered that and i switched it on.
Btw, doesn't it damage the battery, if you connect it to 12 V (!!)??
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If I come across the problem will certainly be trying your method before I will be ripping into any usb leads
The same thing happened to me this past weekend. We were out camping and my MDA's (wizard) battery went completely dead. I had a USB sync cable for my laptop, but that would not revive the unit. I'm afraid the only way to bring it back to life is with the original OEM charger which has an output of 1 amp. Thanks for the post!
I had the same issue a while back. At first I thought the moto charger I had was dead but then I plugged in a old SMT5600 and it worked fine.
I left it plugged into my computer for a hour or so and finally I heard the "new usb device blip" from the other room and it started to charge. Guess I was lucky.
Same thing happened with my wifes SMT5600. The battery died and she couldn't get it to charge with her moto mini usb charger. I plugged it into my machine and a hour later the charging light came on.
I have heard that the Wizard will not charge from my laptop using a usb cable if it is completely drain. I find this to be NOT TRUE.
I ran out of juice twice last weekend. The thing about the Wizard is that, if it's completely drained, it will get stuck at the boot screen, and go no further.
Take out the battery to turn it off again. Put the battery back in, and then plug in your charger. DO NOT TURN IT BACK ON. It needs all the power it can get. Give it a minute, and you will see your orange charge light come on. Just leave it alone for several hours, and it will charge. This is my experience.
I got it! But, first the story.
None of the above methods helped me. I tried plugging it in to a big truck lighter, a pickup truck, even an ac adapter for my coleman cooler. Nothing!
However, I had a powered Pro-Clip mount that I had as a backup for the one I use. Guess what? THAT worked!
I think the cable makes the difference. Need to find the specs on those puppies. LOL
Thanks for the help.
I have tried my PC and the mains charger, the LED cycles from orange > off > green > off constantly, the phone shows it is charging but the battery keeps decreasing.
Only 30% left to try and find a fix for this, hard reset doesnt help!
Any ideas?
Same problem HD
I had the same problem with my HD ages ago (before HD2) I reflashed the rom and that fixed the problem. The other cause with a HD2 can be a non genuine USB-micro cable I used a Nokia and although the yellow light came on it never charged. I found out that the wire configuration in the nokia cable is diffrent to the HD2.
Hope this helps
srw985 said:
I have tried my PC and the mains charger, the LED cycles from orange > off > green > off constantly, the phone shows it is charging but the battery keeps decreasing.
Only 30% left to try and find a fix for this, hard reset doesnt help!
Any ideas?
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I have the same problem which started after i got a desktop charger.
At the moment I just switch to the spare battery that is in the charger.
I am currently searching to see if anyone else has had similar issues.
Of course I have loaded an official rom , just in case anyone suggests it but will not do mtty till I find evidence it helps.
lakeman
Strange, the only thing I could think of is the option in the battery screen to prevent the phone recharging when plugged into a PC - I have this ticked myself as it's not good for your battery to keep putting it on and off charge. However, it should still charge when plugged into the mains.
lakeman said:
I have the same problem which started after i got a desktop charger.
At the moment I just switch to the spare battery that is in the charger.
I am currently searching to see if anyone else has had similar issues.
Of course I have loaded an official rom , just in case anyone suggests it but will not do mtty till I find evidence it helps.
lakeman
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An update:
the non genuine battery may be the issue
I checked its capacity with htc tools and it seemed fine but needs to be fast charged in the desktop holder.
Anyway thats my theory so far.
Lakeman
Pagnell said:
Strange, the only thing I could think of is the option in the battery screen to prevent the phone recharging when plugged into a PC - I have this ticked myself as it's not good for your battery to keep putting it on and off charge. However, it should still charge when plugged into the mains.
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Thanks, I thought of this but sadly not so simple.
The problem was that the middle pin of the battery connector was slightly bent and just needed pushing back into place. I suggest you all try it as a search of the forum showed me its a common issue.
it only happens for non-genuine battery. just leave it charging over night. or get separate desktop charger for the non-genuine battery.
Similar but different problem...
Battery is genuine as is the USB lead and charger.
Phone is flashed to 1.66 factory Rom , unlocked via unlock code
Had phone for 3 weeks and no real problems , only ever charged on the comp/car via usb. On monday morning the battery was at about 8% so i dug out the mains charger for the first time to give it a fast charge by the time i was ready to go to work the battery was at 30%. On the 2 hr drive i left the phone on charge in the car.
On arrival i checked the phone for messages and it was frozen , i took the battery out and replaced it and the phone fired up with 8% charge.
When i picked the phone up after 2 hrs on charge in the car the bottom (between battery and usb slot was VERY warm.
in the office i put the phone on charge on the mains and no light came on , but the phone seemed to stay at 8% and the back below the battry got warm very quickly.
eventualy after lots of messing about the battery is dead , charging does nothing except mae it very warm.
went into the local t-mobile to get a new battery , they didn't have one but the girl in the shop had a hd2 so we tried her battery in my phone, phone fired up , but still woldn't charge.
Last desperate move i reset the phone to factory settings , still no charge.
Only 2 things happened to the phone prior to the charging issue
a) I activated Microsft Myphone
b) I put in a 16gb mem card
Anyone have any ideas what to try next ?
Return your phone for repair...
yeah its looking that way , just on the hope i missed something
Need some feedback, any one has had a bad battery yet? I had mine charging up to 85% yesterday and went back to bed thinking that today (sunday) morning will wake up and do some early stuff but I woke up late and had a dead Streak next to me. I left it charging overnight (I know it was only 15%) but you never know when you're going to need that extra juice. I tried turning it on, no luck, took the batt out tried turning on with only the mains plugged in, no go, I had blinking LEDS for a short moment then it turned off and that was it until I decided to jump start the phone (I don't recommend doing this to no one) with a BB Bold Battery (3.7V 1500mAh) all of a sudden I get the battery with exclamation mark, like I had a dead battery, I've only had the device for 2 weeks, also this is a Beta Unit I bought "AS-IS" but the problem was a simple restore and not the battery. now I manage to charge the battery in a raw way, just hot wired into a 4.2v DC. now the big question...
I'm at 40% battery it is draining very little, I would even say it is under normal operation, but i can't tell I don't have a SIM on it ATM. but I checked on "spare parts" to see status of the battery and it all seems ok but the bit that says BATTERY STATUS: discharging
No matter where I plugged the wire it is discharging, the phone is being detected on windows/mac any computer I plug, the phone does detect where the source is coming it says AC when I plug into the charger that came with, if I plug it into the USB of the computer it does says USB but it will never say charging, I even transfered files to the phone to test the wire, seems to me I have a crappy battery but just need more feedback, anyone has had this problem before? on any phone should I call Michael Dell and order another batt?
P.S. I have a BB Javelin had the same problem did jump started the battery and now the mobile is charging no probs and it DOES hold charge.
UPDATE: Ok guys any of you running 2.1 (8105) on your USA Beta (probably regular too) and have this issue about not charging, I went back to 1.6 (4399) issue is gone, I also had the crazy screen couldn't unlock/answer phone, will see if that is gone too, more than likely it is but I'm not 100% sure.
if it wont charge using usb or mains but only by jump starting it, then the streaks charging circuit is most probably f***ed.
I installed/flashed Gingerblur yesterday and it was working fine for the whole day. At night, I put it back into it's case because I'm still waiting for my New Screen Protector and Case to come. I take really good care of it. Then I did not use the phone for the whole day. After having a really bad day, I started up my brand new Atrix for some fun and it was already at around 5% battery left so I went ahead and tried to charge it. I noticed plugging it into the computer did not work, so I tried wall charging it and that also did not work.
To sum it up,
Symptoms:
-Green Led for 2-3 seconds when I hold down the top main button then shuts off led. Note: Only happens/works if the phone is plugged into the wall.
-Green Led for 4 or more seconds if I plug in wall charger then shuts off led.
-No visual image on screen after battery drained out at all.
What can I do? I don't think I bricked it since it was working perfectly yesterday. Is there anything I can do? I have tried removing battery with no avail, it is plugged in to the wall charger still for the past hour.
This is a very weird problem and I don't know the exact answer..I just know i bricked my atrix before (failed to flash on a full battery) and couldn't charge the dead battery even on AC.
I ended up buying a universal battery charger from radioshack and then returning it once I got my battery fully charged and flashed the rom. Haven't had any battery problems since.
Hope this helps
Thanks, I will try this but it is night time right now. I hope someone else has had experience of this before and can guide me to any other directions.
I did not fail a flash, unless the flash can fail even if Gingerblur was working 100% before it failed. I don't know if thats possible.
Are you using the usb cable/charger that came with the phone?
I know it sounds ridiculous but the phone does NOT charge on any of my existing MicroUSB cables or wall chargers (used to have a nexus one). Pretty bummed about that :/
Yeah I am using the one that came with it.
I also want to update that I've tried my sister's HTC Inspire charger and an old Samsung charger I have left around.
Both are USB to wall Adapters (I am not using the same wall power adapter for each charger) so I wonder if I need the one that plugs directly into the wall?
Yeah, you probably just have a dysfunctional battery or charger, either way, you're going to have to diagnose which one is the problem (fingers crossed that it isn't the phone)
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it sounds like its not the charger, from your most recent post.
I think your phone is the problem, it's not processing how to charge the battery from the cable.
Common problem. You need at least 850mA to charge the phone, so older usb ports wont work. The wall charger is actually working. Pull the battery out, put it back in, plug in the wall charger(don't press any buttons!) and let it sit for about 30min to get a decent charge. Should boot up after that.
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Common problem. You need at least 850mA to charge the phone, so older usb ports wont work. The wall charger is actually working. Pull the battery out, put it back in, plug in the wall charger(don't press any buttons!) and let it sit for about 30min to get a decent charge. Should boot up after that.
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Hm, it's been charging for over an hour now and still hasn't turned on. But I did not do it exactly as you said. I unplugged the battery acouple times but I always try to hold the "fingerprint" on button right after plugging it in. I'll try not pressing anything this time. Thanks, I'll post back if I get any results.
The phone should turn on if charging, you don't need 850mA either. Standard USB is 500 and it just charges slower. I know this for a fact as I just charged it like that.
Take it into a store or contact where you bought it from.
Plugging in phone while off: Green LED for a bit, moto logo, battery icon
Power on, no charger : green light for a bit longer, moto logo, boot animation.
Try an at&t stores charger and see if theyll let you charge the battery.
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Mgamerz said:
The phone should turn on if charging, you don't need 850mA either. Standard USB is 500 and it just charges slower.
Take it into a store or contact amazon support.
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With a dead battery you need 850 mAH. The phone needs 850 mA ti boot and it needs to boot to charge (strange yes but software controls the charge).
I would suggest trying all the chargers you can (the Moto one may be giving you to little amps) and if that does not work you can try to either 1) make a dev cable (post on how to in the dev section, though it requires soldering and such so you may not be able to do it if you don't have supplies) or 2) get a charger for the battery (one to directly charge the battery vice through the phone).
The battery method did not work, I did not try to hold the main button until 1 hour later to no avail. I'm going to Best Buy tomorrow for a replacement.
Edit: Oops..Too late to the party! I had the same issue that was fixed when I used a good quality micro-usb charger!
850ma? You sure?
I've charged and booted my phone from dead on a 700ma charger and 500ma usb on numerous occasions.
U need not worry .. put it in a wall charger .. and let it sit dere for atleast an hour .. the green led will come up when charge level reaches around 50% or more .. be patient ..
LivingChampion said:
I installed/flashed Gingerblur yesterday and it was working fine for the whole day. At night, I put it back into it's case because I'm still waiting for my New Screen Protector and Case to come. I take really good care of it. Then I did not use the phone for the whole day. After having a really bad day, I started up my brand new Atrix for some fun and it was already at around 5% battery left so I went ahead and tried to charge it. I noticed plugging it into the computer did not work, so I tried wall charging it and that also did not work.
To sum it up,
Symptoms:
-Green Led for 2-3 seconds when I hold down the top main button then shuts off led. Note: Only happens/works if the phone is plugged into the wall.
-Green Led for 4 or more seconds if I plug in wall charger then shuts off led.
-No visual image on screen after battery drained out at all.
What can I do? I don't think I bricked it since it was working perfectly yesterday. Is there anything I can do? I have tried removing battery with no avail, it is plugged in to the wall charger still for the past hour.
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I had the exact same issue the other day. I forgot to put my phone on charge at night, and it was dead in the morning. I plugged into the wall with my Moto charger, the phone turned on and went right to CWM. I rebooted from there, the phone showed 5% battery level, and within 10-15 minutes was at 20%.
I thought it strange my phone went right to the old Tenfar CWM even though I uninstalled it after unlocking my phone and installing the latest CWM from Tenfar.
It does seem that the shut off with the battery is 5%. I am assuming this is the safety factor built into either the Android OS, or the batteries themselves, as they do have circuits in them much like mini computers to shut them off before 100% discharge, as this will kill a Lithium Ion battery.
Some simple facts regarding the Lithium Ion batteries:
•They start degrading as soon as they leave the factory. They will only last two or three years from the date of manufacture whether you use them or not.
•They are extremely sensitive to high temperatures. Heat causes lithium-ion battery packs to degrade much faster than they normally would.
•If you completely discharge a lithium-ion battery, it is ruined.
•A lithium-ion battery pack must have an on-board computer to manage the battery. This makes them even more expensive than they already are.
•There is a small chance that, if a lithium-ion battery pack fails, it will burst into flame.
What I would like to know is why some people have problems getting a charge back in the Atrix after a complete discharge. There I was at 20% after 10-15 minutes using the Moto wall charger, while other people can't even get their phones to turn on after an hour on the wall charger.
I have the same problem, tried everything and finally found a solution
Get a warranty replacement.
The phone won't turn on, so they don't know what you did to it.
Got my new phone today, popped the dead battery in and voila, it charges !
Sometimes it's like people say, it's because of the charge, but your phone probably have issue, just get a replacement
I let it charge all night and it still has the same symptoms. Going to Best Buy in an hour when it opens.
When I get my new phone, should I Gingerblur it again or am I going to face this same issue? Was this software related or hardware?
Gingerblur was relatively easy to do, but I don't want to risk killing my phone a second time.
UPDATE: Got a replacement phone. Complementing whether I want to Gingerblur it again because that's the only thing that could have caused the battery issue other than it being hardware related.
LivingChampion said:
I let it charge all night and it still has the same symptoms. Going to Best Buy in an hour when it opens.
When I get my new phone, should I Gingerblur it again or am I going to face this same issue? Was this software related or hardware?
Gingerblur was relatively easy to do, but I don't want to risk killing my phone a second time.
UPDATE: Got a replacement phone. Complementing whether I want to Gingerblur it again because that's the only thing that could have caused the battery issue other than it being hardware related.
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You can try it again should work fine for you. If not...
You can always use their phone and your "dead battery" and visa versa theirs into your phone. Then if same issue happens. Just warranty the phone. If your in warranty do it. I've had g1's for no reason not charge. Led says it, os says it, yet NONE of my working batteries were getting any charge off the phone. Especially when the phone was 3 days old. Warranty.... if its free do it.
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850ma? You sure?
I've charged and booted my phone from dead on a 700ma charger and 500ma usb on numerous occasions.
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Well, according to motorola it needs that much... so you never know
Ciloteille said:
You can try it again should work fine for you. If not...
You can always use their phone and your "dead battery" and visa versa theirs into your phone. Then if same issue happens. Just warranty the phone. If your in warranty do it. I've had g1's for no reason not charge. Led says it, os says it, yet NONE of my working batteries were getting any charge off the phone. Especially when the phone was 3 days old. Warranty.... if its free do it.
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Yes if warranty then ok .. But we are here to do the impossible.. I just reconditioned a new battery just so it can turn phone on in same instance for a friend. So yes batteries and phones new can have charging issues.
There is an issue with smart-phones and batteries and has been since day one. If you are here then evidently you either love these phones and want to mod them or you are like me and love playing with electronics. Real simple if you in the smart-phone world there are a few rules of thumb..
1.) Never begin working without a fully charged battery (some say 51% or better I say 100% )
2.) Buy , borrow , get an external battery charger and/or stronger wall charger
3.) Extra batteries are always good.
4.) Read the damn stickies and wiki's ... People have taken plenty of time creating them. Those who know me know I have written some myself.
5.) The biggest problem is located between the chair and the keyboard .... (lol)
EDIT: My model is I9505
Whilst on holidays, I took my phone out of my bag (when I knew it was getting close to flat) to find it not turning on. I assumed the battery was dead, but when I plugged it into the charger it didn't charge. I fiddled around a bit, and eventually got the vibration and charging light - but it kept turning off before the green battery came on saying charging. Being on holidays I didn't have my USB jig, or even external battery charger with me. I assumed it was a loose connection with the charging port - as every time I tried to plug it into charge it would only sporadically say that it was charging - but never get past the picture of the battery and the swirling icon (prior to the green battery coming up).
Upon arriving home, I got out my external charger, took out the battery, charged it for a few hours, then tried it. Again - it wouldn't turn on.
I then tried plugging the phone in again - but to the 800mA charging doc micro USB, insteead of the standard 2 amp. Straight away I get the charging picture, and the little graphic showing me the phone is about 1% charged. I leave it, the screen goes off. I come back 15mins later, the phone is RIDICULOUSLY hot, and the screen off. I unplug and replug to find the battery is still at about the same 1% level. I turn the phone on - it boots, shows 1/2% and then turns off as soon as I unplug it from the dock - even if I plug it straight into a 2 amp charger. I now decide that maybe the battery itself is the issue - and it's not holding charge. So I whiz out and buy two replacement batteries (MPJ ones, as they were fairly cheap - and this was just for the sake of finding the issue).
I charge one for about an hour on the external charger (the phone didn't turn on when I put the battery straight in). Then put it in - same deal. Nothing. I plug it into the dock micro-USB out to charge - again it comes up as charging, and shows at about 1%. I turn it on, and again am shown 1/2% charge, and again as soon as I unplug from the micro USB dock it turns itself off.
It is almost as if the phone isn't taking any power from batteries, and only direct from the power outlet itself. I'm unsure what could possibly have caused this. I can only think it may have been an external battery which I was using for a while on holidays (which had a 1amp micro USB out, that I was using to try and keep my phone charged). That is the only thing I have done different over this period (at least as far as I can recall!)
So basically - in short:
i) Phone won't turn on unless plugged in to a low amp charger (Computer USB, dock micro USB out etc)
ii) Even after charging batteries in external charger (two different external chargers have been tried) the phone is showing 1/2% battery
iii) The phone turns off a few seconds after I unplug it from the power source.
Any ideas!? I will take the phone to get repaired after Christmas (if they still repair it, as it's running a custom ROM).
BTW. a USB jig worked for the first time this afternoon - when I tried it not long after taking the phone off the dock. It's also worth noting that the phone is ridiculously hot when on the dock (around the camera/sim/micro SD area).
Googling there seem to be a few in similar situations.
This YouTube shows it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5B2By7fGII
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abbaskip said:
Googling there seem to be a few in similar situations.
This YouTube shows it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5B2By7fGII
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did you even try with a spare battery? can you check if your battery swollen? it might be the battery's fault
Repulsa said:
did you even try with a spare battery? can you check if your battery swollen? it might be the battery's fault
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Hi, thanks for the response.
As mentioned in my first post, battery was what I thought was the issue at one stage, but I've tried two other batteries too. The original battery isn't swollen, but in any case I'm having the same issue with the other batteries.
I've tried charging them all on external charger before using them in the phone, and I get the same issues regardless of what I do.
It just seems strange that the phone switches on (now showing 0%) when plugged in, but not when unplugged.
And the batteries aren't being read properly, as they show 0% regardless of how long I pre-charge for.
Experimenting tonight, I've found that if I try to boot into recovery - even when plugged into dock, it dies before it even gets into recover.
Yet, if I boot the phone, I get to the main Android launcher/lockscreen before it dies...
Really has me baffled.
abbaskip said:
Experimenting tonight, I've found that if I try to boot into recovery - even when plugged into dock, it dies before it even gets into recover.
Yet, if I boot the phone, I get to the main Android launcher/lockscreen before it dies...
Really has me baffled.
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Hello again, if you have any spare battery and its has 50 or 100% try to reflash the rom just to see the results. or try a different chargers and cables as well, If it all fails, i think you should send it to Samsung for the warranty. Software problems are somewhat easier to fix here than hardware, so your best option is to let Samsung handle it.
Repulsa said:
Hello again, if you have any spare battery and its has 50 or 100% try to reflash the rom just to see the results. or try a different chargers and cables as well, If it all fails, i think you should send it to Samsung for the warranty. Software problems are somewhat easier to fix here than hardware, so your best option is to let Samsung handle it.
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Thanks again for your response, but you're clearly not reading what my issue is before making suggestions. As I have now said twice - I have tried three batteries, and batteries that I have charged for hours on an external charger before using. But they still come up at 0%. Not sure how you imagine I flash a ROM
It may be a matter of taking it to my dealer it seems. If anyone else has suggestions before I get to that (after Christmas) it'd be much appreciated
The batteries fully charged on external chargers and I'm still getting the same issues.
I'm hoping it's not kernel related. Can anyone confirm that if it makes it to download mode Werth a jig (but turns off after a few seconds) that this would be a hardware issue? It only turns on with the jig when it's straight off the charger though - so seems it's still not using the battery for power, almost residual power somewhere.
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abbaskip said:
EDIT: My model is I9505
Whilst on holidays, I took my phone out of my bag (when I knew it was getting close to flat) to find it not turning on. I assumed the battery was dead, but when I plugged it into the charger it didn't charge. I fiddled around a bit, and eventually got the vibration and charging light - but it kept turning off before the green battery came on saying charging. Being on holidays I didn't have my USB jig, or even external battery charger with me. I assumed it was a loose connection with the charging port - as every time I tried to plug it into charge it would only sporadically say that it was charging - but never get past the picture of the battery and the swirling icon (prior to the green battery coming up).
Upon arriving home, I got out my external charger, took out the battery, charged it for a few hours, then tried it. Again - it wouldn't turn on.
I then tried plugging the phone in again - but to the 800mA charging doc micro USB, insteead of the standard 2 amp. Straight away I get the charging picture, and the little graphic showing me the phone is about 1% charged. I leave it, the screen goes off. I come back 15mins later, the phone is RIDICULOUSLY hot, and the screen off. I unplug and replug to find the battery is still at about the same 1% level. I turn the phone on - it boots, shows 1/2% and then turns off as soon as I unplug it from the dock - even if I plug it straight into a 2 amp charger. I now decide that maybe the battery itself is the issue - and it's not holding charge. So I whiz out and buy two replacement batteries (MPJ ones, as they were fairly cheap - and this was just for the sake of finding the issue).
I charge one for about an hour on the external charger (the phone didn't turn on when I put the battery straight in). Then put it in - same deal. Nothing. I plug it into the dock micro-USB out to charge - again it comes up as charging, and shows at about 1%. I turn it on, and again am shown 1/2% charge, and again as soon as I unplug from the micro USB dock it turns itself off.
It is almost as if the phone isn't taking any power from batteries, and only direct from the power outlet itself. I'm unsure what could possibly have caused this. I can only think it may have been an external battery which I was using for a while on holidays (which had a 1amp micro USB out, that I was using to try and keep my phone charged). That is the only thing I have done different over this period (at least as far as I can recall!)
So basically - in short:
i) Phone won't turn on unless plugged in to a low amp charger (Computer USB, dock micro USB out etc)
ii) Even after charging batteries in external charger (two different external chargers have been tried) the phone is showing 1/2% battery
iii) The phone turns off a few seconds after I unplug it from the power source.
Any ideas!? I will take the phone to get repaired after Christmas (if they still repair it, as it's running a custom ROM).
BTW. a USB jig worked for the first time this afternoon - when I tried it not long after taking the phone off the dock. It's also worth noting that the phone is ridiculously hot when on the dock (around the camera/sim/micro SD area).
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In my view its a fault of charging IC . Since you have tried with replacing battery.
nishangrg said:
In my view its a fault of charging IC . Since you have tried with replacing battery.
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Sorry, what is charging IC? If it was a charging fault, a fully charged battery would work wouldn't it?
So I took my phone to my SP - Telstra. The phone, being only about 6 months old, was still within warranty period. Not surprisingly, Telstra have said that as there is a Custom ROM on the phone, the warranty is voided. I stated that my understanding is that under Australian law, as it is a hardware fault, and not a fault caused by the ROM, the warranty still stands - however Telstra wouldn't budge and said I have 5 days to decide if I want to pay the $300+ for the repair.
What is my next course of action? Has anybody had a similar issue previously? Is the TIO the next port of call? Or should I be going to NSW Department of Fair Trading?
I'm sure I've read previously that phones are still covered under warranty after rooting etc, if it can be shown that it's a hardware fault, not a software fault. As the battery doesn't seem to be powering the phone, this clearly seems to be the case - esp. as it is the same in download mode and recovery mode.
Any help would be great. Please don't post pointing out that I rooted my phone so THAT's my own fault etc. These posts aren't helpful, I already have know that.
So I took my phone to my SP - Telstra. The phone, being only about 6 months old, was still within warranty period. Not surprisingly, Telstra have said that as there is a Custom ROM on the phone, the warranty is voided. I stated that my understanding is that under Australian law, as it is a hardware fault, and not a fault caused by the ROM, the warranty still stands - however Telstra wouldn't budge and said I have 5 days to decide if I want to pay the $300+ for the repair.
What is my next course of action? Has anybody had a similar issue previously? Is the TIO the next port of call? Or should I be going to NSW Department of Fair Trading?
I'm sure I've read previously that phones are still covered under warranty after rooting etc, if it can be shown that it's a hardware fault, not a software fault. As the battery doesn't seem to be powering the phone, this clearly seems to be the case - esp. as it is the same in download mode and recovery mode.
Any help would be great. Please don't post pointing out that I rooted my phone so THAT's my own fault etc. These posts aren't helpful, I already have know that.