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Tmo MDA radio sticks or resets

After I picked up the MDA I noticed that occasionally, while attempting an EDGE connection, the radio would appear to reset. Signal bars would disappear and the dots under the antenna would appear. The data connection would never take place and as far as I could tell the radio reset. This occurred several times in the course of a day. So did a hard reset on the phone which I hadn't done since picking it up. Now the symptom appears to have changed. Instead of it appearing to reset, it appears to "stick". Indicated signal strength never changes, the data connection is never actually made and eventually I turn the radio off and back on again via flight mode. Again, this only seems to happen while attempting a data connection, either EDGE or GPRS.
I've written Tmo support but I'm curious if this has happened to anyone else or if it may be a problem with my specific phone. And never having had a problem like this before, should I take the phone back to the store and ask for a replacement or do I need to hear that from Tmo?
Thanks!

I have a Cingular 8125 on TMO network and have the basically the same problem. GPRS/EDGE would occasionally stop working. Once it begins to "hang", I would notice the radio icon lose the bars and the dots would appear. However, It would reset on its own after a minute or two. This happens a number of times a day. Annoying the crap outta me.

The MDA ships with an older version of the radio rom. Maybe it would help if you updated it.

kamskii said:
I have a Cingular 8125 on TMO network and have the basically the same problem. GPRS/EDGE would occasionally stop working. Once it begins to "hang", I would notice the radio icon lose the bars and the dots would appear. However, It would reset on its own after a minute or two. This happens a number of times a day. Annoying the crap outta me.
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yeah, that's the one. I'll see what Tmo has to say, I'm sure as hell not flashing a phone that's days old and well within the warranty period. In the off chance it's software, I did another hard reset and prevented it from installing the extrom stuff.
update: Customer support asked me to try another SIM, which I did. When that didn't help, they told me to bring it back and they'd give me another one. Hopefully that'll be the end of it.

hi,
have the same problem. I just "loose" the signal and it searches, searches .... and again. SR or flight mode on/off usually helps. but its really getting annoying. I have feeling it is in places where there is a weak signal (but just opinio, not a proven fact). Sometimes happens, sometimes not at all. Dont know what to do about it.

I've noticed the same with the Cingular 8125 on Cingular's network. The radio version is 1.09.11. I am wondering if the later radio version would make a difference?

exchguy said:
I've noticed the same with the Cingular 8125 on Cingular's network. The radio version is 1.09.11. I am wondering if the later radio version would make a difference?
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I upgraded the Radio rom on my 8125 to 1.13.10. I *think* it helped, but to be honest, it still happens. I also now, as a habit, turn off GPRS by pressing the red button for 5 seconds. This seems to help a bit too.
It's really a crapshoot. There are times when I can stay connected to GPRS for hours and hours, while other days i would get kicked within minutes. When the 2.8.7.102 rom is officially released, I will load that in hopes of fixing this problem.

I've had this same problem for months no matter device I use. At first I thought it was because I was using non T-mobile branded phones, but since using devices like the T809 as a modem and the MDA I get the same problem, edge/gprs would connect and stop working/hang after while. Most likely its a network issue, and this didn't start happening to me until T-mobile released edge data service. I'm actually a sales rep for tmo and haven't heard anything from tech support.

I've not had it happen with 1.12.10 (I think) - NOT the 1.13 version, but the one before it. Flashed it the other day - perfect since. The stock T-Mo radio ROM did it once in a while, usually in a poor signal area.

Old Problem
This happened on my Treo 600 on T-Mobile. The problem seems to be city-specific, so it happened in Pasadena frequently but not in DC.

hi, i just got the tmobile MDA and everything works perfect, i dont seem to have the problem of the GPRS, the only problem i have is that the sound of the phone is too low. any suggestions?
P.S. whats the website to download updates and softwares for it?
thanks
PETER

Genesis3 said:
I've not had it happen with 1.12.10 (I think) - NOT the 1.13 version, but the one before it. Flashed it the other day - perfect since. The stock T-Mo radio ROM did it once in a while, usually in a poor signal area.
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Yep, that was my experience exactly, I haven't had a problem even once since flashing 1.12. Thought about trying 1.13 but didn't want to push my luck. The phone seems to be 100% now.

MDA/T-Mobile: Radio Searching / Loses Connection - HELP ME!!

This is starting to REALLY get on my nerves.
I keep losing my radio/cell signal, and it does not come back for about 5 minutes. Sometimes it doesn't come back at all, and I have to reboot the device - then it still takes a minute or three (or four) when the device reboots.
This is happening in a place I regularly go - a coffee shop (among manu other places): I walk in with the phone in my pocket. I get a cup of coffee, and go and sit outside. When I take out my MDA, I have no signal. I can see the stupid "searching" symbol - searching away to no avail. If I leave the phone on the table in front of me, after about five or ten minutes, it will suddenly get a signal, and jumps up to *four full bars*. Sometimes though, it will never get a signal, and I have to reboot the device.
The signal from T-Mobile is perfect outside this coffee shop. I get a maximum signal (when I finally get one). My other T-Mobile phone gets a signal just fine as well.
This happens a lot. I actually had to make a 911 call a while ago, over at a clients. Guess what? No signal! Searching... Finally the signal came back in time, and I was able to make the 911 call.
I am using the CUSTOM_RUU_Prodigy_2170702_217_20710_TMO_US ROM. Looks likethe radio is version 2.17.72 or 02.07.10 (or maybe that's the OS?
HELP ME!!!!!

I tooooo have this problem!
oh my goodness!!! I have been having the same exact problem since purchasing the MDA!! Somebody please help us!!!!

I tooooo have this problem!
oh my goodness!!! I have been having the same exact problem since purchasing the MDA!! Somebody please help us!!!!

call does not end automatically

sometimes while speaking to someone the sound of the 8525 goes blank and i am unable to end the call and the timer keeps running till eventually it ends by itself usually a min or minute a half after. this occasionally happens also when the person on the other line ends their call.
help me!!

oh yeah, when it ends call, i lose service and i have to wait for the phone to pick up reception before i can call the person again

I am sure that one of the more experienced members may have a better idea, but I had this problem in low signal areas when I was on radio 1.34. It stopped happening when I upgraded to 1.38 and so far hasn't happened on 1.40.
Something to try anyway.

This happens to me quite frequently in my house!!
Next time this happens notice if the network indicator has dropped from U to G during your call. When it happens on my 8525, the call wont terminate. So many times while im in my house ill band tab switch to GSM just so it does not do this..
I had one go for 63 minutes in my pocket once... so i checked my usage, and it was only shown as the 2 minute call I actually had. So it did hang up from the network, but my phone was blissfully unaware. I'm not so sure however if someone else called it would have rung.
Hope this helps, let us know if it's changing from U to G !

intrglctcrevfnk said:
This happens to me quite frequently in my house!!
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Seems like you have the same issue I had at work, two low level signals and it hangs trying to switch between continually. Has upgrading the radio helped you at all, or was it just coincidence for me?

im currently on radio 1.38, maybe if i switch over to 1.40 ill see, but i will def keep tabs if the network goes from U to G.

thanks for the help guys i switched my network from "any" to "gsm" only, and so far so good, i guess the problem was when the network would switch over from gsm to wcdma im not totally sure. anyway i chose GSM as the network it should always be on, and the network indicator always has an E on the top. is it fine if i keep it at GSM or will i run into problems/ or not recieve full benefits of something? some1 please educate me thanks

Help: Need help figuring if this is a phone issue or carrier issue...

Ok, I've had an 8525 unlocked for about 3 months now... Unlocked and used on t-mobile's network...
Until recently, I've had 0 issues with my phone from what I can remember(now running PDAs v20 windows 6.1 rom)
My problem is, during the day, in my room I recieve any and every phone call that comes in, calls never drop or hang up, BUT the call seems to cut out for about 5-15 seconds and then cut back in.. even though it says I have 4 bars.. in my kitchen with 4 bars, I get all my phone calls, but can't hear people (nor can they hear me at all)... I get emails, and browse the web fine.. but can't use google maps app (can't find my location until I leave lol)
I don't know what's up... at night, when I'm in my room, my phone works fine with no cutting out and in during calls, but during the day, that's when it wants to act all crazy... other t-mobile phones work perfectly fine in my room... my old sidekick also worked fine..
when I'm anywhere else in my city, my phone works fine (even with 2 bars)
I know nothing about how cell phones work when communicating with cell towers so any help someone can give me will be very helpful as I do not want to catch an aneurism calling T-Mobile themselves for help (though I doubt they'll help me since I'm using an unlocked ATT phone on their service lol)
Also... sometimes txt messages come and give me a time like it's in another time-zone... usually this happens when I'm out of state roaming on a different network (Immix in central PA for the most part) but now it seems to be popping up even while I'm home in NY...
any ideas?

seems like some kind of interference near your home...could be a carrier tower or even your TV? You could check with tmob if others in the hood are having day issues...
not sure what radio version u have, but u could try flashing a different one...

I've tried numerous radio's but having the same issues... it's some kind of interference in my house I guess.. I just can't figure out what it is... I called up t-mobile and was embarassed when he said "oh u have an ATT phone" lol he told me to switch sim cards with someone else on t-mobile in my home to see what happened... but.. no progress... I unplugged my wifi router to see if that would help but it didn't
I just find it completely odd that my service craps out on me in my room ONLY during the day... and it never did this when I first got the phone.. I'm completely lost... good news is, it only happens in my house...

Could be someone close by has just invested in a piece of equipment that is causing interference.. Might not be just in your place...

yeah, another thing that MIGHT be causing the interference is that they have been doing a lot of road work in my area... that could also be why it happens during the day but not at night... my kitchen is a different story, but different radio's have gave me different reception... with some radio's... it fades out completely and with others it'll fade out for maybe a second or 2
or it could be my neighbor who recently had a stroke, I guess there might be some machines in there.. who knows
I tried the latest radio and it yielded the best results in my kitchen so far but man oh man does it burn battery when I'm on the phone

I'm having the same problem...well as far as the text msgs go so i called tmobile last night and they took me off the network and placed me back on and since then I havent had any problems

Update: I put my GF's att sim card in my phone and went to all my "dead spots"... even when the signal bars were down to almost 0, the quality of the call was still clear and it wouldn't fade in and out during a call... Does anyone know if there's anything T-Mobile can do? Because I tried my moms sim card in my phone (t-mobile) and gave me the same crappy results (calls fading in and out at full 4 bar signal)

[Q] my G2 loses service, restart brings it back

hey everyone
so my G2, which I absolutely love, has been having a problem lately. in the first week it happened maybe once and i didn't think much of it, but since Friday it's happened like 8 times now. I'll be sitting there with my G2 and all the sudden I have no service whatsoever. Just an x on the signal strength indicator. 1 or 2 times it has come back after a minute or two, but the other times I had to turn the phone off and back on. the weird part is I'm not moving at all, totally sitting still, but when it comes back on I have FULL bars with HSPA+. so it's not like I walked into an area that didn't get good reception.
any idea what's going on? i looked around but didn't see other people having this issue. any ideas?
thanks

alright well at least i'm not alone. i remember that rumored OTA update was supposed to have some radio bugfixes. maybe when the real OTA update comes it will have something to fix this. i hope so.

I have been trying to diagnose this issue on my phone too.
By any chance, do either of you have your BT on at the time?

Happens to mine as described and I have never turned on bluetooth. However this would also happen to my G1 so I think its a network thing personally.

Yeah, it definitely is. I have 2 areas that it happens in, both are while I am in my car and I have BT on in my car. When I ran it without BT, did not happen.
I have found that when I am in those area's, turning off 3G stops it entirely, even with BT on, so when in my car, I set edge and still use my BT and problem is gone.
I hope this is temporary and an OTA can fix the handoff from 3G to Edge and back better so that I can stop this, but this works well enough.

Mine has done that also, maybe once a week for the past 3 weeks.
Judging by the other problems you can have Id say this one isnt that bad. Especially if it only happens once a week haha. This is the only problem I have with my phone.

no bluetooth...
no no bluetooth on, i never do actually... but also my G1 never did this, which makes me think it's NOT a network thing, but I don't know.
also I'm sure this is just coincidence but it almost always happens when my girlfriend is nearby with her T-Mobile Blackberry Curve. i know it wouldn't make any sense, but she's sitting there on the same network with full service and all the sudden my G2 loses service completely, right next to her... although it's not always while she's there, but like the majority of the times she's been there.

I just started another post to check on something, I have widgets that show me when I am connected to 3G and when I am connected to H. I have noticed that the phone is activity managing that connection. In other word, it is in 3G until data is transfered then it goes to H. I wonder if when we are in areas of "questionable" HSDPA signal if this hand off is causing the problems.
I have seen a lot of op's say that there problems come right after some data activity?
Just a guess a this point

i saw someone mention in another post that it happens after/during a text message alot of times. i haven't noticed that myself, but that's something to think about too.

robinsmy1 said:
I just started another post to check on something, I have widgets that show me when I am connected to 3G and when I am connected to H. I have noticed that the phone is activity managing that connection. In other word, it is in 3G until data is transfered then it goes to H. I wonder if when we are in areas of "questionable" HSDPA signal if this hand off is causing the problems.
I have seen a lot of op's say that there problems come right after some data activity?
Just a guess a this point
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What I've heard is that the phone will stay in 3G mode until you begin using data in order to save battery life. Makes sense to me.