Atom's keypad problem, super-HUGE problem! - iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom General

Ok, on a beautiful day [aka 2 days back], I turned on the Atom and realized that there's a weirdest problem I've ever seen. It seems like the "up-arrow" button (or "north" in the d-pad) is being pressed all the time without being released. If I activate the start menu, for example, it would just automatically going through all the items bottom to top and back again.
First I thought it was a software problem, so I soft-reset it several times. That didn't help. But I found out something. If the atom was soft-reset, the problem does not appear until a hardware button is pressed [ie you can enjoy the touch-screen all you want]
So, I tried hard-resetting. Didn't help either. So I talked to myself, why not try some different ROM? So I did, tried it with 2 older ROMs from O2 (I have all the ROMs released). Didn't help.
It was frustrating because along with "keypad problem" you get another one free: there's no way to turn off the Atom. Try it yourself, holding an arrow button and press the power one, see if it turned off. So, I left the battery drain, just to see how it'd be.
After an afternoon, the atom drained completely. So I had to recharged it and wait. Surprisingly, after charged again, the problem seemed to go away! Thank god...
Now, I was trying to reproduce the problem again but no luck (or should I call it luck). After a few hours leaving it alone, when turned on, it was doing it again! I was so mad, I would have banged the thing on to the wall if I had another phone to use atm. Anyways, I left it to drain the battery and there it was, working again, for the whole night
This morning, when I woke up, guess what, it was doing it AGAIN!!! I'm so desparate now. Tell me what to do, please.
Thanks for going thru the problem w/ me. This is, by far, the weirdest and most frustrating problem I've ever experienced.

Stuck Button?
Hey I had a problem like this with my Wizard 8125 except it was with the Wireless Manager Button, acting as if it was always being pressed. I tried all the same things you did, but the only thing that solved it was taking it apart, blowing out any dust and making sure nothing like particles or sand or dirt was lodged between the button and the sensor. I guess you could try this and take your Atom apart. I have an Atom now but I don't know how to take it apart. Maybe search for the Technical manual on the web or on this site.
I hope this helps!

Thanks pelicantacos. However, being an all-thumb as I am, I don't think I have the courage to do it. But it's good to know one probable cause. Thanks again.

one more possibilities:
you have water between sensors. After you regarge, temperature go up (from battery), and water go out....

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exec goes into continuos loop thing

Just got a s/h exec and I think it is faulty. Whats happens is it starts up ok and works for a while and then for no reason that I can think of it goes into a loop which stops it from working.
When I say a loop I'm not sure thats the right terminology but imagine if you tapped the start button and the start menu opens... and then imagine you tapped the tab button , the next item would highlight. If you tapped the tab button again the next item would highlight and so on. Well its as if the tab button is being hit over and over because all the items in the start menu will be highlighted one after the other over and over again.... it just goes round and round in a loop.
Its possible to escape from this and go to another screen but the same looping will go on in that screen too.
If you switch off and leave for a while and come back to it it works ok for a short time and thens starts the carry on again.
Sometimes if you just wait a while it stops, but will start doing it again even if you dont touch anything.
I've noticed one way to force it to stop is to slide the volume button... this seems to stop the loop and allows normal function for a while.... then the crazy looping starts again.
Has anyone seen this or know anything about it.
Nope sorry, maybe you can have it replaced where you bought it as from your post, you can recreate the problem easily.
Side Note : Have you tried Hard Resetting? Or installing another ROM?
I have tried hard resets and factory reset... problem remains.
Will try new ROM.... just trying to figure out how to do it !
weegee said:
I have tried hard resets and factory reset... problem remains.
Will try new ROM.... just trying to figure out how to do it !
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Just download a new ROM form imate or something, unpack all the files in the ROM update to a directory, put the attached file in same directory.
Enter bootloader mode (Backlight + Power + Reset Hole) you will see SERAIL on the screen but not backlight so look hard.
Plug into PC, the SERIAL will change to USB
Run the attached file. You will see a photo of an S100 but continue anyway....
Hard reset when finished... DOne
ok have installed latest rom... but exec still doing loop loop
Just for arguments sake, can you try installing Imate's newest ROM?
yea thats the one i have just put on.
It seems to be doing the problem less than before. I notice that it does stop if i press the backlight key or move the sound slider.
I'm wondering if there is dust or dirt got in behind the buttons or something like that... although I would have thought other people would have come across this b4 if that was the problem. The machine is one of the first to come out, although I just got it a couple of days ago.
weegee said:
yea thats the one i have just put on.
It seems to be doing the problem less than before. I notice that it does stop if i press the backlight key or move the sound slider.
I'm wondering if there is dust or dirt got in behind the buttons or something like that... although I would have thought other people would have come across this b4 if that was the problem. The machine is one of the first to come out, although I just got it a couple of days ago.
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If you have tried different ROM flavors and still get the same problem, then it is definitely hardware related. Send your unit in and demand for a new one not a repair
Just been playing around with it again and notice that I can make the problem happen if i press any of the keys on the navigation pad except the top one.... and i can stop the loop by pressing the light button.
Weird or what.
My initial thought on this is maybe its got wet at some point
I have opened the xda up and stripped it down to all its parts. No sign of any dampness or dust dirt etc. Dont see anything missing or broken.
Put back together, but still doing this.
Driving me nuts.... its a great machine but is very tiresom to use with this going on.
Another think I notice about this machine, I have never used it as a phone, but I tried putting a sim card in and There is no sound through the earpiece. Only sound comes from the speakers when you set it to speaker phone.
I suggest just return it and have it replaced. It's probably a faulty button. Probably gets stuck whenever you press it.
Doesnt need a button to be pressed for it to start.. just starts by itself... and can stop by itself too.
Sometimes it can for ages without doing it, other times it does it all the time.
Cant figure if its hardware or software problem
GHOST-IN-THE-MACHINE
Yea... maybe I should get a priest !
I had this problem when i first got mine, if you move the sound slider down, then up, it seems to stop doing it for a while, and it hasn't happened in the last couple of weeks atall, maybe its because its new, and just needs to settle in?
Jay
Well at least I'm not the only one to have it.
My sound slider does stop it happening but only for a while and then it starts up again.
The machine is perfect in every other way, its just an annoyance I could do without.
I've tried everything, even stripped it down and left parts out, like buttons, to see if they are the source, but no difference.
I have the same problem!!!!!!!!!
Someone help please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have same problem. I send to service but until today they can't repair that problem.

Help With 8525!?!?!?!

So Yesterday for no reason at all my 8525's screen went white. i thought it had frozen or some thing but it didn't snap out of it. I pressed the ok button on the side and could hear noise. I decided to restart. Nothing. Did this like 7 times. Finally I let it sit without the battery for like an hour. I worked but the colors were all messed up. Reset and it worked fine. So i set my alarm went to sleep and woke this morning to an email and a white screen. Turning it on and off a couple of times did it and I was already frustrated.
Then I read on a forum about Activesync automatically opening throughout the day to try and connect. So I tweaked that to manual connections. Still the same. So I decided to take advantage of the warranty but I needed to set back my rom b/c as you already know, it voids it. Also thinking that re-flashing might get rid of whatever it was failing in. No, still the same, and now worse. As or an hour ago, my navigation pad doesn't work either. It actually works for about a second when I turn it on and then after I press anything on the pad or surrounding buttons, it's gone.
I really would like to fix it myself at least for now and use the warranty exchange at about 11 months but if theres nothing I can do, I guess I can go get a new one. Also, I don't know if it has anything to do with it, but I downloaded Google Maps to my phone yesterday on the road (through 3G) and that was the only new program installed( I think it mightve been this).
Has this happened to anyone else?
Any help would be much appreciated. I hope I explained enough for anyone to respond. Thank you in advance to anyone with anything really.
Actually if you do a search under white screen you'll find many entries. Any attempt to fix yourself will void the warranty. If you are lucky it may only be the d-pad connector that is loose. This it is possible to check yourself but if have a warranty then I suggesting using it.
Otherwise see the link to my site in my signature for dismantling and service manual guides.
Mike
Thanks. You know I think I will take advantage of the warranty sometime this week. I don't know what happened. But I'm to update my situation. It now seems as though my directional pad seems to be the problem. it glitches on and off and using it sometimes creates the fade-out to white screen. I have to let it go to standby on its own to get my screen back or play around turning it on and off for a bit.
Also, once i re-installed me ATT rom with no applications, my screen seems to be off. I have a 1/32th sliver of the bottom of the screen at the top of my touchscreen. Even in landscape it shows my scroll bar and everything. I didn't even drop it but it is now slightly skewed down. Any input on this?
I also found this website talking about the same problem having with and unorthodox solution (which I tried to no avail). Here's the link if anyone want to check this out. http://www.htcwiki.com/page/AT&T+8525+Display+issues:+Display+is+dim,+blank,+white,+has+lines,+etc.?t=anon
Anyways, I'm gonna call ATT about this see if they can help but I think I will replace, I just didn't want to so soon.
Thanks again for the quick answer.
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Thanks. You know I think I will take advantage of the warranty sometime this week. I don't know what happened. But I'm to update my situation. It now seems as though my directional pad seems to be the problem. it glitches on and off and using it sometimes creates the fade-out to white screen. I have to let it go to standby on its own to get my screen back or play around turning it on and off for a bit.
Also, once i re-installed me ATT rom with no applications, my screen seems to be off. I have a 1/32th sliver of the bottom of the screen at the top of my touchscreen. Even in landscape it shows my scroll bar and everything. I didn't even drop it but it is now slightly skewed down. Any input on this?
I also found this website talking about the same problem having with and unorthodox solution (which I tried to no avail). Here's the link if anyone want to check this out. http://www.htcwiki.com/page/AT&T+8525+Display+issues:+Display+is+dim,+blank,+white,+has+lines,+etc.?t=anon
Anyways, I'm gonna call ATT about this see if they can help but I think I will replace, I just didn't want to so soon.
Thanks again for the quick answer.
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Everything they suggest on that site you have tried I guess, the soft and hard resets etc.
I agree with you about the d-pad (directional buttons). Those with this problem often report that the d-pad or it's connector are re;lated to this issue.
Pleased you have chosen the warranty route. You see evn if you opened it up, it can work for a short while and then return again. Also push hard for replacement not repair. They may do this automatically but if not try to persuade them. The reason is that quite a few folks have reported that even after an HTC repair the problem can come back. Actually I think there may be more than one physical cause of this issue and sorting one thing does not mean it won't come back via another route.
The good news is, if you get a good one as I did on the second attempt, I never had white screen or alignment issues - despite heavy use.
Mike
Once again, thank you Mike for all your input. I will be issuing an order for replacement instead of repair. Being at work all day today I've seen that it hasn't "whited' out, if you will, but has actually kept working. Ever so often the d-pad goes but comes back in a few seconds. It may be due to the WM6 i had on it so for now i will keep the original ATT upgrade of WM5 and try to hold off on the warranty as long as I can before it expires. That way I can enjoy a healthy new 8525 longer.
For now I will keep looking around in these forums and see if there ever is a solid solution. Thanks again, and good luck with all.
CKent

is there any solution to "screen can't switch on"?

at the begining , my HD is fine.
But , after 2month , the phone has some rotation problem( it doesn;t matter, as you can solve it by pressing the on/off buttom )
But now, the phone's screen can't switch on, when i touch the four buttom on the surface of phone, it still vibrate..just i can't switch on the screen"
i have already tried all the things like take out the battery, press the reset buttom... the problem still occur,
Screen can sometime turn on luckily~
but, if the phone's screen is switched off for a while, the problem still occur..
can any professional heal my phone?
likashing said:
at the begining , my HD is fine.
But , after 2month , the phone has some rotation problem( it doesn;t matter, as you can solve it by pressing the on/off buttom )
But now, the phone's screen can't switch on, when i touch the four buttom on the surface of phone, it still vibrate..just i can't switch on the screen"
i have already tried all the things like take out the battery, press the reset buttom... the problem still occur,
Screen can sometime turn on luckily~
but, if the phone's screen is switched off for a while, the problem still occur..
can any professional heal my phone?
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Obvious questions: Have you tried a hard reset?, Diff rom? Have you loaded up anything weird that mighta casued issues? If it will do a hard reset then do it. Start from scratch. If it works then be mindful of what you reload it with. If that doesn't get it, try a diff rom. At this point you got nothing to lose. Will it go into bootloader mode?
Battery comes to mind also. Have you run it down to nothing? Sometimes that will affect the charging capabilities. When the screen is dark can you still hear sound? Def do the HR.
My suggestion would be, to give the HD to your reseller and get it fixed.
I have had the same problem, and as my HD also didn't connect to my PC anymore, I send it in, and got a brand new one, because they couldn't fix it. Make a backup while you can, because the problem will get worse over time.
Likashing, the same exact thing started to happen to me a couple days ago. I've hard reset and flashed a new ROM. It seems that the problem is intermittent. After I just let the phone sit for a few minutes, the screen will come back on. It makes me wonder if this is heat-related issue. Anyway, I'm screwed, because I have no warranty since I bought it from a guy in Australia (I'm in US and needed the T8285).
I'll definitely be keeping an eye here to see if there's any resolution other than repair.
while the screen does not turn on, have you maybe tried to use another phone to call your HD and check if the screen turns on when the call arrives?
maybe if the screen turns on it's more a software related issue (so hardreset et cetera might be worth a try), if not, i fear it's hardware
crashDebug said:
while the screen does not turn on, have you maybe tried to use another phone to call your HD and check if the screen turns on when the call arrives?
maybe if the screen turns on it's more a software related issue (so hardreset et cetera might be worth a try), if not, i fear it's hardware
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Good point crashDebug... I will definitely try that the next time the behavior is exhibited (right now is one of those times where I can't intentionally duplicate the issue... of course!)
stpete111 said:
Likashing, the same exact thing started to happen to me a couple days ago. I've hard reset and flashed a new ROM. It seems that the problem is intermittent. After I just let the phone sit for a few minutes, the screen will come back on. It makes me wonder if this is heat-related issue. Anyway, I'm screwed, because I have no warranty since I bought it from a guy in Australia (I'm in US and needed the T8285).
I'll definitely be keeping an eye here to see if there's any resolution other than repair.
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...i have no warranty too....
in Taiwan , there are couple of people have these situation, the maintenance staff working Htc, said that it is a motherboard problem or the screen problem...but i wonder that why only few people have this problem. My phone is completely fine before i flash the HSPl1.56OLINEX.but when i try to flash back to Hspl 1.4 , the problem still happen.....
cbreze said:
Obvious questions: Have you tried a hard reset?, Diff rom? Have you loaded up anything weird that mighta casued issues? If it will do a hard reset then do it. Start from scratch. If it works then be mindful of what you reload it with. If that doesn't get it, try a diff rom. At this point you got nothing to lose. Will it go into bootloader mode?
Battery comes to mind also. Have you run it down to nothing? Sometimes that will affect the charging capabilities. When the screen is dark can you still hear sound? Def do the HR.
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i have tried diff rom and diff HSPL....
sometimes, the phone's screen still can turn on luckily, then i can go to bootloader mode, but if the phone sit for a while, the phone's screen can't turn on...then i can't get into bootloader. ..
i can hear sound when someone phone me...but the screen still keep dark!
Exactly same problem here
HTC purchased in Sweden.
Cant switch screen on, when incoming calls come it rings but no screen alive. Vibration when pressing the buttons at bottom. And the low battery sound i can here when low on battery.
When connecting it to charger the orange light at power button will not light up (orange) as usually.
My problems started when i had the HTC in my jacket pocket, a VERY rainy day, so the phone was moist OBS not wet. Thats what i beleive ghappened to my phone.
And now i can not find the purchase receipt to the phone
It might be entirely unrelated, but the screen on my THD also had the same problems immediately after a few flights from coast to upcountry 1800m elevation during summer. The system powered up but the display remained off, and no amount of fiddling would switch it on.
The first time it took a few hours and then spontaneously corrected itself. The second time I had to remove the battery for two days, and then all was fine again. Only happened after flights from coast in summer. It hasn't happened again, but then it's winter here in the southern hemisphere.
I suspect condensation, but that's only a guess...
I have the same problem too here in Australia. It started with the screen not turning on but the buttons still work. Then you'll sometimes notice the screen is inverted and upside-down.
I've sent mine in for service. Haven't got it back yet but I understand the motherboard needs to be replaced.
In short, this is definitely a hardware problem and if you look around the discussions on the net, this is slowly becoming quite a common problem with HD.
forumx said:
I have the same problem too here in Australia. It started with the screen not turning on but the buttons still work. Then you'll sometimes notice the screen is inverted and upside-down.
I've sent mine in for service. Haven't got it back yet but I understand the motherboard needs to be replaced.
In short, this is definitely a hardware problem and if you look around the discussions on the net, this is slowly becoming quite a common problem with HD.
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Yes exactly, I have had the upside down screen too! Well at the very least it is good to know that people are experiencing this problem other than me. I love this phone so I will have to pay to for the repair. If anyone here has any idea or estimate of what this will cost, please share this here.
The problem for me was the moist, after three days it started to react again... And now it seems to be working...
I guess the air up in the mountains are moist... maybe...
AddeBC said:
The problem for me was the moist, after three days it started to react again... And now it seems to be working...
I guess the air up in the mountains are moist... maybe...
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So then that's two people so far (including AFW from the first page) who have said that after some situations involving moisture have passed, things are back in working order. I hope for the same to happen soon.
so it is due mainly to wateR?
leobox1 said:
so it is due mainly to wateR?
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I doubt it is related to water. My device never gets near water or moisture and still experience this problem. I do wonder if it is heat related as the device can get quite hot during charging and perhaps cause the motherboard to play up after a while.
btw, does any of you use some sort of plastic/silicone cover. I wonder whether this type of cover blocks the heat from dispersing.
As i understand it, so far only people who have flashed a different ROM (and with it maybe radios) to their device. If it's a heat issue it could be something to do with the radio version. I have tried different radios and there was one in particular that heated my phone up like crazy while i was listening to music without the screen on (but i don't recall which one it was).
I only used stock rom and never flash my device and still have problem...
forumx said:
I doubt it is related to water. My device never gets near water or moisture and still experience this problem. I do wonder if it is heat related as the device can get quite hot during charging and perhaps cause the motherboard to play up after a while.
btw, does any of you use some sort of plastic/silicone cover. I wonder whether this type of cover blocks the heat from dispersing.
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I do not have any type of cover on mine.
I agree with the possibility of it being a heat issue though.
Very perplexing. This past weekend I again travelled from Joburg to the coast (from 1800m elevation to sea level), and again the THD screen stopped responding to input whilst at the coast. I desperately fiddled, reflashed, hard reset at least 10 times to see if I could get the screen to work, but it always booted up locked, and no amount of fiddling would do anything. I even put the thing on an oil heater for a few hours, hoping that if condensation was the culprit (my current theory) then a goodly dose of heat would at least evaporate any moisture, and once, for about a minute the screen responded, and then again went dead to touch. I had to use another phone all weekend. This evening, on returning to Joburg, I resolved to get another device, maybe the Diamond 2. After a few hours back home I retrieved the THD, put in the SIM and, lo and behold, it worked fine. This is most vexing, but I fear the THD will have to go -- I just can't live with this unreliability. Sad, really, because I love the big display, I love the fact that guys like Throy are cooking good ROMs. In many ways the THD is about the best out there, at least for my needs. But that &@&* thing has to be reliable.

HD2 Touch Screen Not Responding

Hi Guys i hope somebody who knows about capacitive touch screens can help me! I have taken my HD2 apart to fix a smashed camera lense. On removing the back cover i used a small screwdriver to prise off the back case and unclip it all round. It came off with no problem, i fixed the camera and put it back together. When i turned the device back on the touch screen isn't responding to my finger on any screen. Like i turned the touch screen off! The hard buttons still wok but nothing from the screen. Nothing looks damaged (I.e the glass isn't smashed). I seem to think i might have damaged something when prising the cover off with the screwdriver. Please, any suggestions would be really helpful!!!
Can anybody out there help with this? I am currently without a phone :-(
I have exactly the same problem, but it happened from nowhere. I didnot unscrew anything. Please Help
Check the flex cable.. this part are very delicate.
is this :
http://img.diytrade.com/cdimg/92507...creen_Full_LCD_for_HTC_Touch_HD2_HD_2_LEO.jpg
same problem
ive got the same problem, mine just stopped working, i performed a soft and hard reset, removed the battery still nothing. it worked for a moment but once locked it stopped working again, only the hard buttons.
same problem but it works on and off. basically the screen will respond until the phone is put into hibernate. the after that id have to push the phone button and end button back and forth until it responds
Same Issue independant of ROM
Same issue here.
Funny thing is it started a week or two ago randomly out of the blue.
Same scenario:
lock the phone can't get touchscreen to respond for unlock
Judging by these posts everyone started seeing this about the same time, maybe it's a software issue or background app .
Help!
I have same problem. It can work for a couple of hours or in 1-2 days then just stop responding, almost every time when in hibernate. Lets just hope it's not hardware failure.
This started happening to me this morning. Out of 50 tries, managed to unlock the phone three times only. This happened out of the blue, right after i removed my phone from the charger.
Have soft reset, hard reset, reflashed ROM, but the issue still remains.
I really really hope this is not a hardware issue.
Does anyone out there know how to solve this? My phone is virtually unusable right now...
Same problem here, I've been testing for about 2,5 months now and today I've sent mine back to HTC . I think it's a hardware problem, tried everything from hard resetting to reflashing. When I press the HTC logo and keep it pressed the screen does respond again. Conclusion: hardware problem.
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Same problem here, I've been testing for about 2,5 months now and today I've sent mine back to HTC . I think it's a hardware problem, tried everything from hard resetting to reflashing. When I press the HTC logo and keep it pressed the screen does respond again. Conclusion: hardware problem.
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You're probably right.
I've also tried everything. But kind of strange that if I lock when not on home tab it seems to work. And the screen, almost always, reacts as it should as long as I just dont' lock it.
I just started to get this issue. touch screen works fine until it hibernates. reflashed, still happens. found this in my search:
htcphones.net/htc-hd2-problems-with-touchscreen/
just got off the phone with tmo. they are sending me a new one.
Yeah, it happened to me as well. I opened a new thread like a month ago explaining the problem: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=710282&styleid=15
and I contributed in another one concerning the same issue here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=708530
Summing all up, it ain't caused by a software or a ROM of some kind (at least in my case) because soft and hard resets didn't solve it nor did the flash of a stock ROM. The most probable cause is a digitizer (touchscreen) defect that appears randomly and totally out of the blue. The only thing to do in my opinion is to send the phone in for repair, which I did. It came back with a check mark on "calibrated screen" checkbox. As of now phone's working fine and I hope they solved it even though I read of other people who have had their leo's screens completely replaced..
A curious side note: htc care reset to zero my phone's call duration timers..
I'm not sure if it's the screen. In my case I think it's the connector from the screen to the motherboard, because pressing the housing seems to help.
But let's see if HTC is able to repair it, I hope they are, because the problem is so random they might not even see it
After losing functionality on my touch screen for a week, finally decided to send it in. Took the trouble to revert my HSPL to original and Stock Rom.
Repair should take about a week. Now I'm stuck with an ancient Nokia 6230i for this week. I feel so lost without my ppc. Have had one for as long as I can remember.
Hopefully the phone comes back okay...
I've had so much problem with the screen not responding so I did all backup then reflashed, hard reset to put the device back to stock. Did this during the weekend, I even fired up my old iphone 3g to have as backup phone.
All set today to go to the store and have it repared under warranty.
But since Sunday evening it works perfect. I've been testing it a lot and the screen has not stop responding even once.
This might be just temporarily but does anyone else experienced something like this?
Mine sometimes worked well for hours... days... but eventually the problem came back.
Mine died on me when I was actually out of the country (stuck in Vietnam without a phone). It would work for 5 minutes, then stop for hours. I would have to switch my phone on and off for a couple hundred times before it worked for another 5 minutes...
Got so tired of it that i sent back my HD2 for warranty repair. Expect it to be back tomorrow (or Friday at the latest). Hope there's no further problems with it.
I hate to say it, but the HD2 is known for its highly defective touchscreen. Even when it's working, a lot of people experience strange and bothering events, such as the touchscreen "touching" itself, a very high/very low screen sensitivity all of a sudden, the tilting of the screen to one of the four corners of the device and so on and so forth.
With a device so expensive one would expect it to work flawlessly. Seems to me that HTC doesn't think the way we do...

Digitizer gone - but not completely dead... Any advice? [VIDEO]

Hey my lovely XDA-ers, I'm really hoping for some magic here...
Yesterday my HD2 digitizer just stopped working... the Touchscreen will not respond to any inputs. It was bitterly cold outside so I was half hoping that an overnight stay in a warm room would help, but no avail...
The thing is, on one in every 5 restarts, I get a small amount of life from it. One one in 15 restarts, I get full use. So there's still life in there.
I could understand if it broke because I dropped the phone/squashed it, but at the time I was just playing Robo Defence, completely normal use, when all of a sudden it stopped responding.
I've uploaded a video, which shows how, occasionally, the bottom fifth of the screen works. However, as shown, when I'm using the top half of the screen, the digitizer appears to be receiving input from the bottom of the screen, as though I'm trying to perform a multi-touch action. For this reason I'm hoping there still be some way to rescue the phone without an expensive repair job. I bought it in March from XDA Marketplace, and it's served me faithfully since, but because of that I do not think I have the manufacturer's guarentee, or insurance
I've hard-reset, I've reflashed my ROM, I've tried in both WM and Android (my usual OS at the moment), I've reflashed over WM ROMs, and the problem stays the same... (also read all related threads!)
Sorry for inverted nature of vid!
So does anyone have any suggestions to try? Otherwise I might go through a £130 repair service on htcrepairs.co.uk - they do not show up on a forum search so I was wondering if anyone had used their service before?
Thanks all, appreciate any ideas.
Edd
Very odd indeed. I don't have a solution for your problem, but a suggestion. It is a long shot, but might help.
Whenever i had similar problems with my Wizard (i know, kind of old but one of the best older devices every made by HTC), i opened it and cleaned it from the inside and checked all the connections of keyboard, touchscreen, etc. to the mainboard. Sometimes it helped...
In the end, if you buy the replacement kit, you anyway have to open the HD2, so why not try this in prior to buying the kit...
A lot of people seem to have this problem. There's a lot of information on it here. Do a search. But the short answer is its a hardware problem. If your phone is still under warranty send it back. I think HTC will fix it for free if It's less than a year old. But try your carrier first.
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BAD NEWS...
i had EXACTLY this happen to me. eventually it totally stopped responding. Only option is to replace the digitizer.
GOOD NEWS..
After a month of searching, I found a really good guy to do it. www.iexpertstudio.com . The owner is VINCE. you can email him on his site. He charged $110 including mailing it back to me. He replaced the LCD and digitizer and sent it back. All works perfectly now.
I see you are in the UK so dont know if it makes sense to send it to the US. Alternative is to go on ebay and buy the screen/digitizer and replace it yourself.
(BTW normally i would have chucked the device, but even after 1 year I still dont think there is as versatile a device as the HD2. Had the DHD been 3G useable in the US I would have bought one.)
Thanks for the feedback guys, I've been doing some investigation my end (and you're right, there are similar threads on here, but none which had a "half-screen working" problem.)
I've narrowed the culprit down to my "Back" button. It's somehow exerting pressure on the screen, leading to either a non-responsive digitizer or an input at the bottom of the screen.
I might add this to an entry in the "ANDROID KILLS YOUR BUTTONS" thread
My choice is to live manually with it, or get the company mentioned in the first post to give it a good clean, but whether it's worth £80 just yet is a question for me.
Anyway, thanks for your input, guess this thread will close, but to any readers in future, if your screen seems to die, see if it's pressure on the screen caused by the buttons!
I can totally support your reasoning.
I haven't had any problems whatsoever with the touchscreen in almost a year of honoured career of this phone, while this morning I was trying to unlock it with no success (nothing special happened, I even used it 10 minutes this morning already). At first I thought it was the usual "sleepy" behaviour of the screen right after waking up, butafter sliding down the hdmini style unlocker at least 10 times with no effect I really started freaking out :O
I have longpress endkey set on instant reboot, and after that it seemed working... just not for too long.
To cut to the chase, what in my opinion supports your idea of hardware buttons interfering is:
sometimes, as I have LMT installed, with the tap&hold option enabled, swiping with just one finger triggered double swype instead (as if the screen detected a second, firm press on the screen elsewhere even if I sure as heck was swyping with one finger)
using mymobiler didn't work as well; if it was a hardware touchscreen problem, mymobiler should work, as it simulates touches, so it will just do its job even if the touchscreen is totally dead... while, IF the hardware touchscreen detected a firm press somewhere, mymobiler wasn't able to actively simulate another press
repeatedly pressing on the end key (which seems to be the culprit in my case) apparently solves the problem, as I can use the touchscreen again; also, a prolonged cycle of hibernating with end key, waking with end key, swyping down the hdmini lock (repeat at libitum) seemed to work, as if I dislodged something by activating the button so often
What I don't understand anyway is: HOW can a button pressing on the digitizer be exerting a touch action? If this was a resistive screen, I'd understand, but it's capacitive, and not even capacitive pens are so good as fingers in activating the touch. The buttons are just plastic with a metal contact underneath, and this metal contact shoudl by no means be anywhere near the digitizer.
Bah.
I know I have 2 years warranty on this device, but being far from my phone during the warranty processing gives me the creeps, so I'll just go on using it and pray this to be the defaillance of one sunday morning not to be seen again... after several soft resets (and fantasizing about a new rom flash, which I need anyway for other reasons) the problem seems to have settled by delicately bashing on the end key. The unlock slider is responsive after every wake up now... FOR now.
Praying...
My screen also died. So the only thing I have to do is press on the end key for a couple of times to make it work again?
lol, that's ONE possibility.
Just saying, in my case it worked, and still does since it happened once more this evening, so it's definitely got something to do with the hardware keys messing around (and hopefully dislodging themself for good, or I'll have to send it back for servicing), anyway in your case it could also be a dead digitizer, so no go
let's put all this about touch screen in 1 sticky thread pls.
I've been living for the problem for about three weeks now. It's never got worse, but never got better. It's a livable situation so for the moment I'll deal with it. I might check with HT about warranty, but it's not yet bothersom enough to make me want to flash back to stock, send it off etc. etc.
smeddy said:
I've been living for the problem for about three weeks now. It's never got worse, but never got better. It's a livable situation so for the moment I'll deal with it. I might check with HT about warranty, but it's not yet bothersom enough to make me want to flash back to stock, send it off etc. etc.
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ditto.
Actually, I don't like having paid good money for a defective phone, but being without HD2 for up to a couple of weeks to one month (maybe? have no idea how fast HTC servicing is) is troublesome. I may buy for a deal a blue angel as a spare, yet, no GPS...
The most problematic event is if you get the "stuck" screen during a call.
In my case, it's the end key that messes it up; if the screen's dead, pressing twice the end key, firmly enough (once for screen off, then again for screen back on) wakes up the screen, and apparently, during a ringing incoming call, you can press the hardware end key without rejecting it, so it's a viable option (not taking into consideration the fact that trying to wake up the screen takes time, and the caller may give up after a while if you're not fast enough).
But if for any reason the screen gets stuck while the call is connected, I am stuck too, as to wake it up I should press the end key thus hanging on the other party.
Sad story.
EDIT: forget what I wrote, pressing end key while phone is ringing WILL reject the call. I tried it before during a real incoming call and apparently it didn't do it, but now it just did.
I also have a HD with a dead screen....
Only thing here is I have sent it back twice already to TelSuck here in Australia only to have it returned after the tech has wiped it over and reflashed it for me... What helpful little imps they are!
Code:
http://www.youtube.com/v/T6ssqmpRIB0
Its drivin me nuts sending it away for 3 weeks at a time to have someone with just enough grey matter to be able to wield a screwdriver tell me nothing is wrong.
Happy to try any suggestions!
@insinr8
this thread is just for half-dead screens where the screen sometimes actually works. Unless you can resurrect it by firmly pressing on the hardware keys, but if it's dead on a regular basis, then it's not our same problem I'm afraid :-(
@OP
while having an "attack", did you try plugging out the microsd to see if it magically solved the problem?
I mean, if it did, it would still be a hardware problem related to the microsd slot, since there is no point for a faulty microsd to mess up the touchscreen, and let it work from time to time
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@insinr8
this thread is just for half-dead screens where the screen sometimes actually works. Unless you can resurrect it by firmly pressing on the hardware keys, but if it's dead on a regular basis, then it's not our same problem I'm afraid :-(
@OP
while having an "attack", did you try plugging out the microsd to see if it magically solved the problem?
I mean, if it did, it would still be a hardware problem related to the microsd slot, since there is no point for a faulty microsd to mess up the touchscreen, and let it work from time to time
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I will try that - it seems to happen more frequently when plugged in and charging, and now more buttons seem to be the cause/fix (e.g. now the home-button, or when I am on home-screens the phone will swipe "left", whereas before it would swipe "right". I'll keep playing.
I may check out HTC as I reckon my warranty, if I have one, will run out soon... Will still wait til after Xmas as I need my toy for the boring bits of Xmas!
I'm having same trouble now whit my phone except problems started mouth ago. After some period I again power up my phone and suddenly everything worked perfectly. Unfortunately this last only for two days and then exactly same problems happened, partially function screen.
As far as I know only good solution is replacing digitizer... I already ordered one for me.
exactly the same problem for me.. I sent it back with warranty yesterday
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I may check out HTC as I reckon my warranty, if I have one, will run out soon... Will still wait til after Xmas as I need my toy for the boring bits of Xmas!
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Ditto.
Actually, my warranty lasts two years, which means until 2012, anyway I cannot stand risking to lose calls because the screen dies on me in the wrong moment, and the only way to wake it up is pressing the endkey (which by the way is the only "cure", and apparently never the cause).
I will be uploading a video on youtube regarding this, also to show it to the guys at the HTC support who will be asking me to hard reset and reflash until annoyed to death (as if that will solve anything)
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This is the video that I just uploaded to youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3-PNYwpYeI
EDIT: One day after, the problem has become way more frequent, 1 out of three times I wake up the phone, diugitizer is dead and I need the " on the end key to make it work
Uploaded another video on youtube with problem showing on vanilla lockscreen so HTC support doesn't try and tell me it's CHT lockscreen's fault
Last bump.
Screen has ben promoted from "hardware key problem" to "permanent death".
Now I can use the phone with mymobiler, but I can't anymore with touch, I seem to not be able even to wake it up even by pressing on end key
Re-flashing last official rom upgrade now to see if anything changes... yeah,sure
Ouch - good luck, hope mine doesn't go that way...

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