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Will TomTom Navigator 5.x work with the Universal?

Hi, I'm hoping to get the new Windows Mobile 5 device dubbed the HTC Universal, AKA o2 xda Exec.
TomTom tell me TomTom Navigator 5 is NOT compatible with it.
www.mobilefun.co.uk state that it is compatible.
Some people on forums say they have 5.1 working with the device.
Other people state the Bluetooth won't lock in.
Does anyone here know the truth?

Yes it will work
It works. I use TT 5.1 about every day (via a bluetooth receiver). Here's the instructions to install the program.
http://www.pocketgps.co.uk/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=28171&highlight=
Go about half way down.
To install your BT GPS receiver. First pair the device. Then add a new COM Port under the Bluetooth settings. You want to add an OUTGOING port. I usually specify it as COM0. Then start up TT5, go into GPS configuration, selct "Other BT Receiver", then select COM0 from the menu. TOMTOM will automatically start up BT (it doesn't have to on before you launch the program), find the already paired receiver and start communicating with (give it some time though. the whole process takes about 30 seconds to a minute).
Hope this helps.

Cool, thanks!
And finally... I assume the Universal can support 2 simultaneous bluetooth connections? E.g. can I use TomTom with the bluetooth GPS at the same time as speaking on a bluetooth car kit?

To keep things simple
Tomtom 5.0 does NOT work with the Universal. Tomtom 5.1 Does. Hpoe this helps

Received my T-Mobile UK MDA PRO today. I can confirm that TomTom 5.1 DOES work great on it with any bluetooth GPS device, although it was a few hours before I stumbled upon a thread in this forum which had instructions on how to get it working

jasjar works fine with tt5.1 and can connect at same time with gps,headset and many bluetooth devices

Re: To keep things simple
mikeycollins13 said:
Tomtom 5.0 does NOT work with the Universal. Tomtom 5.1 Does. Hpoe this helps
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Yes it does. I have 5.0 running on my JASJAR now. Haven't upgraded to 5.1 yet in case it breaks something.

just replace the tomtom navigator.exe with the 5.1 version, all done.

How on earth did you manage to get TT5.0 to work?
I have tried everything (all the above tricka and then some) and cannot get the right com port to show up from within Tomtom? Can you tell me step by step?

How on earth did you manage to get TT5.0 to work?
I have tried everything (all the above tricka and then some) and cannot get the right com port to show up from within Tomtom? Can you tell me step by step?

Re: How on earth did you manage to get TT5.0 to work?
mikeycollins13 said:
I have tried everything (all the above tricka and then some) and cannot get the right com port to show up from within Tomtom? Can you tell me step by step?
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It does work, if you follow the guide in this thread exactly:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=28386
However, I had to use COM4 instead of COM0.
I also had a problem where I connected everything to the right COM port, could see TomTom accessing the GPS device by the LEDs, but still "no GPS device found!" - it seems TomTom likes your GPS device better if it's actually locked onto a signal (so go outside!), give all this a try

...talking of TTN5....
Has anyone had any success getting TT working with the Wired GPS mouse? Is there a way to connect it to the Exec...?(mini USB to serial connector?)
If the 2 can be physically connected, does the software see it/connect up properly?
TIA
cheers
Paul

FYI, I emailed TOMTOM about the installer crashing, and guess what they said. "TOMTOM 5 is not supported on the IMATE JasJar."
What a load of cobblers. It works perfectly well if you install it using the cab files. TOMTOM support is the biggest load of s**t I have ever come across.

JJ works fine with the following:
1) Navigon MN 5
2) TT 5.1
3) OnCourse Navigator
4) iGuidance
These have been tried and tested.

Just cause it's not supported it doesn't mean they don't think it'll work. it just means that they won't help you fix it if it goes wrong becuase they have not tested on that platform. always worth a try regardless of what the vendor or devlopers say!

Another MDA Pro with TT5
I just got an MDA Pro a couple of weeks ago, and being the fool I am, bought a copy of Tom Tom 5 from Fleabay (doh!).
On receipt, I could not get the software to load from my PC, and when trying to copy over the cab files manually, the ttn.cab file will not load on the PDA. On closer inspection, this has got something to do with 'Bekonl' so appers I have wasted some money on cracked software that does not work.
Is this right? Or if I can obtain an alternative ttn.cab file, will it load, if so will it be locked? I was just looking for a reasonable low priced SatNav solution - but this is proving to be harder than I thought!

For those of you coming from a WM2003 device you can simply install TomTom on a memory card on that. Take the memory card out and put in Universal. It works. That's it.

I am not unfortunately. I am coming from a Mk1 paper diary, a £3.99 map from the petrol station, and a bullet proof Nokia 6310i!
All help gratefully received though.

Tuscan said:
I am not unfortunately. I am coming from a Mk1 paper diary, a £3.99 map from the petrol station, and a bullet proof Nokia 6310i!
All help gratefully received though.
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If the ttn cab fails to install try this;
uninstall all tomtom entries from remove programs.
Remove sd card from device
install gps.cab
soft reset (this is the important bit)
install ttn.cab

JJ
JJ works fine with Oziexplorer, Tomtom5x
:wink:

TomTom 5.21 on mini s

im having a nightmare!!! after reading through hundreds of forums to get tomtom 5 on the xda mini s i finally manged to install tomtom 5.21 on my device but now i have a problem, a couple of forums advised to just install 5.21 not version 5 (not compatible with wm5). 5.21 installs perfectly, i have all the maps and voices, but now as i have obtained the tomtom 5.21 update when i get past the voice section it tells me to enter a product code, i only have a copy of tomtom 5 so i havent got a product code. is there anyway round this????? ive tried a crack 5.21 but it just tells me when i try to install it on my device "tomtom failed to start"
anyone got any step by step suggestions its driving me crazy!!!!

straffs said:
im having a nightmare!!! after reading through hundreds of forums to get tomtom 5 on the xda mini s i finally manged to install tomtom 5.21 on my device but now i have a problem, a couple of forums advised to just install 5.21 not version 5 (not compatible with wm5). 5.21 installs perfectly, i have all the maps and voices, but now as i have obtained the tomtom 5.21 update when i get past the voice section it tells me to enter a product code, i only have a copy of tomtom 5 so i havent got a product code. is there anyway round this????? ive tried a crack 5.21 but it just tells me when i try to install it on my device "tomtom failed to start"
anyone got any step by step suggestions its driving me crazy!!!!
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I do not think you will find a hack for this at the moment...

Just use your original product code, but that is just a beginning of nightmares. Bluetooth does not work with GPS devices. That is a present from Microsoft. You would think with new version compatibility would improve. Well, let's just wait for M-soft updates.

@peralex:
That's complete nonsense!
You just need to pair the wizard with the gps, assign a new outgoing port (COM6 by default) DO NOT CHECK THE SECURE CONNECTION CHECKBOX!
Turn off the wizard, turn it on, now start TTN5.21 WITHOUT manually enabling BT. (TTN enables it for you) Then select 'other BT GPS' on COM6 and voila, wait for a fix and navigate away.
@Topicstarter
Your TTN5 product key should work with 5.21.

well thats the thing i need a crack so i dont have to enter a product code, because the ttn5 is a copy i dont have a product code!

Wow, I did not know that you have to go through the whole voodoo ritual to enable simple GPS, but thanks, I will try it.

peralex said:
Wow, I did not know that you have to go through the whole voodoo ritual to enable simple GPS, but thanks, I will try it.
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Remember to stick a needle in your styrofoam dummy gps receiver before switching the real thing on!

By word simple I did not mean "styrofoam" and from respect to this forum I am not going into BS with you MoFo.

I've been using the Atom since early Jan and TomTom 5.21 is the program thats not working, it's also a program that I really badly need.
But I am having big problems trying to get it to work
I've got a crack version and it installs fine but when it comes to selecting a voice.. it always freezes and goes no further.
I've been trying for days and nights but i'm getting nowhere
Can someone please help or advise me!!
Many thanks.

peralex said:
By word simple I did not mean "styrofoam" and from respect to this forum I am not going into BS with you MoFo.
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Dude, keep your shirt on. Try reading a post for a change before losing the temper and you would have noticed the trailing smiley in my post.

Invisible Sense said:
I've been using the Atom since early Jan and TomTom 5.21 is the program thats not working, it's also a program that I really badly need.
But I am having big problems trying to get it to work
I've got a crack version and it installs fine but when it comes to selecting a voice.. it always freezes and goes no further.
I've been trying for days and nights but i'm getting nowhere
Can someone please help or advise me!!
Many thanks.
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Writing a little step by step guide for a working TTN 5.21 installation, I'll post it in about 3 or 4 hours, I'm at work now... I'll try and answer all PM's as well by then.

TTN 5.21 on wizard (originally SD install of 5.0):
- Insert Memorycard into PPC and ,in case of WM5, cancel installation.
- Connect PPC to PC and run the 5.21 update (available on tomtom.com)
- When installed, activate (or "activate" :wink: )
Use GPS instruction above and navigate away. Easy, isn't it?
If it's not working, post it, I'll see if I can help.[/b]

i installed tomtom 5.21 on sd card, then start the 4 (i think) cab files from folder 2577, place then on device. you will have to do a reset with one of the files, it tells u when. then goto programs and run tomtom. thats it. been working all day no probs, just need a phone that works now.?
dont forget the blue tooth peairing, like u have been told above.

there are many guides on TTN5 on WM5 on this forum, i have read & added to some of them.
* 5.21 IS Version 5, so your version 5 key should work fine
* Bluetooth should be paired, open a port, then add in TTN as "other BT GPS on port XX"
* If TTN hangs when you start do a google for tomtom5 currentmap.dat (or search this forum)
* you DO NOT need to install 5.0 then upgrade
* you CAN just install the 4 CAB files direct to your PDA without using a PC

FOR THE PPL THAT NEED THAT"""FILE"""" TO MAKE IT WORK
email me [email protected] and il email it to you

I thought i should post in this thread being as tho I had loads of problems getting thins to work on my wizard but now it's done it works a treat. Here's how i did it:
1. Installed the 4 .cab files from the "2577" folder into the root of my mini s
2. coped the GB map onto my mini sd card
3. updated to 5.21 (i've read that you dont have to install version 5 first but i did and it work for me). To update i installed the 2 .cabs files
4. soft reset
5. create a "tomtom" folder and put it in "my documents"
6. in the "tomtom" folder put your voice files that you want to use also make sure that the "currant map" file is in there
7. pair your gps receiver with your mini s. Create outgoing port 6 then tick the serial port box.
8. start tomtom and setup etc choose "other gps unit" and select port 6
thats it it worked for me. tomtom will switch on your bluetooth automatically. it took me a while but it's simple once your've done it. I'ce hard reset me mini s a couple of times now and reinstalled tomtom and it's worked no problems.
cheers

I am having major problems with TT5 and my mini s. I have tried everything suggested and can get TT5 working but not 5.1 or 5.2 (just freezes when selecting a voice). However TT doesn't see my bluetooth gps. COM6 just doesn't appear in the list of COM ports available in the TT gps setup.
Any ideas?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

I had the same problem but then did the following:
1. On your desktop, launch Notepad.
2. Type & \Storage Card\XXXXXX_map\ (don't forget to add the final back slash and have a space between the "&" and the first backslash. (XXXX = the name of your map directory on ur SD card)
3. Save the file as CurrentMap.dat. Make sure it doesn't end up as CurrentMap.dat.txt!
4. Create a folder on your KJam \My Documents\TomTom
5. Copy your newly created CurrentMap.dat file from your desktop into \My Documents\TomTom on your wizard
Soft reset - hopefully it now works!

thanks for all,
finally, i had got it working.
BUT what folder i can Delete after all working?
thanks

Hi all. I’m having a real problem with my xda mini s and Bluetooth. After reading through the advice her got it working with Tomtom turning on Bluetooth and connecting to the receiver. After the mini s was turned off overnight Tomtom wouldn’t turn on Bluetooth, and turning it on manually was no good, as Tomtom wouldn’t connect to the receiver (see earlier post).
After much messing around did a hard reset and reinstall and all was fine, until the next day, when after the mini s was turned off overnight Tomtom wouldn’t turn on Bluetooth, and turning it on manually was no good Etc Etc!!
Does anyone know what is going on as I don’t want to have to do a reinstall ever morning!! Should I have kept my XDA2?
Hope you can help, as I don’t have much hair left as it is.

GPS Bluetooth with TomTom

Hi All,
With some tricks I managed to install TomTom 5 navigator but I'm having trouble connecting it to the GPS bluetooth mouse from Rikaline 6033.
I paired the device and assigned serial port com6 to it but I cannot see port com6 within TomTom.
TomTom bluetooth support is installed.
Any suggestions?

Tried this freeware?
http://www.bluetooth.jazztel.es/
Good luck!
"Pocket Bluetooth Tools adds the missing Bluetooth functions to the O2 XDA II (or other compatible PDAs like the MDA II).
The current version includes:
Support for Bluetooth Headsets and Car kits (Headset and Handsfree Profil). You may use up to 9 devices at the same time and you do not need to bond the again.
Support for the SSP profile (serial port), e.g. for GPS receivers or modems
Support for ActiveSync (synchronization with Outlook and Internet connection)
Switch Bluetooth on and off automatically
The current version 1.60 of the ROM includes already a virtual serial port but unfortunately it is a dynamic port, which is not visible to many applications. Also the ActiveSync support is difficult and complicated to use and if you want to synchronize with different computers you have always to couple the device again.
For future releases I plan the following improvements:
Support for Bluetooth network access points
Send contacts and files through Bluetooth"

Thanks for your suggestion but two things make me hasitating...
I have a qtek S200 and the software is clearly designed for XDAII and similars.
I do have sertial port profile (assigned port 6 to the GPS mouse)
The only thing is that I do not see the serial port com6 in the TomTom application.

riiiiighhhtt,
ive had this problem with tomtom 5.0 and my bluetooth GPS device, but dont be dismayed, there is a solution! I hope that this can be applied to you and your bluetooth mouse, ...
ok, as far as i can tell there is a problem with tomtom 5.0 and the avaliable com ports. In your bluetooth com manager you can choose any avalible port, but tomtom 5.0 will only give you a few of those to choose from. Ok, to make this work, you just need a hexeditor on you pc, there are even some for the pocketpc so you can do it all on your device.
so, what you need to do is, go into tomtom, select a port for your bluetooth device (even if its not the same one you chose in the bluetooth manager) then quit out of tomtom and then sync your device, and explore it in windows
ok in:
/my device/program files/navigator
there is a file called:
naviagtor.cfg
what you need to do
is open that file up in a hexeditor, and once open it should look something like:
...................a.*....."................[email protected]domain.com$x8ysvy.n: COM7:...............
Where COM7 is the selected bluetooth port you chose in tomtom
All you need to do is change it to:
...................a.*....."................[email protected]domain.com$x8ysvy.n: COM0:...............
Where COM0 is the com port you chose in the bluetooth manager, for your specific bluetooth device
save, and now copy the navigator.cfg file back to you device, from whence it came, and then restart tomtom
it might take a little longer than you might expect, but it should now pick up your device, ... however, if you want it to continue to work, DO NOT GO IN TO THE TOMTOM BLUETOOTH PORT A SELECTOR AND CHANGE ANYTHING, as this will reset the navigator.cfg file and then you have to go through the whole process again!!
If you have a few devices you want to connect to tomtom, i would suggest setting them all up on 'dummy' tomtom ports, then setting up the REAL ports in the bluetooth manager, then changing the navigator.cfg file in a hexeditor. Once you have a decent .cfg file, save it to your memory card, JUST IN CASE, you mess up your tomtom bluetooth and need to work while you're out and about
hope that helps
lucasbuck

what version of tomtom are you using, i had the same problem on my wizard with version 5. when i updated to 5,21 from the tomtom site it added the extra com ports in tom tom and everything worked fine.
Ady B)

This is what I did today on my XDA Mini S. It's collected from this and other forums.
First I had to install the GPS icon on the PDA in settings/connections using a freeware registry editor.
STEP 1: ACTIVATE THE GPS CONTROL PANEL
1. Start up a registry editor
2. Go to: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ControlPanel\GPS Settings 3. Delet the Dword in there and the value and replace them with:
A new DWORD called "Group" and give it the value of "2" (dec) 4. And create a new string called "(default)" with no value (I think there was originally a string called redirect, rename this "(default)" if it's there 5. The GPS panel will now show up in your connection settings. (check it does)
note: you may have to soft reset after each stage if it appears not to work straight away but i managed to make these changes then saved them soft reset and then went to control panel in settings and a GPS option was there. You'll need this for the next stage. Wait about 1 minute before doing the soft reset.
STEP 2: Set up the GPS & Tomtom
1. Establish a bond with your GPS and select the checkbox for serial access.
2. In the GPS control panel, select the GPS program to 6 and make sure that the hardware one, is set to None.
4. Start TT5 and the GPS settings, select another bluetooth GPS, and you will see COM 6 free. Select COM 6 and close TT5.
5. At the GPS control panel again, now select COM (none) 6. At BT: select OUTGOING port to 6.
7. Finally start TT5 and it should connect automatically. Wait for a couple of seconds and click the GPS settings and you should see it has connected.
If you follow the above exactly it should hopefully work.
Dave

davidkw said:
This is what I did today on my XDA Mini S. It's collected from this and other forums.
First I had to install the GPS icon on the PDA in settings/connections using a freeware registry editor.
STEP 1: ACTIVATE THE GPS CONTROL PANEL
1. Start up a registry editor
2. Go to: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ControlPanel\GPS Settings 3. Delet the Dword in there and the value and replace them with:
A new DWORD called "Group" and give it the value of "2" (dec) 4. And create a new string called "(default)" with no value (I think there was originally a string called redirect, rename this "(default)" if it's there 5. The GPS panel will now show up in your connection settings. (check it does)
note: you may have to soft reset after each stage if it appears not to work straight away but i managed to make these changes then saved them soft reset and then went to control panel in settings and a GPS option was there. You'll need this for the next stage. Wait about 1 minute before doing the soft reset.
STEP 2: Set up the GPS & Tomtom
1. Establish a bond with your GPS and select the checkbox for serial access.
2. In the GPS control panel, select the GPS program to 6 and make sure that the hardware one, is set to None.
4. Start TT5 and the GPS settings, select another bluetooth GPS, and you will see COM 6 free. Select COM 6 and close TT5.
5. At the GPS control panel again, now select COM (none) 6. At BT: select OUTGOING port to 6.
7. Finally start TT5 and it should connect automatically. Wait for a couple of seconds and click the GPS settings and you should see it has connected.
If you follow the above exactly it should hopefully work.
Dave
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Ok Dave, I did exactly what you did, and thanx a lot, it's working quite well !
But something annoying is happening: I have to do the BT part EVERY TIME I launch TT5 (It actually asks for it, password, COM port etc...) !!
As if my pairing wasn't saved...
Any advice ?
Thx
JD

How does the Prophet perform with TomTom and MediaPlayer running at the same time?
Sluggish?

On the Prophet, you learn one thing very quickly:
Never launch 2 programs at the same time ! :lol:

tomtom
hi which hexeditor did you use and where did you download it from. unable to get one with the script line like you typed. help much appreciated.
cheers

hi there,
sorry to trouble you again. would it be possible for you to give a more descriptive explanation regarding the editing with the hexeditor.
cheers

This is how I did it:
1) Pair the two devices, non secure connection
2) Settings/Connections/Bluetooth/COM Ports - Select a new outgoing port
3) Select your GPS and assign COM Port
4) Start TomTom Settings - select "Another GPS"
5) Select the same COM Port as above
Wonderful combination, selling my Explorist 500

hi there,
i am having the same problem as niobium. anyone solved this problem! please let me know. help much appereciated.
cheers
niobium said:
Hi All,
With some tricks I managed to install TomTom 5 navigator but I'm having trouble connecting it to the GPS bluetooth mouse from Rikaline 6033.
I paired the device and assigned serial port com6 to it but I cannot see port com6 within TomTom.
TomTom bluetooth support is installed.
Any suggestions?
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TOM TOM 5.21 GPS PAIRING
But something annoying is happening: I have to do the BT part EVERY TIME I launch TT5 (It actually asks for it, password, COM port etc...) !!
As if my pairing wasn't saved...
Any advice ?
JUST TRY WITHOUT THE SECURE CHECKBOX MARKED !!!!!!
Thx
JD[/quote]

Re: TOM TOM 5.21 GPS PAIRING
educa said:
JUST TRY WITHOUT THE SECURE CHECKBOX MARKED !!!!!!
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Yes that was it
Thx
JD

Thank you!!!!
(secure checkmark) worked like a charm!!!
I was ready to toss my device out the window.
Now hopfully when I get in the car, my Handsfree and GPS won't kill each other!
Thanks again

Alternative Bluetooth GPS Receiver Setup for Tom Tom Navigator 6
davidkw said:
This is what I did today on my XDA Mini S. It's collected from this and other forums.
First I had to install the GPS icon on the PDA in settings/connections using a freeware registry editor.
STEP 1: ACTIVATE THE GPS CONTROL PANEL
1. Start up a registry editor
2. Go to: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ControlPanel\GPS Settings
3. Delet the Dword in there and the value and replace them with:
A new DWORD called "Group" and give it the value of "2" (dec)
4. And create a new string called "(default)" with no value (I think there was originally a string called redirect, rename this "(default)" if it's there
5. The GPS panel will now show up in your connection settings. (check it does)
note: you may have to soft reset after each stage if it appears not to work straight away but i managed to make these changes then saved them soft reset and then went to control panel in settings and a GPS option was there. You'll need this for the next stage. Wait about 1 minute before doing the soft reset.
Dave
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I came unstuck at this point and had to fiddle around until I finally managed to get my BT GPS device to talk to my phone and TTN6. The following steps worked for me.
1. Pair your BT GPS with your handset BEFORE installing TTN6 (or 5 for that matter).
2. On the handset go to Settings > Connections > GPS, set the GPS Program port to COM8 and the GPS Hardware port to whatever COM your GPS device uses (mine uses COM5). The Baud rate should be set according to your GPS device's manual (mine is 4800).
3. Install TTN6 on your device and follow the setup. When asked, select whichever BT GPS receiver you're going to use and use COM8 as your communication port (if it hasn't appeared, go back to step 2 and try using COM9 instead of COM8).
4. Exit TTN6.
5. Go to Settings > Connections > GPS again, but this time set the GPS Hardware port to "(None)" and the GPS Program port whatever COM your GPS device uses (again, mine uses COM5).
6. Restart TTN6. The program should now pick up your BT GPS device.
If you're still having problems, I'm afraid I can't help much further. This worked for me, but I have a UK Orange SPV M600. It may not work for everyone.
Happy hunting,
Josh

niobium said:
Thanks for your suggestion but two things make me hasitating...
I have a qtek S200 and the software is clearly designed for XDAII and similars.
I do have sertial port profile (assigned port 6 to the GPS mouse)
The only thing is that I do not see the serial port com6 in the TomTom application.
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Maybe I'm late or wrong, but you CAN NOT have the same serial port asigned to two devices!, depending on your version of TOM TOM you may be out of the serial port supported range....
BT serial ports are the same as the "old" PC ones.... one cable at a time....
Hope it helps.

Help before I kill my phone............
My head is going to explode at this rate.
Can anyone help me, at basic level, how to:
1. Get a reg editor, by name not just 'get a reg editor' as I have tried 2 now to no avail.
2. Is the GPS settings already in the registry to edit on my 02 mini S or do I need to get that from somewhere before I start?
Currently I can get the bluetooth to pair, can create another OUTGOING port and thats it. It wont actually give me any device even though phone is paired to it
Why cant it just be SIMPLE!!!!
BTW, Im running TTN6 and an 02 Mini S.
Cheers for now, Taff

I got tomtom (but version 6) working flawlessly with my S200. I assigned COM6 as the outgoing port for the GPS, then assigned COM7 as an incoming port. I enabled a secure connection. Then i disabled bluetooth and started tomtom (tomtom enables and disables BT automatically).
I added the GPS device as "other GPS device", waited a few seconds and there it was working.
Maybe the problem is your tomtom version being too old?
My GPS receiver is a BT-338.

Cannot pair XDA Mini S and BT77 GPS via bluetooth

I've been just about everywhere trying to get an answer to this, but no joy so far. I have just bought an O2 XDA Mini S PDA (ROM 2.21.4.1 WWE) running Windows Mobile 5 and a BT77 GPS receiver from Ebay. The problem is I can't get them to pair via bluetooth - this is what happens:
1. the XDA detects "BT GPS" (with a question mark icon)
2. the setup process invites me to select this device
3. I am asked for the "0000" access code
4. I then select "Serial Port" service (the only option)
5. Moving on to COM Ports tab - I create a new Outgoing Port and allocate it to COM 6 or 7 (I've tried both)
I've tried, methodically, every permutation available via the setup facility(secure/insecure pairing via check box, deletion and reset of XDA and GPS in between each try, COM 6/COM 7, etc.), but the GPS device does not pair (i.e. GPS BT indicator continues to flash every 3 seconds or so).
I know that the BT77 is OK because I've had it working nicely in Autoroute 2005 with a BT dongle in my laptop. Incidentally, I have TomTom Navigator 5.21 installed on the XDA.
I've scoured the online forums for an answer to what seems to be not an uncommon problem, but I can't find one. Is there perhaps a utility to fix this or a registry setting which can be changed maybe - I'm completely stumped!!! Can anyone help.............please?
Dave

i am having the same problem... tried installing BTH but that program does not even bother to show up
:?:

I guess the com 6/7 is unavailable. In my o2 mini with windows mobile 2003, i use com8 to pair, and working perfect. Try some software, such as gps viewer, to indicate the available com.

okay.. thanks.. will try now

sorted!!
I've found out how to fix this, but I had to buy GPSDash to do it (you may not if you can get a free version):
To get XDA to pair with BT77 via bluetooth -
1. use XDA bluetooth settings to set "BT GPS" to use COM7 - the BT77 will not pair by doing this;
2. install GPSDash2 (I did it by copying CAB file to memory card touching it with stylus in File Explorer or Total Commander 2 or and change settings of GPSDash to use COM7 (this is a handy app, but it's really
there to enable TomTom to find BT77 - not sure HOW it works, but who cares!!);
3. Run TomTom and configure GPS settings to use "Other GPS" and COM0;
4. find navigator.cfg (installed in \Program Files\Navigator) and copy it to PC;
5. using Ultraedit (hex editor),change 0 in "COM0" to 7 and then overwrite navigator.cfg on phone with
new version;
6. Run TomTom - it should pair with the BT77
Like I said, I bought a copy of GPSDash for a few quid - it's a nice little app to have for SatNav anyway, but you might be able to get a trial version or something - you don't have to run it or have it sat in memory for the GPS to pair, but it being there makes all the difference!!
Hope this sorts it for you
D

i, as an electronics engineer, have experienced that if anything can go wrong it will go wrong. thats exactly what happened with my installation of ttn5 n pairing of bt77.
now i can proudly say that i have done it and its working fine except for the POIs which i deleted myself. anyway, while pairing the bt77, i just chose factory reset for ttn5 and it detected the device automatically. but i think the Bluetooth tools are really handy by thus german dude. i havent tried but i think he will answer questions in english, supposedly.
i think i will pass on my knowledge to others so .... ask! 8)
n yea.. thanks to tomtom, i hope i never get lost again :lol:

still cant get it
i have followed instructions above but still no luck
i have gpsdash2 working great but tom tom wil still not pick up my bluetooth gps....
PLEASE HELP!!!

Internal GPS problem HTC P6500

Hi all,
I recently purchased a P6500 and I installed Igo 8.When I enter the gps config menu it says that gps could not be found;if i hit the auto search button the device freezes.
I installed Port splitter 1.11 and I managed to gain something...the device doesn't freeze anymore but it still can not find the gps.I have no idea how to set up the com ports....the program port..the hardware port..I am confused...
(I also inst. Igo 2006 and works ok.)
I appreciate any help!!

Xman556 said:
Hi all,
I recently purchased a P6500 and I installed Igo 8.When I enter the gps config menu it says that gps could not be found;if i hit the auto search button the device freezes.
I installed Port splitter 1.11 and I managed to gain something...the device doesn't freeze anymore but it still can not find the gps.I have no idea how to set up the com ports....the program port..the hardware port..I am confused...
(I also inst. Igo 2006 and works ok.)
I appreciate any help!!
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Hi, Xman -- I don't know this software and so probably can't really offer anything helpful. For what it's worth, the GPS seems to work fine on my P6500: both with Google Maps and with GPS-enabled photos on the HTC Camera app. Does your GPS work with those programs?
Sorry about your troubles!
Alan

I didn't try with Google maps because I'm interested in making Igo work .
At list tell me an app which can show me some info about the internal gps such as speed /the com port on which it's installed etc..
Thanks

Problem solved!!!!!!!
Solution? GPS Gate

I have also noticed the same problem running both IGO-2006 and I-GO 2008 on my 6500,on the other hand i have had no trouble whatsoever running Destinator 7 and Garmin ,i guess it's got something to do with the software and not the PPC itself which i must say has a very good GPS receiver.
Edit
Thanks for the GPS-gate idea.

Xman556 said:
Problem solved!!!!!!!
Solution? GPS Gate
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Hey Xman556,
I've having the same problem with my HTC 6500.
Could you please be kind to tell me how to set up the gps gate so it well work ok with the iGo8.
Thank you
Gigino

Well I think I rejoiced too early.Today I took a longer trip and wanted to check how my new solution works......after catching speed the gps started disconnecting an reconnecting until I had to turn it off for good.So almost back to square one.....anybody who can help?

gigino said:
Hey Xman556,
I've having the same problem with my HTC 6500.
Could you please be kind to tell me how to set up the gps gate so it well work ok with the iGo8.
Thank you
Gigino
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At input I selected WM GPS and after you hit open.
At output I have Gpsgate direct/virtual com2(all NMEA)/COM2/COM4
But as I said in my previous post...is not quite working.
Also you might check the franson's web site ..thy seem to have a nice support forum...if you find anything please share.

gigino said:
Hey Xman556,
I've having the same problem with my HTC 6500.
Could you please be kind to tell me how to set up the gps gate so it well work ok with the iGo8.
Thank you
Gigino
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You mean that you have also problems with the Igo8?If yes do you have the original Igo or the cracked one?

Xman556 said:
You mean that you have also problems with the Igo8?If yes do you have the original Igo or the cracked one?
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Hey Xman556,
it is a crack one at the moment untill I can get it to work properly then I'll buy it if not I'll just leave it.
The way I can get it to work is like this I start the iGo8 then I go to settings TMC and dp a search if return as no hardware fined then I go to GPS and put in the com port 4 and the speed 57800 and it work but if I do a soft rest the iGo8 well not work anymore until I change the GPS port in the PDA to a diffrent port like port 8 then the Igo8 well star and I have to do everything I did before go to TMC and so on if I try to go straight to the GPS without going to the TMC the system hang and I have to do a soft rest this is the way I got it working I'm using the version 4.1.506 if the Igo I tried the earlier version and it is the same problem I need a solution better than this.
Thank You
Gigino

As far as I see the problem is that the cracked Igo is not able to start the internal gps.
Here my new solution..this time is really working !!!
GPS TEST from chartcross...i start this program .it starts the gps then menu/minimize and after i start the igo.
Tell me if it works for u.

Xman556 said:
As far as I see the problem is that the cracked Igo is not able to start the internal gps.
Here my new solution..this time is really working !!!
GPS TEST from chartcross...i start this program .it starts the gps then menu/minimize and after i start the igo.
Tell me if it works for u.
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Hey Xman556,
thank you for you suggestion it does work now it is much more easier after a soft rest.
Thank You
Gigino

I had this problem with I-go at first. When first installed selecting the gps port and or baud rate would lock the phone. Also if you did an auto detect it would also lock the phone. Solution, have gpsdash or google navigator running with the gps enabled (or anything else that works with the internal gps it seems). Without stopping the app start I-go and it will find and use the gps quite nicely.
Once it has done this the first time I never had to run anything else before I-go even after a reset. Tried this several times by fully reseting the 6500 and worked every time.

similar GPS problems with HTC P6500 and iGo
Hi all,
I'm writing from Germany and have similar problems with iGo 2006+ and iGo 8.
(I purchased iGo 8 just yesterday)
My (German) settings:
Settings --> System --> External GPS -->
Tab Program?:
COM4 for internal GPS, no external GPS via Bluetooth (see Attachment)
Tab Access?:
manage GPS automaticly: ON
What are your GPS settings?
- - -
What I have discovered:
- 1st starting iGo 2006+ and iGo8: both applications hang during 'starting'
- With Igo 2006+ I tried: 1st starting the app 'GPS Tuner', then starting iGo
--> It starts and iGo finds GPS on Com4 with maximum baud
(now I don' t have any longer 'GPS Tuner')
- With iGo8 I tried starting the freeware 'VisualGPSce' 1st (until GPS fix), then starting iGo8 --> It starts, I could set COM4, maximum baud...
--> so I think, is is an internal iGo/GPS-problem
- Today I could drive about 10 km with Igo8, then it crashes without any msg
You can see, I have similar probs, did u solve the probs meanwhile?
---
Rainer from Germany

cracked igo works fine on Sedna. from SD or InternalFlash.
I´m using GPSGATE.
Start GPSGATE, best automatically after reboot.
this will start the internal GPS.
Now you have 2 possibilities.
1. use the output port of GPSGATE, maybe Virtual Com1. You can select it in the options from GPSGATE
or
2. use Com4 from internal GPS. once startet from GPSGATE, it works.
you have to edit your sys.txt in folder programs....igo8
[gps]
port="1" or "4"
baud="38400"
it works definitly
Guenni

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After trying all kinds of programs(GPS port spliter,gps gate and gps test) I found that the solution with gpstest is the best.So I decided to perform a hard reset in order to install on my device only the useful software. But after the hard reset the gps would not start no matter what programs I installed. So I sent the device to HTC and they replaced the mainboard.
Now the IGO8 works perfect(together with GPSTEST-pls see my earlier posts).

GPS Text script
I too found GPSTest.exe useful because its really small.
Strange that iGo hangs when trying to communicate over the port *unless* you start another program and open up the GPS unit's port.
Sounds a lot like PPC/iGo GPS management issue.
Be that as it may, I created a script with MortScript, and then put this shortcut under my programs in "\Windows\Start Menu\Programs" on my PPC (I'm running WM 6.1 if you care).
The following script opens GPSTest.exe, launches iGo, then closes GPSText.exe after iGo shuts down;
iGoLaunch.mscr:
Code:
#OPEN GpsText.exe minimized
Run ("\Storage Card\Program Files\Chartcross\GPSTest\Bin\GPSTest.exe")
WaitForActive ("GPS Test", 5000)
Minimize ("GPS Test")
#Run (and wait until iGo closes)
RunWait ("\Program Files\iGO8\iGO8.exe")
#Close GpsText.exe
Kill ("\Storage Card\Program Files\Chartcross\GPSTest\Bin\GPSTest.exe")
After creating iGoLaunch.mscr, put this link (use notepad) into "\Windows\Start Menu\Programs"
iGo 8 GPS.lnk:
Code:
1#"\Storage Card\iGo8\iGoLaunch.mscr"?\Program Files\iGO8\iGO8.exe, -101
Please note: If you decide to use this script and shortcut, I highly suggest you check the paths/filenames for accuracy.

GPS and WM 6.1 upgrade
Hey guys -- this may well not be relevant to the issues you're dealing with -- I don't use iGo -- but there is a HUGE improvement in GPS reception with the Windows Mobile 6.1 upgrade. My Sedna used to have a very difficult time getting GPS reception: it often could not find a signal despite repeated attempts. But since the upgrade, it's been locking on quickly and consistently.
Thought I'd pass this on in case it's helpful.
Alan

very simple script
once the GPS is initialized for the first time it will work
I've wrote a script for MortScript. The only code is:
WriteFile( "COM4:",x )
This script only sends something (here x) to COM4.
Then COM4 is used for the first time and will keep on working.
I start this script in autostart.
That's all.
Please regard uppercase and colons when writing "COM4:"
Bye
Guenni

Solution for port splitter
You can use port splitter for your gps. here is the process i went through with my HTC (jade). first i used gps gate and figured out that the internal gps is using com4. since gpsgate is not free and had to stop using it I tried port splitter
simply install port splitter on your pda
under INPUT-> PORT: com4 and Baud: 4800 (you might have to type COM4 yourself)
under OUTPUT-> select com1 on the drop down menu and press ADD
then press Start Splitter
and it should work
if not install gpsgate and figure out what port it is using and than use port splitter.
This should save you some money
Greetings
Macula