I would like to set up my Exec to use a external hard drive to access files. Is it possible to connect and use a external hard drive on my PPC?
You can your ppc into a USD memory stick, however there are considerations :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=45411
Only managed to do it via wifi. Just for streaming video and music.
You can't connect external drive to universal, because it does not have USB host functionality.
The only way is to connect over WIFi, there is an ASUS WiFi external drive that works like this.
Of course you can use WiFi, UMTS or even BT to connect to your home machine and access stuff or you can use services like Avvenu or ORB for this...
Where could I get a Bluetooth external drive at?
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Where could I get a Bluetooth external drive at?
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To my knowledge you can't.As far as I know there is no BT drives on the market. The only solution is WiFi or internet service.
OK. Thank you. Myabe I can get a WIFI Drive.
We already have 4gb sd cards for little money, 8 gb for a bit more, and 32 gb on the way to market. That's why there are no hard disks for Universal.
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We already have 4gb sd cards for little money, 8 gb for a bit more, and 32 gb on the way to market. That's why there are no hard disks for Universal.
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I don't think Universal has support for High Capacity SD cards.
"Normal" SD standard only supports sizes up to 2Gb. There are some 4Gb cards that work in some machines (but it's not 100%).
The newer cards are SDHC specification, that is a revision of original SD standard, and your machine has to support SDHC in order to use such cards, unfortunatelly I don't think Universal does support this...
Several members of this forum are using 4gb sd cards with Universal
4gb cards work fine with the universal as it can read FAT32.
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4gb cards work fine with the universal as it can read FAT32.
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This has nothing to do with ability to read FAT32 - as far as I know pretty much any WM device reads FAT32. It has to do with the fact that SD specification goes onlt to 2Gb. There are some 4Gb cards that go around the 2Gb limitation, and you can use these cards in SD capable devices - but it's not guaranteed that such card will work.
The new SDHC cards, are bult with new specification, and you have to have a device capable of reading such cards.
I don't know if Universal, or any other current WM device supports this or if a software patch can help.
Basically what you have to be aware is that if you buy HC card, you sould better test it first in your device, to make sure it will work!
AFAIK Secure Digital High Capacity SDHC is just fat 32 which the UNI has no problem with, the devices that will really struggle are the likes of cameras
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AFAIK Secure Digital High Capacity SDHC is just fat 32 which the UNI has no problem with, the devices that will really struggle are the likes of cameras
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Like I said, I'm not sure if SDHC will work in Universal or any other current WM machine - I would definatelly be carefull.
On the other hand I'm also not sure why FAT32 would be the difference between SD and SDHC, as I had most of my cards formatted with FAT32 since at least my iPAQ in 2003...
Anyhow here is a link with announcement about SDHC, that clearly states 2Gb limit of "normal" SD cards, but no details on technical differences of both specifications.
http://www.sdcard.org/events/SDHC_Release06.pdf
my 4gb works flawless...
but thats also thanks to newer rom (since older roms had the camera problem)
im sure when the 1st 8gb SD cards become available someone will try if it works and we will also know...
if it wont work well in 1st attempt, maybe a rom-update could fix it 8)
This has now gone off topic!!
I spend alot of my time in forums just searching in order not to make usless or double posts in regards to what I require!!
There are threads open already in regards to the high capacity SD cards sao why are they not being used?
In regards to the external hd on universal believe this to be case closed unless someone has something to input about it....actually about it!
This forum is great but unfortunatelly already bad for indexing for search purposes....lets not make it worst.
WBR
My 4gb works fine. Only problem is that I still have the original rom and needed less than 2gb free space for it to work, but then that was why I got a bigger card...
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Not that I think the above is really that surprising, but I bought a 8gig SDHC card for my camera (which IS SDHC compliant) and tried the card in the Prophet and it did not work/read/attempt to format etc... it did NOTHING with it...
So for those wondering/searching NO -- it doesn't work :-(
sdhc in registry
surprisingly though there is a key in the registry under drivers named sdhc. Maybe it means something else.
Oh good. One less thing to spend my money on
The "sdhc" in Windows Mobile stands for "SDIO Host Controller". So, nope, it's not SDHC we want.
SDHC is in the registry
HKLM->Drivers->BuiltIn->SDHC
I would believe that if the SDHC.dll is updated to SD 2.0, our device would be working with the 8GB SDHC card.
Has M$ updated that driver yet?
[Treo 680 works with 8GB SDHC. When that driver (Palm OS) is copied to Treo 700p, that makes the device work with 8GB too.]
There might be two hurdles sdhc.dll (MS) and omap850_sdhc.dll (HTC/TI). So even if MS updates WM to support SDHC cards, I think the hardware driver must be updated too.
8 gb-> four 2 gb?
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Not that I think the above is really that surprising, but I bought a 8gig SDHC card for my camera (which IS SDHC compliant) and tried the card in the Prophet and it did not work/read/attempt to format etc... it did NOTHING with it...
So for those wondering/searching NO -- it doesn't work :-(
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How about formating the card in the PC and splitting into four 2 gb partitions? Try that, may be that would work. You can also try few different media cards software to create the right partitions. just google it for the software.
Hope it works for you.
Best Regards,
Partitioning would probably not remedy SDHC issue
It's possible to partition a SDHC card into 2GBx4 or 4GBx2 but it would not change anything because the CSD (card specific data) is different on SDHC cards and the device should be able to interpret it before recognizing the partitions.
The prohet is incompatible with SDHC it can not read its CSD. The CSD is outside user accessible area and this is the device driver that reads it to understand what is the capacity, manufacturer ID and serial number of the card.
I suggest to never buy SDHC cards for prophet and use standard 4GB Transcend or Ridata cards.
Do not buy any 4GB SD card of brands not registered to sdcard.org and avoid fake Sandisk's as well.
makes sence.. my idea wasn't thought trough..
one question, is posible install anything drive o parth ?..
I have 1 sd 4gb Transcend 150x and i have more and more problem..
Please help me
Actualy i have 2 part 2 gb..
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one question, is posible install anything drive o parth ?..
I have 1 sd 4gb Transcend 150x and i have more and more problem..
Please help me
Actualy i have 2 part 2 gb..
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Why 2 partitions? I have the Transcend 4gb SD. I formatted it on my PC using XP to one large 4gb drive and it works flawlessly. You might want to copy the data off of it and reformat it.
because , when open aplication from sd, some time the pda is block and i have get out the SD CARD , and get in too , for unblock.
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When I open the applications in the SD, the pda shields herself and I have to extract the SD and return to introduce her to unblock.
I have searched on here and read the various threads on SDHC cards and I am still none the wiser
In the Wizard Accessories forum there is a 5-page thread about users experiences with what does and doesn't work - the problem is there is contradicting information. I thought I was getting somewhere with later units supporting SDHC and earlier ones not (serial numbers), however half way through the thread someone with an older Wizard says they have it working.....
Are there any difinitive answers to whether 4GB SDHC cards work in the Wizard, and if so does it need to be a G4, does it need to be manufactured after a certain date etc?
I have two Wizards (s/n: SZ602EE0xxxx and HT544EExxxx), both currently with 1GB SD cards (Danelec I think?). I am reluctant to buy any 4GB cards unless I know they are going to work.
Thanks
Andy
AFAIK some WM6 ROM with build .1921 includes drivers that should support SDHC cards but since I don't have a SDHC card on hand cannot test ...
or have a look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=320159
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http://www.mm.pl/~xoen/sdhc.rar
driver, that enabled sdhc for some devices(it wasn't obvious that it will work - but it works.), cannot test it with wiz , though.
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I have already downloaded this but don't have a SDHC card to test it, and as I said I am reluctant to buy one if it won't work.......
Andy
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ok to clarify this, (im going to get flame at least once for this) SDHC cards will only work with devices that have the drivers for SDHC cards. This does not have to do with the hardware but if we cant get the drivers to talk to the hardware there is no support. we have the right hardware but no drivers and if it was a hardware problem then SDHC cards would not be the same as a SD card.
And can someone test that rom (not hopping it works but it might)
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I've got a 4gb SDHC card sitting here, and the latest TNT release (1921 base). Obviously, it does not currently work. Let me know what I need to do to try!
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I've got a 4gb SDHC card sitting here, and the latest TNT release (1921 base). Obviously, it does not currently work. Let me know what I need to do to try!
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The first page of theloon 7.2 ROM kitchen shows it working. I run this ROM, but I dont have a SDHC yet. I'll post there to see if anyone has had success.
Resurect this thread....
I am desperately running out of SD card space and would like to now 'upgrade' to a 4GB (or bigger?) SDHC card. I would like some testemonials of users who have had sucess with SDHC cards and what Wizard version and ROM you are running.
As I said I am reluctant to just buy a SDHC card and see if it works as it will be a waste of money if it doesn't.
Andy
count me in
just bought a 2gb sd card for 25€ over here but i need more space ^^
transcend sells the fastest sd mini cards as far as i tested them..
from hardware point of view the wizard device can handle this SDHC cards
as they use the same slot and hardware a usb cardreader has..
its just a matter of drivers or maybe just a registrysetting..
my guess its a combination of a new driver with enhancements for SDHC
and some registrysettings...
knowing windows they probably allready implented it in OS at least in WM6
and it be just a question of finding the right driver with the right settings..
my 4gig sdhc is coming in early next week, then I can test..
keep us informed on how it works please .. if it works that is ^^
Read this! It is only a matter of drivers and reg settings. Someone has created a cab with appropriate drivers and reg entries for testing somewhere on the xda forum.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...c1-f0f4-4fd6-9366-b61e0ab59565&DisplayLang=en
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Read this! It is only a matter of drivers and reg settings. Someone has created a cab with appropriate drivers and reg entries for testing somewhere on the xda forum.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...c1-f0f4-4fd6-9366-b61e0ab59565&DisplayLang=en
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So you can confirm this works? That's all I want. There are LOTS of varying reports on SDHC cards working & not working. I don't want to buy one and then realise it doesn't work. It's all right posting drivers and links to MS updates but that doesn't confirm anything. I want hard evidence.....
Andy
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I tried it and it doesn't work.
• Support for Video over IP telephony calls
• Support for the Pocket Outlook Object Model (POOM) and ActiveSync in the VoIP Home Screen and VoIP Contacts applications
• Secure Digital (SD) bus driver that supports SDHC specification 2.00 functionality, such as Secure Digital High-Capacity (SDHC) cards
Support for Extended File Allocation Table (ExFAT) and FAT32 on the x86 BIOS Loader, which provides access beyond 2 gigabytes (GB) of hard disk space.
this is probably the issue with ur 4gb card..
the bios of the wizard wont be able to acces beyond 2gb
but...
now that you have this 4gb card can you do us all a favor ?
here is the thing:
if u have a cardreader that reads the card on the pc just put it in the pc
otherwise put it in the wizard and start wm5torage and connect it as a
non-removable class and write enabled and start the thing and connect it to pc..
when connected goto computer and right click My Computer and choose manage.. in that window goto Disk Managment ..
in there you see this drive which is on the sd card, its shown as a drive
rightclick on the part next to it where it shows the volume on the drive
(it says Healty when correct and the driveletter it got assigned)
choose delete partition
now u have a empty flashdisk
format it in fat16 but.. :-> dont give it a name and set it to 2gb and do not assign a driveletter
now there is a space left of <1gb
format this too fat16 no name, no drive letter, no other stuff but plain format
now if all is correct and these two drives are there you can disconnect it.
unplug the cardreader (with the remove hardwarebutton in systray)
or if u got it in your wizard , shut down pc and take wizard out after it shut down
then release the wm5torage driver and close it and remove card and insert it
back again..
u can check for errors with pocket mechanic professional..
little warning though : do not do this with non branded fake 4gb cards as it
renders it useless probably..( these cards that are 2gb and reformated to hold 4gb)
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I tried it and it doesn't work.
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Thanks for highlighting my point - some Wizard owners say they work, others say they don't. Even though it's only about UK £20, it's still wasted money if it doesn't work.....
Andy
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Thanks for highlighting my point - some Wizard owners say they work, others say they don't. Even though it's only about UK £20, it's still wasted money if it doesn't work.....
Andy
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it will work if someone can port wm6 r2 to the wizard
and i had it work with a 4gb sd mini card which wasnt SDHC
the site i bought it doesnt have them anymore ..
it seems it is an "out of specs" sd card hence there not sold here,
but maybe we can find a store that has these cards..
one more thought is that it maybe read the SDHC card as well if we
keep its volume space to a max of 2gb..
multiple volumes on a storage card works fine on a t-mobile stock rom
not tried it on others..
nevertheless ur right about the part that no-one is willing to buy something that doesnt work hence we need to test and try...
or as i would say :
Plug 'n Pray ©
guys, just wait until Monday or Tuesday, you will get a full report
let's start a poll, which ROM should be used for testing
Greets,
I went to my local Verizon store and picked up an 8GB Sandisk MicroSD Card.
The card is recognized by the phone as having 7.7GB free, but when I plug it into my Belkin 15-in-1 reader (via an adapter) to load it up, the Belkin/Computer doesn't see it.
This may be because its SDHC but I can't find ANYTHING out there on this.
Any ideas?
Anyone have a reader they use which has worked with the 8GB SDCH MicroSD in adapter?
Thanks!
I do not own a SDHC card (yet) but I'm pretty sure that the problem is due to your belkin not supporting SDHC.
See the review at the bottom of this page: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kingston-15-1-Microdrive-MMCmobile/dp/B000CDITCQ
Yeah its that 15 and 1 thingy. I bought a 4GB Micro SD card through amazon last week and it came with this.
http://www.amazon.com/Sandisk-Micro...1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1196630057&sr=1-1
That should be able to read a 8GB sd card also.
No good ... but all is well
The 15-in-1 doesn't even flash when the card is put in (but flashes fine with my old 512MB).
No biggie - I copied the 512MB to the hard drive, and used EXPLORE in ActiveSync to fill the 8GB (which is now down to 5.3 ... tee hee).
Thanks
SDHC
By reading this thread am I right in understanding that the TyTNII CAN read SDHC? I couldn't find any reference to SDHC in the manual so I thought 2Gb was my limit!
Regards
Andrew
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By reading this thread am I right in understanding that the TyTNII CAN read SDHC? I couldn't find any reference to SDHC in the manual so I thought 2Gb was my limit!
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Andrew
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Yes...the TYTNII accepts SDHC and the Sandisk 8GB card works flawlessly in the device.
AndrewGlassby said:
By reading this thread am I right in understanding that the TyTNII CAN read SDHC? I couldn't find any reference to SDHC in the manual so I thought 2Gb was my limit!
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it will state SDHC or version 2.0 compliant.
kms
Hotfix for Windows XP that adds support for SDHC cards that have a capacity of more than 4 GB
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/934428
EDIT: It appears MSFT has hidden this hotfix from the public. (Thanks, guys.) Here's some details:
http://www.digitmemo.com/articles/219/adding-sdhc-support-for-windows-with-your-old-sd-card-reader/
EDIT2: And for Windows XP English users: http://thehotfixshare.net/board/index.php?automodule=downloads&showfile=1079
EDIT3: For whatever reason, this hotfix has no impact on my inability to read the card via my laptop's built-in card reader. I have a Fujitsu Lifebook Tablet. I have yet to look for drivers on the Fujitsu side.
The drive iteself has to be SDHC compliant, you can load WinXP driers all day and it will never read the card because the drive built into your tablet (or the 15-in-1 as mentioned above) is not SDHC compliant. Just like when they came out with SDIO for mobile devices, you had to had a SD drive in your mobile that was SDIO complaint, if not, you can't use SDIO.
Best bet is to buy the SDHC reader on amazon as mentioned above. Also, this is why all new SDHC cards (by Sandisk) are being sold with card readers.
Then why, as previous posters have stated, are non SDHC complaint drives able to be upgraded? AFAIK, the only reason why SDHC would NOT be supported is because it uses different memory calls. I assume that a new driver would be all that's needed. I don't see why it would be a hardware issue.
I've got 4 card readers, 3 bought prior to SDHC and 1 SDHC (that came with the card). The 3 readers (using WinXP) will not read my 6 gig SDHC card, it seems to be doing something, then craps out. The reader that came with the 6gig card, works like a charm everytime and all 4 are using winxp generic drivers for removable drives, nothing special about the drivers. If I put the same card into my Tilt and and access it via file explorer on the PC, I can read/write all day. Also, the same results on Vista PC.
EDIT: Vista results were slightly different, none of the 4 readers would read/write to the SDHC card. hmmm...
I just thought of something that may support the driver theory. If the card reader is embedded into a laptop or pc then maybe the manufactuer actually put hardware that was upgradeable to SDHC by means of a driver. Then of course the driver update makes sense.
Now, if it is a driver that's all that's needed, I would be a happy camper because I could use my favorite reader again and not have to carry 2 readers.
Hi,
I am by no means tech savvy with my BA. Overtime, I have managed to upgrade mine from 2003 to wm6. And each time I did it, i held my breathe....lol
Since my searching the forums, I only see support for the 4 gig non sdhc cards...I have a 4 gig non sdhc capacity card now and it works fine.....and yes, I see all the complaints about posting on the sdhc compliant cards. I am aware the driver for the sd reader, has to be custom written specifically for the BA, since the BA was not designed to upgraded to wm6 in the first place. Is the 5.2.1933 compatible with sdhc protocol itself? I am seeing that some of the newer htc phones may nor may not be sdhc compatible as well.
Well, has anyone tried a Sd-micro Sd adapter, like this one, and just skip SD and move to microSD. There is 6 gig card in the below link.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/category_slc.asp?page=2&Nav=|c:1579|&Sort=4&Recs=10
There is already a 8 gig coming, found one for 135.00 and now, I stumbled across a 12 announced like 8 days ago at engadget.
Anyone tried any of this, the microSD adapter? This is an external bypass i would think, but with these cooked roms, I never know what works and what doesn't. I can't get my phone to turn off using the com manager, (i am not complaining, I just know there are still issues with WM6 not being bug free)
Would you have a speed issue? In other words, yes, i know there is a hack, to get music to not skip, that has to do with the bit rate transfer. That is the bug fix for that issue. Would you get more problems like this adapter, due to the driver and/or incompatibilty of transfer rates?
edit: I am using 5.2.1933 build
Answer is simple: If the MicroSD card is a normal SD, it will work. If it's SDHC, it won't. MicroSD adapter is just a size converter: there is no electronics inside. SD card, miniSD and microSD are identical from protocol point of view. SD and SDHC is identical. They have just different sizes.
Thanks for the reply.
i think all the new big gig cards are gonna be sdhc or sd 2.0 compliant. I am still struggling with all these things, sd 1 sd 1.1 sd 2.0, micro, mini etc. It is so confusing.
Guess its time for a touch cruise. It has gps
Thanks.
There are 8gb standard sd cards on ebay. Anyone used any one of those? I bought one but found it was a 4gb hacked to display 8gb and had read and write errors and subsequently was useless. Are there any genuine standard non-sdhc 8 gb cards out there?
It is not technically possible to do SD non-HC card over 4GB. Normal SD ends on 1GB, with some tricks you gen achieve up to 4GB with limited compatibility. But there is no way to have non-HC cards bigger than 4GB.
Anyone have the knowledge to use multiple Micro-SD cards in the BA,
using an switch and and Micro-SD bridge?
Would be great if we could use more then one SD and up the available space.
Or maybe add two Micro-SD's to one adapter.
hmmm, intresting idea.
but i think the maximum space will be 4gb, due the fact that there is no SDHC driver for BA...
seems to be some kind of fat 16/32 problem.
could you post a link or a picture of the product you plan on using, i can't really picture it.
but if you already have something like that, you could also explain the way it works with a pc card reader.
here are some options i could imagine:
1. if you can combine 2 cards to some sort of raid system offering you one partition from 2 cards, it wouldn't work because of the maximum partition size.
2. if you actually switch between the cards and both are 4gb max, i could imagine that it works, on the other hand, when letting an adaptor for mini-sd or micro-sd in and just change the "small" inside card, it does not recognize the change. also, that wouldn't be such a great advantage in storage space, just a better way to carry a 2nd card.
3. if it combines 2 cards for permanent use of both and they are presented as 2 different partitions, it just might work, as the BA also supports several partitions on one sd card, and that way, data traffic between the 2 cards would also be possible.
also, i have to throw in: the fat16/32 in this case just influences the maximum file size, not the partition size. if the ba could just read fat16, you could simply make several 4gb partitions on a sdhc card ...if there was a sdhc driver.
There are a few card adapters for Stick Pro Duo that are for dual microSD cards. I don't think I have ever seen it for microSD to SD.
Hey Chef, here is a link for that
http://www.amazon.com/MicroSD-MicroSDHC-Adapter-Converts-Cards/dp/B001RPEJA4
It is a pretty nice idea and probably the BA will just see it as another drive (ie Storage Card1 and Storage Card2).
Those MicroSD > MS adapters look very interesting indeed.
Something like that would be great for SD as well. Havn't found anything though.
That is rather interesting..
But I think we are going to have to be creative here, and
make one our self.
Before attaching, and possibly destroying, some cards I would like some more information if possible.
Will/can the adapter detect them as two cards if we connect them together. Detect them as two partitions..
Or will it mess up completely.(Possibly) The BA can handle more memory, and will rename it's location accordingly that's for sure, but through an standard SD bridge..?
Can the internal bridge handle more then one device at a time..?
External: TV, GPS, Radio, Camera, WiFi ect. can be used with the SDIO interface, so it may be possible along those lines,
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http://www.amazon.com/MicroSD-MicroSDHC-Adapter-Converts-Cards/dp/B001RPEJA4
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this adapter MS PRO DUO
fanik said:
this adapter MS PRO DUO
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If you read my post, you would see that I said that even before the link was posted...