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Muffled sound on XDAII

Hi All,
I bought an XDAII about 2 weeks ago and am very please with it, however, when I make and receive calls, the sound seems to be very muffled. The people I call also comment that I sound very muffled too. Is there something wrong with it, or is this usual ? I was also wondering if a Radio Stack upgrade may cure this problem.
Here are my current versions etc.
ROM Version 1.03.00 USA
ROM Date 09/24/03
Radio Version 1.05.12
Protocol Version 1337.12
Any help appreciated.
Thanks,
Rob.

unfortunately it doesnt.
i know what you mean . . . but i upgraded my radio stack to 1.10 and it's still the same sound
i just hope it's just a setting of how the audio is decoded by the radio (sort of like the nokia setting you can turn on and off (at the expense of battery power) forgot what it's called.
cuz if it's not that, then it just means it's got a lousy speaker hehehe

hehe.. Thanks for the reply mate. At least I'm not the only one with a muffly speaker n mic
Ta,
Rob.

no prob :wink:
i think everybody has the same problem, only they just dont think it's a biggie (or aren't as picky as us) since the audio STILL is intelligible anyways

Has anyone else encountered a problem when either using the phone normally or through the speakerphone option, there is a slight rattling when the volume's set high?
This is quite annoying if common and is something other speakerphone phones seem to suffer from.
Anthony

XDA2 not as good as it looks
Hi there
I have my XDA2 for 5 months and I´m in love with it, whenever one of my freinds mention its faults I get upset :?
But, we all know that the XDA2 is FAULTY big time, sofware not well developed yet, and yes, we think twice about buying software (same apply to hardware)
I have learn how to live with all this, still think that the XDA2 is a top tool for work and everyday life and I hope that other machines come to the market to compete, then we will get value for money

Bad Sound Quality
Hi,
I also bought a MDA II (T-Mobile Germany) some weeks ago. I really like it, but I also think that the sound quality is not the best. There are two effects that annoy me:
1. I can hear a high pitched beep in the speaker, always when the device is switched on (not only when talking on the phone but always if it is switched on). It is not very loud, but I can hear it clearly in quiet environment (my ears are still too good I think...).
2. The sound has to much "base" and to less "treble". Well, you can understand the person on the other end but this is definitly the worst sound quality I ever had on a phone.
This is the only thread I could find discussing this problem, leading me to the conclusion that either most phones are good and I got a bad one or most people don't bother if a very expensive phone sounds like a $5 toy...
Is there a chance to get a better sounding replacement phone or should I learn to be happy with it?
Regards,
Oli

Sounds Rubbish
Hi guys
i noticed the sound isn't as good as the XDA I when playing mP3's or MPG files on it.
does anyone know if there is anything that can be done to correct this ??
other than buying a set of speakers to go with it, doesn't seem much else ! ;(

any solution for this???????

I've got the same problem, however I've noticed that the sound is clear when I use the XDA 2 with my tomtom navigator the voice instructions are very clear, its strange + when I use the speaker phone the other party can hardly hear me.

sorry to tell you this, but i have got mine repaired and strange that they changed the motherboard to get rid of this problem, means it is a mother board problem not speaker or software.

Re: Bad Sound Quality
ruiner said:
Hi,
I also bought a MDA II (T-Mobile Germany) some weeks ago. I really like it, but I also think that the sound quality is not the best. There are two effects that annoy me:
1. I can hear a high pitched beep in the speaker, always when the device is switched on (not only when talking on the phone but always if it is switched on). It is not very loud, but I can hear it clearly in quiet environment (my ears are still too good I think...).
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The high pitched beep is caused by the poor filtering of the power electronics of the background lightning of the touchscreen. It is worse if the light is set to low. If you set it one or two notches higher, the beep sound will go away (or at least you won't hear it anymore).

Low Volume

Maybe its just the headphones that are supplied with the M5000, but it seems a little quiet to me. When I'm listening to Podcasts on the tube with it, I sometimes can barely hear whats being said. I never had this issue with my PDA2K.
Anyone know of anything that can be done to crank the volume up higher?

Yes, push O2 etc. to release a ROM update for this known issue

same problems here on the tube though sometimes - eg this morning - the volume was really high despite all settings being the same and listening to the same mp3s as yesterday.
Using different headphones seems to help a bit but there is definitely something not correct...

I have the Qtek 9000 and the volume using my AKG-Earphones is very high!

I have the feeling, the volume on my MDA Pro ist very law, too. When I ride a bike with my earphones, it's to quiet for me. I can't find in "settings" something like "system volume" (in my old iPaq there was something like this) Is there any way to solve this problem?

Silesian750 said:
I have the feeling, the volume on my MDA Pro ist very law, too. When I ride a bike with my earphones, it's to quiet for me. I can't find in "settings" something like "system volume" (in my old iPaq there was something like this) Is there any way to solve this problem?
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My small opinion:
There are so many locations where you set the sound volume.
Just to check, as I had the same problem:
1. The slider button on the front side is put on max?
2. The Windows mediaplayer (if you use that) has a plus and minus... Is it on 100%
3. And then maybe your headset has a sound volume wheel also?
If not satisfied, there is an option to enhance your soundfiles.
I used it for my Nokia 9500 and it works fine.It runs on your Pc and is free. Its called mp3gain.
http://mp3gain.sourceforge.net/
It can do all files in a folder in one time. Dont exagerate however or your sound will be distorted. Start with small steps (3db?)
There are different options. just use the tool to add some db's.
Menu/modify gain/apply constant gain and move the slider 3 db.
Huib

herpi said:
Silesian750 said:
I have the feeling, the volume on my MDA Pro ist very law, too. When I ride a bike with my earphones, it's to quiet for me. I can't find in "settings" something like "system volume" (in my old iPaq there was something like this) Is there any way to solve this problem?
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My small opinion:
There are so many locations where you set the sound volume.
Just to check, as I had the same problem:
1. The slider button on the front side is put on max?
2. The Windows mediaplayer (if you use that) has a plus and minus... Is it on 100%
3. And then maybe your headset has a sound volume wheel also?
If not satisfied, there is an option to enhance your soundfiles.
I used it for my Nokia 9500 and it works fine.It runs on your Pc and is free. Its called mp3gain.
http://mp3gain.sourceforge.net/
It can do all files in a folder in one time. Dont exagerate however or your sound will be distorted. Start with small steps (3db?)
There are different options. just use the tool to add some db's.
Menu/modify gain/apply constant gain and move the slider 3 db.
Huib
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one of the definitive nominees for "Captain Obvious"!!
(spoken in a lighter sense....)
cheers!
S

System Volume
I have already bought the headphones from Sennheiser, and the sound quality and volumen is much, much better now, when I compare it to the original headphones. But I will proof Your advises, too.
Thanks for the tips.
Hallo from Poland :wink:

But with these new headphones can you still answer calls and such?

Harry-Willi said:
I have the Qtek 9000 and the volume using my AKG-Earphones is very high!
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Do the headphones make that much difference?
I have a cheap pair of off-brand headphones and my Qtek 9000 is very quiet. :?

Good earphones make a huge difference. I was really surprised. I use them only for music listening and not for calling.

Use pocket player or similar and adjust the pre-amp settings.

Low Phone headset volume

I would like to know if there is a way to hack the registry to increase / boost the phone headset volume. Please note I am not talking about the "speakerphone" volume, I just find that when talking to someone on the phone headset it seems alot softer than the Wizard that I had before, even when the volume is set to max.

i would also like to know how to do this. i feel like my wizards ear piece volume was deafening.. but on the tytn its so incredibly low

I don't have a problem with the headset, but even on the highest volume setting the phone's earpiece speaker is a bit too quiet.
Any thoughts anyone?
Thanks.

Same hear, just to darn low at the highest volume setting. I see there are fixes for other HTC phones but nothing specific for this phone. Has anyone on this board managed to hack the registry and find an effective fix to increase the earpiece volume?

i'd love this as well - just bought one of these :
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=138247
and the volume level is VERY disappointing. my wizard used to have an acceptable volume level but i can't imagine being able to hear music on my tytn with traffic around. :-(

Loud Audiopara file from wife's X1-Vodacom South Africa

Hi all,
As promised in another thread (which I cannot find now), here is the Audiopara file from my wife's X1. Believe me when I tell you that all sounds are loud!
Let me know if it helps you.
Regards,
MAC

Going through it I can't see any difference between that and the stock VFUK one, mm maybe it is something else then.
Okay there are a few differences when run trhough Diff so I'll give it a test and see.

here's the differences, first line is the SA one, 2nd line is the UK one, sorry don't think I can Table data in this forum
Code:
B0,PHONE_HEADSET_VOL0,0,0,0,4000,2013,0,5A67,390a,422,FF
B0,PHONE_HEADSET_VOL0,0,0,0,4000,2013,0,5A67,390a,422,FFFF,0,
B1,PHONE_HEADSET_VOL1,0,0,1,4000,2d4e,0,5A67,390a,422,FF
B1,PHONE_HEADSET_VOL1,0,0,1,4000,2d4e,0,5A67,390a,422,FFFF,0,
B2,PHONE_HEADSET_VOL2,0,0,2,4000,4000,0,5A67,390a,422,FF
B2,PHONE_HEADSET_VOL2,0,0,2,4000,4000,0,5A67,390a,422,FFFF,0,
B3,PHONE_HEADSET_VOL3,0,0,3,4000,4000,0,5A67,5092,422,FF
B3,PHONE_HEADSET_VOL3,0,0,3,4000,4000,0,5A67,5092,422,FFFF,0,
B4,PHONE_HEADSET_VOL4,0,0,4,4000,4000,0,5A67,71CF,422,FF
B4,PHONE_HEADSET_VOL4,0,0,4,4000,4000,0,5A67,71CF,422,FFFF,0,
B5,PHONE_HEADSET_VOL5,0,0,5,4000,4000,0,5A67,A0C2,422,FF
B5,PHONE_HEADSET_VOL5,0,0,5,4000,4800,0,5A67,A0C2,422,FFFF,0,
B6,PHONE_HANDSFREE_VOL0,0,0,0,4000,2D4E,0000,4000,2D4E,0
B6,PHONE_HANDSFREE_VOL0,0,0,0,4000,2D4E,0,4000,2D4E,422,FFFF,
B7,PHONE_HANDSFREE_VOL1,0,0,1,4000,2D4E,0000,4000,4000,0
B7,PHONE_HANDSFREE_VOL1,0,0,1,4000,2D4E,0,4000,4000,422,FFFF,
B8,PHONE_HANDSFREE_VOL2,0,0,2,4000,4000,0000,4000,4000,0
B8,PHONE_HANDSFREE_VOL2,0,0,2,4000,4000,0,4000,4000,422,FFFF,
B9,PHONE_HANDSFREE_VOL3,0,0,3,4000,4000,0000,4000,7fb2,0
B9,PHONE_HANDSFREE_VOL3,0,0,3,4000,4000,0,4000,7fb2,422,FFFF,
B10,PHONE_HANDSFREE_VOL4,0,0,4,4000,5A67,0000,4000,7fb2,
B10,PHONE_HANDSFREE_VOL4,0,0,4,4000,5A67,0,4000,7fb2,422,FFFF
B11,PHONE_HANDSFREE_VOL5,0,0,5,4000,7fb2,0000,4000,7fb2,
B11,PHONE_HANDSFREE_VOL5,0,0,5,4000,7fb2,0,4000,7fb2,422,FFFF
B12,PHONE_EARCUPLE_VOL0,0,0,0,4000,16B5,0000,A0C2,2013,E
B12,PHONE_EARCUPLE_VOL0,0,0,0,4000,16B5,0,A0C2,2013,E22,FFFF,
B13,PHONE_EARCUPLE_VOL1,0,0,1,4000,2013,0000,A0C2,2013,E
B13,PHONE_EARCUPLE_VOL1,0,0,1,4000,2013,0,A0C2,2013,E22,FFFF,
B14,PHONE_EARCUPLE_VOL2,0,0,2,4000,2D4E,0000,A0C2,2013,E
B14,PHONE_EARCUPLE_VOL2,0,0,2,4000,2D4E,0,A0C2,2013,E22,FFFF,
B15,PHONE_EARCUPLE_VOL3,0,0,3,4000,4000,0000,A0C2,2013,E
B15,PHONE_EARCUPLE_VOL3,0,0,3,4000,4000,0,A0C2,2013,E22,FFFF,
B16,PHONE_EARCUPLE_VOL4,0,0,4,4000,4000,0000,A0C2,2D4E,E
B16,PHONE_EARCUPLE_VOL4,0,0,4,4000,4000,0,A0C2,2D4E,E22,FFFF,
B17,PHONE_EARCUPLE_VOL5,0,0,5,4000,4000,0000,A0C2,4000,E
B17,PHONE_EARCUPLE_VOL5,0,0,5,4000,4800,0,A0C2,4000,E22,FFFF,
B18,PHONE_BTHEADSET,0,0,5,4000,4000,0000,4000,5A67,0422,
B18,PHONE_BTHEADSET,0,0,5,4000,4800,0,4000,5A67,422,FFFF,0,19
B19,PHONE_CARKIT,0,0,5,4000,4000,0000,4000,5A67,0422,FFF
B19,PHONE_CARKIT,0,0,5,4000,4000,0,4000,5A67,422,FFFF,0,190,0
B20,PHONE_TTY_FULL,0,0,0,4000,4000,0000,4000,4000,0422,0
B20,PHONE_TTY_FULL,0,0,0,4000,4000,0,4000,4000,422,0,0,320,0,
B21,PHONE_TTY_VCO,0,0,0,4000,2600,0000,4000,4000,0422,00
B21,PHONE_TTY_VCO,0,0,0,4000,2600,0,4000,4000,422,0,0,320,0,1
B22,PHONE_TTY_HCO,0,0,0,4000,4000,0000,4000,5A67,0422,00
B22,PHONE_TTY_HCO,0,0,0,4000,4000,0,4000,5A67,422,0,0,320,0,1
B23,CE_REC_INC_MIC,0,0,5,4000,4000,0000,4000,4000,0422,0
B23,CE_REC_INC_MIC,0,0,5,4000,4000,0,4000,4000,422,0,0,190,0,
B24,CE_REC_EXT_MIC,0,0,5,4000,4000,0000,4000,4000,0422,0
B24,CE_REC_EXT_MIC,0,0,5,4000,4000,0,4000,4000,422,0,0,190,0,
B25,CE_PLAYBACK_HEADSET,0,0,5,4000,4000,0000,4000,4000,0
B25,CE_PLAYBACK_HEADSET,0,0,5,4000,4800,0,4000,4000,422,0,0,1
B26,CE_PLAYBACK_HANDSFREE,0,0,5,4000,FEC9,0,4000,4000,422,0,0
B26,CE_PLAYBACK_HANDSFREE,0,0,5,4000,FEC9,0,4000,4000,422,0,0
B27,CE_SYS,0,0,5,4000,4000,0000,4000,4000,0422,0000,0000
B27,CE_SYS,0,0,5,4000,4800,0,4000,4000,422,0,0,190,0,320,320,

has anyone tested the new file against the original ?

what's this actually? registry hack? a new file?

it's a replacement file that may make the volume louder ...

becareful the hack is actually trying to increase the gain which may distort the audio quality. It can be quite obvious (in terms of loudness at the expense of the quality) but it will magnify the audio quality problem when you use the earphone..

zenkinz said:
becareful the hack is actually trying to increase the gain which may distort the audio quality. It can be quite obvious (in terms of loudness at the expense of the quality) but it will magnify the audio quality problem when you use the earphone..
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There is absolutely no distortion on my wife's X1, neither on the device nor the standard headset. I also bought her a Sony-Ericsson Bluetooth Stereo Headset over the weekend, and it works like a dream! We also tried a pair of other headsets we have at home, and all work beautifully.

Headphones definitely is louder, too loud for me on full volume, and that's from years of deafness due to bassplaying ;P
Ringvolume seems to be the same.

strange that you need the hack to increase the volume for headset.
I had to lower down the volume to 20% if I'm using media player with my ear phone, considering that I'm abit of tone-deaf, this is extremely loud

Htc hd2 sound quality

When I talk on this phone, the sound is very poor... Although not too loud (like other complaints) but the sound crackles at high frequencies... The speakerphone is even worse...
Is anyone aware of some tweaks to improve communication sound on this phone?
Can AudioBooster be set up to work with the phone's sound not only the music player? Any other options ???
Thank you in advance.

Sui Generis said:
When I talk on this phone, the sound is very poor... Although not too loud (like other complaints) but the sound crackles at high frequencies... The speakerphone is even worse...
Is anyone aware of some tweaks to improve communication sound on this phone?
Can AudioBooster be set up to work with the phone's sound not only the music player? Any other options ???
Thank you in advance.
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I think the high volume on this phone is artificially boosted over what it's meant to be, i.e. HTC have modified the audiopara (or something like that) in the Windows folder to try and boost the speakers sound over what it's meant to be.
(Something that ROM coookers figured out on the Diamond I think).
I think, maybe someone can reduce those values back to normal? The speaker will be a little quieter, but it won't crackle or distort as much.

Sui Generis said:
When I talk on this phone, the sound is very poor... Although not too loud (like other complaints) but the sound crackles at high frequencies... The speakerphone is even worse...
Is anyone aware of some tweaks to improve communication sound on this phone?
Can AudioBooster be set up to work with the phone's sound not only the music player? Any other options ???
Thank you in advance.
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How big are these sound crackes...are these continous or at high volume ...

hi
i have the same problem , maybe ill try lower the sound down a bit? or opfully there might be a patch to fix this ?

same problem here

same problem... crackling noise in speaker. Many seem to have this :/

I have same problem and I hope someone will fix this.
Any news?

YES
Change radio!!! without 576MB RAM fix

sound quality
same here the sound quality from both the earpiece and loudspeaker is very poor quality ihave had my phone replaced 3 times and its the same on all , very dissapointing on a phone of this quality bearing in mind its main function is as a phone !!

Zenk_77 said:
YES
Change radio!!! without 576MB RAM fix
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Which radio do you recommend? I have Leo_RADIO_2.07.50.27_2 and a terrible sound while on the phone.
Sound is to loud, impossible to lower volume enough. Much distortion even at lowest volume (which still is to loud). Bad sound in cable handsfree and BT handsfree.
Soundquality while playing music on the other hand is perfect in speaker, handsfree and BT handsfree.
Suggestions?

Since sound is often a pretty subjective matter, so I'd like to interject that the phone network only transmits from around 300 Hz to 3,000 Hz. Therefore the sound of a voice over your phone will never sound as clear and nice as it should, let alone like the 192 kbps-MP3-file you are playing
If it's worse compared to other phones however it's, as stated above, likely a problem with the radio. I use the 2.08.50.08_2 from [REF]The HTC HD2 Radio ROM Thread and have a quite decent quality.

I agree totally - if it sounds good or bad is individually. But, the sound quality in my HD2 is far worse than in my 5 years old SonyEricsson, and when I borrowed a Nokia the other day I was surprised how good (clear, crisp, distorsion free) a cell phone can sound.
I have a lot of distorsion and all too loud sound. Often I have to hold my phone 20 cm away from my ear just to avoid getting half deaf..
Thanks for the tip, I'll try the 2.08.50.08_2 Radio and hope for a better sound

you can try this hotfix...worked very well @my hd2
i got this from another forum.
little info: some users said that the soundlevel is now always set up to 100%...but try it on your own!

Köttel said:
you can try this hotfix...worked very well @my hd2
i got this from another forum.
little info: some users said that the soundlevel is now always set up to 100%...but try it on your own!
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Thanks, trying it now, will report back after tomorrow's hardcore testing at work..

Return it if you can...
I had Nokia E71 before and it's speaker is fo another level better than HD2... BUT, question is: when I'm gonna use speakerphone on my HD2? ... almost never

Seems better, but a little to subjective at the moment. Will keep trying and report back!

Definitely better after the patch. Quite good actually. I have not seen any side effects yet, only clear sound, and better volume.
Thanks for the hotfix!
Will try it on my colleague's phone also now.

sound quality
I used the hotfix as well but it appears to have made no difference whatsoever to the quality of sound during calls , so my phone is going back to htc again and if it returns with the same issues i will ask for a replacement as due to the ammoun of posts on here this is a major flaw in the phone and a highly irritating one too , i love this phone but the audio quality during calls is appalling in comparison to all my previous phones .

After a couple more days of testing I found out that the patch gave no effect at all. BUT: I found out another thing: Even though the system volume is at lowest according to the meter, if you increase, you actually lower the volume. So, if you during a call first increase and then decrease the volume, it gets acceptable. Still to loud though.
So, it seems like what HTC really should do is to get the dialer use the sound mixer properly. Today it is obviously oversteering which creates distorsion.

this is a war we won't win
Stor-Anders said:
After a couple more days of testing I found out that the patch gave no effect at all. BUT: I found out another thing: Even though the system volume is at lowest according to the meter, if you increase, you actually lower the volume. So, if you during a call first increase and then decrease the volume, it gets acceptable. Still to loud though.
So, it seems like what HTC really should do is to get the dialer use the sound mixer properly. Today it is obviously oversteering which creates distorsion.
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I've bought my HD2 back in Dec the 11th and since then I've been in contact with HTC about fixing this problem. They've given me a debug tool to run on my device, sent the logs twice and so far they've done nothing about it. I've given up. What I do for outgoing calls, while it rings I turn the volume all the way up and then all the way down before the other party answers. doing this you get a decent sound. Can't do much about the incoming calls,
As far as flashing different radios and roms... I've flashed about 30time already. tried all the possible radio/rom combinations but with only slight different results. Nothing to brag about!
the fix I attached helps a little bit!
If anybody finds and cure let us all know! please!!!!!