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Battery Life

My wizard seems to have an amazingly long battery life.
After owning every previous XDA (1, 2, 2s, 2i) I expect - in fact demand - that my PDA needs charging daily.
I feel positively cheated by the fact that I hardly ever seem to need to charge my Wizard - it goes for days without seeing the USB cable; I just checked it after four days and it still had 40% power left. Plus even if I do let it run down I still don't lose my data. What do HTC think they are doing?
I'll definitely be sending mine back.
Anybody got an old Rex going spare?

i'm confused... why you sending it back? mines been running for i'd say about 24 hours since i took it off its initial charge cycle and its at 52%

I actually have two rexi. They're still pretty much the cutest PDA I ever saw. Got them when I was in Singapore, was so chuffed! Reading ebooks on the bus was a new idea back then :shock: Needs a new battery now though!
V

LOL
If you really wanna drain the battery, just surf using wifi with the screen on full bright & powersave mode off. it'll be just like using a crappy old PDA (battery wise) - dead within a few hours :lol:

Sorry fone_fanatic - it's called the "British sense of humour" (or humor to you). Ask a Canadian - they can probably explain it to you :wink:

I have just noticed that my wizard battery lasts much longer (a few days also) when I charge it with the USB cable (attached to PC). It seems that, for some reason, the power adapter does not charge it the way it should (it reaches 100% in a couple of hours while it takes longer with USB sync cable)...
Am I the only one ?
Cheers,

My battery drians really fast please help is this normal

I just bought a T-moble USA version MDA. I love this thing but my battery is draining very fast. For example I charged it over night last night after it was dead and this morning after only making a few calls with my bluetooth I was down 10% in about 15 minutes. It used all the battery yesterday in about 7 hours. I would say I use this thing less then the average user. I have a sd card in it all the time would that make this drain fast. My wifi and blue tooth is off most of the time.
Thanks for any help offered.
Garth

I have found the battery meter not totally accurate for example it may show 85% and then I reboot the device it may show 100% - so be wary of that and make sure you are truly starting from 100%. Bluetooth enabled calls will use a fair amount of juice but poss not as high as 10% in 15 minutes . On low to average use you should be getting about two days use but if you been checking out all the features and playing with you're new toy then 5-10 hours about right.
Make sure that you have all power saving settings enabled found under settings and that the device goes into standby when not in use. hope that helps

get a new?
I bought my Qtek 9100 and hade the same problem... i took it back to the store.. they took the phone and replaced it with a new one and this new one havent been like that.. so i guess that you have goten a "monday morning phone" so try to get your phone replace i did and now the battery remains powerfull atlast 3 days

Thanks for the info I'm going to keep it for a couple of day and if it keeps draining the battery I will swap it for another.

My wizard battery only lasts half a day now?!

Hi, my batter has been working great since Christmas, but now for some reason won't last more than a fwe hours without saying battery low. I have my gprs check email every 5 minutes, but it has always been that way and I have been gettnig a good 2 days out of my phone before.
Now i take it off of the charger in the morning and then around lunch the batter is low already...
Is my batter just toast?
Should I get another?
THANKS!
T

Just a question, but have you been overclocking your TI OMAP processor? Maybe there's a correlation?

contaygious said:
Hi, my batter has been working great since Christmas, but now for some reason won't last more than a fwe hours without saying battery low. I have my gprs check email every 5 minutes, but it has always been that way and I have been gettnig a good 2 days out of my phone before.
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Mine is brand new (tmobile MDA) and when I enabled 802.11g I noticed a dramatic drop in battery life. I think for the sake of the battery I will only enable that as needed.
I wonder also if you are in the same proximity to the mobile towers, if you are on a border between coverage you will see a drop in battery life becuase it is transmitting more frequently to register with the mobile network.
To try to see if its your battery or something you are using, and while this may be incredibly difficult with a mobile, especially a mobile/pda that you use frequently, you may want to see about turning off features to see if that helps. Turn off wifi and see if that helps, turn off bluetooth and see about that, etc. Once you rule them out as the major culprit ...
While I highly doubt this may be the case, it is a possiblity, and worth looking into, especially if you noticed a sudden drop in battery life as opposed to a gradual diminishment. You may have some rogue software that is sending out more data via a wireless device than you desire. A worm, trojan, whatever. There are anti-virus packages available, I dont know how good any of them are, http://www.freecabs.de has some, some of the big commercial guys make some. Again I dont think its that becuase of the rules of probability, however it is possible and some have been known to exist in the wild for a few years now.

T,
I had the same thing with my c500, now I know they are two entirely different phones but after I flashed the device it was as good as new in terms of battery life.
It may be worth a try before you go and buy a new battery.
Marc

I have the same problem.
Not overclocking, no anti-virus, just regular phone use and my battery does not last a day!!
I keep it on charger most of the day to avoid shut-down.

me too
I've the same problem and I've an other big problem, when I turn off my Vario, it's dont't start on power botton (i must extract and insert a battery turn on the telephone).
We can make a test if anyone have a HTC diagnostic software (see service manual.pdf)

Check your today screen.
I too had the same issue. Mainly, PhoneDashboard was causing the battery drop. Along with any today elements that poll your hardware to display the amount of battery, memory and storage. Those all drain your battery.
To check whether it's really a today screen issue or not. Charge your battery to it's full 100%, remove ALL today screen elements, then use your mobile normally and keep checking the battery level drain rate.
Hope this was useful.

Mine dies, 100% when leave work, some usage and then dead in the morning.
I only have Pocketbreeze and a few plug ins installed.
There is NO wireless /bluetooth in that time.

KINetics said:
Just a question, but have you been overclocking your TI OMAP processor? Maybe there's a correlation?
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nope.
I have not been using wifi at all lately either
I have spb today stuff but have had them since I first got my wizard. really, I have not changed anything....

some programs "eat up" battery life. Investigate by doing a HARD reset, then do not install ANY software for two days. I bet you will see your normal battery life ;-)

I took all today programs off
100% at 5.30
32% at 7.30
This is O2 Mini Rom without all the 02 crap.
I will investigate further. Hard reset here we come!!

Last night my battery was 100% at 5.30 after a hard reset, no o2 software installed and very light usage.
This morning at 7.35 it was 50% which is good I guess???
Suggestions as to whether it is the battery?

byronsp said:
Last night my battery was 100% at 5.30 after a hard reset, no o2 software installed and very light usage.
This morning at 7.35 it was 50% which is good I guess???
Suggestions as to whether it is the battery?
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Still not good enough, should hold for 3 days if you do not use it. Get a battery replacement.
Typically I charge every other day, little phone talks however.

PhoneDashboard was causing the battery drop
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Ah, I run this. Is it bad? I've turned off all the scrolling updates etc - did you find that helped?

Got a battery replacement but still after no real use dropped to 50% in only 13 hours.
Any other ideas?

mine works for about 5 days normal usage with this options:
- phone on
- bt off
- wifi off
- automatically receive IrDa incoming... (Connections ->beam...)
so the wifi on my batt only last for a few hours, but when you disable wifi and the irda incoming you should have more batt. life

Thanks I will give this a try and have taken out irDA.
However my figures were with Bluetooth and Wireless off as well

I have noticed that with wifi on (and particularly if I'm using it) the battery drops at a frightening rate. Whereas with wifi disabled (which it's been for most of today - first day since I've had the XDA that I've been busy working and so haven't been 'fiddling' with it at all ) the battery still seems to be sitting happily at 80% after around 8 hours.
Funny, I thought that if the phone was suspended, the wifi would be inactive, so the battery wouldn't drop. Appears that's not the case...

Do u have Spb Pocket Plus installed? this program sucked my battery flat in 1 day. I removed it and now its up 2 or 4 days depending on how long i have wifi on. Checking email every 5 min also reduces battery life allot.
goodluck

No pocket plus... My today screen just has phmtray, resco today, taskplus, and the pocketmusic plugin...

tytn battery life

yo homies
just wondering what sort of batterylife are you getting out of your tytns.
post your times like this
wifi--
media playback--
phone--
GPRS--
anything else you care to mention--
cheers Ganon

firstly bought my 838pro (dopod variant) less than a week ago, so have not gone through everything yet
wifi - yet to try
media playback - little
phone - 2hr+ per day
GPRS - yet to use (did play with the videophony a few days back)
Battery was recharged about 3 days ago, so its ~3days I guess...
One thing to take note is the battery indicator is bit querky, the level is scaled on a 10% rate, eg 100%->90%->80% etc

Battery Seem to last for a bit m ore than a day depending on usage.
I believe that it has the stardard/average PPC phone battery power longetivity but the battery reports every 10% instead of 1% is inacceptable...

Battery Indicator
Does anyone know how modify the battery indicator to run at 1% intervals?

I cannot find a solution to this yet. Hopefully some of the experts will...

I dont get why the fact that the battery goes down in
10% leaps instead of 1% bothers people so much. It does not make the thing less accurate,
perhaps it makes it even more accurate since depending on use one percent might
go a lot faster then another.
I'am quite a heavy user, so I recharge daily for few hours, when
the phone is connected to my comp.

I understand. As a heavy PDA Phone user. The TyTN battery seems to last for quite a long time. But the increment of 10% is too big for a battery meter.
Just like a thermometer, 2~3 degree celcius changes are not very significant for what we feel. But that doesnt mean it shouldnt show every 1 degree
For the car fuel indicator, no one would want it to pop from 10% to 0% all in a sudden. Altho we all know that 10% means low on fuel.
The resolution of 10% is too big IMO for this application UNLESS there is a significant reason for it to be 10% like it will drain ALOT of battery if it is being reported every 1 or 2%.

Hi
My XDA trion makes me sad.
The first time all works fine, but now the charging end at 90% and after 1 day the battery-tool says "low of battery"!
I tried a softreset, but the problem dont disappeared.
Can you help me?
EnzephaloN

I read in some review that it can play MP3s for 8 hours? Has anyone tried how long they can play MP3s for?

I have the same problem as EnzephaloN.
After charging my Dopod 838 pro to full charge in the afternoon. The following day, when i wake up, it is down to 20%!!
Has anyone else experienced the same problem?
I barely used the phone during this period and I have turned off Wi-Fi and Bluetooth.

oswin said:
I have the same problem as EnzephaloN.
After charging my Dopod 838 pro to full charge in the afternoon. The following day, when i wake up, it is down to 20%!!
Has anyone else experienced the same problem?
I barely used the phone during this period and I have turned off Wi-Fi and Bluetooth.
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mine's even worse, charge overnight, and after taking of charge at 9am it's dead by 4pm after just a few calls and the rest of the time on standby, noticed that the machine stays slightly warm all the time. the few times that it has held a charge it is cool to the touch, even when using it

switch to gsm band.......and use UMTS band only if necesary

am using only gsm band, but still the machine only lasts 4-5 hours on a charge. Stays warm the whole time

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am using only gsm band, but still the machine only lasts 4-5 hours on a charge. Stays warm the whole time
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Mine only gets warm with intense browsing, streaming media, or wi-fi use more than 30min or so.
Also when i have UMTS/3G off mine will last all day. but with it on, it'll last a little more than half a day.

if it stays warm, i suspect you have some background task running all the time or your power saving has been turned off, why don't you do a full backup, then hard reset and test again? mine works more than a day with UMTS turned off and less than a day with it on.

Help - Battery Drain excessive

*jump to ashtricks for immediate problems without reading software/ROM changes.
I know this is going to be made especially difficult with all the different software/combo's that can be loaded, but I have to post this up and see if any one else has seen this and if it might be hardware or software.
I have a HERMS 100 (8525). I first got the phone in April with WM5 (don't know which build they might have been on then) and which ever Radio was coming on them then. My battery would usually last 2 days with my avg use.
This has been the case threw upgrades until the last 2-3 months. I upgraded From one version of WM6 to VP3G's 2.X build of WM6 and I upgraded the radio to which ever version was the newest at that time (maybe 1.47 or 1.50). I Noticed a sudden drop in battery life, but the phone pretty much always made it a full day even with high use, so I didn't think much of it. I did notice about this time that sometimes the phone would alarm me and say it had 20% battery remaining, but if I rebooted the phone it would say 80 or 90% power remaining when it came back on and work fine the rest of the day.
The following has been over the last month. I upgraded to VP3G's 3.0 and again later to 3.6 and again to 3.62. I noticed the battery continued to degrade throughout this time. So I upgraded the radio to 1.54. The battery continued to go down hill at an even rate, but I noticed something else, the battery would not take very long to charge, but was dying faster and faster.
Well I started tracking and experimenting. Starting last week (no change in software or ROM's for the last 2 or 3 weeks) the battery would rarely make it through the day even when the phone was not in use any during the day (Granted I get no cell service at my desk at work, but I never have even back when the phone would last 2 days searching for signal). Most days last week it wouldn't make it 5 hours from being unplugged even when the phone wasn't in use. I decided to run the battery all the way down to where it wouldn't even turn the phone on anymore as I had heard sometimes you needed to do that after a rom upgrade. It did not help, but I noticed that the phone said the battery was fully charged within 2 hours from being completely dead.
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Today was the worst, I unplugged it after being plugged in all night. Unplugged it at 6:45am. I did not use the phone, it just stayed in standby (I hadn't even taken it out of standby any today. I am at work with no service (When I say no service, I don't mean sometimes it finds something, I mean no cell service from any carrier makes it past 10 feet of the front doors entering the building and I am about 150 feet from the closest wall to the outside). I grab the phone at around 10:30am to check on a meeting notice, clicked on the phone to wake up and the battery alarm alerted and the battery said I only had 20% power remaining. In 5 minutes of doing what I was doing the battery had gone down to 10% remaining (so the phone went from lost 90% of it's power, never being used in less then 4 hours). I went back to my desk, plugged the phone back in and within an hour I noticed the amber light on the front that I relate it to telling me it's charging had turned green, I unplugged it and checked it and the battery said it was full 100%. Could the battery really charge that fast?
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I know this would be easier if I could remember what radio and what version of WM5 came on this phone and loaded it back on and I am in the middle of downgrading the radio since I had ran WM6 with no battery issues separate from WM5 until I did that one upgrade with the radio. I guess I am curious if this could be a hardware (phone or battery) where it's not charging fully or if this seems to be a software issue.
I know all the factors that can be involved make this hard, but thanks for any responses you guys can give.

ok, how about this one, Is my battery screwed? I notice while I am using the phone the battery gets really hot. Today it did the same thing of all of a sudden saying I had 10% power after only using it for 5 mintues, rebooted the phone and now I am back to 70%.

Hi,
There's a lot on here about this problem. Have you read the wiki?
Some solutions you might try:
- turn wifi off.
- turn off all beams
- put in the fake server trick.
- search to see if you have any software that continuously polls the battery or is seeking an exchange server
- ensure all your apps fully close rather than minimise
- invest in a new battery.
WB

Thanks, I have gone through the wiki Continuasly since I got the phone in April, but with all the stuff out there, I could have easily missed something.
- turn wifi off - Never turn it on
- turn off all beams - Beaming disabled
- put in the fake server trick - Have to research that one
- search to see if you have any software that continuously polls the battery or is seeking an exchange server - have to check, don't have exchange server setup. I do have it checking emails every 15 minutes, but I never had any issues with that setting and the battery lasting a couple of days
- ensure all your apps fully close rather than minimise - X button set to close not minimize and I often check it to see whats running.
- invest in a new battery. - Will be doing that next. Just waiting to see what case I might get for Christmas.
Thanks again, I will research those other items.

I had a similar problem where the stock battery would only ever last for ~7-8 hours - even on standby. I got an extended life 3000mAh battery and that managed to last for about 14 hours.
I had a talk to HTC and they agreed to warranty claim it. I'm still waiting for it back... It was sent back to them on 14/11, and I'm still waiting.

Stop your device checking for emails for a few days and ses what happens. Definitely install the fake server trick. Activesync continuosly trying to do its dirty work can be a pain in the arsenal, at times.
Let us know how you get on.
WB

wacky.banana said:
Stop your device checking for emails for a few days and ses what happens. Definitely install the fake server trick. Activesync continuosly trying to do its dirty work can be a pain in the arsenal, at times.
Let us know how you get on.
WB
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Well I turned off email checks last night and disabled the radio this morning so it wouldn't search for signal when coming to work and set the phone on my desk. I never used it this morning, just had it sitting on my desk in standby, until about 4 hours after I took it off the charger and the phone buzzed me and when I checked the phone the battery said 0% remaining and the phone cut off a few seconds later (now I am sure if I would have turned it back on the battery would say something like 70%, but I didn't do that this time). I left the phone off and plugged it into the computer to charge, the LED on the front come on amber for about 20 minutes then went to green. I turned the phone on and it says 100%. I don't see how the battery went from 0 to 100 in a matter of 20 minutes.
I did a lot of searching the last couple of days and phone issues from email to bad manufactured batteries (which I happen to have the brand someone suggested as a bad one), I also saw people pointing out do the fake server trick, yet I can't find a single time where anyone said what the trick is or how to do it. Not even in the WIKI where the trick was mentioned as a possible fix (or google for that matter, just the same words first posted in a thread here about it).
So, how do you do this server trick?
I plan to get a new battery after Christmas at any rate.

Check this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=338421&highlight=fake+server+trick
I was having the same battery drain problem (less than 8 hrs on a full charge), I did the fake server and turned off auto day light saving time checking the clock settings, I now get 12 - 15 hrs on a full charge.
I'm running vp3G's 3.62.3 AT&T ROM with radio 1.54.07.00

Thanks! I was just finishing flashing a new ROM when I saw this. I did the fake server trick, but this rom doesn't have the Dya Light Savings time option where the instructions say it should be. Maybe that's all removed by this rom. TIme will tell.
Thanks again.

@ Firehawkns
hey buddy!!
I am using a JasJam for the last 2 months. i dont know if my reply is useful to you or not. As far as battery life is concerned am impressed with mine. Am using TNT's latest ROM and my radio version is 1.54.07.00. I use my phone all day with couple of calls that last about 2-3 min each. But every night I get calls from my gf, to whom I talk for 3 hours straight(mostly starting from 11pm to 2 am) and every day I put my phone to charge after I finish the call. So after finishing the call I still have 50% of battery. Moreover our call starts right after I leave work at 11pm so by the time I reach home which is around 11.30pm my phone connects to wifi too. So all the time am on the call as well as an active wifi connection.
So as per my experience the battery life is cool. So try TNT ROM!!!

Interestingly enough, now I've got my phone back from the warranty claim, it's only drawing 81mA with backlight on, no wifi or BT. Before sending it back, it was drawing ~180mA with backlight on, no wifi or BT.
This will just about double the battery life that I get in theory...
Install BatteryStatus on your device and see what it tells you.

That is a cool program.
First off I really hope it isn't the phone, for one it's my third one from Cingular since the first two died within 2 weeks (back in may), second it's got one big gash down the corner where it came out of the holder and hit the road one day. I think that would be just enough reason for them to not do anything with it.
Anyway, I am going to replace the battery because I can't figure out why the phone is doing things like saying it has 20% batt remaing, then I reboot and it goes to 70%. I am hoping this is a battery issue. So far the phone has been unplugged for a tad less then one hour, has not been used and the battery meter is on 90%.
Battery Status is a kick butt program and I plan to do some searching today to see if people have benchmarked there ratings/draw. I notice mine jumps randomly. With wifi, BT, all programs all terminated, backlight on the lowest it will go and radio has one bar 3g sometimes, two bars Edge sometimes, but didn't change during watching this list below, but the MA does this every 5 second refresh:
111--190----125-----109----250----210-----140----135----226---111---etc.
I am currently running a barebones fresh flash WM6 rom with nothing installed except Cingulars media net/ISP settings, radio is 1.47.10. Going to try 1.50 today I think.
I turned the radio off just now and the MA went down (expected) to 84 and is jumping between that and 104. The battery has dropped to 80% since I listed 90 above. The phone has now been unplugged for right at an hour. Also it might be interesting to note that the little battery percent/bar icon on the "Battery Status" software once in a while will display -1% like it is right now, the phones battery display says 80% and when I tap the battery icon on battery status it jumps to 80%.
Anyway, I am just listing points since this thread is here, I know I need to replace the battery first before any additional insight can be brought forward.
Thanks everyone.

Hmm.. On my Schaps 4.22full, radio 1.54.00 on good reception (on Finnish network) I get around 30 mA with GSM and 3G when idling(no wifi, no bluetooth, no beam, backlight around halfway). With airplane mode on I get around 28 mA. Tried with backlight dimmest and the drain was 15mA on GSM network.
Usually I put the 3G off so the battery would last longer.
The phone takes more power when searching the network so it would be a good idea trying to switch the phone part off at your office.

Well, looks like it was indeed the battery. Over the last week the phone would randomly shut off (about 4 times a day), the battery would be at 10% within 4 hours even if the phone hadn't been used, and while using the phone you could almost watch the battery go from 90% to 30% within a 5 minute talk time, reboot the phone and it would be back at 80%.
Put in the new battery yesterday after charging over night and the phone not only didn't shut off at any point, but I had 60% power remaining by the end of the day (with some data and voice use).
The old battery was a Dynapack from China, that I had read on here is prone to defects.
Thanks for the help everyone, wish I would have gotten a new batt sooner.