Pardon me because this isn't entirely a Wizard specific questions although I am able to replicate the problem with my Cingular 8125 (new ROM) 100% of the time.
I'm not a stupid person. I've setup numerous wireless networks for corporations and home users. I always use WEP or WPA and never unencrypted (no) security.
In most situations, the wireless router does NOT supply the DHCP to the clients. It usually comes from another DHCP server on the same LAN segment. Typically, this is a Windows server although it could be a DHCP-assigning device, such as a Cisco router.
PCs have no trouble seeing the wireless network and connecting to it and getting addresses assigned to them. For a while, I couldn't do this on WPA security but upgrading firmware and software on the laptops (usually Dell) rectified this.
With my Wizard, both old and new ROMs, I can SEE the wireless networks and connect to them but I can NEVER get an IP address. It tries and tries and fails and fails and eventually gives up. (Yes, the Cingular proxy is turned off)
Yet, at the airport or other public places with free wireless, I have no problems connecting my Wizard to the access point and surfing away. Thus, I know its not (entirely) a Wizard issue. Of course, these public access points aren't encrypted which could be one of the reasons but I doubt its the only one.
As a test, I just built a new wireless router with a SSID (other than "default") and security turned on (WPA) and let the router act as the DHCP server. Wizard connected in seconds and was surfing away. So the obvious next question is: why doesn't this work when the wireless router ISN'T the DHCP server? Other machines (laptops and such) have no problem connecting to one wireless router and getting a DHCP address from another box yet my Wizard cannot.
I've tested this with D-Link and Belkin wireless routers (consumer-grade).
I've seen other people post that they cannot get their wireless to work on their Wizard and while the fix may not be on the side of the Wizard, I think others may be in the same boat I'm in so I'm hoping that maybe we can compare enough stories to narrow this down so that we CAN use our Wizards wirelessly!
Ken
Confusing...
maybe you should try assign a fix ip to your pocket's wifi adapter and see if it would work. or just let the wlan security turn OFF on your access point to see what would happen.
i guess that the network protocol stack is slightly different between a PC and a PPC, which limit the DHCP request route.
I have just purchased the Wizard, aka o2 XDA Mini S, and use it with my Belkin Wireless Access Point (WPA-TKIP Enabled, DHCP & NAT disabled) and Cisco ADSL Router (DHCP Server) without any problems.
I have assigned the Belkin Wireless Access Point a fixed IP address however, but I don't think this would make a difference.
The other thing I found was that the Wizard would not connect correctly to the Belkin using WPA with AES encryption, but switching it to WPA with TKIP works flawlessly.
Well, I suppose its encouraging that others with the same wi-fi routers are getting this to work but its discouraging that I'm having so much trouble!
Fixed IP does work (therefore, its unlikely a Wizard-only problem) but obviously a fixed IP doesn't let me roam from one hotspot (home) to another (work) very easily.
Haven't tried it sans-security yet although that might just prove a point, rather than be a perminant solution. I have tried WPA-PSK and WEP with the same (negative) results.
I personally have found that unless I change the power settings for the WiFi adapter to full power, its hit or miss.
Never have a problem maing connections, geting leases, etc with it there.
YMMV though
Regards - John
prob irrelevent
i found that before i active sync'd. the wireless monitor on my wizard showed a strong signal from the router. then after it synced, it picked up an IP from the servers dhcp fine.
also for lightweight simple security i use mac address filtering on the AP
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Done a search on various site but still no joy.
Just got a o2 XDA Mini S yesterday.But I cannot get it to connect to my wireless network at home.Its an open network, with a laptop,3 PC's,2 xbox's accessing it various times of day.All connect no problem.
My xda says my network is available,but cannot connect to it. Do I need to put in IP addresses in manually ? On the network cards section, it the SDIO WLAN wireless adapter that is used ?
Have tried allsorts,
First Question,
Is your WiFi router set to DHCP mode. If so then check that your device is also set to DHCP mode. If not change router to DHCP check that all your other devices are set to DHCP then you should automatically be allocated an IP address. A useful utility is WiFi Companion.
This scans for available networks and allows you to connect. it will also show you the IP address you have been assigned.
You could assign an IP address manually but this will have to be changed every time you walk on to another network. DHCP is better.
Regrads
Thanks for the info DW, it is my router,popped round a mates last night and it connected to his network ok.
Will check what you said and the firewall
not sure by what you mean exactly by open network.
but are you using MAC address filtering?
when I got the Sony Laptop, I was so eager to get it all setup etc, that I forgot bout the filtering, it would see the network, but refused to connect.
I'm having the same problem. My Exec can see the network but not connect. I investigated it a bit more and for some reason it keeps trying to use the same IP address as my laptop. It also cannot connect to the net to update Avant Go when it's syncing (via my laptop).
I've tried connecting with all other devices switched off, to avoid the IP address conflict, but still cannot connect to the internet.
I'm pretty much stumped.
Setting the Wireless power setting for best performance was the trump for me.
On my Vario - Settings - Connections - Wireless LAN - Power Mode
Thanks for the suggestion. I gave it a try but unfortunately it didn't help.
If my laptop is switched off my Exec can connect to my D-Link router, but I cannot access any internet resources. I presume that somewhere in the settings is the solution but I can't find it.
EXCELLENT db44!!!
For some reasons setting wireless "best performance" wortked for me too. Wizard (QTEK 9100 - gray market I guess as QTEK did not register on their site for me). I will still try Opera too.
Kind regards,
Oleg.
www.nano-science.com
same thing happened to my qtek. it detected the network but could not connect and sometimes when it got connected, i still couldn't surf the net. is there anything in the settings that i'm missing? i also tried to enter the IP address manually but no luck either.
My O2 XDA Mini arrived yesterday. It sees my wireless network (as well as two others in my neighborhood) but cannot/will not connect. I've tried everything I've read above - which confirms I'm on the right trail, but...
The D-Link DI-624 wireless router is in DCHP mode. I've dropped all security for connection trials. I've put the MAC address of the XDA in the router, just in case. I cannot find the IP address of the Mini (how do you do that?), but have tried with and without allowing the router to assign it a random and an assigned IP address. My router does NOT have the default (198.162, etc, etc IP address.) so I've been careful not to blindly follow standard instructions. Of course, I have tried with specific IP addresses, default gateway (router), etc, etc.
One clue is that after trying for a long time to connect to the networks it finds, I got one error message from the XDA saying it could not be assigned an IP address from the network(s). Good clue - wish I know what it means.
There are only limited settings to check on the XDA, so I'm wondering if I'm missing something on the router. Any ideas? Many thanks.
Im looking to get the Wifi working on my Vario at home. My current Access point wont connect due to T-mobile's lock out of the 802.11g.
So I can get a Access point that works, I thought it would be helpful to post up your Model with a Yes or No after you have tried all the different settings as posted on the forum e.g. different channels and mixed mode etc.
This is for g Locked Varios only please not ones with flashed ROMs.
Please keep it simple Model YES or NO.
Thanks
:wink:
To Start us off......
Inexq HR054g Access point (NO)
if your Wizard has b only (ROM issue, not hardware) then ANY router which is set to allow g only will fail to connect. yours "should" allow "b" devices to connect http://www.inexq.com/web1/images/product/spec/hr054g.htm
So maybe you have a setting that is allowing "g" only
Beeble said:
if your Wizard has b only (ROM issue, not hardware) then ANY router which is set to allow g only will fail to connect. yours "should" allow "b" devices to connect http://www.inexq.com/web1/images/product/spec/hr054g.htm
So maybe you have a setting that is allowing "g" only
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Router is set to mixed mode, it can see the network but wont connect
Have you got MAC address filtering enabled on your router and forgotten....I did.
Also try changing WLan card settings on your XDA from Best battery to best performance..Make a lot of difference. and many have found theirs connects after this
All turned off any other options
I have a BT2100 wireless router and mini-s, sometimes it won't connect until I stop active sync running on the mini-s ???
3-Com OfficeConnect ADSL Firewall Wireless 11g Router (set to mixed)
Vario will only connect when router set to open access i.e. security disabled. Any other setting i.e. WAP, WEP causes the routers internal DHCP server to fail to send an IP address back to the Vario... or the Vario being unable to acknowledge the router?
Have got a couple more routers comming my way, will post them up when Ive had a chance to test them
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3-Com OfficeConnect ADSL Firewall Wireless 11g Router (set to mixed)
Vario will only connect when router set to open access i.e. security disabled. Any other setting i.e. WAP, WEP causes the routers internal DHCP server to fail to send an IP address back to the Vario... or the Vario being unable to acknowledge the router?
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I've seen this issue detailed elsewhere but I can't remember exactly where - apparently for some reason the 3com sends back an IP v6 address when security is enabled, which the Wizard can't use.
So far I've used a cheapie Origo wireless router (conexant chipset) and a Netgear D834G (in mixed mode), my Wizard seems happy with both.
John
Hi!
I do have problem to connect the device (o2 xda mini S) to WLAN. It recognizes the network, asks for the WPA-PSK key and then attempts to connect - but fails.
If I configure the device with a static IP this IP shows up during the
connection process after a while but the device isn't connected anyway.
If I use DHCP I get no IP ever.
I also tried a very simple 8 alphanum character key.
What may be wrong here?
I hope you get an answer soon, because I have the same problem. Enter the key, then no connect. I also tried it with security turned off on the router, no connect. This thing connected every time before 2.26 ROM update.
bump - having the same issue
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Hope there's a reply; having the same issue but I think it's router specific too. I am on Dlink DI-614+ and a friend of mine who has DI-524 (i think) has no problem connecting reconnecting.
if you figure out a way to get it to work, please PM me... I have not figured out this problem yet.
I might try to disable all of my router settings (WEP).. but that would only mess my already configured other devices up.
Stupid question, but is it a B/G router or is it configured to only do one of them ?
Well, I got it to work by disabling encryption and leaving the AP all open...
So, apparently the software has some WPA-PSK-related bugs
Same thing with 2.24a Mr.Clean. Open AP works fine, and any encryption messes the whole thing up. The connection is done, it even gets the IP - and continues to blink arrows and no data comes through.
Windows Mobile only knows TKIP but as I was using AES and wanted to continue using AES on the other machines I configured the router to provide "TKIP and AES". Well, this didn't work but TKIP only actually works now.
I've been having the same problems, could connect to unsecured networks, no problems. The thing would just refuse to connect to my home WLAN (Belkin 54G set to B/G), secured with WPA-PSK and TKIP data encryption. However, just updated the router's firmware from the Belkin website, and BINGO!!!! It found the router, I entered the key and immediately connected, fast too. Just try updating the firmware of your router!
I agree on the router upgrades. And some routers are just crap, sorry to say. I've had bad luck with Belkins and Netgears. Linksys and D-Link typically give me much less problems. You also need to make sure that you installed the registry settings to enable G networks on you device (of course)
I have a Sonicwall using WPA-PSK with no problems.
I personally like molski's tweaks to make the necessary registry settings on my device ... http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=58438
Hope I was of some help.
I have a brand new wireless router; BELKIN N1 VISION.
I have set the security for this router as followed:
- Security Mode: WPA/WPA2-Personal(PSK)
- Authentication: WPA-PSK +WPA2-PSK
- Encryption Technique: TKIP + AES
Unfortunately my Qtek 9100 (with WM5) does find my wireless connection, but it refuses to make a connection after input of the WPA-code.
I'd try setting the security to either WPA-PSK or WEP. Some older laptops and wireless cards have issues with WPA2 and that could be causing it. Anyways, I'm probably wrong, thought I'd just throw it out there.
or also that you have a MAC (Media Access Control) Binding enabled on he router as a security measure.
I had the same problem yesterday, figured it out by adding my Wizard in the Access Control Enabled list.
Then there was the problem of not connecting automatically which I fixed by enabing IEEE.
Did anyone get this fixed ? - I have also bought a Belkin N1 - not MAC Enabled, no security enabled (WAP et al) - I live on a farm so that's not an issue !. My Nokia N95 *M works well with this over WiFi however my K-Jam finds the Router but cannot connect, comes back as unavailable all the time. HELP PLEASE !!!
hey guess what
my ignorant ass has.. the same problem!
my linksys router (WRT54G) has both b and g broadcasting (mixed)
i use static ip addresses and i'm not seemingly capable of assigning a static ip address on the G3.. before i attempted to assign the IP on the wiz, it would draw the connecting icon and eventually come back with "unable to obtain ip address"
so i knew that i needed to assign the ip.. so i gave it my best shot (i was able to do this on the laptop) and now it doesn't complain about not getting an ip address, it just never stops drawing the connecting icon, never connects, and i'm (obviously) unable to connect to the net via wifi.
any ideas or help or will this be a thread that just slowly rots without one of the xda-developer gods stepping in and solving problems for us brainless members?
hey man if it was a Ford i'd fix it for ya..
I know Google has said they are looking into it. But this is ridiculous. The N1 can not handle WPA2 connections. Even though it saves the connection and password, it almost never reconnects automatically. From what I was reading on the Google help forum, it appears to have compatibility issues with many retail routers and they suggest upgrading the firmware on our routers. Throughout my day, I may connect to 3 different APs. One is a standard Linksys wrt54g with sveasoft, the others I connect to are Cisco APs.
None of them automatically reconnect. Most of the time on the Linksys, I have to delete the connection on the phone and re-add it.
I still like this phone but between the 3g and wifi issue, it is a pain to use.
I won't pretend to understand all that you just said, but I can tell you that my router is set up using WPA2-PSK. Not sure if it is the same as just WPA2 but my N1 reconnects to mine whenever I get in range. Then at the office it will connect to the WPA2-PSK set up in there, and one more regular open connection that is available at our pool. Pretty much every time I look at it, it is connected to one of those 3. Or else if I am OOR of any of those, I am on 3G.
My home router is a Belkin -N. Work routers are a Netgear -N and a D-Link -N.
I've got a Netgear WNR2000 on WPA2, and I can confirm I occasionally have this issue with the phone not connecting to the network automatically. It usually does if I go into settings and touch it to reconnect again.
There is an easy solution for any WIFI problems, use a Mac Filter!!
I have to go into Settings > Wireless & Networks > WiFi Settings before my Nexus One will reconnect to my home router, which is also using WPA2-PSK.
Hopefully it'll be sorted in a firmware update, it is annoying having to go through 3 screens to do something that my Nokia Symbian phones have been doing without issue for almost5 years...
I am having no problems auto connecting to my home WPA2 network, I am using AES encryption and running DD-WRT firmware if it helps.
philaldred said:
There is an easy solution for any WIFI problems, use a Mac Filter!!
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Mac Filters are no replacement for WPA2 or encryption. Almost every device has the ability to spoof a mac address. Using a mac filter might help quickly eject roaming devices nearby, but it is NOT security.
Its like using a No Trespassing sign to replace locking your doors and windows.
i found that APNDriod may be a possible culprit....
Before I installed APNDriod , every times I go back home, my N1 will connect to my home WiFi almost immediately.
But after I install APNDriod, my N1 will not connect to my home WiFI.....I need to go into the Wireless setting screen, once i am on that screen WiFi it will connect.
But it is strange this I don't have this issue in my office, it just connect automatically before and after installing APNDriod.
Today I tried NOT to use APNDriod for a day and my N1 connect to my home WiFi without issue..... will do more experiment tmr.
Netgear WNR3500 w/ WPA2-PSK. Reconnects every time I am in range.
I find that my Linksys is the worst. The Cisco Aironet 1121 is better, but still has occasional connection issues. And I have not installed APNDroid.
On another note, when my phone switches from 3g to 2g and vice versa, it takes a long time for the data connection to resume
My network at home is setup with WPA2. I have no problems connecting to it... I click on the little wireless icon, and wait for it to say "wireless settings updated" and also wait for the wireless icon to show up near the time... then i will start browsing
I have a Dynalink RTA1025W
My wifi is working now. See h**p://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5773148&postcount=26
No problem reconnecting to my home network with WPA2 . Apple's Airport Extreme.
No problems here connecting to my Belkin N1 router. Connects the moment its in range.
Setup using WPA2-PSK
im having this exact same problem on my D-link Dir 615!
Pisses me off alot, i hope Google fix it!
I found that unless I was on channel 6 or 11 I had issues
AES-CCMP, TKIP or WPA Cisco521G will not connect
My cisco 521AP does not connect using any type of encryption, it only works with open authentication. Expensive phone like this that doesnt work with business class products is a joke.
xoveruk said:
My cisco 521AP does not connect using any type of encryption, it only works with open authentication. Expensive phone like this that doesnt work with business class products is a joke.
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@xoveruk - Someone must be able to help sort out this issue !
xoveruk said:
My cisco 521AP does not connect using any type of encryption, it only works with open authentication. Expensive phone like this that doesnt work with business class products is a joke.
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My suggestion is - check what you're doing wrong before assuming the phone is at fault. And check that you're using PSK.
SEC AUTH ENCRYPTION
No security None Open - working
WEP WEP Open - no
WPA-PSK TKIP WPA-PSK - no
WPA2-PSK AES CCMP WPA-PSK - no
android 2.2 on N1, FRF91