Hi There,
I am looking to purchase a device; mainly to be used to send/receive e-mail's on the move but also am interested in any extra functionality available to me!!
At the moment I am choosing between this (T-mobile Vario) and the Blackberry 8700. I was wandering if anyone would be willing to give me a quick comparison and maybe a personal reccommendation!!?
Also I was reading in a previous thread about a blackberry add on for the Vario....would anyone be able to give me a rough run-down on how/if that works at all please!!
I appreciate your understanding of my simple questions!!
Many Thanks
Dave
HTC Wizard .. its both cheaper and beter.
What good feature do you see in BlackBerry that HTC Wizard doesn't have?
I'm guessing that you've never used either a PDA or a Blackberry. The reason I say this is because if you had, the differences would be immediately obvious.
Blackberry is good at doing one thing and one thing only: email. There are very few apps available, and even fewer are free. There is no touchscreen. Browsing is difficult because of this, and many programs are a pain for the same reason. WM Smartphones has the same issue.
Both do email, but Blackberry is generally better (for now). What WM PDAs do better than Blackberry is... everything else. Look through these forums (fora?) and see what other people are doing with their PDAs. Anything they can do, NO MATTER THE PDA, you can do with a Wizard, and with very few exceptions, cannot do with a Blackberry.
My boss has a Blackberry from work, and I have a Wizard. I can't get my work email on my Wizard because it's not allowed yet at our organization. BUT, I can browse Outlook Web Access and view it when I want. I also can get my 5 personal email accounts on my Wizard, which he can't do on his Blackberry. Finally, he tried browsing Kelly Blue Book when buying a car, failed miserably and called me, and I looked it up on my Wizard.
Next, I have mapping programs, Word, Excel, Powerpoint, games, astronomy, a camera, dictionary, ebooks, music, videos, pictures, and on and on...
IMHO, anyone who's ever owned even a basic PDA would never bother choosing a Blackberry. You just lose so much functionality. If you don't need that and just want email, go for it.
uwaku said:
Blackberry is good at doing one thing and one thing only: email. There are very few apps available, and even fewer are free.
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Email with Wizard isn't a problem after the last ROM where SyncML for e-mail (push) is supported. You also have VPN support to accessing company networks.
uwaku .. what type of company mail setup do you have? You should not blame the Wizard for that your company don't allow you to connect your e-mail.
Comparing SyncML and BlackBerry.. is BlackBerry even a standard protocol? SyncML is a standard:
http://www.openmobilealliance.org/tech/wg_committees/workinggroups.html
Cool; sounds like the Wizard is definately more for me than the Blackberry....which is what I was leaning towards anyways. The one thing that I did want to know is whether you can get Hotmail on to the Wizard without having to go through the web browser (ie; go to www.hotmail.com).
Many Thanks
yes, hotmail access is pretty good on the wizard, It comes with Pocket MSN, once you've put your username and password into that it will add your hotmail emails and account the the windows email application, so no messing with www.hotmail.com
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Hey all,
We're currently evaluating WinMo devices to replace blackberries in our company... thus far the results have been a mixed bag to say the least.
I look after an exchange 2003 environment (SP2) so we're push-email ready, however there's one big thing holding us up - IM.
On the blackberries, we use something called Blackberry Messenger which is capable of both online and offline messages, and pretty infallible. It runs in the background and whenever a user is online handles the sign-on and message delivery, likewise if a user is offline the network queues the message until they're back online.
I can't find anything like this for windows mobile, can anyone suggest soemthing I'm missing? until I have this we're stuck with blackberry...
TIA
German T-Mobile is offering a BlackBerry Software Addon for the MDA Vario - I started a thread a while back right here in the forum.
Since I have no use for Blackberry, etc. I have not installed/used it. But maybe its what you are looking for.
The only way to do (online) IM now on WM5 devices is via PocketMSN I think.
Dont know any alternatives (especially that can handle offline IM).
I'm new here, but....
I know on the PC there is a program that handles offline messaging and it is available on the PocketPC now too. It's called ICQ. You can send a message offline and the person will receive it when they logon.
http://www.icq.com/download/ftp-pocketpc.html
Lemme know if that's what you're looking for.
you can use Agile Messenger.. Lets you use AIM/ICQ/Yahoo/MSN IM accounts. There's a thread someone in here that has the info on it.. just search the forums for Agile Messenger.
You might want to contact Jabber and work out somemthing with them, the idea's mentioned above are good but I know you need something internal (not somthing that has potential use for (ab)use/danger)
http://www.jabber.com/index.cgi?CONTENT_ID=690
Any day now, M$ is gonna release mobile office connect. If you use office connect already this will move the IM client out to WM5.
You can try Saki,
It has the features you mentioned as well as integrated email, RSS feeds, and others. I know a company that chose to use this software and wizards instead of Blackberries.
http://www.sakimobile.com
Let's not forget Microsoft's Live Communication Server (LCS) 2005 with the office communicator SIP client.
Raptor
Post #1 for me on this forum...here it goes:
First: I searched. I scoured. I actually read all the titles of all the posts on the 12 pages of this Tytn board to look for the answer to this question, so I'm feeling pretty good about not getting flamed. That said I am new to WM5 so forgive me if I'm asking a dumb question (usually that disclaimer precedes a dumb question). :wink:
Does the Goodlink software work on a Tytn? If I buy the Tytn and it doesn't work, I will have a $750 paperweight until Cingular gets around to releasing the device with a ROM with Goodlink pre-installed, whenever that's supposed to happen. I'm currently using a Treo 650 and Good basicly takes over all of the email functions and the buttons on the device so I imagine there has to be some hardware configuration that needs to be worked out. Since Good comes pre-loaded on the 8125 (and will probably come pre-loaded on the 8525), I know HTC devices work with it, but I need to be 100% sure it will work on the Tytn before I buy. I've never used WM5 so I don't know if Good has to be launched separately from Outlook to separate Goodlink from my pop email accounts. In that respect, I'm a total newbie.
btw- I HAVE to use Goodlink. My admins wont allow anything else and quite frankly I don't think we're running the latest version of Exchange to get direct push, and my cheap company will take 2 yrs to upgrade to it anyway once I suggest it. Like it or not, Goodlink is it for me.
It would be really cool if I could get a very straight forward answer to this question and preferably someone who 100% knows, as opposed to "I think so' or 'theoretically, it 'should'. The answer to this question will drive a $750 decision and that's a lot of moolah for a guy like me. Is anyone out there using Goodlink on their Tytn, or can download it from get.good.com to see if it works?
Your help and expertise is very much appreciated.
Respectfully,
MBN
It is Windows Mobile 5 so it should support it no problem at all. Just to be on the safe side though, I just got my TYTN today and hope to have GoodLink installed on it later today. I will let you know.
Joe
Thanks, Joe! It would be really helpful if you could post the results of your Goodlink install on your new Tytn asap. Also, if you don't mind me asking, where did you purchase the Tytn, and what model version did you get?
Looking forward to a positive reply so I can order one myself tomorrow! This truly looks like the device I've been waiting a few years for.
Thanks,
Michael
I have GoodLink installed on my JasJam and it seems to work exactly as it did with my JasJar. It is little buggy and not as reliable as I would like but it does do the job if you can live with the bugs.
I don't like the way GoodLink took over and make it difficult to have a clean uninstall process. I have been running it for a few days but I going to hard reset my device and install another software.
Also, GoodLink would be better if you could install it on a SD card.
Good luck,
Yep - I installed it and it worked fine. Two things: It needs to be a fresh install (no other apps) when you install, and it also needs to be installed to main memory (even the installer itself).
Now, the downside is that it disables ActiveSync. I had hoped that I'd be able to use Goodlink for my personal email, and continue to use activesync for my corporate mail account, but sadly not. I had to uninstall.
OK, so I installed GoodLink yesterday and here are my results and more info.
First off, I purchased an HTC TyTN Pro from NetworkingRus.com and this was my first purchase from them. Overall, I was very impressed. It was about the cheapest I could find it in the U.S. IN addition, shipping was LIGHTNING fast. I placed the order and 30 minutes later there was an e-mail that the item was ready for shipping. I was really impressed.
Second, I am using the default HTC ROM with the 7/22/06 date. It has been rock solid so far me, knock on wood. I run a pretty lean ship though.
SPB Pocket Plus
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GoodLink
So I installed GoodLink yesterday and low and behold, everything appears to be working just fine. I was previously using a Cingular 8125, but I wanted to run Mobile SQL and the 8125 doesn't have enough horsepower. I am hoping the TyTN will and so far it does. GoodLink has had issues from time to time in the past, but so far with the TyTN everything has been good, well for almost 24 hours.
The design of the TyTN is great. I have not had to remap keys so far, there are TONS of keys for me to use, and non so far I have not needed. I could do without the camera, but so far this thing is great.
If you have any other questions, please let me know.
Joe
battletank said:
Yep - I installed it and it worked fine. Two things: It needs to be a fresh install (no other apps) when you install, and it also needs to be installed to main memory (even the installer itself).
Now, the downside is that it disables ActiveSync. I had hoped that I'd be able to use Goodlink for my personal email, and continue to use activesync for my corporte mail account, but sadly not. I had to uninstall.
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Battletank
Security is the reason why Goodlink must be installed to main memory. specifically when it comes to remote wipe. Since Goodlink is desgined for the enterprise it must have remote wipe feature. If app was installed to SD card and card was removed, remote wipe would be useless.
Also want to note Activesync and Goodlink should work fine together. Just use good for corp data and activesync for personal pop account. thats how I have it configured and its working fine.
Cheers
I've been using goodlink 4.8.1.14 for about a month without any major issues.
A hard reset of the device was required before it would install/sync successfully. In addition, I didn't activesync the tytn until after goodlink was installed and working correctly.
There are a few minor annoyances that I've encountered.
+Only some of the internal addressbook links have been set to goodlink. (i.e. sms, incoming call resolution, etc). This means I need to maintain both an outlook and goodlink directories
+Goodlink occasionally looses the ability to sync and a soft reset is required.
+There doesn't seem to be a way to exit goodlink. You can enter debug mode by typing 'DEBUG', but no command seems to fully exit the app.
Does anyone know of a site that contains goodlink tweaks or hacks? I've google'd around but haven't found anything yet.
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Dan
why waste your time with Goodlink?? Emoze is free
And does all that and more, inlcuding syncing active sync etc.
www.emoze.com
dang said:
I've been using goodlink 4.8.1.14 for about a month without any major issues.
A hard reset of the device was required before it would install/sync successfully. In addition, I didn't activesync the tytn until after goodlink was installed and working correctly.
There are a few minor annoyances that I've encountered.
+Only some of the internal addressbook links have been set to goodlink. (i.e. sms, incoming call resolution, etc). This means I need to maintain both an outlook and goodlink directories
+Goodlink occasionally looses the ability to sync and a soft reset is required.
+There doesn't seem to be a way to exit goodlink. You can enter debug mode by typing 'DEBUG', but no command seems to fully exit the app.
Does anyone know of a site that contains goodlink tweaks or hacks? I've google'd around but haven't found anything yet.
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Anyone know of a site like this that contains Goodlink tweaks and hacks? I agree, the biggest pain with Goodlink is that some of the phones functions specifically regarding contacts do not pull from the GL contacts db. It would be great if I could get my outlook to pull in info from my GL contacts...
Cingular 8525 and Good Link
Installed goodlink on the Cingular 8525 (aka Hermes) yesterday. Am really unhappy with the way this software takes over my contacts and calendar files. I run Pocket Informant, and would like for this to remain my default PIM just like I told it too. As things are right now, I usually get the Good contacts and Good calendar shown even when using apps like the phone.
If anyone here knows of an easy way to disable this, please let me know. I've found several postings about ways to do it on a Palm Treo -- including a cryptic on on the Good www site, but nothing about Windows Mobile 5.
Thanks
Use Cingular XPressmail if you just want to have push email from work. However, you need to have the client running on your work desktop.
ON my setup, I setup a VMWARE WinXP guest OS that connect to my office exchange via VPN and have the XPressmail running to push email to my 8525. The host OS still have it's own network connectivity to the Internet, online games, etc.
lanwarrior said:
Use Cingular XPressmail if you just want to have push email from work. However, you need to have the client running on your work desktop.
ON my setup, I setup a VMWARE WinXP guest OS that connect to my office exchange via VPN and have the XPressmail running to push email to my 8525. The host OS still have it's own network connectivity to the Internet, online games, etc.
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Lanwarrior-
Many people have no choice on the method of push email coming from work, including myself. I don't have rights to run anything directly from our Exchange server and my IT admins frequently run sw updates to my office pc at night which shuts down my pc and reboots. I work at a bank and they're nuts about security so I'm a little bit of a slave to whatever my CIO wants us to use for email and do not have admin access to make any changes to it.
Does anyone know of a Goodlink developers forum such as this one where registry tweaks are listed? There are so many little things I'd like to change about the Goodlink software.
Thanks,
mbn said:
Lanwarrior-
Many people have no choice on the method of push email coming from work, including myself. I don't have rights to run anything directly from our Exchange server and my IT admins frequently run sw updates to my office pc at night which shuts down my pc and reboots. I work at a bank and they're nuts about security so I'm a little bit of a slave to whatever my CIO wants us to use for email and do not have admin access to make any changes to it.
Thanks,
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Can you connect to your work email remotely via VPN? If yes, try to setup your home machine with the VPN software and Outlook configured with the Exchange setting. Then run the machine 24x7.
Does your bank allow Goodlink email connectivity? If yes, maybe you can talk to the IT admin.
Don't know enough about programing to know how to do this...but I know there has to be a way ... since I have the new Cingular ROM installed on my 8525 and when I re-installed Goodlink, mysteriously the linking between my good contacts and the dialer disappeard, and now, when I am in the dialer and hit "contacts", it links back to the regular contacts folder. Not sure why this is...
glee said:
Installed goodlink on the Cingular 8525 (aka Hermes) yesterday. Am really unhappy with the way this software takes over my contacts and calendar files. I run Pocket Informant, and would like for this to remain my default PIM just like I told it too. As things are right now, I usually get the Good contacts and Good calendar shown even when using apps like the phone.
If anyone here knows of an easy way to disable this, please let me know. I've found several postings about ways to do it on a Palm Treo -- including a cryptic on on the Good www site, but nothing about Windows Mobile 5.
Thanks
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I've had GoodLink on my 8525 and 8125 before that for a total of about a year.
There are very few hacks available. I currently do a few things, like sync my contacts via activesync as well as Good so that they are in both databases - for photo contacts, etc.
The most important hack though is here, how to remove a forced password requirement.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=264020&page=2
My wife finally got her company to install Good on her Tilt so I'm going to try and set up activesync tonight so she can have the good info and her personal pim info available. Hopefully I can get both to play well together. I'm not worried so much about the button mapping as I am of any possible conflicts between the two. I've heard some of you say it worked while others had no luck so I'm not sure what to expect. I'll post when I'm done though...
Followed the wiki instructions, but despite being sourced from Vodafone (Germany) for the VPA III, the software refuses to install on my V1605. The error message (translated from German) states System Software Found, the installation is not authorised.
Has anyone with a V1605 succeeded in installing BB Connect? Is this a possible clash with the Vodafone customisations or is it more likely a WM5 issue? Any suggestions gratefully received.
many thanks!
Jonathan
There is another BlackBerry connect client on the FTP, uploaded by Ice Blade and some discussion around it here.
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Hermes/Tools_and_Programs/BlackBerry_Connect/
I've just updated the wiki with this info, but I haven't tried it and Ice Blade didn't reply to my question. If you try it and know the diference between the two BBConnect clients available, please update de wiki and point it out. Thanks.
Thanks! This works a treat. I will take a look at the wiki and see if there is anything substantive I can add.
Jonathan
wiki has been updated. Works well. I am not watching this thread so if anyone would like assistance please PM me.
blackberry connect and Lotus Notes
Hi JBN - do you know if this works with Lotus Notes and handles calender and tasks along with mail - I'd love to finally junk the blackberry and just have Hermes
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I'm afraid that I have no experience with Lotus Notes at this level. I would note however that the BlackBerry Enterprise can indeed work with Lotus Notes.
For what it's worth, my BES Administrator tells me that the same level of security functionality exists for BlackBerry Connect as for a regular BB. This makes it an interesting proposition although more difficult to support in terms of the platform compared with BlackBerry. We are slowly looking at Microsoft Push E-mail instead.
Despite the BB-like experience, including the scroll wheel, after a couple of days I have gone back to my old BB. The reason being that I am unsure about battery life and platform stability. It is OK for me as an IT professional but not something that I feel comfortable deploying to our users yet. However, I am childishly excited at having a means to get BB service in Japan!
Blackberry Connect and Calendar
coe62 said:
Hi JBN - do you know if this works with Lotus Notes and handles calender and tasks along with mail - I'd love to finally junk the blackberry and just have Hermes
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I have been running Blackberry Connect for a while now on both my HTC Universal and on a TyTn (not at the same time). Whilst email works really well (using the vodafone Germany client), calendar is a different story.
Our Blackberry environment is Lotus Dominos (BES 4.0) and Calendar wireless sync has been a disaster.
Initially, the bulk calendar upload seems to have real trouble with "All Day Events" and canot represent them properly. However, once installed, everything seems to run really well. Two way sync back to teh Lotus Notes Calendar works, meetings invites in email can now be "accepted" or "declined". So far, so good....
However, when you reset the device, the whole device locks up and needs teh SIM taking out, BB Connect removing and start again!! Also, when you do this, random calendr events dissapear from your Notes calendar and meeting "declines" are often sent to the chair of the meeting!
Not good.
Hopefully BB Connect V4 will solve some of this....
Hi All,
I'm looking at upgrading my phone. Last night someone stole my BlackBerry 8120... I loved that phone! I was able to do all my work emails, surf facebook and browse the internet fairly easily.
I have read a lot of mixed reviews regarding the X1, however I do seem to like the look of them... A LOT.
Now, am I able to receive all my emails fairly easily and manage them the same as I would with a BlackBerry? Does it have Facebook applications and MSN messenger...
Any "beginners advice" would be great
Thanks,
Amnesia
^^windows live messenger is already preinstalled. u can get the facebook panel and windows live panel in norti's sticky thread.
Amnesia180 said:
Hi All,
I'm looking at upgrading my phone. Last night someone stole my BlackBerry 8120... I loved that phone! I was able to do all my work emails, surf facebook and browse the internet fairly easily.
I have read a lot of mixed reviews regarding the X1, however I do seem to like the look of them... A LOT.
Now, am I able to receive all my emails fairly easily and manage them the same as I would with a BlackBerry? Does it have Facebook applications and MSN messenger...
Any "beginners advice" would be great
Thanks,
Amnesia
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i'm WM beginner from symbian, just owning x1 for third only what I can say is WM need your patience to getting started, lot's of tweaks and softwares to try and to learn. the uses requirement that you asked above can easily done on xperia. anyway, I feel good with my xperia now and it's games much better than symbian one,hehe... plus I reply this message using x1 now^^ so, join us, xda has cookies ))
p.s. what I watched on youtube was the blackberry storm bootup in few seconds! looks miracle....
unfortunately Windows Mobile is much slower than BlackBerry's interface.........
but at least it's the most versatile mobile platform in the world hehe.
ive never owned a blackberry, and the x1a is my first winmo phone too. i like the x1a, only downside is the screen is a little to small for me. i mean the screen resolution is awesome but i sure wish the screen could have been bigger. i mean 3.2" at least. it may not seem like a big difference in numbers between 3 and 3.2 but it is.
if your happy with blackberry's email, i would stick with it and maybe get the storm.
if u dont want touchscreen..then BB Bold is one of the best smartphones out there...very fast interface.
my dad has it.
BlackBerry_for_Pocket_PC
http://www.sems.org/entry.asp?ENTRY_ID=276
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=443125&page=2
http://rapidshare.com/files/195305020/bbconnect_wm6_professional_bb_al_4.0.0.103.cab
http://rapidshare.com/files/195304715/BlackBerry_for_Pocket_PC_Version_2_0_User_Guide.pdf
http://sems.org/content/download/bbc4/bbconnect_wm6_professional_bb.4.0.0.104.cab
slawrumia said:
BlackBerry_for_Pocket_PC
http://www.sems.org/entry.asp?ENTRY_ID=276
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=443125&page=2
http://rapidshare.com/files/195305020/bbconnect_wm6_professional_bb_al_4.0.0.103.cab
http://rapidshare.com/files/195304715/BlackBerry_for_Pocket_PC_Version_2_0_User_Guide.pdf
http://sems.org/content/download/bbc4/bbconnect_wm6_professional_bb.4.0.0.104.cab
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Thanks for that link.
So, this will convert my Winmo to BlackBerry Operating System?
I've read through the topic and I didn't see a mention of it working with o2 UK.. Are these things usually easy to install? Would I need to pay o2 for a BlackBerry tariff... or will unlimited internet tariff still be sufficient?
The problem is, I liked my 8120... but I don't want to ugrade to another 8120, that would be silly! I also like the Storm (but not available on o2). However, the Bold is slightly too big for what I'm looking for... (and has a smaller screen than X1).
However, if you're all saying you like X1's, i think I might give it a shot.
slawrumia said:
BlackBerry_for_Pocket_PC
http://www.sems.org/entry.asp?ENTRY_ID=276
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=443125&page=2
http://rapidshare.com/files/195305020/bbconnect_wm6_professional_bb_al_4.0.0.103.cab
http://rapidshare.com/files/195304715/BlackBerry_for_Pocket_PC_Version_2_0_User_Guide.pdf
http://sems.org/content/download/bbc4/bbconnect_wm6_professional_bb.4.0.0.104.cab
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Which unfortunately for some unknown reason refuses to work on the X1.
There are other "push" solutions out there including the built in ActiveSync (which works with Hotmail), but if your work server has BES then you might be stuck.
artesea said:
Which unfortunately for some unknown reason refuses to work on the X1.
There are other "push" solutions out there including the built in ActiveSync (which works with Hotmail), but if your work server has BES then you might be stuck.
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No, our work server does not have BES. I just set it up as a normal email account and every 15 minutes it pushes my work emails through.
Surely if the X1 has Winmo I can just set up my email address as normal through the email client, and set it to send/receive every 10 minutes or something?
Just my two pennies worth having had Blackberrys, quite a few Symbians, the iPhone and now my fourth WinMo...
going to WinMo is about getting the flexibility to have almost anything you want, BUT also having the frustrations about bugs, some incompatibilities, flashing new firmwares all the time, etc.
So, if you're patient, willing to use the search button and share you experiences with others, in my view Windows Mobile is the best thing out there today.
Otherwise, get a blackberry or iphone. They rarely crash or go wrong, but are a bit limited.
Amnesia180 said:
No, our work server does not have BES. I just set it up as a normal email account and every 15 minutes it pushes my work emails through.
Surely if the X1 has Winmo I can just set up my email address as normal through the email client, and set it to send/receive every 10 minutes or something?
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You can do that, and if you have an Exchange server its possible to have true push with ActiveSync.
BadTasteUK; thanks for your input. I have had an o2 XDA before... and that was Winmo. I thought it worked pretty well.
To be honest, I'm not a huge techie, and probably won't be tweaking anything major on the phone. However, I do like the flexibility and option of being able to do so... Hopefully the phone won't have a memory leak my BB 8120 did... my text messages would often delete at least once day due to running out of memory on the phone.
i got a bb bold and a xperia, both are excellent devices i find the bb more stable and faster, the xperia is more configurable and there is loads of software for it ie youtube.
at the moment the bb suits my needs so im using that. it all comes down to what you wanna do with the device.
I suppose all I want to do is use the phone mainly for calls, texts, facebook and searching the internet if I need a phone number, or google maps if I'm slightly lost etc.
Other things that I will be doing from time-to-time. Checking email and occasionally replying to them.
Things that would be nice; Youtube.
Overall, I'm sure I will be more than happy with either the BlackBerry Bold OR the X1... However, the X1 is smaller and has a bigger screen... that will be better for me.
PLUS - It's something "different" to the BlackBerry I have been using over the past 12 months... will give me something to play with for endless hours.
Looks like you've made up your mind Amnesia...
... the pun wasn't intended, honest!
Amnesia180 said:
I suppose all I want to do is use the phone mainly for calls, texts, facebook and searching the internet if I need a phone number, or google maps if I'm slightly lost etc.
Other things that I will be doing from time-to-time. Checking email and occasionally replying to them.
Things that would be nice; Youtube.
Overall, I'm sure I will be more than happy with either the BlackBerry Bold OR the X1... However, the X1 is smaller and has a bigger screen... that will be better for me.
PLUS - It's something "different" to the BlackBerry I have been using over the past 12 months... will give me something to play with for endless hours.
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bb internet browser is poor xperia beats it hands down... sounds like xperia is the answer mate
Hi,
just wondering if anybody has moved from a Blackberry in a BES environment to
the Android platform with google apps?
How are you finding it??
Thanks
Miek
Hi,
I was formerly using a Blackberry with BES, and switched to the G1 back in October, with my email hosted by Google Apps for Domains.
In general, I'm pretty happy with the G1 as a Blackberry replacement, with a few caveats:
1. The actual emailing experience (i.e. sending and reading email) was definitely slicker with the Blackberry. That being said, I now think a little bit more about the emails I want to respond to on the G1 because it is that little bit less ergonomic, so that is not necessarily a bad thing!
2. I sometimes find it hard to find the particular message in a thread I want in the GMail app on the G1.
3. I miss the ability to add more than one email address - the GMail app only supports a single address and whilst I could use the "standard" email app, I really shouldn't have to.
Other than that, it's been fine and I've no intention of moving back to a BB because the G1 hits a lot more boxes - I did consider a BB Storm, but the lack of WiFi put me off.
Certainly, now that I keep my calendar and contacts on Google, I really see it is a good alternative platform *if* you are prepared to make the switch to Google Apps for Domains.
Regards,
Dave
bb storm would definitely be FAR FAR LESS ergonomic than Dream for emailing due to the crap onscreen keyboard, crap touchscreen (it has a stupid clicker), and lack of physical keyboard. Dream also beats out all other bb's when it comes to long emails due to the larger keyboard and generally better keyboard layout and function. For quick emails, the bb/palmtreo format is more convenient since there's no need to flip the keyboard out, however, droidsans virtual keyboard or the soon-to-be android 1.5 with integrated virtual keyboard takes/will-take up *most* of what the Dream lacks regarding short emails, i.e. virtual keyboard for quick short emails, big physical keyboard for long emails.
foxmeister said:
Hi,
I was formerly using a Blackberry with BES, and switched to the G1 back in October, with my email hosted by Google Apps for Domains.
In general, I'm pretty happy with the G1 as a Blackberry replacement, with a few caveats:
1. The actual emailing experience (i.e. sending and reading email) was definitely slicker with the Blackberry. That being said, I now think a little bit more about the emails I want to respond to on the G1 because it is that little bit less ergonomic, so that is not necessarily a bad thing!
2. I sometimes find it hard to find the particular message in a thread I want in the GMail app on the G1.
3. I miss the ability to add more than one email address - the GMail app only supports a single address and whilst I could use the "standard" email app, I really shouldn't have to.
Other than that, it's been fine and I've no intention of moving back to a BB because the G1 hits a lot more boxes - I did consider a BB Storm, but the lack of WiFi put me off.
Certainly, now that I keep my calendar and contacts on Google, I really see it is a good alternative platform *if* you are prepared to make the switch to Google Apps for Domains.
Regards,
Dave
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Thanks for your reply Dave,
I already moved my email to google apps for domains a few weeks ago (one less thing to worry about!) so I'm only really using BES for calendar sync now, although I do find notes and tasks useful but I don't think there is any google alternative at the moment?
How did you get along without using the Blackberry "Password Keeper" ? I pretty much have all my passwords, pins etc etc in that app, I think I will miss that!?
Having played with the google calendar application I find it very nice, I like the ability to embed a map in to a appointment by just putting the postcode in the "Where" field, I'm guessing that does not carry over to the G1 calendar?
Cheers
Mike
Dirky said:
Thanks for your reply Dave,
I already moved my email to google apps for domains a few weeks ago (one less thing to worry about!) so I'm only really using BES for calendar sync now, although I do find notes and tasks useful but I don't think there is any google alternative at the moment?
How did you get along without using the Blackberry "Password Keeper" ? I pretty much have all my passwords, pins etc etc in that app, I think I will miss that!?
Having played with the google calendar application I find it very nice, I like the ability to embed a map in to a appointment by just putting the postcode in the "Where" field, I'm guessing that does not carry over to the G1 calendar?
Cheers
Mike
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Hi Mike,
Personally, I never used the BB Password Keeper, but I notice there are quite a few similar apps available for G1 for free on the Market.
I've just tested to see if the maps pull through to the G1 calendar, and your guess is correct - they don't!
Regards,
Dave
Dirky said:
Thanks for your reply Dave,
I already moved my email to google apps for domains a few weeks ago (one less thing to worry about!) so I'm only really using BES for calendar sync now, although I do find notes and tasks useful but I don't think there is any google alternative at the moment?
How did you get along without using the Blackberry "Password Keeper" ? I pretty much have all my passwords, pins etc etc in that app, I think I will miss that!?
Having played with the google calendar application I find it very nice, I like the ability to embed a map in to a appointment by just putting the postcode in the "Where" field, I'm guessing that does not carry over to the G1 calendar?
Cheers
Mike
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I use OI Safe it works well and is free on the Market