Dear wizard owners - could you please check how this call recording software works on your device.
http://1800message.com/default.aspx
in the end of that page there is a link for PMRecorder - there is cab file for it.
1) is it working in general?
2) does it record two parties well if used without headset?
3) does it record two parties if bluetooth headset is used?
4) what is quality of recording.
I am thinking to moving from jam to wizard or prophet only becouse of that software.
gluhov: if you're prepared to move phones for this feature, consider the gigabyte phones.
V
please give a link for that phone
gluhov said:
Dear wizard owners - could you please check how this call recording software works on your device.
http://1800message.com/default.aspx
in the end of that page there is a link for PMRecorder - there is cab file for it.
1) is it working in general?
2) does it record two parties well if used without headset?
3) does it record two parties if bluetooth headset is used?
4) what is quality of recording.
I am thinking to moving from jam to wizard or prophet only becouse of that software.
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PMRecorder does work well however you have to have all your conversations in speakerphone mode to pickup the person talking on the other end. The website says this is a limitation by the manufacturer (although not sure if the mean the HTC's, MS or the OEMs)
Cheers
Excellent review of the GigaByte:
http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/articles.php?action=expand,46925
Not sure if it's available yet, but I wants it!
V
WOW!!
I wants it too - I'm beginning to think the Wiz is a bit of a dead loss anyway
You can't beat an old 6310i as a phone
The Gigabyte phone has got all the functions that the Wiz is missing - and look at that camera !!!
Offtopic:
And the TV I think I'll wait for one as well. I need to upgrade in the next few months. I'm thinking either Atom or Gigabyte. But the Giga looks very very nice software wise. Don't like the styling much.. but the features Would be nice to get a rom dump of that. Oh, I think I've got one somewhere...
V
gluhov: If you are considering the gigabyte for the call recording, on reading the review it looks like it may have the same functionality as PMRecorder. As it says "you can record your own telephone conversations", I would clarification of what is meant by "your own conversations" To me this sounds like one sided recording, although i presume the speaker method would work here as well.
However it is a nicely feature packed device, i wouldnt mind getting my hands on one myself although i think i have gotten used to the Wizards keyboard and (slowish) speed now. I just want my A2DP!!!
Cheers
The recorder in the 'notes' application will happily record both sides as well - the other side will be a bit noisier/fainter, but unless you're recording for criminal evidence, that shouldn't be a problem. ( And keep in mind that many countries have laws prohibiting conversation recording unless you make this explicitly clear to the other side )
As for the Gigabyte - looks nice, specs-wise. However - no Edge? So definitely no UMTS/HSDPA. Not a huge loss, perhaps, but if you're aiming for the future anyway, it might be worth waiting for whatever they'll come out with next?
Guys - lets stop talking about these gygobyte.
PLEASE TEST THAT APLICATION AND ANSWER MY QUESTION - that will really help.
vijay555 said:
Offtopic:
And the TV I think I'll wait for one as well. I need to upgrade in the next few months. I'm thinking either Atom or Gigabyte. But the Giga looks very very nice software wise. Don't like the styling much.. but the features Would be nice to get a rom dump of that. Oh, I think I've got one somewhere...
V
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Gigabyte (Around US$700)and Atom (US$750) already for sales in Hong Kong for a while.
The REAL device of gigabyte is suck I'm sorry to tell you that.
The TV function ONLY support NTSC and which doesn't support PAL as they have mention. And the screen is too small. And there is serveral problem awaiting to fix.
1. Bluetooth A2DP issue. Auto disconnect once the device screen is off.
2. If incoming call pop up, if your didn't recived the call. The "incoming call" screen still there, even the other side already drop the line.
3. When open the function inside the phone. the device Vol will auto turn to silent. even no vibrate.
4.The camera is RED. Outdoor/ Indoor. All photo seems auto in RED tune.
New rom been release in Early Feb. But same problem still found.
And Atom is keep fixing their probelm. They are like haven't more than
one updat per month. And the device now is very smooth today. But I think there must be more update coming very soon.
gluhov said:
Dear wizard owners - could you please check how this call recording software works on your device.
http://1800message.com/default.aspx
in the end of that page there is a link for PMRecorder - there is cab file for it.
1) is it working in general?
2) does it record two parties well if used without headset?
3) does it record two parties if bluetooth headset is used?
4) what is quality of recording.
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Please read http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=513&more=1 for a complete discussion of the subject.
of course i read it.
i just need an answer from real user
it doesn't record incoming audio. you'd have to get a htc typhoon(i think) smartphone device to do this.
Are you tru wizrd owner?
Doesn't work on my Wizard (Vario)
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Are you tru wizrd owner?
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Yes I am. I actually e-mailed the company about this awhile back and heres what they told me.
"Techsupport to me 12/27/05
The Wizard does not support the dual audio path. the HTC Tornado and Cingular 2125 both support it, but the PPC Wizard does not. Sorry about that. It is a hardware limitation on the device.
> i've been playing around with pmvault and pm recorder on an htc wizard
> phone. Vault works flawlessly and is so convenient. Recorder doesn't
> record incoming audio though. My voice can be heard fine, but not the
> person I'm talking to. I know that the wizard devices are pocket pcs and
> not smartphones, but WM5 for ppc is supposed to run programs for both. Any
> thoughts on it?"
hmm.
if you use speacker phohe - will it help to record second part or not?
Becouse on magician if you use it everything is recorded very well.
Nope, it just records my voice. The other's voice is very faint audible when set to speaker mode, but certainly not loud en clear enough to understand.
I have a Wizard and use PMRecorder. Although the other party is faint on a recording it is possible to hear and understand them.
Related
Can someone please help. I have a new XDA II purchased a couple of weeks ago. I want to add voice dial so that I can record a voice tag to a specific contact, press a button on my bluetooth headset and the XDA II phone will dial that person for me.
Can some kind person please guide me exactly how to go about setting this up?
JSS
You can't record voice tag unfortunatelly... Microsoft sells Microsoft Voice command for
pocket pc for 30$.. you don't need to train it or record voice tag.. it just recognize what
you say. it isn't bad
you can grab it from www.suprnova.com in the App/pocket pc section (you will need a bittorrent client, ABC http://pingpong-abc.sourceforge.net).
You can use Neuvoice: http://www.neuvoice.com/xdasoftware.php
Allows you to record your own commands. I had problems with some English programs to recognize Dutch names in my contacts.
Neuvoice has to be trained, and this takes some time, but works perfect with foreign languages.
i use vito voice dialer
works great you record your voice tags then if you have button plus installed i have mine lined to the contacts button if i hold it down it will say please say name so you say the voicetag and itll begin to dial works very well
I tried MS voicecommand, and i was not impressed. The thing about "not training" is that it will recognise only the obvious. Also, it was very bad, to pathetic, in recognising things with the earphones on. Add to that noise when driving, it was impossible.
I found the fonix voicedial was very good. I downloaded a trial (gave me a few eeeks to use it, now theres a sensible trial period!), and it was very good.
I havent used vito, maybe give it a go.
fonix is very good fun to play with but it likes to call my dad most of the time lol im like mum....
dial dad
does your head in lol
Vito is the best one ive tried
but fonix is very fun to play with lol
I am french and i need to 'train tag'.
I use neu voice navigator.
For 9,99$, the voice recognition works very well, indoor, outdoor with wind and driving in the car.
Voice dial for XDA II
Thanks to all of you so far. I went to the Vito site and read that it does not work for XDA II.
""IMPORTANT! Doesn't work on MDAII/XDAII
VITO VoiceDialer PE is not currently supported by XDAII/MDAII. When recording a voice tag it brings up an error "Cannot process this file" Our development team is working on the solution. We apologize for the inconvenience. ""
Hopefully this can be fixed soon. I will try some other sites
JSS
I've tried Fonix and MS Voice Command on XDAII and in my view MS Voice Command is the best. Contrary to one of the posts above I've found it very accurate especially after learning how to speak to it after the first couple of days. It works well with the wired earpiece but will not work with a bluetooth headset as it takes its input only from the microphone. As such it is a viable hands free solution and you dont need to train it so if you add a new contact then it is automatically recognised. Beware that the current US version doesnt support dialling of UK phone numbers ie you cannot say 'dial 0113 205 3345' as it will only accept 7 and 10 digit numbers that do not begin with a zero.
I tried MS Voice Command and I must concur with others opinions. Because you cannot train it to learn your voice, it means that you must learn to speak the way it wants you to speak. Fair enough, but the 24-hour trial period is too short. After 24 hours, I could not get it to perform to my satisfaction. Perhaps with a longer trial period I might have learned how to use it.
That is why I am not buying it.
I've tried MS Voice command, and found that unless you want to speak with an American accent then don't bother.
I've also just tried Neuvoice, which works with tags that you assign, and that seems to work extremely well. Now if only one of them could work with a Bluetooth headset! But I guess that's a the fault of the XDA's bluetooth implementation, rather than any of the software.
I purchased MS Voice command (use on my XD2) and as everyone has said it is no good unless you use an american accent...only problem is that I keep talking like an American now :roll: LOL
Thanks - Sunny.
""I've also just tried Neuvoice, which works with tags that you assign, and that seems to work extremely well. Now if only one of them could work with a Bluetooth headset! But I guess that's a the fault of the XDA's bluetooth implementation, rather than any of the software.""
Thanks again. Of course, if it does not work with a bluetooth headset, there really is not much point having it until it does, because the whole idea is to make voice dial calls that are completely 'hands fee'.
I spoke with O2 Mobile Internet support team who tell me that the software will soon have an update (bugfix) which will apparently fix this problem and allow the XDA II to work for voice dial. Does anyone know what this is, when is it coming and how will we be able to get it and put it onto our XDA???
JSS
XDA II update
latest information from O2 is quoting Spring 2004.................
.....................so that'll be 2005 then!
ian
I suppose we will have to rely on the brains of the wonderful people on this forum who will surely come up with a way around the problems.
There must be some way through it. All ideas are welcome
JSS
Bougth a second hand P800 this week to compare with the XDA II.
I must say that the P800 is much more advanced on the phone point. It may be not as performant, but the thing works quite nicely. Voice control works perfect, also with BT headset.
And controlling and operating the phone is much easier thanks to the jog dial. I also like the better implemantation of the phone settings and options. Don't understand why this isn't implemented on more devices.
Think MS still has a long way to go with Pocket PC Phone Edition to reach at least the same phone functionality...
@ Jos
do you know why that is?
its because the p800 is a symbian phone with PDA features
the XDA is a PDA with mobile features
theres the difference
and p800 camera is ****e lol
Hi all!
I Just changed from a P800, and fully agree with gazzaman2k and Jos, P800 is a "so-so good" phone, but a very POOR PDA.
XDAII is a fully functional PDA, but the phone parts leaves so much to be desired......
Any way, I still would be using my P800, should I have been able to fix the SYNC problem.... A phone PDA UNABLE to sync with with your PC is a useless combo. Not to mention the full distress recoveries I had to do with my Outlook contact and agenda files.....
I ended up recovering my old T68 phone, (I need it for the BT carkit) I passed my Cassiopeia EM505 to a friend, my wife got my P800 (unable to sell it on e-bay) and I'm so-so satisfied with my XDA.
Until:
1.- it gets the handsfree BT issue solved (car kit usage)
2.- The Voice command functions are fully implemented (BT headset too)
3.- The phone functions are VERY MUCH IMPROVED (one hand use)
I would NOT consider the XDAII a "PHONE-PDA", but a "PDA-phone". (Capitals being removed intentionally)
BTW, most of the "Voice/dial command" programs I tried are useless and/or unreliable.
but also :x
Indeed, I agree the XDA II is a PDA-PHONE and the P800 a PHONE-PDA.
Would be nice to see an OS that would run on the fast hardware of the XDA II with all the plusses of Pocket PC and Symbian...
And the P800 is for my girlfriend. She needed a new phone and I could get this one for a fair price. Plus it gives me the chance to play around with both en see the pros and cons of both.
For performance and Outlook sync, I prefer the XDA II, but for phone funcionality I prefer the P800...
Voice diaing continued...
The XDA II is a quality PDA with phone functions. Since, I understand, other PDA's (even those without built in phones) are able to have voice dial functions for add-on phones, it seems to me that the XDA II could easily also have these functions. I think that it would just mean getting the right software. How and where from I would like to know?
It may be possible to improve the phone functions, but the single one thing that would improve the XDA II for me is the addition of voice dialing via bluetooth - so that you can record a tag to a contact, press a button on the earpiece, say the contact name and then the number is dialed. That handsfree capability would be a very good start - and let's face it, with driving restrictions etc, these days, it really is essential if the XDA II is ever going to be of any value as a mobile phone.
What I need to know for certain is:-
1.Is there a software that will allow me to have this function.
JSS
Anyone figure this out yet?
I have tried all of the suggestions on here and none work??
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Anyone figure this out yet?
I have tried all of the suggestions on here and none work??
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Hi there,
I'm not sure if i'm right, but i've read that the Himalaya (XDA2) can't record voice from phone calls.
Actually there is a way to record them, but you need to activate the speakerphone. The built-in mike will be able to pickup the sounds coming from the speakers, hence the two-way recording of voice calls. :wink:
Regards,
AcidSlide
Yes that's how it works for the Magician too.
But you don't have to put the speakerphone on.
You may also want to read http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=513&more=1 on this subject - it gives a nice overview of what you can expect from PPC PE devices and what applications there're to (even automatically) record phone calls.
I have a working piece of soft:
[edit] Funny, their sire reads:
http://1800message.com/
CONFIDENTIAL, NOT FOR PUBLIC DISPLAY. DEMO SITE ONLY.
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http://1800message.com/SPWM5CallRec.cab
http://king-bg.info/Temp/c500/soft/SPWM5CallRec.cab
It works, I have this to say:
1. I placed a shortcut to it in my STARTUP so it starts upon bootup, do you have any idea how I can make it start MINIMIZED?
2. As with all similar programs, the other party sound is with lower volume, but still can hear it
3. Records are in some internal format and can be played only with this program
Other the that I like it and it can be useful to you
Also note that in your country it may be illegal to record the conversations.
I use it mainly when someone call me with directions to some place ot phone numbers and so..
Something seems kinda fishy here, I highly doubt a company would post anything "highly confidential" and "not for public display" on PUBLIC INTERNET. Anyone else try this program? Seems like it could contain some malware/virus etc..
MilanoRex said:
Something seems kinda fishy here, I highly doubt a company would post anything "highly confidential" and "not for public display" on PUBLIC INTERNET. Anyone else try this program? Seems like it could contain some malware/virus etc..
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I don't know what it is but it works on my PPC
do a google and it will pop-up on several other forums.
Well sounds fishy for me too...
Anyone else tried it?
this program only works if you have your speaker loud enough for your microphone to pick up the sound from it. I talked to their tech support last month and it went something like this.
> i've been playing around with pmvault and pm recorder on an htc wizard
> phone. Vault works flawlessly and is so convenient. Recorder doesn't
> record incoming audio though. My voice can be heard fine, but not the
> person I'm talking to. I know that the wizard devices are pocket pcs and
> not smartphones, but WM5 for ppc is supposed to run programs for both. Any
> thoughts on it?
>
The Wizard does not support the dual audio path. the HTC Tornado and Cingular 2125 both support it, but the PPC Wizard does not. Sorry about that. It is a hardware limitation on the device.
as already has been said,
the wizard will only record the audio picked up by the microphone,
if the speaker is loud enough the sound is picked up.
You may also want to read http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=513&more=1 on this subject - it gives a nice overview of what you can expect from PPC PE devices and what applications there're to (even automatically) record phone calls.
from my understanding it must be possible to access the incoming GSM audio stream - somehow it must be handed over to the CE-side, as the bluetooth driver also gets that stream - or did I get it wrong??? *confused*
Mamaich says that the GSM audio is wired directly into the bluetooth hardware.
V
vijay555 said:
Mamaich says that the GSM audio is wired directly into the bluetooth hardware.
V
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so does that mean it is also not possible to record a phone call if you are using a BT headset?
Or a little bluetooth device that does the recording? ...
Check Here
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-isecretary-v1-1.html
Hi,
here is the new Version 2.3
wfg
Starbase64
Won't work on a lot of devices. Can't record directly from the radio.
what devices does this work with? does the answerphone work silently by intercepting the audio stream of the call. I though this couldn't be done.
If it can be done. How!! Could have lots of fun with this feature
Has anybody testet this on a TyTn II ?
this software ask me for the netCF.. where can i get NetCF?
Tried the newest version 3 on Trinity and it does not work. It cannot play the outgoing message. I hope they can get this working on Trinity.
Not workin'
It's not workin' on my Universal WM5, i unzipped the folder, double-clicked on .exe file, nothin' happens.
After some testing I can say its working fine on my Hermes.
Recording quality is pretty good and it's customizable.
The call being receveid and recorded can be heard trough inner or outer speaker of the pda.
The pda microphone is switched off excepting for the first seconds while your message is played back to the caller.
I'm using iSecretary 3.0... you can find it here.
N1kko said:
After some testing I can say its working fine on my Hermes.
Recording quality is pretty good and it's customizable.
The call being receveid and recorded can be heard trough inner or outer speaker of the pda.
The pda microphone is switched off excepting for the first seconds while your message is played back to the caller.
I'm using iSecretary 3.0... you can find it here.
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You mean that you can still record with good quality even when not in speakerphone mode, i.e. the software doesn't depend on the microphone picking up the call from the loudspeaker? If that's the case then the developer deserves the Nobel Price! Up until now everyone(?) have thought that this was impossible due to hardware limitations in the Hermes and almost all other PPC phones from HTC.
N1kko said:
After some testing I can say its working fine on my Hermes.
Recording quality is pretty good and it's customizable.
The call being receveid and recorded can be heard trough inner or outer speaker of the pda.
The pda microphone is switched off excepting for the first seconds while your message is played back to the caller.
I'm using iSecretary 3.0... you can find it here.
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I downloaded the version 3 as well, installed the cab. I don't know why the f**k, it ain't workin' on my Universal WM5, even though it mentions clearly in this website, that it's compatible with WM5.
Any suggestions ?
P.S what is Compact FrameWork v2 mentioned on that website ? Is that .NET Framework, anyone with the link ?
Agreed..
abubasim said:
You mean that you can still record with good quality even when not in speakerphone mode, i.e. the software doesn't depend on the microphone picking up the call from the loudspeaker? If that's the case then the developer deserves the Nobel Price! Up until now everyone(?) have thought that this was impossible due to hardware limitations in the Hermes and almost all other PPC phones from HTC.
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I truly agree on that, that is why i really wanna try this application. B'cuz, as far as we know, the hardware of WM phones ain't compatible to record sounds from microphone. Same is the case with Call Recorder.
got it running on the herald without issues.....nice app although I still wish I could get the Answering Machine from the stealth....but like someone said before I thought this could not be done with HTC devices so I'm happy anyway
Does it do as I suspect and just put the call audio to the speakerphone and then record that via the microphone?
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Does it do as I suspect and just put the call audio to the speakerphone and then record that via the microphone?
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yeah, absolutely pal. It's like the answerin' machine in symbian phones. The only difference is that, speakerphone is a compulsion(or a limitation) here, b'cuz of hardware incompatibility.
Adieu..
Hrrrm - thought so.... DO NOT WANT.
WOW is work on my HTC Touch!!! I'm using iSecretary 3.0 is wayyy better then the old vers.........
if they make play message easy i will buy right away!!
I couldnt get iSecretary to work on my Kaiser (Tytn II) i mean it would run but when people would call in they could not hear the voice message.
4.4 wont work on my jasjar
Why I Secretary can’t mute the microphone of my xperia x1 and why the caller can’t hear my answer message
How can I fix this using registry or any tweak tool for windows mobile 6.1
thanks
Hi!
I got a T-Mobile Ameo (x7500) and upgraded it to Win Mobile 6 with success.
I am having trouble with call recording when not being in speakerphone mode. I studied the postings about this topic, but actually it said "Athena can do this without modification".
I used Resco Audio Recorder and Vito Technology's Audio Notes and some other tools. These two programs, well were able to record but the other side was much too silent to comprehend.
I tried it with my Jabra Bluetooth headset and my HTC cable headset. There seems to be no difference to me.
Has any of you guys'n'girls the ICR on his phone, with better experience? Please tell me ;-)
CU, forcemaker
Really nobody of Athena/Advantage/Ameo folks using in call recording?
Hi there,
is eally nobody of Athena/Advantage/Ameo folks using in call recording?
Are there no success or even failure reports that you want to share?
Greetings from forcemaker
All these years have passed ... ;-) ... and no solution is found yet?
The user Menneisyys explains here (and linked pages) that the Athena was the only phone of its "generation" being able to do 2-way-call-recording (or ICR=In-call-recording). Then many phones were enabled with this feature by applying a simple registry hack.
But my Ameo (X7500, upgraded from Stock Wm5 to Stock WM6 ROM, german, by T-Mobile) was never able to do so. Today, for the first time, I chose to install other ROMs (Advantage_HTC_GER_2.21.407.1_1.50.00.00_Ship.exe, Advantage_HTC_WWE_2.21.405.2_1.50.00.00_Ship.exe) and different radio versions (1.5..... and 1.58....) without any change in the behaviour.
So, do you Athena owners have experience with 2-sided/way-call-recording?
Please share with me and us, as I am fed up with HTC devices "blocking" this function ... e.g. with my somewhat beloved HTC Desire (A8181, "Bravo"), where this story repeats itself.
Which ROM versions are you using, if ICR works for you?
edit 1: Oh, I forgot: I tried Resco Audio Recorder and also the solution from VITO and many others.
I am sorry for bothering you, but at this moment there are "1,082" views of this thread (some likely to be from me) ... but I cannot imagine that nobody is using any call recording function on his/her Ameo/Advantage/Athena of which you could give us (or me) a small report (Works/Doesn't work on ROM version XYZ with Recording software ABC) ?
Again sorry for bothering :-(
I think the activity has died down on this device, especially with the hacking community (which this site is mainly about) anyway.
I don't even know that this feature exists until I read this thread now. I have never used it much as a phone (battery life too short) myself, and probably most people use it as a data device mostly and thus the feature is largely missed by many.
I will check out your link to see what the deal is about in call recording as many phones won't do it, but a few will (not just smartphones), I think it has to do with legal ramification similar to there is no reason to block turning off the shutter sound on a phone camera, but they do it to discourage the perverts.