I'm in a dilemna - I'm a very happy Magician user but want more inbuilt memory and mobile 5.
Not interested in a keyboard and had been long awaiting the prophet.
But then I see the Mitac A701 - doesn't have wifi but seems to have everything else (including GPS).
Can anyone offer any advice on which I should go for ?!
Thanks
Hi, I am currently using both at the moment and to be honest its really a hard decesion but you need to weigh it out...if its gps and you drive then this is the one for you...other wise I think the prophet still tickles my fancy.
Yea the A701 doesn't look as nice as the Dopod 818 Pro...
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Hi All,
I appreciate all your help with this. I currently own a Magician and love the size factor of the Atom. Is everyone happy with their Atom and would you recommend getting one. I know the new ROM upgrade makes a huge difference in performance speed and such. Also, I read somewhere that the Atom does not have a button lock so you can only have the power on button work(have it in your pocket and not accidentally dial out, that sort of thing) Is this so, and if so has the new Rom upgrades added this feature or is there a way around it.
Thanks so much in advance.
Todd
I also forgot to ask: I have just downloaded the new Windows Vista and there is no longer activesync but a new program. Has anyone had any experience with Vista and will their Atom still sync?
Update the Vista using windows update and you will get the mobile sync function. Does not use activesync anymore. Read this info somewhere here :roll:
You might want to reconsider the Atom. Consider a Prophet or Wizard
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=40441
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=38148
hanmin said:
You might want to reconsider the Atom. Consider a Prophet or Wizard
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Hmm...Why?!Are you used all this devices?I sure that you does not... :wink: Atom better,faster and more usefull (but also more expensive) than both Prophet and wizard.
If you like atom go and get one (or HP 6828 if you like it more),one device that may be better (if you realy need keyboard) and can also be considered its new 9600 (Hermes) - also great device,by far better than 9100 (wizard)
Well the Atom Exec release date is 4th July and it will be retailing for a price of $1130 and that include Bluetooth headset and IR keyboard. so your problem might well be solved, if you dont mind a matte grey case and dont mind paying an extra $280 over the HP then the Exec could be your bet.
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hanmin said:
You might want to reconsider the Atom. Consider a Prophet or Wizard
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Hmm...Why?!Are you used all this devices?I sure that you does not... :wink: Atom better,faster and more usefull (but also more expensive) than both Prophet and wizard.
If you like atom go and get one (or HP 6828 if you like it more),one device that may be better (if you realy need keyboard) and can also be considered its new 9600 (Hermes) - also great device,by far better than 9100 (wizard)
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I have used the K-Jam and the JAmin (Prophet and wizard) and currently having the Atom, can not compare, it is a lot better, faster, and more stable and has got more features. I rarly soft reset it.
I will hold on to it for a while
Atom
Thanks all for your advice,
I did buy the Atom and love it. Far superior to my old Magaician. Its love again!
Todd
Like Todd, I'm looking to upgrade my magician, I was looking at the Hermes, but I don't really want a real keyboard, but the Hermes looked to have all the right functions. Having look around, and getting confused by other brand names this is what I have concluded.
The prophet is the same as the wizard but without a keyboard, so hopefully the Atom is the same as the Hermes but also without a keyboard. I can't find any reviews to confirm my hunch so I hope someone can answer my question or tell me where I can look.
All I want is WM5, built in wifi, and fast (400 Mhz +) processor.
Does Atom have a jog dial like the Hermes?
What type of memory card.
Thanks in advance
fingers88,
the atom is its own brand (not htc) I have had it for over a month now and it rocks. kicks butt on the magician. it
is mini sd and no jog but it is not missed, buy it, you will be glad you did.
Todd
Iam an atom user... have been for 1 month...
and I have fallen in love with it...
it's my mobile buddy... a welcome upgrade from my xda2 since I divorced the love relationship, because it was too damn huge!
I recently dropped it from 5 ft to a stone tiled hotel bathroom and it survived 100%... just like my xda2 has done...
also a great thing about the atom is it hasa notch/hook on the top left corner for a lanyard... it is an ideal size for a lanyard too.
i've some major scratchesonthe plastic... but idont care about them... the screen is finewith a protector.
G
Are you happy with the switch?
Is it really too large to place by the ear?
I was thinking of getting a Universal early next year.
How is the speed of the unit, e.g. reading large PDFs, or opening big DOC files in Word?
How is quality of the LCD screen, speakers, keyboard vs Blueangel?
BA v Uni
Definitely a better system than the Blue Angel. The OS is much better, the screen larger, the processor better, a thumb keyboard you can actually use. My old Blue Angel is now my TomTom GPS.
The Universal's replacement will be out early (Possibly Q1) next year. Might be better to wait for that.
Back on topic. I sometimes get a little peed at having to flip the screen to see who's calling, but on the whole I'm glad I upgraded.
dont bother mate,just look on the baord at the amount of issues
overall, universal is more than ok!
i still have my BA and use it as a backup, i use my o2 xda exec for everything else like my gps and etc.
have you tried wm5 on BA ?
try the Helmi aku3.2 wm5 Rom with (i think it was) 16mb page file
BA then really flies (20x faster than universal)
I was really amazed !!
currently I now have jasjar with IvanRom 1.14 and BA with "helmi aku3.2 wm5 rom
but BA is still a lot faster
(for me the keyboard is the only reason why I use universal daily)
greetz,
hi guys. need some help!! time to upgrade frm mda vario. looking at 3600 aka orange m700 and 3300 aka tmobile compact 3/ o2 orbit. if we leave out the 3g function of the 3600 which would you choose. if the advice is 3300 would it be tmobile without wifi or o2 orbit, although tmobile web and walk tariffs are good. please heeelp. thanks in advance.
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hi guys. need some help!! time to upgrade frm mda vario. looking at 3600 aka orange m700 and 3300 aka tmobile compact 3/ o2 orbit. if we leave out the 3g function of the 3600 which would you choose. if the advice is 3300 would it be tmobile without wifi or o2 orbit, although tmobile web and walk tariffs are good. please heeelp. thanks in advance.
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There are only 2 reasons that I can think of to choose the P3300 over the P3600...The P3300 has a wheel thingy and a roller ball in the middle, that would be personal choice, but I like the Dpad better. The P3300 has a slower processor so the battery lasts a bit longer, however if you limit the connection on the P3600 to Edge then it saves battery life. Otherwise, they are almost the same size. Why anyone would buy a P3300 now that the P3600 has GPS is a mystery to me.
Or hold off until June for the P4550
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Or hold off until June for the P4550
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True. I just checked the specs again on the P4550.
Some things I liked:
USB 2.0 (finally not nec. to take out the card for file transfer)
Autofocus Camera
Slide out keyboard with a case the size of a Trinity
Increased ROM to 256mg (supposedly)
WM6
Things I didn't like:
Micro SD (this is a big negative unless 4gb microSD cards become available)
Matterhorn said:
There are only 2 reasons that I can think of to choose the P3300 over the P3600...The P3300 has a wheel thingy and a roller ball in the middle, that would be personal choice, but I like the Dpad better. The P3300 has a slower processor so the battery lasts a bit longer, however if you limit the connection on the P3600 to Edge then it saves battery life. Otherwise, they are almost the same size. Why anyone would buy a P3300 now that the P3600 has GPS is a mystery to me.
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I've heard bad things about the GPS in the P3600, it seems to have a very bad sensivity compared to the P3300's top notch Sirf III.
Another point in favor of the P3300 would be its free upgrade to WM6.
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I've heard bad things about the GPS in the P3600, it seems to have a very bad sensivity compared to the P3300's top notch Sirf III.
Another point in favor of the P3300 would be its free upgrade to WM6.
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Well, my experience is that in real world use, you don't see much of a difference. I have a SirfStarIII GPS too so I can compare, the Trinity is slower to lock on a cold boot, but once the Trinity is locked in it just works. I believe WM6 will come to the Trinity one way or another eventually.
I bought a P3300, but as soon as I discover that the P3600 has also GPS I exchanged the P3300 for a P3600.
P3600 vs. P3300:
P3600 has 3G + irda + 400Mhz
P3300 has radio + StarSirf III
I have tested both of them and I can say that although many people here says that there is no difference in the GPS, I can assure you that there IS a difference, mainly in cold start time and dilution of position, with my P3300 once you get the position fixed it stays centered around the real point with little dilution, with the P3600 I get change in position of between 5 and 30 meters without moving the HTC. If you are looking for a really good GPS the P3300 is the way to go, the P3600 is not good enough for difficult geocaching.
But.... I have also to say that although many people would tell you that 200Mhz in the P3300 is enough, I was quite unhappy with 200Mhz, many apps, starting by the GUI of WM5 would run slower and you can clearly notice it if you check both of them. Besides 400Mhz 3G (for the future) and IrDA (for the past) are good things. The P3300 has an integrated radio, but my iRiver HP-120 has it too (I won't use my P3600 as a mp3/radio player) so I can live without it.
Conclusion... I exchange a P3300 for a P3600 and I'm really happy, I think that the P3600 is the almost-definitive pocket pc, if they would have put a StarSirfIII in it I think I would keep it forever, anyway I don't look forward for a N95 or an iPhone ... P3600 fulfills all my needs. My recomendation ... if you need very high precission GPS go for the P3300 in other case, the P3600 is the MACHINE!
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The accuracy of GPS on my P3600 is indecipherable from that of my old TomTom 500. The only difference is the cold start time to get first fix.
I have heard many things about the slow processor in the P3300 not being able to cope with many popular applications. It is I think half the mhz of a P3600 cpu.
The 3300 CPU is slower but its not directly proportionate to clock speed, its battery life will also be better. I have had no problems running any applications on my 3300 and if I overclock it to 250MHz then I would say it out performs my previous BlueAngel at speed over 300MHz.
The thing I really like about the 3300 is the jog dial / trackball - best control device I have used on a pocket device.
3300 has got a major issue regarding MicroSD card corruption though which may be WM5 related.
What memory card type does the 3600 have?
P3600 has miniSD
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Things I didn't like:
Micro SD (this is a big negative unless 4gb microSD cards become available)
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Hopefully it will be fully SDHC compatible, which is expected since it is a much newer device and hopefully HTC will have addressed the problem. If so, 4GB MicroSD cards will become available soon, SanDisk and Kingston have already announced them.
p3600 over orbit
i did have an orbit for a month could not live with slow prossesser and no 3g band
i now have spv m700 upgraded rom to dopod d810 and if you can do without radio its much better than orbit its faster and it has hsdpa system lets put this way its like a ford and bmw so which one you go for?
Happy P3600 User
Now that I got the official GPS-enabled ROM from HTC I am very happy with the Trinity/P3600. I agree with the earlier comments that if your main focus is GPS, then the built-in receiver in the 3600 may not be the ideal choice. That said, there's nothing to stop you using a BT receiver. I find the built-in works just fine and actually got rid of my BT receiver.
What really impresses me is the 3G connectivity, which finally makes internet access on a mobile really worthwhile. On a 3G network (which seems to be spreading daily), I can download e-mails, surf the web and make phone calls, all at the same time. It's so fast and reliable, I can even stream internet radio while driving to work!
I was thinking of getting a 4350 for the slide-out keyboard, but I'm not giving up 3G for anything. I will definitely look at the 4550.
I have an M700 and XDA has helped me loads to get it where it is now. It does everything i need, but the HTC Touch looks better! Materialistic, i know but what the hell.
Don't know much about the HTC Touch, hope thats the right name for it. Seen a picture with a keypad slide down on it. Is that on all models or are there 2 versions?
So anyway, to the point, orange are offering me a upgrade, shall i take it? Presume it has built in gps, a must as i use tom tom on my m700.
Many thanks George
for many parts it's a downgrade
Trinity http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Trinity
HSDPA
wifi
cpu400Mhz
gps
elf http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Elf
EDGE
no wifi
cpu201Mhz
no gps
if you want a new one
get touch II
kaiser
or the new touch cruse
Thanks for that. Great links! I'll stick with my M700 then, i didn't realise it was that much better.
Hello...
I am not a new memeber, just new to the Wizard forum... I have a 8925 (Tilt) and love it.. use the GPS almost daily and love all the software for it... I have the oppertunity to pick up a used 8125 (Wizard) for $50 in full working order... I think picking it up is a no-brainer... Here are my questions...
GPS : I did a search in the forum and can find nothing stating whether this unit does or does not have a built in GPS chip like my 8925 (or my friends Titan)... I am assuming that it does not... but I would love to be plesantly suprised... SO, does it have a built in GPS chip?
Rom Update : I know it comes with WM 5.0 on it.. but my 8925 has the WM 6.1 on there, so I wanted something closer... With this upgrade, will the 8125 be able to use the SDHC SD cards ? What is the size limit? I downloaded the SNN Diamond WM 6.1 rom from the Wizard Forums.. and feedback on that rom?
Advice : I will most likely be giving this phone to a friend of mine who is envious of my tilt, as it does most everything my tilt can do (keeping my fingers crossed on the gps thing)... Any tips/advice from someone who has used both devices? Any tricks or anything I should be aware of? (I will most likely be their only form of tech support for the phone as they will be using it on Einstein PCS, not tmobile or at&t)
Thank you so much in advance for your help! I will greatly appreciate it!
Sorry, no gps. I use the SNN rom and I love it.
Thanks for the reply!
I assume this will stil lbe able to work with a bluetooth GPS puck, right?
Ya, I use a Telelogic Bluetooth GPS "puck" receiver with my 8125 since there is no GPS builtin. Also, the 8125 has a slower processor, most things seem to work fine for me.
I haven't heard if WM6.1 enables SDHC on Wizard. Regular SD is 2GB max I think. I still use stock ROM.
Thanks so much for everyones help... This afternoon I picked up the stock rom and locked Cingular 8125 for $50.. I have it CID and Sim Unlocked thanks to software found here in the forum.... And I upgraded it to the SNN WM 6.1 Diamond rom... Working great... I got the internet and such set up for Einstein Wireless as my friend who will be getting it from me will be using them for service...
SDHC will not work, the hardware does not support it. The Wizard's CPU functions at 180mhz stock but it can (and should IMHO!) be over-clocked to 240mhz.
I'm running WM 6.1 with Manila and it's really only lacking GPS.
Having said that, I wish I had the money for a Fuze!