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Hey ppl,
just bought these excellent machine (onestopphoneshop, cheap as chips!) but im avin bit of a problem with the bluetooth. it works, one way, i can use my headset and ppl can send me files thu it. however i cant for the hell of me get it to send files, i can thu IR, just not bluetooth. no where, not even file explorer does it say "send via bluetooth" or watever. also my friend has just got a pocketpc with 2003 on, and she says tht she has a "bluetooth manager"which is nowhere to be seen on mine!!
is this a normal problem, or is my xda2 crazy??
thx alot
alvin
This will help and is free!
http://bluetooth.i-networx.de/index_e.html
alvin5785 said:
Hey ppl,
just bought these excellent machine (onestopphoneshop, cheap as chips!) but im avin bit of a problem with the bluetooth. it works, one way, i can use my headset and ppl can send me files thu it. however i cant for the hell of me get it to send files, i can thu IR, just not bluetooth. no where, not even file explorer does it say "send via bluetooth" or watever. also my friend has just got a pocketpc with 2003 on, and she says tht she has a "bluetooth manager"which is nowhere to be seen on mine!!
is this a normal problem, or is my xda2 crazy??
thx alot
alvin
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Alvin... Try this.
Firstly, turn bluetooth ON, on your phone, in the normal way.
Then, in File Explorer, tap AND HOLD, on an image file, til the context menu pops up (you are probably already doing this anyway, if you say you can send by IR).
Then select the option to "BEAM FILE" to send the image.
Now this is the informative bit... In the screen that then appears, you will see a magnifying glass icon or two - one for Infra Red beaming, the other one meaning it is still searching for devices.
What you SHOULD also have IF another BT device is in range, is a kind of standard radio transmit indicator, of a circle or dot, with radial rings coming out from it (or at least something similar, as I am going of the top of my head here). THIS is the indicator for a BLUETOOTH device. You will have a few of these in the list, if there is more than one device in range
Its a slow discovery process, but after a while, this indicator, will have an identification code alongside it - this is the hexadecimal notation for the device you wish to send it to.
Leave it searching for a while, and this will then change to the proper name of the other device.
At that point, you can then tap SEND where it indicates, to beam the file by BT.
Note - for it to send, the receiving phone needs to be set up to receive files, be discoverable etc etc.
And as a note, for the XDA2 to be able to receive files, the option to Recieve incoming beams, needs to be ON too - this is often forgotten.
See the screen shots I have knowcked up for more info...
hey thxs for tht ppl, i will try what you said 2moro Shadamehr thx. i went to tht link but unfortuneatly it aint really helped, its more to do with power saving n stuff, not sendin files.
erm i do have another question tho, i have a fellin the answers gonna be no. Can i use my bluetooth headset as normal earpiece/mic for system sounds etc not just phone calls?
thx for ur help
Not with the current bluetooth software.
fair dos, ill just av to wait!
but back to the bluetooth manager, why dont i have one? do all xda2's not have one??
and i still havent managed to send owt yet, but i aint tried to hard yet, ill keep at it!
The Microsoft Bluetooth implentation is very different from the ones you'll find on Ipaq machines, which use the Widcomm Bluetooth stack. It seems like a lot of functionality is missing on the Microsoft one, but in fact a lot is there; it's just not logically organised. Downloading and installing the Bluetooth tools linked above will provide some of the features you probably think you're missing. Try it!
Hope this helps.
Is anyone else finding that their bluetooth is really slow at sending and receiving items. Also that there is no way to send items direct to a contact that is in your partnership list, you have to search for them every time you want to send something. If someone has found ways around these problems, please let me know.
an adaption of the Blue angel's bluetooth interface would be lovely. It had loads of options, and let you explore remote devices. This is just like the XDA2.
Would it be possible to port the BA software onto the wizard? I think it uses a different BT stack.
they were able to port the wizards rom to run on a blue angel. I guess they should be able to use the blue angels bluetooth on a wizard.
Please help - is so annoying
Ok, after a little research i found this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=33532 .It has an app which i installed and has helped a little. I can now send images direct to people i have paired with without having to search local bluetooth first. The thing is it only sends images to paired people. I want it to also send sound and video files. When in file explorer, holding down on an image brings up the extra option of "Send image via bluetooth" which then allows to send by the already paired devices. When doing the same on videos and sound, it doesnt give this option. Maybe this can be done in the registry, but i dont know alot about that so maybe someone could help?
i tried this on my kjam and i had a problem with it, so i uninstalled it.
the problem i had is that the bt keep switching off by itself with no reason, even if i was already syncing over bt, the connection is lost suddenly and i found out that the bt is off (even though the bt icon on the system tray shows its still on).
i don't know about you guys, but i had this prob twice, i reinstalled it again and gave me the same prob.
i can live without it.
Ok, maybe that stack is not all that great. After soft reset lost all sound, and BT does not work properly. Uninstalled and back to normal. So again is there any way to send to people in your paired list without having to search for them every time. Is becoming a pain coz some new phones turn off discoverable after 60 seconds. So they have to keep turning theirs back on. Its a simple option, dont know why they didnt put this in. Any help?
I haven't seen more than 50-60KBps. Has anyone else seen higher transfer rates?
Wizard's BT is useless. Buggy, slow and poor.
And it is not v2.0, it is v1.2
It does not have EDR.
It doesn't even have PAN ffs... :x
tsiros said:
I haven't seen more than 50-60KBps. Has anyone else seen higher transfer rates?
Wizard's BT is useless. Buggy, slow and poor.
And it is not v2.0, it is v1.2
It does not have EDR.
It doesn't even have PAN ffs... :x
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Info about BT in wizard. Directly from BT CIG's site. The problem is not with the Wizard, it is in usin MS BT stack.
thanks for that emmeborn, if the problem is the stack, do you know of a stack upgrade which works good? I tried the stack form the blue angel, but stuffed up my phone, so uninstalled it.
actually, i just looked at those pdf files, and at the bottom where it has the revisions, seems they have launched a version around 1 month ago. Would this be a software or hardware update. If its software then i reckon this could solve alot of problems im having.
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actually, i just looked at those pdf files, and at the bottom where it has the revisions, seems they have launched a version around 1 month ago. Would this be a software or hardware update. If its software then i reckon this could solve alot of problems im having.
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It is the long awaited rom update. A test version of that rom has already leaked. You can find more info in the Wizard upgrade forum topic about that version.
I am awaiting the localized swedish version of that rom and the latest about that version is that it should be released mid March.
Hey,
I flashed my 8125 with Summiter's Cingular_RUU_WIZARD_217_AKU2_WWE-RINGRS-OCLOCK.exe.
I have a question now: can I use Bluetooth File Transfer Service with Bluesoleil Bluetooth USB dongle?
If not, is there a way to fix it?
Also I cannot send/receive files (like tones or pictures) via BT... This is really weird since most of BT enabled phones have this option, even the cheapest of them...
Don't get me wrong, but it's kinda embarrasing when a guy shows off with his RAZR sending pictures and stuff and I can't...
HELP, PLEASE....
Ps. yeah... I hate RAZR's...
I am not familiar with that ROM but you should be able to pair with that dongle - just make sure both are discoverable and they should be able to pair. Also you can send files via bluetooth use the inbuilt file explorer and click on file and menu should appear - choose beam file and bluetooth window will appear
Nope... it doesn't... I got only IR...
Need more info to help.
Does your bluetooth go on and is it discoverable? Does blue indicator light flash? Did bluetooth work before flashing with new rom?
Cuz you should definitely be able to bt with file explorer. If not i assume its a rom problem and would suggest trying to flash back to original rom.
Well, the BT itself works well. I use BT earpiece and SellingClicker with no problems.
Yet, I don't have an option to beam anything via BT... Only IR or MMS.
And I have no idea whether it worked with oroginal ROM since I flashed it the very second day I got it... Yeah, yeah... I know... that was stupid...
Anyways, any other suggestions?
I figured out a way how to send files from one phone to the other... (I think, coz I didn't really test throughfuly)
The big question is: how do I send and receive files to the PC without using ActiveSync?
You have to....
...have your bluetooth om and discoverable to be able to send files via bluetooth.
Once you tap "Beam", you'll have to wait a few seconds to see the option to send via btooth. You'll first see just the "Infared" prompt, then underneath it, you'll start to see "Unknown Devices" appear, Unknown Device changing to the actual device name, once you MDA picks it up. Then you can tap to send to that particular device.
So you can do it....I just think it's misleading that it only says "Beam".....
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Jaidnoire said:
...have your bluetooth om and discoverable to be able to send files via bluetooth.
Once you tap "Beam", you'll have to wait a few seconds to see the option to send via btooth. You'll first see just the "Infared" prompt, then underneath it, you'll start to see "Unknown Devices" appear, Unknown Device changing to the actual device name, once you MDA picks it up. Then you can tap to send to that particular device.
So you can do it....I just think it's misleading that it only says "Beam".....
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Yes, but when I finally send it to the PC all the PC does is open MS Outlook and that's it...
The way I see it is that OBEX file is nothing else but a "business card" file read only by outlook.
Did you try sending files both ways yourself?
:-(
common guys... help, please..
Just now I was trying to send a 5mb file from PC to phone via the Bluetooth Object Push Transfer. It was working for about 5 min and... nothing... the PC says: Object Push Service is disconnected... on the phone there is nothing. Even the memory status stays exactly as it was 10 min ago... :-(
help, please
i have a mda vario and i want to beam files to another phone thru bluetooth but there is no outgoing port. when i go to bluetooth settings and to com ports, only new incoming port is shown. i cant add a new outgoing port. please someone help me on this.
lsnizzle said:
i have a mda vario and i want to beam files to another phone thru bluetooth but there is no outgoing port. when i go to bluetooth settings and to com ports, only new incoming port is shown. i cant add a new outgoing port. please someone help me on this.
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Hi,
You'll probably need to start bluetooth via the comm manager.
It will find other hardware with open bluetooth ports.
- Go to the file you wish to beam to someone else.
- Tap the file (keep the stylus on it untill you get the menu)
- Choose " send file" (this might be called differently, my version is dutch)
- Select bluetooth.
Good luck!
Greetz,
Flar
it doesnt seem to work
when I beam a file, it never detects a bluetooth. all it shows is the Infared and searching... it searches for a long time but never detects a bluetooth. any other suggestions?
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lsnizzle said:
when I beam a file, it never detects a bluetooth. all it shows is the Infared and searching... it searches for a long time but never detects a bluetooth. any other suggestions?
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Hi,
The procedure I gave seems to work properly with my MDA.
You could check if the person you're beaming to has bluetooth (turned on) but I guess you've checked that already.
Otherwise try to minimize the distance between the two pieces of hardware.
If that doesn't solve your problem, I can't help you any further, maybe bring it by the shop where you bought it to have it checked?
Good luck & greetz,
Flar
yeah same here never managed to get bluetooth to work
i found that i needed to enable beam recieve in order to recieve on bluetooth, the incoming and outgoing port stuff i left alone.
so i can now receive files but haven't got a clue how to send them, i make a bluetooth partnership ok (my mate can then send me a file) but i can not find the option to send one back. the file explorer menu doesn't have bluetooth listed on it?
R_J_Webb said:
yeah same here never managed to get bluetooth to work
i found that i needed to enable beam recieve in order to recieve on bluetooth, the incoming and outgoing port stuff i left alone.
so i can now receive files but haven't got a clue how to send them, i make a bluetooth partnership ok (my mate can then send me a file) but i can not find the option to send one back. the file explorer menu doesn't have bluetooth listed on it?
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I am having this same issue. Anyone know the solution? All I want to do is send some files to my wife's v3 but I cant setup a new outgoing port. I am running the latest official rom from cingular.
You need to ensure you already have bluetooth turned on before starting this procedure (many miss this simple point, as they assume it will automatically turned on)
Tap and hold on the file you want to send, and select "Beam"
Wait a few seconds for it to scan for devices.
All IRDA recipients (If any) will be listed, and below them, all available Bluetooth recipients will be shown.
Hope this helps you m8
I'm using TMobile MDA, newest ROM, and having the same problem, I'm able to recieve bluetooth but there is no option for beaming a file via bluetooth, only IR... and yes, bluetooth is enabled properly and I am properly partnered with a V3...
RE: can't beam files using bluetooth port.
lsnizzle said:
i have a mda vario and i want to beam files to another phone thru bluetooth but there is no outgoing port. when i go to bluetooth settings and to com ports, only new incoming port is shown. i cant add a new outgoing port. please someone help me on this.
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Make sure both phones are enabled to be "seen" . My friend and I were trying to figure this out the other day, and she has her device set to something like 'make this device invisible' so even though our phones were next to each other, her device wasn't showing up. Once we changed this, both devices were visible.
***However, neither phone was allowing the sending of files to each other thru the bluetooth, and I'm wondering if this has something to do with her having a Sprint Treo 650 w/ Palm OS, and I have Cingular 8125 w/ WM5.... anyone have any answers for this one??***
Thanks in advance.
Ermm this is a very stupid question, but I appear not to be able to send recieve stuff with my brand new Hermes. If a file is selected in the File Explorer and 'Beam' is selected, then the BT search works fine, but the usual Align IR port line doesnt even appear :S
Furthermore, the IR LED doesnt turn on (I checked by watching through another phone camera, which can 'see' IR turn on)?
I cannot recieve files either, it would appear, despite beam being enabled in the communications screen and the 'accept incoming beams': nothing happens, other phones can't find the device...?
Ive searched IrDA problems, but found nothing, can anyone suggest an easy way to test (I realise this is a very noobish problem, so thanks for the time spent reading this)?
PS I am running this rom:
http://www.handy-faq.de/forum/htc_h...ermes_rom_wm6_1_wwe_s64_v2_download_2057.html
this is a new kind of problem and the thing is not everybody is using IR for their communication connection. IR is slower than bluetooth so no body bother for it. Even I have used only 5 times (may be) in two years for business card to some non bluetooth handsets
Although IR is not very popular now, I still use IR function very frequently. I use it to transfer small file to my PC which has no bluetooth function built-in, but has an IR port on it.I like the feeling of "everything always be connected".
Back to the title, you could try two things.
1) Check the settings->connection->wireless send/receive( I don't know the exact name on your phone, I use Chinese version, the english name of it is just my guess ), the check box in it should be checked.
2) In wireless manager, in its setting there is also an controlling stuff related to wireless connection, check it ,and make it appear in the manager main screen, then you can turn it on.
You can try above two thing first.
yinx said:
1) Check the settings->connection->wireless send/receive( I don't know the exact name on your phone, I use Chinese version, the english name of it is just my guess ), the check box in it should be checked.
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just to help......its called settings->connection->beam in english
Actually I have a similar problem, though I have an Atom.
Tried flashing, didn't work for me. Guess it is a hardware problem.
When I cooked my polish rom there was an option normaly enable witch turn of the irda port. When I turn it of the irda works fine. Unfortunetly my present rom WM6.1 wasn't cooked and irda is turn off. Could somebody shaw me way to turn it on? THX.