How do I add ring tones? - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General

Hi
I have some .wav files on my SD card which I used to use as rng tones on my old pDA2K.
I cannot remember how to make this happen as none of them appear as options on the K-JAM?
Cheers.
Robin

Copy them into the Windows / Rings folder, and then you should be able to select them from the phone / menu / options

Or in the registries you can change the path where the setting app looks for the ring tones:
Code:
HKCU\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\Ring\Directory

Lord Buckingham said:
Copy them into the Windows / Rings folder, and then you should be able to select them from the phone / menu / options
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How about if they are on my SD card?
I don't see a Windows/ Rings folder there.
Robin

Putting Ringtones on SD card wil slow reaction and may affect phone to
use default ring unstead of one of your choice

Seems to work fine from my MiniSD card, without any noticeable delay. I entered
Code:
\Storage Card\MP3
as directory. The weird thing is that (in the phone sound settings panel) it doesn't list playable files in that single directory, but files from the entire device (including the storage card). I suspect it can't handle the path I entered, so it does a recursive search from the top file namespace of the device (hence the list of all playable files). But that's just speculation

Will the Wizard play .mp3 files as ring tones or do they have to be .wav files?
Robin

Hm...I named the directory MP3.... Let me just ponder what kind of files I dropped in there :wink:

It doesn't seem to like ALL flavours of MP3. VBR is one of them. And it's quite difficult to restore the original setting: the sound control panel is still unable to find the original ringtones, like "Old phone .wma", despite the fact that I restored teh registry value to its original setting.

Where goes system sound files? Not ring signals

easyest way to install ring tones is to hold the stylus on the audio file, and on the menu you will find "set as Ringtone" and the file is copied to the ringtone directory

Yeah, but that's actually the problem: the file will occupie 3-5 MB of valueable internal memory, instead of the SD-card (which is relatively large).

I tried to install a WAV file, put it in the Rings folder and it was then shown in the ringtone selection also. I tried to play it but it didn't work, just silence.
Is there a limit to the size? I tried a guitar solo that is 3.5 mb in size.
-John

i have an mp3 file that is an 8.06mb size file that is my ring tone.

aliendad said:
easyest way to install ring tones is to hold the stylus on the audio file, and on the menu you will find "set as Ringtone" and the file is copied to the ringtone directory
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thanks works a treat.

I think you should just use a part of your mp3 files (about 20seconds) because when you receive a call, it will not ring more than those 20s.. So you should use a wave editor on your computer, select only a part of your music, and then compress it in mp3 format (CBR for best compatibility). Your file will only be around 100Ko and you can just copy the ring you need in the "\windows\rings" directory, and store other on your sd card. if one day you want to chnge your ting, just replace another file in the "\windows\rings" directory...

jchanh said:
because when you receive a call, it will not ring more than those 20s..
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That's not quite correct: it depends on your provider and voice-mail settings. I use no voicemail, and T-Mobile NL waits about 50-60 seconds until ending the unanswered call. If I set up my voicemail to answer right after the first ring, then my phone stops ringing before it even get's the chance to play the MP3.
So it depend on alot of circumstances.

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mp3 Ringtone !!

HI,
Please, How to set an mp3 file as a ring tone to the Magician?
Thanks,
Dear Friends,
I cant believe 77 viewers, with no single quote? unless my question is a stupid one !!!
Any guide line?
thanks alot.
just download this and install at Magician.
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just download this and install at Magician.
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THANKS ALOT MASTER.
IT WORKS VERY WELL.
Not working for me. Installed, no error messages, but I still can't use mp3's as ringtone. Actually in file manager mp3's are not associated with any programs. Could someone give any help?
you dont need anything to set a .mp3 as a ringtone, just place the mp3 file in the rings folder under windows and go to the tone selection screen and it will be there.
PLACE MP3 FILE IN FOLLOWING FOLDER
\\My Device\Windows\Rings
then do this
Start>Settings>Sounds & Notifications>Notifications(on bottom)
Then Event:.. scroll down to Phone: Incoming Call then tap the drop down box by ring tone and it will be there.
There should deffinately be a FAQ sticky for this kinda stuff
windows moible second edition supports mp3 as ring tone by default
alix776 said:
windows moible second edition supports mp3 as ring tone by default
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I Have Windows Mobile 2003 (Second Edition) Version 4.21.1088 (Build 15045.2.6.0)
BUT I can not set mp3 file as a ringtone without the above software.
fone_fanatic said:
you dont need anything to set a .mp3 as a ringtone, just place the mp3 file in the rings folder under windows and go to the tone selection screen and it will be there.
PLACE MP3 FILE IN FOLLOWING FOLDER
\\My Device\Windows\Rings
then do this
Start>Settings>Sounds & Notifications>Notifications(on bottom)
Then Event:.. scroll down to Phone: Incoming Call then tap the drop down box by ring tone and it will be there.
There should deffinately be a FAQ sticky for this kinda stuff
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So it can't be done without placing the mp3 in the ringtones directory? In deed it's not working for me that way either. I can see the mp3 on the list, but after choosing and pressing an OK, it sets itself back to windows default. Actually I can't use anything else than windows default. I'm really getting mad, plz help! Where is the file associations menu? Maybe there's some problem there. This thing is messed up since I've installed and uninstalled winamp...
Work great on wm2005 1.60b
Man i dont know is if its the program or the windows itself..but under the settings of notifications all my mp3 is listed ..which i never knew!...this is GREAT!
AMD
Work great on wm2005 1.60b
Man i dont know is if its the program or the windows itself..but under the settings of notifications all my mp3 is listed ..which i never knew!...this is GREAT!
AMD
It would appear that by default mp3 ringtones are allowed, however once you install a third party app to play mp3's (you mention winamp) you lose the ability to use them(it seems that the Media player engine is used for this).Uninstalling the app makes no difference, you then have no mp3 player because the mobile version of windows does not restore the file association. The best way round this that I have found is to simply use an audio app (Nero wave editor in my case) to convert/edit the mp3s to wma. This has the bonus that most mp3 tracks are too long for a ringtone (how many phones ring for 3-4 minutes without kicking in the answering service ?) so when you convert you can also reduce the length.
I cant comment on the set ringtone cab posted here, never tried it, it may work
HTH
I am able to install the cab file without any error message but still can't use mp3's as ringtone. The mp3 file appears in the Sound and Notification drop down list, but whenever I select the mp3 file and try to play, it doesn't play and return back to Windows Default ringtone. Can anyone tell me that what is the problem?
cool_paki said:
I am able to install the cab file without any error message but still can't use mp3's as ringtone. The mp3 file appears in the Sound and Notification drop down list, but whenever I select the mp3 file and try to play, it doesn't play and return back to Windows Default ringtone. Can anyone tell me that what is the problem?
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The same problem I have. Also I don't think so that the easiest way to solve it is to convert each of my mp3's to wma or whatever. Somehow there should be a way to restore the file associations. Maybe if someone would have a media player to install (re-install) that could solve it. The problem is that I've also lost my former ringtones.
Have a look at this thread here. Ive just downloaded the files but not tried em yet. Seems to be able to restore file associations so that WMP becomes your default player. This should then allow you to use mp3's as ringtones
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=27269
cool_paki said:
I am able to install the cab file without any error message but still can't use mp3's as ringtone. The mp3 file appears in the Sound and Notification drop down list, but whenever I select the mp3 file and try to play, it doesn't play and return back to Windows Default ringtone. Can anyone tell me that what is the problem?
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GO TO START/SETTING/PERSONAL/PHONE (AND SELECT YOUR MP3 FROM THERE).
CHEERS,
YAARUB
So the file associations are normal again, thx to your help. But how can I set an mp3 as ringtone which is stored on the sd card other than copying it to the ringtones folder as it takes far too much space from the main memory? The settings-ringtones does not find the mp3 files either on the sd or in the system memory, only wavs and mids.
@Szilu
I'm afraid there is no other choise but to copy the mp3 ringtone to the main memory.
Im sorry
That's a pity. Anyway can you suggest any programs then to cut mp3's to smaller pieces? As 4 minutes is far too much thus the size can be shrinked. THX for your kind help.
Try "Sound Forge", But im not sure if it support mp3 files or .waqv only, their you can cut the file to small pieces.
good luck.

Ringtones

Hey, this is probably a really stupid question, but I just can't figure it out.
Does the MDA play real tones (ringtones), that are like cuts of mp3s with words and everything? I am asking because I've tried to download them from a few sites and they all say its not compatable once I try to download it, I've already spent a few dollars that have not turned up with nothing. I just want to make sure instead of wasting more money for this bs.
PS. If there are any good ringtone sites (preferably free) could you list them? I am looking for Ludacris and Field Mob feat. Jamie Foxx - Georgia (its been hard to find, and all the places that I find it at won't download onto my phone).
Thanx
you could just copy any WAV (44KHz, 16bit) or WMA (I believe) of sufficiently small duration to your PocketPC's \Windows\ folder and they should show up in the list of possible ring tones. No need to waste $3 on 1 10 second low-quality audio clip.
However, MP3s aren't supported as ring tones without using third party applications - which might be what you're running into with the 'realtones'.
Sometimes it's not enough just to copy them to the Windows folder, so if you tap & hold on the WAV/WMA you want to use then select "Set as Ringtone" it will copy it to the right place for you.
ZeBoxx said:
However, MP3s aren't supported as ring tones without using third party applications - which might be what you're running into with the 'realtones'.
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I have an MP3 as my ring tone. I just put it in my doc folder and select it via phone > options.
Works fine.
Quick Guide on ringtones: (and very rough)
1. Download EnglishSetMP3Ringtone from the FTP and install on your phone
2. Download Audacity and the MP3 Addon. Install on your Computer
3. Download/Rip your Favorite song to MP3
4. Use Audacity to get the bit of the song that you want (30 seconds Max)
5. Copy the New MP3 created in Audacity to your phone
6. Tap and select set as Ringtone
And there you have it.
Dahquim
bilbo_28 said:
ZeBoxx said:
However, MP3s aren't supported as ring tones without using third party applications - which might be what you're running into with the 'realtones'.
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I have an MP3 as my ring tone. I just put it in my doc folder and select it via phone > options.
Works fine.
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Yep, no worries here. My mp3 works fine as a ringtone.
It is located My Device> Windows> Rings and was automatically stored there after selecting 'set as ringtone' within My Sounds folder in My Documents.
dahquim said:
Quick Guide on ringtones: (and very rough)
1. Download EnglishSetMP3Ringtone from the FTP and install on your phone
2. Download Audacity and the MP3 Addon. Install on your Computer
3. Download/Rip your Favorite song to MP3
4. Use Audacity to get the bit of the song that you want (30 seconds Max)
5. Copy the New MP3 created in Audacity to your phone
6. Tap and select set as Ringtone
And there you have it.
Dahquim
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can you please link or direct us to "EnglishSetMP3Ringtone"? i got a headache searching through ftp folders and gave up :roll: :roll:
not for me but for a poor non-htc'er. my wiz plays mp3 ringtones from \windows\rings
gah, I was confusing it with the alarm ( don't tell me I'm wrong on that, too ). No idea why 'realtones' wouldn't work, then - but still, just grab whatever music you want... no need to help make a bunch of people filthy rich because of thousands of people selling 8s of crappy quality music for $3 a piece.
all mp3s work as ringtones on my mda, without any problem
got the jamie foxx tune, download it of limewire etc
I have no problems making ringtones at all. This is what I do:
1- Use Audacity to crop a Mp3, .Wav, or .Wma file to about 20 seconds or so
2- Choose "Save as Mp3"
3- Using Activesync copy your new ringtone to windows/rings folder on your device
4- select the ringtone in sounds/notifications
Too easy! Here's a thread with some if you aren't interested in making your own:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=45290
A commonly used technique is to go to Walmart.com and download all the previews they have of songs and copy them to your device. These are usually about 30sec and more often than not have the most recognizable part of a song.
Hey all
Have a look at http://www.mobile9.com a great site for
all kinds of free stuff like ringtones, wallpapers, etc...
Greetings
Mindmaster
- Find the MP3 files you want to use as ringtones and and save them to your PC.
- Get Audacity (here http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ )
- Use Audacity to crop the part of the MP3 you want to use and save it to your PC.
- Get the free trial of the MP3 to ringtone programme from here http://www.ddz1977.com/ and use it to compress the MP3 to a small file size.
- Copy the new files to your device (to the temp folder for example).
- Open file explorer on the device, go to the directory and tap and hold the the file, then select 'Set as Ringtone' which moves it to the correct location. In the settings window for Notifications you will now see all the files available as ringtones for any notification. (You can now delete the mp3 from the temp folder.)
As an aside, I used the programme to compress all my MP3 music and got 100 CDs on one 1GB mini sd card.

Q : Can ringtones be in MP3 Format?

How come when I put a mp3 files in my ring tones folder it won't play. Does this need to be a wav file?
If so, i don't really want a 35MB file to play my ring tone.
Thanks
jw
I have a mp3 as ringtone, though I use PZP, but as far as I understood, PZP just changes the standard settings of WM, so it should be possible without PZP too... maybe try a different format of the mp3?
try putting them in your my documents folder. thats where i have mine. I actually made a my documents folder on my storage card, but it sometimes switches to the default tone when it rings from standby. i think its because it starts to ring before it powers up the card again.
Firstly, 35MB wav is like a 2 minutes sound. Do you actually need a 2 minute sound for your ring tone? How long does it takes for you to answer your phone?
Anyway, try compressing it to WMA. You definately can use WMA files for your ring tones. Get the encoder free from M$.
hi @jw,
i guess ur problem caused by third party music software which they assign their program for ur default music file.
how to check it...??? go to file explorer, and see the display icon / play the file for ur mp3 file which u want to assign 4 ur ringtone. does it in WMP's icon and also plays in WMP? if NO, go to ur third party music software and unassigned/uncheck mp3 files format as a default program to play those formats.
because as i know, the device plays mp3 format for ringtone using WMP's system.
i hope this can help u. Gut Luck!!!
Quick & Easy way
You can make MP3's as ringtones easily.
Use File Explorer to locate then file, then press & hold with the stylus (or finger) until you get the options menu.
Hey prestu - Use as Ringtone will be there. Well it is on my phone anyway...
Thanks for all the help guys!
hi, y can't i set ringtones for alarms or text msgs, thanks

mp3s as alarm tone?

Am i missing something obvious, or do i need some extra software to use an mp3 as my alarm tone?
Cheers guys
In WM5 you can only use MP3s as ringtones, NOT notification sounds.
You need to convert your sounds to .wav format then put them into the /windows folder on your device in order to allow them to be visible in alarms and sounds&notifications.
Alternativly update to WM6 and you can use MP3s for all sounds.
I added an mp3 to the windows folder but it doesnt show up in the combo box
for WM6
/windows = built-in alarm, support wav only
/windows = sound and notification, support wav and mp3
/windows/rings = phone ringtones, support wav and mp3
for WM5
/windows = built-in alarm, support wav only
/windows = sound and notification, support wav only
/windows/rings = phone ringtones, support wav and mp3
Mp3 Alarm Tones off SD Card?
Is there a way in WM6 to use Mp3's off the SD Card with out moving the Mp3's to the windows root? If anyone has found a way please let me know been looking for a while....
takaki said:
for WM6
/windows = built-in alarm, support wav only
/windows = sound and notification, support wav and mp3
/windows/rings = phone ringtones, support wav and mp3
for WM5
/windows = built-in alarm, support wav only
/windows = sound and notification, support wav only
/windows/rings = phone ringtones, support wav and mp3
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What about WMA files as ringtones and notification sounds??? Is it possible to use them with wm6?? If so, where do they need to be put on the device or what reg key needs to be changed to work off the sd card. Thanks!
I've got a new .wav file in \windows and it is showing up in the alarms dropdown but whwn I select it the value will not persist ('flicks' to previous in list). Do the file properties need to be anything in particular and if so how is best to change them. Or is it something else?
K
osker-xda said:
I've got a new .wav file in \windows and it is showing up in the alarms drop-down but when I select it the value will not persist ('flicks' to previous in list). Do the file properties need to be anything in particular and if so how is best to change them. Or is it something else?
K
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Not to clear on what your asking.
Because I don't know what your running on your PDA? (OS, ROM etc.)
A little History is always helpful..
Did it ever work before?
I'll take a stab at it... I'm assuming you have WM6 as the OS and you have a hermes
From what you wrote, you have a new wave file and it shows up in the drop-down list but goes back to the default alarm tones, and that your new wave never engages, not even during the test?(where you selected the alarm tone)
I can suggest a few things:
~Try locating your wave or mp3 clips in: My Device\Application Data\Sounds
(This worked great for me, I was able to use the files here as ring-tones and alarms)
~Check to make sure the file is not protected, read only or hidden
~Try a smaller wave file at a lower bit rate (More or less as a test)
~Try converting the wave file to mp3
Hope this helps!
Good luck!
jac said:
Is there a way in WM6 to use Mp3's off the SD Card with out moving the Mp3's to the windows root? If anyone has found a way please let me know been looking for a while....
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Would love to know this myself. Thought I'd been using some off my mSD card before upgd'ing to WM6, but am not able to make it work yet in vp3G's AT&T ROM.
jac said:
Is there a way in WM6 to use Mp3's off the SD Card with out moving the Mp3's to the windows root? If anyone has found a way please let me know been looking for a while....
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You can use different 3rd party apps, i.e. enAlarm as alarm clock, photcontactspro for ringtones and sms.
BUT:
As the card is not responding that fast as Ram there is a chance for the so called SOD (sleep of dead) if your device is in power save mode. The alarm goes off or the phone is ringing, the application is searching for the sound file, but the card is not ready because of the power save mode. The application is confused - black screen - sleep of dead.
I recommend to save all sound files for ring- alarm- and sms tones in the main memory.
ok i figured out how to make the mp3 into the alarm tones. basically the file size must be around or less than 600 kb, and in wave file. if you have an mp3 convert to .wav, and change the quality. for me, i used PCM 11.025 kHz, 16 Bit, Mono, but its dependant on the size of your song file. you can use your sound recorder to make these adjustments.

how to set my customed ringtones for Alarm or Text message notification

Hi there,
i have search in the full device, but i can't set one of my ringtones for text message notification except the stock htc ringtones, and i can't find a menu to set a ringtone for the Alarm ( my wake up morning alarm for example)
is there something i missed , or an application to manage this ? or may be there is a method to save ringtones ( size , format, during time of the audio file)
if somebody knows it will be great .....
Charles
for the ringtone for messages you need to go to Application Data\Sounds and paste your ringtone there. (MS makes it easy for you right? --> NOT)
setting the alarm sound can be done via start->settings->system tab-> clock & alarms.
From there on you can click on the alarm bell to select a sound.
As for the alarm, i'm figuring out that one myself. It seems no .mp3 can be used for the alarm sound. I think it needs to be a .wav file.
If anyone has a solution for the alarm, please post!
Use a great program on my xda2i called Alarmtoday. It's excellent, but today screen based... unsure how it'll work with tf3d.
I have also heard someone tout a program called ptravel alarm. I'm getting my HD early this week and I WILL be working on this so i'll keep watching this thread.
thanks for the path ...i will try for the text message sound ......
regarding the Alarm sound choice , it's really amazing that you don't a menu to pick you favorite mp3 ringtone and make it your alarm sound .... i'm an old iphone user but a 8 years nokia user , and i always had the choice .....
.... hope you will find a way for this .....
Charles
the Diamond has a program called MP3 Trimmer which places the file in the right folder, i'd heard the HD had this program?
2unique said:
the Diamond has a program called MP3 Trimmer which places the file in the right folder, i'd heard the HD had this program?
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yes it does
i'v tried with the wav file for my text message notification and it works if stored in Application data / sounds ...but i have shell32,exe error message .....
hummm not so good.
for the alarm issue: i converted an mp3 song of 3,5 mo in wav format and the result is a wav file of 35 mo !!!!! i think it's too big for just a sound file and i didn't try to store it and set ti as default alarm tone .....
seriously guys, check for a third party program like I mentioned,
I use ALARM TODAY and it is excellent. MP3 alarm is just one of many functions.
It needs to be in "wma" format, if you want to assign your own sound to the text/mail alerts its has to be "wma", iv tried "mp3" and "wav" but it never worked. "wma" worked for me.
Thanks for the tip ..... i will try in wma file format ......
i don't want to use many third party programs..... the device is unstable with lot of stuff installed on it ...i want to learn how to use the WM6 goods but it seems to be complicated for some simple things !!!!!
MS needs to hurry with their WM7..... it's not acceptable that setting a ringtone or messagetone is this difficult. I would have expected that if i choose the property of a mp3 i can use that mp3 to:
- set as ringtone
- set as messagetone
- set as alarm
- set as ...
How hard can that be?
i totally agree ...... i don't understand why this kind of device can't do what can do a 25 euros nokia phone .... it's nonsense .....
i've been using a program called audacity for my ringtones and for my messages.
Under 'My Documents' there's a 'My ringtones' folder - I threw all mine in there, although it seems that you dont necc. have to (have to say, it's much easier/better organised on WM6.1 HD - it was a little awkward on the Cruise)
It seems no .mp3 can be used for the alarm sound. I think it needs to be a .wav file.
If anyone has a solution for the alarm, please post!
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I didn't know that - although - it has to be said that the alarm program in WM is retarded. I use my phone as my daily alarm clock, have for years - there's no PRACTICAL 'snooze' option in WM - anyway, my solution - SPB TIME - works like a dream (pardon the pun...) and the snooze buttons are nice and big enough, even for my sleep fogged brain...
ringtone alarm problem
Hi
I found the solution of problem ringtone alarm
You have convert sound files to wma format and copy in windows folder
Disconnect USBcable and happy this!!
Sorry my english
ringtone/alerts
i have been converting and using my own ringtones and message alert tones for a while now,
mp3 files work as ringtones if you put the trimmed down version (as only 30 secs is useful) in the /Windows/Rings folder
the message alerts and alarm alerts you need .wav files placed inside the /Windows folder itself.
i just use copy and paste from my PC in active sync mode to put the files there and then use the 'Sounds and Notifications' to assign them.
i use smallest wav file ie 5/6 sec for the alerts but longer versions could possibly work..
thanks
i have made a cab file with a few tones and each of these tones will be installed into the correct place for you to choose under the right heading
www.ourhtc.co.uk/l6cum tones.cab is where i have uploaded it to (7.5MB)
contains approx 5 ringtones and 4 alert tones
rather than using the phone memory for ringtones and other tones, u can create a "My Documents" folder on memory card and put all your tones inside there be it mp3,wma, wav or any other format the phone supports, then select them from "sounds and notifications"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=466760
For calls:
Can place wma, wav, or mp3 in \My Documents\My Ringtones
Or:
Can place wma, wav, or mp3 in \Windows\Rings
For other sounds / alerts:
Simply place wma, wav, or mp3 in \Windows Folder
if you create a "My Documents" folder on storage card, out all your tones inside there, be it ringtone tone, mms tone, sms tone or even activesync tone, which is wat i did i added a modem dialup tone to active, all coming from the storage, i can more a less guarantee that they will work from storage card even its its wav the phone will pick it and use where its required. personally i wouldnt use the phone storage for any tones
jim256 said:
For calls:
Can place wma, wav, or mp3 in \My Documents\My Ringtones
Or:
Can place wma, wav, or mp3 in \Windows\Rings
For other sounds / alerts:
Simply place wma, wav, or mp3 in \Windows Folder
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iky10 said:
if you create a "My Documents" folder on storage card, out all your tones inside there, be it ringtone tone, mms tone, sms tone or even activesync tone, which is wat i did i added a modem dialup tone to active, all coming from the storage, i can more a less guarantee that they will work from storage card even its its wav the phone will pick it and use where its required. personally i wouldnt use the phone storage for any tones
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I'm not debating that, it's just that there seems to be a lot of confusion and I am positive that the method I posted works...although it is probably better / faster to store tones on the device as data in device memory is faster read then data on the card.
The tones take up SO little memory that...there are no advantages to storing on the card, but you may have slight ringtone delays (disadvantage) if you store on card.

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