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why does gprs stay connected if someone sends me an MMS??

Twice now girls have mms messaged my xda2 late a night and i've woken up the next day only to find that my gprs stayed connected
gprs stay connected if someone sends me an MMS, is this normal??? i want to stop it doing it incase i get a big bill someday peeps. help :?:

not sure about your cellphone company but here i dont pay for minut
but pr MB and being connected dont use MB's
otherwise you could install
www.GB-SOFT.cz/xdaII
it let you mess along with the grps settings like turning off if device not used after X minuts

Mine dose the same. even when i am roaming, but it dose not show on the bill tho....

Re: why does gprs stay connected if someone sends me an MMS?
riiidaa said:
Twice now girls have mms messaged my xda2 late a night and i've woken up the next day only to find that my gprs stayed connected
gprs stay connected if someone sends me an MMS, is this normal??? i want to stop it doing it incase i get a big bill someday peeps. help :?:
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Receiving MMS is done with a GPRS connections, it is usually another APN than the one you use for regular internet access. Because not you but the provider opens the connections, you are not billed for them.
Kids used this "feature" for free surfing... In Germany this hole was closed.
Interesting. Do you have a valid IP and can you make IP connections to Internet IPs when being online with that MMS-APN?
Bye,
PHPat

GPRS Disable / Enable

Is there an app available that will allow me to diable or enable GPRS usage ? I would like to use GPRS when im out and about, but dont want my phone doing things like connect to GPRS if I forget to sign out of messenger when ive been using wifi. When the phone switches itself off, it will connect via GPRS and download any messages emails.
I have put some dummy accounts in to stop it connecting but it keeps coming up with unknown application errors then although it does stop it costing me any download allowance / money.

Anyone ?

knowsleyroader said:
Anyone ?
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Maybe you did not get an anwer because you posted it in friday the 13th
But I want the same.
I am going abroad later this month, and I don't want any program to connect via GPRS.
It just costs too much.
So does anyone have a solution to disable connection by GPRS?

Hi all. All you do is press and hold the call end button for a few seconds and GPRS will be switched off.
knowsleyroader said:
Is there an app available that will allow me to disable or enable GPRS usage ? I would like to use GPRS when im out and about, but dont want my phone doing things like connect to GPRS if I forget to sign out of messenger when ive been using wifi. When the phone switches itself off, it will connect via GPRS and download any messages emails.
I have put some dummy accounts in to stop it connecting but it keeps coming up with unknown application errors then although it does stop it costing me any download allowance / money.
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MACkjam said:
Hi all. All you do is press and hold the call end button for a few seconds and GPRS will be switched off.
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I think you are mistaking the question.
If you press the Call End button for a few seconds, it indeed will end the GPRS session.
For that moment.
But if an application want to connect, it reconnects with GPRS just that easily.
And that's what you are afraid of, when roaming.
I really want to control the GPRS connection, off or on.

I use SPB GPRS Monitor. It adds a Icon to the menu bar at the top. You just tap on it, tap connect, and there you go. You can disconnect also. The program is skinnable as well! Moreover, it monitors your GPRS usage so you know when Vodafone is over charging you
cya

I also use GPRS monitor, but that's not the issue here.
I know how to disconnect, but I don't want GPRS to connect automatically, whatever condition.
Just do not connect via GPRS unless I tell the wizard to do so.

i know how you can do it!!!! Close messager and you will not have the problem!!!!! does not take brains! If you cant do that why the heck do you have a phone like this, which must be really too high tech for you!

ronh said:
I also use GPRS monitor, but that's not the issue here.
I know how to disconnect, but I don't want GPRS to connect automatically, whatever condition.
Just do not connect via GPRS unless I tell the wizard to do so.
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Oh, okay....no clue in that case
The best way would be not to save the password to the connection, so it asks for it each time. That will stop it connecting, but it is inconvenient
Hope that helps

funman said:
i know how you can do it!!!! Close messager and you will not have the problem!!!!! does not take brains! If you cant do that why the heck do you have a phone like this, which must be really too high tech for you!
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Hmm, this is no fun-man.
I ask a normal question, so please give a normal answer.
I have pushmail, newsreader, weatherpanel, Messenger and maybe some more progs who connect automatically over GPRS.
In holland that's no problem because I have a flat fee abo.
But when I go abroad I have to disable each and every application by hand.
(Roaming GPRS is sooo expensive )
So this device is definately not too high tech for me, but I am looking for an easy solution and that's to control GPRS by hand.

One program does it all for you:
Vijay555's VJVolubilis program!
Google search for Vijay555. Go to Releases. He's got a bunch of software written by him (a BIG THANK YOU to Vijay - Viva la ViJay!)
Instructions:
- Install cab file.
- Create a shortcut (using Ilauncher or any other programs that allows you to) and change the properties to wot you need
- In your case, use the properties - -gprson or -gprsoff or -gprstoggle
- You can set one icon to turn GPRS on and one to turn GPRS off in case you're worried about toggling it on instead of off.
Works great for me.
And don't forget to donate to Vijay!
Hope that helps.

Thanx, that's really looking promising.
It seems exactly what I was looking for.
I will test this prog asap.

i have been looking for a prog like this so I do not get price raped when my gprs drops out...I will test it out thanks.

Forcing GPRS to disconnect - O2 XDA mini s

Anyone know how I can force my mini s to disconnect from GPRS after it has checked my email?
Si.

press and hold the red phone button (hang up) for about 5 seconds - you should see it switch from GPRS (small [G] icon) to 'GPRS Available' (large [G] icon)

I'd rather it did it automatically - so I can leave it alone all day and it will connect to check now and again then disconnect.

same problem here. is there a fix?
also when i have forgot to disconnect am i paying for gprs? or is it just any content i download?
cheers.

GPRS is paid for by data usage, not connection... so you can leave it connected (so long as nothing is downloading in the background!)
V

cheers vijay, but have you got a workaround for original question?
on my old c500 when i had finished getting mail it automatically switched itself off.are we missing something?

vijay... unfortunately, at least on my Qtek 9100, there's always some data sent.. very infrequently, but over a day of no activity, the GPRS Monitor application that came with it reported 200KB traffic. So I always make sure to disconnect regardless

ZeBoxx: it doesn't surprise me. At least in theory, you only pay for data transfer on GPRS, not time connected like on dialup. However, I think activesync is an unpredictable beast at bet. I never use GPRS - so for me, to ensure I'm completely disconnected I use a dummy grps account.
futuresbright: I'm working on a set of such tools, but I believe there's already a command line tool to disconnect GPRS. I haven't made one yet that will automatically disconnect after checking email. I have to work on a related app, so I will try to look into the question, but I can't promise any time frame I'm afraid
V

Yeah, the monitor comes with a little icon on the Today Screen with which you can explicitly enable/disable GPRS as well. So obviously it can be done by external software

GPRS disconnect on O2 XDA mini S
If I tap the GPRS icon on the top bar when I have a GPRS connection up, I get an option to disconnect it (and it works!). I too don't like the thought of racking up data calls even though it is supposed to be packets switched not circuit switched.

no worries vijay,thanks for your time.
will just have to remember to switch off manually for now.

How can i turn GPRS off?

My vario randomly connects to GPRS without asking me, i suspect this will be costing me on my bill, so I'd like to turn it off. How do i do that?

my XDA mini s does the same. But it is a WM problem. Let me describe my common situation.
Connected to Wifi, running MSN Messenger. Left device for a while and it went sleeping. It also turns off Wifi! But then when MSN needs to connect in the background, it goes to GPRS!! When I wake up my device, it has already used GPRS for MSN and when it wakes, it tries to connect back to my Wifi!!!!
I'm on roaming so the GPRS is dear-er.
Best way, is to create a null modem, or invalid connection. Set your device to connect to that null connection automatically when requesting for internet access. Not the best, but at least it won't cost you or me.

The thing is it does it when I'm not even doing anything, it just pops that gprs icon up and does its own thing.
OK I didnt quite follow what you said there, so imagine I'm an idiot who dosent understand what a null connection is, then explain it to me again....

Long press hang-down key.... (2-3 sec)

so imagine I'm an idiot who dosent understand what a null connection is, then explain it to me again....[/quote]
lol like your response,
I do agree with Humps, dont know of a way to turn of the gprs but his way does ensure it wont connect on its own.
when you goto settings/connections/connections (this is wm2003 that i refer to) you will see your t-mobile settings.
and the options to manage existing connections. go into here and create a new connection give it anyname you want (you want it not to work) give it any settings it will accept that are wrong,
then from the connections page at the bottom you have tasks and advanced.
when you want GPRS active goto advanced and select t-mobile
when you dont want it to be able to connect go back to the advanced screen and select the dodgy one you just created.
then if it tries to connect the settings will all be wrong and it will fail.
good plan.

I really wish it would ask permission to go online with gprs...personally I changed the name of the access point in my o2 settings, so it can't connect until I change it back to the proper name.
John

Pixel69 said:
Long press hang-down key.... (2-3 sec)
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Even after a 30 second press, it still stays connected with the 'G' icon in the top of the screen.
I've tried setting up a new GPRS called dummy, so I'll se how it goes.

Is it the big [G] icon, or the small G with arrows around it?
Because the former just means that GPRS is available - only the latter means that you're connected to it.

you want to give SPB GPRS Monitor a try, even if only for the trial it will let you know if its using any while its idle,
good app would be well worth keeping in it.

GPRS always auto disconnects after some time

I found a lot of posts where people ask for auto disconnect. My problem is the other way round: When I connect with GPRS after some 5 minutes or so my QTEK S200 disconnects by itself. This might be caused by the cab file MP_autoDisconnect_EnableDRM_prophetUA(AKU2.0)_060112.cab which I found in enhanced ROM?
I don't want to hard reset to see the effect this cab not beeing installed. Any ideas to help???

I have the same problem... lets see if anyone knows how to enable GPRS for longer then only 6 minutes.

I have the same problem... lets see if anyone knows how to enable GPRS for longer then only 6 minutes.

it's because of your mobile operator. i've the same sh.t here. it keeps disconnecting after 5-10 minutes and the traffic rounds up. and i have to pay more... i've a hima, my friend's SE W800 - same crap, keeps disconnecting. i'm sick of GSM networks, they're getting old and do not meet modern speed and reliability requirements. so i'm afraid we'll just have to wait until WiMAX or something else comes to replace an old man. cheers

You might wanna try this from wiki here:
If you want your GPRS (or EDGE) connection to always be on, set the following:
HKLM\Comm\ConnMgr\Providers\{7C4B7A38-5FF7-4bc1-80F6-5DA7870BB1AA}\|gprs connection name|\AlwaysOn = 1 (DWORD decimal)
And to turn it off:
HKLM\Comm\ConnMgr\Providers\{7C4B7A38-5FF7-4bc1-80F6-5DA7870BB1AA}\|gprs connection name|\AlwaysOn = 0 (DWORD decimal)
Note that |gprs connection name| will depend on the name you've given your GPRS connection
I'm on tmobile web n walk, so its a pain to wait for gprs to reconnect everytime.... I've just started using this for about a day, but looks ok so far... try it... see if its the magic ur looking for

zep said:
it's because of your mobile operator. i've the same sh.t here. it keeps disconnecting after 5-10 minutes and the traffic rounds up. and i have to pay more... i've a hima, my friend's SE W800 - same crap, keeps disconnecting. i'm sick of GSM networks, they're getting old and do not meet modern speed and reliability requirements. so i'm afraid we'll just have to wait until WiMAX or something else comes to replace an old man. cheers
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I don't think it's connected to the provider as I know enough people using the same provider where GPRS stays connected a long time. The only difference we have is the PPC. I will try jamichy's solution later this week when I will be back home. In the meantime Craic Dub - does it solve the problem on your side?

jamichy said:
You might wanna try this from wiki here:
If you want your GPRS (or EDGE) connection to always be on, set the following:
HKLM\Comm\ConnMgr\Providers\{7C4B7A38-5FF7-4bc1-80F6-5DA7870BB1AA}\|gprs connection name|\AlwaysOn = 1 (DWORD decimal)
And to turn it off:
HKLM\Comm\ConnMgr\Providers\{7C4B7A38-5FF7-4bc1-80F6-5DA7870BB1AA}\|gprs connection name|\AlwaysOn = 0 (DWORD decimal)
Note that |gprs connection name| will depend on the name you've given your GPRS connection
I'm on tmobile web n walk, so its a pain to wait for gprs to reconnect everytime.... I've just started using this for about a day, but looks ok so far... try it... see if its the magic ur looking for
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O.k. I couldn't wait and tested today. Now the connection seems to stay as long as you do not stop it.
But: It connects automatically to GPRS when you connect the phone to your provider. That's not really what I wanted. In other countries this will create extreme roaming costs.
Any other idea on how to stop this auto connect? Even using phonealarm's "do not start GPRS automatically" does not help, again it starts connecting when you dial in your Phone PIN.

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Seems the Reg Hack is not a brilliant idea... I have setup my device to power off display after 2min... when i press power button to come out of standby, it freezes the device for abt 40 to 50 sec
Its worse when i get an incoming call, the screen is on but does not respond to touch or pressing green button...
So i changed registry back... and bingo, everythings ok again....
But now, i've found another way, a little freeware app that does all I want and more, and you get the option to choose connect gprs on boot or connect when needed... etc... take a look at:
http://www.gb-soft.cz/XDAII/product_gprs_tweak_wm5pe_en.htm
I'm using now, and seems ok

jamichy said:
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Seems the Reg Hack is not a brilliant idea... I have setup my device to power off display after 2min... when i press power button to come out of standby, it freezes the device for abt 40 to 50 sec
Its worse when i get an incoming call, the screen is on but does not respond to touch or pressing green button...
So i changed registry back... and bingo, everythings ok again....
But now, i've found another way, a little freeware app that does all I want and more, and you get the option to choose connect gprs on boot or connect when needed... etc... take a look at:
http://www.gb-soft.cz/XDAII/product_gprs_tweak_wm5pe_en.htm
I'm using now, and seems ok
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Sounds interesting. Still difficult for me to understand what it really does:
- What means "search GPRS [G] on start radio"
- What means "start [G] on start GPRS
- What means "Switch GRPS always On/Off hold till for following connection"
Can you tell me what it does non your side? Im a startting to hesitate trying to many things. I am still not convinced of WM5 - I installed GPS pgrs monitor (on QTEK CD...) which did not work together with phone alarm. And to deinstall was the ususal WM5 hassle, only using sktools and manual deletion of a file after another soft reser I was able to remove it again

Search GPRS ON start radio=gprs connects on startup
Start G on start GPRS=gprs connects when an application needs web connection, and stays connected
Switch GRPS always On/Off hold till for following connection=default settings, connect when needed, then disconnect
Havent had the phone freeze problem, and gprs connects on startup, and stays connected... which is fine for my tariff, tmobile web n walk unlimited gprs

jamichy said:
Search GPRS ON start radio=gprs connects on startup
Start G on start GPRS=gprs connects when an application needs web connection, and stays connected
Switch GRPS always On/Off hold till for following connection=default settings, connect when needed, then disconnect
Havent had the phone freeze problem, and gprs connects on startup, and stays connected... which is fine for my tariff, tmobile web n walk unlimited gprs
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Seems to work flawlessly so far on my S200. Thanks for your help Jamichy!!
The only thing I'am still missing is EDGE in Germany... :wink: