Hi all
Just spent the all day reading and trying to convince myself that i need a 2020...now that that part is done...i still have some doubts 8)
My first doubts were between choosing the p900 and the 2020, the choice is done...so lets move on.
Does the 2020 have a pen that i can use to take quick notes like handwriting (like in the p800/900), i'm an old school 3m yellow sticker addict and i need to grab quick notes every 5 minutes, so that would come real handy. If it's not included (havent seen it in any pics yet) wich one should i get, and does it fit anywhere in the 2020? or do i need some kind of case or something?
Also on the gps side, it would be great to have gps in my car since i travel a bit, wich model is the cheapest (or the better compromise between price / quality ).
Thanks in advance for your help, and I hope to get my 2020 real soon so that i can take advantage of all your knowleadge
Thanks
Pac
Yes a stylus is supplied, you can buy a pen/stylus also, that is a ordinary pen one end and a stylus the other, you can scribble notes on the screen (using stylus) or draw plans etc. If you wish to use the gps anywhere besides the car I would suggest a bluetooth wireless type, the original tomtom bluetooth gps can be had very cheaply on ebay now. If you only wish to use it in car then I suggest a cheap wired version such as Haicom HI-203e or HI-204e, this will come with a lighter plug attachment to power gps and charge your phone at the same time, the lead is also contains the data connection. This type of gps usually use the nmea format at 4800 bps and is compatable with just about all navigation software. I would suggest you look at tomtom version 3, details at www.tomtom.com. There are plenty of others but I think tomtom is the most popular and you can download free software that will warn you of upcoming speed cameras, also there are numerous overlays for locating places like gas stations, airports etc plus free stuff that allows searching by postcode.
Thanks for your help, a month later I already have my 2020....so i'm really part of the club now
Thanks
.....Hi all, Just seen threads as to where you can get the Brodit cradles for the exec/Jasjar and now the new xda mini s etc from...........
Just letting you all know I have the Brodit XDA etc passive holders available for sale and the active charging versions too.........passive are £20.00 inc 1-2 day postage, special delivery at £4.99 by arrangement.
The active ones across the xda range are between £36.00 to £45.00 depending on model 1-2 day postage inc. (add £4.99 for pre arranged guranteed next day delivery) Not all older models are in stcok every day, so email to check is helpful so you not disappointed.
if you also need a brodit pro clip for your car, I have those also for £17.00, inc 1-2 day postage, or again £4.99 next day. or a gooseneck for £16.00,with Brodit compatible face plate.
I have most car makes for the pro clips in stock, if not I can get them sent direct next day.
PM if you wish to ask any questions or order one, via paypal.
Cheers all,
Bryson
www.dsldevelopments.co.uk for cradle search and pro clip search & online purchase.
Without trying to not to sound like a prick, but is the active holder, just the same holder but with a car charger, or maybe a car carger that maybe fixed to the back of the mount with a little lead you plug into the usb charging socket. By fixed i mean just to make it look neater, there is no power into or out o the holder
Hope that makes sence
John
i'm interested if it offers any GPS power plug in addition to everything else, this way it will be extremelly useful.
thanks.
The Brodit kits available are' passive ' only, as in they only hold the Exec, no inputs for chargers via the mini usb, and no one has yet built a product for a wired GPS or even a dual charging unit for Exec and GPS charging, as in the old arkon style kits. (wired GPS will not yet work via mini usb on the exec)
These are simply passive holders, where you use a cigarette lighter with usb port to mini usb to charge the device(using the supplied cable from o2 or buy an additional usb to mini usb lead)
The active holders are simply as above, but they have the cigarette lighter point to mini usb built into the cradle.........
hope that helps!
Just ordered mine... I'm trialling it for the company in my own vehicle whilst hoping our code monkeys can get our fleet / task management system working on WM 5.
Stand by for updates and photos.
Would you please post a picture of the holder.
Thanks
Report on Pocket GPS World here:
http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=30758
Hi Again,
Had a lot of enquiries, and stocks running low again, so need to know if anyone wants any so I can increase order from Supplier. They really do look and feel great, had the first few satisfied customers for this holder.
Thanks again
Are yours the modified one that now have a left speaker slot as shown on the above PocketGPS link, or do they have the speaker covered, muffled and therefore reducing in-car volume for SatNav considerably?
I was one of the first official suppliers in the UK, I got the 1st shipment a few days ago. Not heard of this as an issue on the ones installed, and certainly not in my car, but I have re-ordered additional stocks so after the posting on http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=30758 this has been rectified by brodit
Thanks, but sorry, it's not clear if the ones you now have in stock are rectified or not? :?
sorry for the confusion, as I stated, I had one of the first deliveries before this issue was noted by Brodit. My stock is exhausted of the 1st versions (no dual speaker hole) My new stock on order, due in next week has the modification.
JJ mount
Hi Bryson
Can you also send to the US ?
I would like to buy one from you. It seems like I can't get it anywhere in the US.
I would like to have the new one (with the hole for the left speaker).
How do I order ?
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Hi Bryson
Can you also send to the US ?
I would like to buy one from you. It seems like I can't get it anywhere in the US.
I would like to have the new one (with the hole for the left speaker).
How do I order ?
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US orders: www.proclipusa.com
I can ship to the USA no problem, but i suspect the cost of shipping might be expensive compared to sourcing internally. However, happy to help if you need it.
Thanks
Proclip USA does not currently have any of the Jasjar/Exec mounts in stock. Only the K-Jam ones. Probably because the Jasjar is primarily a European device. I asked them and they do have some on order and may be in later this week.
Heard from Brodit, production started last wednesday on the new stock, inc official release active holders. Availability to the UK should be some time late this week/early next. This means deliveries may take a few days more than hoped from me. Sorry.
What about Me?
Hey Bryson,
M8, im from India and i am intrested in buying a pda holder for my i mate jasjar + mounting kit (i dont want to make holes in my car). Now, will this whole kit be compatible with my car ford endevour (SUV..indian make)? how much would it cost? I have 10- 15 people who are looking to buy the same thing. please help.
Nish
Hi Nishant,
Ive sent you some details via PM, please let me know what you think,
Thanks again,
Bryson
PS To ALL - I now have the Gooseneck mounts available if you prefer that to Proclips for the Exec/Jasjar etc cradles, again, PM to enquire. Thanks!
Hi All again, furhter to PMs and messages I now have stock of the Brodit ACTIVE Exec cradles and still Passive cradles available.
Please PM me if you are interetsed.
Many Thanks
Bryson
Hi guys,
just thought i'd post this message up on the forum in case anyone is looking for a genuine o2 Xda Exec, unlocked and standard in the lovely black case....
I am selling this on ebay soon as i have just bought a mini s instead.
The exec comes with all original o2 packaging, cables and cd's and has the latest t-mobile rom installed with no extended rom so the ext_Rom can be used for storage.....
i'm looking for around 400 quid on ebay but would accept offers over 300 from anyone here.
pm me if you are intested, the auction will be posted up probably monday.
well, got my mini s this morning.... apart from the fact it doesn't take sd cards and i'll have to buy a mini sd card,
ITS SO COOL...
Gonna put my exec on ebay on monday
Re: "Just bought a mini s to replace my exec brick"
Next time you'll perhaps buy the correct device in the first place? Were you not aware of it's dimension before you bought it?
Really?
Next time you'll perhaps buy the correct device in the first place? Were you not aware of it's dimension before you bought it?
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I just looked at the specs, could not go into a shop and look at the device as i got it before it was released in the o2 shops....
Don't get me wrong, the device is the best bit of kit around at the minute but because i have to use this asmy main phone, it's just too big and awkward to use.
anyway, got me mini s now and it's just so cool..... i guess i'll miss the vga screen, but i can live with that especially if pocketvcs works on this device,
cya
What if someone released a bluetooth headset that you HOLD that looked exactly like a Nokia 8800?
Nah, still think the mini s is better than the exec all round, okay it's processor is not as fast, it does not have a vga screen and does not support 3g but apart from that, it's perfect for me.
just look at the amount of people who are swapping their exec's for mini's on this forum, you don't see many people swapping their mini's for exec's.....
lets agree to differ on this subject and close this thread..... don't forget i've still got my exec and compared to the mini, it's just too big and awkward to use as a regular phone. sorry
Steve,
Most interesting post. I have recently been thinking of doing similar.
I love my exec but simply cannot stand using it as a phone. I have a decent Jabra headset, however still feel very odd using it. I think we all knew the size of the thing before buying, however thought we'd all 'cope'. Well I tried and now I'm bored of coping.
Plus, I'm sure I'm not the only one who has felt very vulnerable when having to use the brick in public.....let's face it, it is an expensive bit of kit and having to flash that screen when in close proximity to an apparent 'undesireable' is no fun......
Another point to add would be to come clean about just how much of the Exec's features I use. I am probably the least technical person on this board. I use my exec as a phone, for my emails, for my diary (where it is INVALUABLE, due to my shockingly bad memory...), to occasionaly go on the web, for my contacts.....ummm...think thats it. I have no idea what VGA is, 3G is great but only for speed (never used video phone yet). A quick game of solitare and I'm done. Oh ok and a few songs and games, but hey doesnt the mini do all that?
Would be very interested to hear of your progress with the mini.
Cheers
HPJ
I think that there are many people who will swap an Exec for a Mini and for most of the reasons stated above. I'll keep my Exec because I really bought it to replace my XDA2s for the 3G data speed. I'll put up with its faults & foibles because it gives me high speed internet access pretty much wherever I am. The VGA screen is a bonus too.
I have to agree that while I appreciate my JasJar as an internet connected PDA - it is just impractical to use as my main phone. I too knew the specs before I bought it - but knowing the specs and carrying the device are two different things. I guess this has been building with me for a while though - this is not the first PPCPE device I have owned - first there was the iMate (HTC Himalaya) and then the iPaq 6315 (what a disappointment!) and then the JasJar (Universal). I guess in the end convergence is not as important as comfort and convenience.
So - I added a new line to my account for my JasJar and bought a Motorola PEBL (which fits NICELY into my pocket) to use as my main phone. The JasJar is connected as my internet device and the PEBL is only used for phone calls. I am a very happy man!
Well guys, an update on my mini s experience.... perfect, small, compact, and does exactly what my exec did (apart from the bells and whistles) in a nice small bo....
now, a big pain in the ass with the exec was that i could not get my favourite emulator (pocketvcs) to run, thought it was a vga thing as it ran on my himalaya with wm2005 installed, so when i got my mini s, the first thing i did was install this....
guess what, it still didn't work
gutted, dunno what i could be, if some one could reverse engineer it, that would be cool as the author does not seem to respond to his emaila anymore.
for all those psople pondering the idea of ditching the exec for a min s, like me, DO IT !!! YOU WON'T REGRET IT unless you 3g or want to strain your eyes running the exec in true vga mode..... also this thing fits into a standard mobile phone car holder
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for all those psople pondering the idea of ditching the exec for a min s, like me, DO IT !!! YOU WON'T REGRET IT unless you 3g or want to strain your eyes running the exec in true vga mode..... also this thing fits into a standard mobile phone car holder
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...Or you could have the best of both worlds by keeping the Exec and getting a high spec feature phone (I use a Sony-Ericsson K750i with my Exec) to use alongside it.
You are right that the Exec is too big to be a main phone but it is absolutely the best connected PDA on the market. And lets face it, there's no WinMob device on the market that comes close to a decent Sony-Eric, Nokia, Motorola, or Samsung for battery life, call quality, Bluetooth profiles, and other core phone functions like being able to send contacts by SMS.
I've used a variety of smartphones (MS, Palm and Symbian) and PDAs (MS and Palm) and keep coming back to the fact that convergence creates more problems than it solves.
For you guys that use dual device (a decent cell phone combined with Universal), how do you handle SMS? Can you use the native built in Universal/WM5 SMS messaging software to send and retrieve SMS via another cell phone?
For connectivity like GPRS or 3G, I guess you can set that up in the Universal so that it will use that cell phone for the connection.
Otherwise, it means we have to have 2 SIM cards, means 2 accounts, means double to pay...
When I was in Asia, I found out that pre-paid SIM card is extremely cheap so that everyone can buy it easily. Not here in the US, very expensive to maintain 2 accounts...
I agree with most things you guys said about the Universal. I myself have retired my Universal for a week now. I have switched back to my old Wallaby, which I consider much more natural for handling calls and most simple PDA things I need. My Wallaby is very easy to carry to almost any environment I have to be, compared to my Universal. The Universal, however, its very nice device to use whenever I'm at home or office environment.
I used a mini before for couple of weeks. Which one do you guys have right now? Is it the old Magician or the new Prophet? How's the Prophet's performance and speed?
I have tested Universal last December and enev though I loved device and features, at least for me it's unusable as a phone. Don't get me wrong, I used Himalaya for 1,5 year as my only phone and PDA, but I really wanted smaller device.
I got a Wizard as my phone and PDA to replace Himalaya, but in a moment of weaknes I also bought Universal. I don't use it as a phone or even as a PDA, but it's a nice mini Notebook/Tablet that I use for browsing and more "computer" stuff, like Word processing, Excel...
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For you guys that use dual device (a decent cell phone combined with Universal), how do you handle SMS? Can you use the native built in Universal/WM5 SMS messaging software to send and retrieve SMS via another cell phone?
For connectivity like GPRS or 3G, I guess you can set that up in the Universal so that it will use that cell phone for the connection.
Otherwise, it means we have to have 2 SIM cards, means 2 accounts, means double to pay...
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I personally do not use SMS much, but regardless of whether they send the SMS to my phone or JasJar, I will reply with my JasJar. I have software that synchs my PEBL with my Outlook contacts as does my JasJar, so I always have the same phone numbers in both - that makes it easy to reply to those in my contacts, which is most of the people I communicate with.
I do not know of a way to communicate from my JasJar through my PEBL - I do not believe it is possible - So . . .
As to two accounts, yes - I have two SIM cards, two numbers and more cost. It is not exactly twice as much though, since I was able to strip everything but a reasonable amount of minutes from the phone account and only have an internet plan on the JasJar account. It is a bit more, but not twice as much. The upside is that since we here in the States still have to use GSM/GPRS I can now talk on the phone at the same time I am running terminal server or some other communication-intensive application on my JasJar (one radio, one connection). Very Handy!
lie_ui said:
For you guys that use dual device (a decent cell phone combined with Universal), how do you handle SMS? Can you use the native built in Universal/WM5 SMS messaging software to send and retrieve SMS via another cell phone?
For connectivity like GPRS or 3G, I guess you can set that up in the Universal so that it will use that cell phone for the connection.
Otherwise, it means we have to have 2 SIM cards, means 2 accounts, means double to pay...
When I was in Asia, I found out that pre-paid SIM card is extremely cheap so that everyone can buy it easily. Not here in the US, very expensive to maintain 2 accounts...
I agree with most things you guys said about the Universal. I myself have retired my Universal for a week now. I have switched back to my old Wallaby, which I consider much more natural for handling calls and most simple PDA things I need. My Wallaby is very easy to carry to almost any environment I have to be, compared to my Universal. The Universal, however, its very nice device to use whenever I'm at home or office environment.
I used a mini before for couple of weeks. Which one do you guys have right now? Is it the old Magician or the new Prophet? How's the Prophet's performance and speed?
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I do all my SMS from the K750 as I'm pretty fast with T9 and SMS by definition has to be short.
I'm pretty sure there is software out there lets you manage your SMS on a standard pocket PC (i.e. not phone edition) over Bluetooth.
I keep the Exec for PDA/Computery stuff like Pocket Informant, browsing with PIE, email, Excel, Word, Powerpoint, TCPMP audio/video, and TomTom. I find the big keyboard and screen are excellent for these functions. In fact I tried to use my old iMate Jam for a weekend away when I didn't want to risk losing my Exec and I found that I HATED going back to the small screen and stylus.
Steveae:
Having had the mini for a few days now, whats the deal with the slower processor?? Is it noticeable?
I know it will be slower, but in you opinion is it a hindrance?
Cheers
HPJ
PS as-new exec for sale shortly if anyone's interested....UK only pls.
Well, I'm pondering the purchase of a soon-to-be-released P990.
I do wish the Trinity was coming out soon. 3G and WiFi are essentials as far as I'm concerned, but I also find the Uni a bit cumbersome so I want something smaller, and losing VGA and the keyboard is something I'm willing to do...
Even a Muse would do, actually. When's that out?
I love my Universal. I came from an HP h6340, so i'm sure you'd understand.
And sorry, after using a VGA device, It would never EVER be justified for me to buy a QVGA one. I just recently opened my H6340 and compared the 2 screens. I just couldn't believe i managed with QVGA for 1 year and thought the display was BEAUTIFUL!
Actually, I really wanted a VGA PDA/Phone and there was only one choice for this.
No complaints from me. I even had a Nokia 9000.... Yes the Black and White PDA Screen. Now THAT was a brick, this is sleek compared to that device.
Whell.... for me this is it at the moment as far buisness management on the go goes although it has a few limitations at the moment due to under development at the moment and the network signal strength stinks compared to £30 phones you can buy now days and i wouldent even complin about its size (already knew what i was getting anyway) if it wasnt for all the other flaws with it at the moment like btooth, battery, poor range on wireless and again poor network signal quality..... I have upgraded the radio rom but that was about it and cant be bothered to keep messin around with hacks since a reliable buisness tool is what i need.
Im waitting to grab a SE p990i until i consider ditching this.
BR
well what can i say, group of unhappy uni users eh...
Just thought I would butt in and put my two bobs worth....
I love it. Love everything about it. The size isnt an issue for me, I dont get embarrased easily, I dont mind holding the phone to my ear, I dont care that it doesnt have an external screen, i am either available and take the call, or I am not available and dont take the call, dont need to hide from anybody.
I love the keyboard, I love the clam protection of the screen, I love the quasi screen, I love 3G data speeds, I love the qwerty keyboard, I love the WIFI, I love SD cards, I love the camera facility, I love the video facility, I love the hacks, I love the custom software installed.
I would like more memory, and more storage, but that is all. I thought I was getting 128mb of RAM and 128mb of usable storage, but other than that, I manage well.
We all make mistakes, we all have different choices and needs, but if you didnt get the hint.... I love it. I think the main thing people need to think about in all of this is whether they wanted a phone with PDA functions, or a PDA with a phone function. Mine was the latter. My wife was the former, so we both sold our XDAII's she got a phone, I got the Uni.
Cheers and happy PDA'ing.
Hi, I'm thinking on buying ORA Car Pack
http://www.mobileplanet.com/p.aspx?i=153768&asource=151727
They sell it for 27 dollars. Does anyone own this? Can someone give me a recommendation? I want to buy a cheap carkit for my kaiser, with 12v power included. I want to have it glue to my car dashboard or to my windshield with a vent mount.
Thanks in advanced
In the past I also bought car kits made for that specific PDA I owned by that time. The problem though is that - during your "PDA-life" - you spend a fortune on this so I decided to go for some "general" system like Brodit or Richter (see http://www.mobileplanet.com/p.aspx?i=156824). The advantage with this system is that you only have to replace the actual PDA holder rather than the complete system when you get a new tech toy - which is also less expensive.
I'm very happy with the Richter system now since quite a number of years.
Christian
Well interesting point of view but the ORA car park system, seems to be a universal type of holder and would as such suit their owners in case of pdas change
I'm curious about return of experiences too.
About that ORA system, but also about the Arkon CM799 http://www.mobileplanet.com/p.aspx?i=147464
which would seem to suit the TyTN II too.
As I'm thinking of having the Kaiser into some kind of hard plastic or rubber protector case, I think it's best I stay away from specific to the TyTN II car kit since the phone would be to thick to hold in the especially designed systems.
One question for you Eurybia though : does the adapter you got for the Richter system allows to have the ability to have the Kaiser keypad opened or closed at will ?
Thanks !
I dont like Arkon product. I bought an active charger before, but after not more than 5 months, the "spring" to hold the PDA was loosen (not tight anymore).
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One question for you Eurybia though : does the adapter you got for the Richter system allows to have the ability to have the Kaiser keypad opened or closed at will ?
Thanks !
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Nope.
And even when I think about this feature now I wouldn't miss that anyway. In times of bluetooth, voice dialing and more or less mainly GPS usage in the car I wouldn't use the keyboard while driving anyway. For me the most important thing is that the unit is fixed properly in the holder so it won't drop between the seats or alike even on rough roads.
My eyes are too bad and my fingers too big to play distant-mice-piano anyway.
Anyway, nor the arkon active holder nor the brodit (or Richter ) active holder costs 27 dollars. So I asked again to see if anyone owns one of this or if someon can recomend an active holder carkit for more or less the same price.