The title is ambiguous enough that it can techically be argued that it belongs in the upgrading forum (since it's about upgrading) or the WM2005 forum, since it's about WM2005, and this forum, since it's asking an opinion petaining to the Himalaya. so if anyone feels it should be relocated, argue it out, or move it if you have the power.
OK, so basically, I currently run my Himalaya with 2003SE, running TomTom 5, and MMS/SMS with all the other default features in use such as calendar, bla bla...
However, WM2005 does look rather attractive and so I was wondering if it was worth upgrading to it, and if there's any special considerations I need to bear in mind, or if anyone has an opinion why I should avoid it, or indeed embrace it, then I'd be interested in what you have to say.
I would also like to know what improvements WM 2005 brings. And if it doesnt work can I bring back WM 2003 SE by hard resetting my device ?
I installed it, nothing like firsthand experience.
you can revert back by flashing 2003(SE) back to the PDA.
personally, I think it's certainly worth trying, just set yourself up with a RAMdisk, or you really waste space
Try it, I love WM2005, it runs smooth as hell on my device! Everything works flawlessly.
i have this cd where i placed all the programs and apps that i use or would like to have on my xda. anytime i'm forced to do a hard reset i simply reinstall them. the only app that doesn't work with my upgrade to wm2005 is animated today...then again i did write to the developer and they said they're working on getting an update for wm2005 compatibility. so the only thing you might encounter is an app that doesn't work right with wm2005 since it was originally designed to run with older rom versions (like se). and it's been 3 or 4 months since i did my wm2005 upgrade; haven't done a hard reset yet as everything is stable.
other than that i think wm2005 rocks. buzz, xda2jojo, toenailed, and toflock are among those who did an incredible job in bringing wm2005 to the xda2.
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I use to have a XDA 2 (well, SPV M1000) and (the important thing) a folder named "My XDA 2 must have". The software I use most, the software to backup, the software to keep not only to try. Like:
1. Sprite Backup
2. Visual IT Rough Guide to London (like A-Z map to central London + extras)
3. Splash ID
and not last
4. TomTom 5 .... and others that I miss already.
And THEN, here it is, I waited so long for it, (Exec) that I decided to switch from Orange, to O2, (Orange don't have this even now). Three days of "testing"...Well the device is great....Windows 5 isn't. (At least for me.)
My folder (My XDA 2 must have) is now "The software that doesn't work on WM5" ...None of the four named programs work...it takes ages to charge, it's slow, everything has changed...and how about that 'program' included "Clear Storage"??!!!
I thought it was something like remove programs, not a bloody HARD RESET!
Everything seems to say about Windows 5.....WHY FIX IT IF IT AIN'T BROKEN??!!!
BTW: Does anybody know a decent Wi-Fi Connections Manager that WORKS?? (Hitchhiker crashes my Exec, Retina Scanner wants to know what my socks size is when registering, Wi-Fi Companion Doesn't Install in WM5.........)
I am glad I didn't sell my SPV M1000 yet....but I want to....I love the Exec, but hate what it does...or rather what it doesn't!
..............helps us all !!!
You seem surprised that a major version upgrade (WM2003 to WM5) comes with occasional problems. Didn't we see the same when we changed from Windows 3.1 to Windows 95?
Later versions of desktop operating systems have some backwards compatibility built in, but with the limited resources of the PPC platform I guess they couldn't achieve everything.
We may not know what they are yet , but I'm sure WM5 has built-in features that drive the platform on another big leap and over time we'll take them for granted. I looked at my XDA2 last night (now two days-worth of dust gathering on it) and was reminded how fast it responded to commands, but it looked dated already compared with my shiny new Exec.
Don't forget, we're early adopters of WM5 and we're always going to have problems. When ROM upgrades are released and developers get new versions out for us, we'll wonder how we ever lived without it!
In case you haven't seen it yet, there's a thread running over at www.tekguru.co.uk listing the software that works perfectly on WM5. I found it useful when looking for replacements for my old WM2003 versions.
I have #2 and #4 working (for #4 you need TT 5.1 - d/l the update from their site)
Reinstall from fresh I reckon. And you are using activesync 4 not 3.8 still?
I agree with SiliconS.. I'm always wanting the very latest of everything (hardware and software) and to be honest, I'm surprised how good windows mobile 5 is!
There are many problems, like icons disappearing and speed etc..but they're not life threatening.
I only hope that the providers are going to keep up with the developers and release their specific patches..if not then I'll have to convert to the Jasjar rom :shock:
I love the MDA PRO even with it's problems.
Thanks for the help guys. I'll try these options as well.
BTW, anyone has any problems with the AvantGo software?
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#1 Try googling : Sprite Backup v3.2.0 build 2487.
Should be working with JJ.
Best of Luck. :wink:
mosesJJ said:
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#1 Try googling : Sprite Backup v3.2.0 build 2487.
Should be working with JJ.
Best of Luck. :wink:
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This is real? had you used and work with restores?
Thanks.
From the Sprite Backup developers website:
"Sprite Backup is only compatible with devices using Windows Mobile 2002 and 2003. Windows Mobile 2005 devices cannot use Sprite Backup. We will be releasing a new version that will be compatible with these devices in the near future. Please keep visiting this site for updates."
I did try the version you mentioned but no luck. I use a Exec not a JJ...coud that be it? Thanks anyway...and damn I need a backup program...[/quote]
Here I am after another whole day of reading forums, installing and uninstalling, hard resets, trial and error....and things like that.
As far as the XDA is concerned....I feel better about it now, installed SPB Pocket Plus (works a dream), SPB Finance (great 'cuz it syncs with Quicken), and most of all, swiched to "Corporate" mode...and man, it is FAST now !!!
As mentioned before, Sprite Backup doesn't work, AvantGo works but not as it should, SplashID....nope. I did try eWallet, which works ok on the desktop but not on the XDA.
It's all good fun though.
Grogo said:
swiched to "Corporate" mode...and man, it is FAST now !!!
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I'm thinking that I might go for a hard reset and choose Corp, but I don't know how to set up the GPRS details. How did you get GPRS working for Corporate Mode, or haven't you needed to?
I do find the settings for all these connections v.confusing. I just want it simple, like my laptop! One connection does all...
Now that you mentioned that, I wouldn't know if I need different setting yet, as I am still on Orange for the next couple of days until they port my number. Interesting to see if it works though.
I've tried today the GPRS, G3 connection and it worked without changing anything. (In Corporate mode)
IS there much difference in performance running 5.2 instead of 5.1 on the Universal?
Is there any difference at all?
This new version has the following new features and improvements:
Improved phone functionality for your device.
TomTom NAVIGATOR is now compatible with Microsoft Windows™ MOBILE 5.0 devices.
http://www.tomtom.com/support/category.php?ID=3&Language=1&FID=3361
Don't know if i may post it here. but check this out:
http://rapidshare.de/files/8475711/TomTom_Navigator_update_V.5.21_cracked.rar.html
excellent stuff, been waiting for this, but i cant get it to work, where do i place the cracked exe???
stf06 said:
This new version has the following new features and improvements:
Improved phone functionality for your device.
TomTom NAVIGATOR is now compatible with Microsoft Windows™ MOBILE 5.0 devices.
http://www.tomtom.com/support/category.php?ID=3&Language=1&FID=3361
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Thanks. But TT 5.1 works fine on my EXEC without any problems already. I was wondering if there is an actual difference in experience? Because I dont want to fix what aint broken unless there are new features or a performance improvement, etc...
So has anyone with the 5.2 update installed experienced any significant improvement please??
tyl said:
Thanks. But TT 5.1 works fine on my EXEC without any problems already. I was wondering if there is an actual difference in experience? Because I dont want to fix what aint broken unless there are new features or a performance improvement, etc...
So has anyone with the 5.2 update installed experienced any significant improvement please??
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Just tried the cracked one, and I can't see a difference against 5.1. The screen still draws visibly slowly and the UI is still as limiting and unsophisticated as ever.
I can't see any benefit in upgrading if TT is working already for you.
Looks like TomTom will be waiting a while longer to get my upgrade fee. I'm happy to upgrade legitimately from my legitimate v3, but I don't consider it to be a viable option at the moment. TomTom seem to have lost their way on PocketPC software since they are apparently unifying the software to match their TomTomGO platform. Sadly that leaves those of us with sophisticated multi-purpose devices wondering why we can't have the flexibility of version 3, in which we could keep the Windows Taskbar on the screen and actually use the damn operating system at the same time!
Not good, TomTom. Not good at all. :evil:
Thanks SiliconS.
You have no choice but to wait for the upgrade as I can't find any link to do this on their web site. Does anyone know of any other way of upgrading?
I have version 3 & I refuse to buy version 5 other than through an upgrade.
Mike
I have paid for the upgrade, but the cracked version saves having to mess around with their annoying registration system.
I find the UI clean and elegant. It allows you to quickly do what you need, without fuss. It also makes switching from other TomTom's (Go etc) easy. I find version 5 far better than 3. The maps are much improved too and include all of Europe. Easily worth the upgrade price.
(The screen update is slow in landscape mode, but fine in Portrait.)
i got this (on the wizard) and i still get the same backlight turning off when running it problem. and the hex edit doesnt work with this exe (well not the same values anyway)
thefunkygibbon, you need to hex edit the exe and find the 4 instances of backlight and change them to bbcklight.
Works great on wm5.
hack done
Tomtom 5.2 with hexa change
I have noticed no difference in operation over 5.1
The only change I can see is that it installs via active sink (sic) and ignores the instruction to install to the SD card by placing the application in RAM :evil:
not working correctly
this works for me but cant get any voices to work (i put them on the storgae card from original disk)
it will not find my gps either any ideas
clive
sparkyxda said:
I have noticed no difference in operation over 5.1
The only change I can see is that it installs via active sink (sic) and ignores the instruction to install to the SD card by placing the application in RAM :evil:
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Yea, those bozos at TomTom excelled themselves again, didn't they?
http://www.howardforums.com/showpost.php?p=6309013&postcount=9
Apart from what was said on Howard Forums, which I agree with (clueless TomTom devs!), the update seems to add the ability to install without having to copy the CABS onto the phone.
Apart from that, no difference. If you start it up in landscape mode, it'll run in portrait mode.
One other hint that TomTom are clueless idiots - the compatibility list shows the Jasjar and the MDA Pro as being compatible. However, when I requested an activation code from them they insisted the M5000 was not compatible. They wouldn't accept that the M5000 and the XDA Exec were the same hardware and base image!
In tomtom V5.21 better bluetooth management and u can install directly by activesync with WM2005. For the voices you must to install with the original disk and then you can choise the voices otherwise copy tomtom directory contain the voices in "my documents"
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Apart from what was said on Howard Forums, which I agree with (clueless TomTom devs!), the update seems to add the ability to install without having to copy the CABS onto the phone.
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Precisely. Activesync install was the one obvious thing they had to fix, and they cocked it up. Funny how every other WM5 developer in the world seems to manage it.
Apart from that, no difference. If you start it up in landscape mode, it'll run in portrait mode.
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Precisely. Broken landscape mode. No support for soft buttons. So what's this magical support for WM5? Everything works the same (or doesn't) as in 5.1.
One other hint that TomTom are clueless idiots - the compatibility list shows the Jasjar and the MDA Pro as being compatible. However, when I requested an activation code from them they insisted the M5000 was not compatible. They wouldn't accept that the M5000 and the XDA Exec were the same hardware and base image!
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Clealry, TomTom employees are a complete bozos, and their management couldn't give a sh*t because they've got your money. No wonder people are so keen to rip them off.
kojiro said:
u can install directly by activesync with WM2005.
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Yes, but the morons f*cked up the code so it won't install to the Storage Card. One CAB doesn't ask, the 2nd CAB asks but ignores your answer. So unless you move everything by hand with File Explorer, that's 3MB of your precious main memory wasted. Don't forget it's your money that's paying them to write that crap.
tomtom xda exec
i cant get voices to work or my bt gps helpppppppppppp ,ripping my hair out ive tried all the socalled fixes but no goooood any help would be really great thx
I have a Verizon XV6700, but am quite new to PocketPC scene. I was wondering if anyone could tell me if there's an WM6 update out there that is compatible with my phone. I've found some of the WM6 roms, and know how to go about installing them...but I haven't found anyone saying they have upgraded an XV6700. Any help would be much appreciated.
This site is alittle encouraging...
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/verizonwireless/default.mspx
seeing as how it shows my phone running Windows Mobile 6
Thanks,
Chris 3D
Have no message about APACHE'S wm6 come out, or any schedule. The MS pages just shows apache that runs WM5, not crossbow.
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That's because there are no WM6 ROMs for Apaches. The highest weve gotten is to WM5 AKU 3.5. With this there are some programs from WM6 included but that is about it.
There is some hope that now that the Mogul is out we might be able to get a WM6 working but I wouldn't hold your breathe.
but what if we got a copy of WM6 and tried to load it in the Apache? Would it work? Ive got an extra apache i have been using for testing.......i wonder if I........
There is no generic "copy of WM6" you can get that will work on the 6700. Any copy you find is for any of 100s of different hardware - putting it on your hardware may kill your hardware, or at best just not work.
Just wait, or if you want to help go to ppcgeeks dot com, where helmi_c is working with several folks to bring updated roms to the 6700 (thanks helmi!)
I think?
My apache just got upgraded to WM6 by a fellow xdaer. I am now in love with my pda all over again. My montra had been it is not a good phone and it is not a good pda. It works just not even as good as my xv6600 with ppc2003 on it. It doesn't hang up nearly as much with 6 vs. 5. It seams to work great, better than WM5. Finally I have voice activated dialing again after a hiatus of 4 years! I am actually making this post while looking for the source info that was used refrenced in xdadev.com. Happy hunting I'll try to find my way back here if i find the info.
I just got the xv6700 after having the treo 700wx.
Can some please give me a step by step on how to get wm6 on the device?
Do I download the apache thing directly to the phone and then do the boot mode?
Thanks
I would also like it if someone could post a step by step way on getting WM6 to the xv6700
WM6
for all apache owners who dont kno it has been developed by helmi_c
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=11074
this is for you guys who dont kno
WM6 for verizon
check out ppc geeks apache upgrades...helmi_c...I've found the latest version works, but you have to be very spartan about your choices of apps. It gets weird if you select too many items and you really don't have any clues other than your apache consistently screws up, i.e., performance declination, programs not functioning as intended, anything that takes away from your machine doing what it is intended to do.
I've loaded the same rom 3 times and all three have behaved in thier owm unique way. I'll be more specific if anyone is interested.
Suffice to say the 3rd time was a charm. I only soft reset maybe twice a week. I do have to be aggressive in my memory management.
Have fun.
KW
Hello!
Who can tell me how to disable the automatic integrated windows mobile memory managment! I wanna set the programm memory by myself!!!
thank you
welcome to the forum.
this memory management is part of wm2003 and not present in any OS beyond that, because they don't use the ram as storage space anymore. maybe you want to have a look into the blueangel wm6 section and into the newer builds released there, maybe you'd want to kiss wm2003 goodbye after all, that would solve that problem and many more you maybe didn't even know you had
like for instance that hardly any 3rd party software supports wm2003 and many new features are possible with windows mobile 6.5.
another thing is, look at my post, i just adviced you on how to bypass your issue, not solve it. you will face that all the time with wm2003, it is just not supported anymore, because we all have the possibility to run the new OS, so why bother with the old one. it is like windows 7 coming out and every one is thinking about that and you ask about windows 3.11
maybe this didn't help you much, but you should have a look, whether windows mobile 6.5 is an option for you and then re-post and i can guide you on how to get there. it might seem complicated in the first place, but it is definetely worth the effort
I have a Pro 2 and on January 20th, T-mobile will have the upgrade from WM 6.1 to 6.5. I've only had this phone for a month but have been using and programming iPhones for 4 years. There is always problems upgrading the iPhone, this includes apps that just won't work after. Could this happen if I upgrade the Pro 2? I have the phone now working better then my iPhones. I have every app I had on the iPhone that I need and I now even have flash thru Skyfire. Is this upgrade (given by my carrier) going to give me problems? Will the upgrade be that much better? I'm worried.
Let me know at [email protected]
John C
If you installed the apps on your main memory, then you will have to install them again, .. and every tweak you did on the main memory than you have to re-do it
in terms of applications compatibility there are no known issues (to my knowledge) in upgrading from WM6.1 to WM6.5
I would think you would need worry about which TF3D you have, and which one you will have after upgrading. That could throw a wrench in your themes.