I am looking for a good backup software to save all the files and configuration between Hard Resets or ROM Upgrades, for Windows Mobile 5, thanks
I've seen several people on here recommend Sunnysoft Backup Manager. I've just now downloaded the trial, so I haven't had a cance to try it yet, but it does look to be very configurable. Since there's a free trial (14 days) give it a shot and see if it fits your needs.
http://www.sunnysoft.cz/en_clanek.php?clanekid=51
I have tested the Sunnysoft Backup Manager. It does backup and restore my Wizard, but only for files and programs. All my PIM data are lost. :?
BTW, The "Data Backup" program seems to work in the Dell x51v WM5.0 machine. Could anyone extract it from x51v and try if it work in HTC Universal or Wizard? :?:
kelford said:
I've seen several people on here recommend Sunnysoft Backup Manager. I've just now downloaded the trial, so I haven't had a cance to try it yet, but it does look to be very configurable. Since there's a free trial (14 days) give it a shot and see if it fits your needs.
http://www.sunnysoft.cz/en_clanek.php?clanekid=51
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if you rename the file pim.vol (located in the root directory) to something like pim.vol.old and then do a soft reset and then start the restore, your pim data will be restored too.
Wolfgang
Yeah. Your idea works! It works even I just rename the pim.vol and start restore without soft reset.
Thanks a lot.
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if you rename the file pim.vol (located in the root directory) to something like pim.vol.old and then do a soft reset and then start the restore, your pim data will be restored too.
Wolfgang
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Sorry,
but why should the software backup my PIM-data ?
Just do a sync .. and they are there.
- Superbowl
Superbowl,
I don't trust outlook and otoh I'm on the road a lot of times without any chance to sync my data. So a local backup/copy is very helpful.
I had already some hardresets (not with the MDA Pro, but with other devices) without knowing where they came from and I was really happy to be able to restore my device in the hotel.
Wolfgang
but the "other devices" were doing a hard reset everytime u were running out of batteries, that s why it was usefull to have the contacts saved too.
Now this does not apply anymore.
I would need to restore my Data only after Rom upgrades, which i would prefer doing it on my home computer.(which has the contacts synchronized in outlook).
backup software
I am using sprite backup for a long time and it is amazing. I believe it is far better than the sunnysoft. At least 4-5 times faster.
It is reliable and restoring the state % 100. Morover scheduled or battery level dependant backups are available, too.
From Sprite Backup Website :
http://www.spritesoftware.com/en/personal/products/windows_mobile/pocket_pc.htm
"Windows Mobile 2005 devices cannot use Sprite Backup. We will be releasing a new version that will be compatible with these devices in the near future. Please keep visiting this site for updates. "
I missed WM 2005 part !!!
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can someone please help me to get sprite back up v3 to work on my xda2. my aim is to backup my device to my PC. it either freezez my xda2 or hard resets it!!!
thanks a lot
Only after I bought Sprite 3.0 I found out it doesn't work properly. In my case, V3.0 erased my SMS after a restore! Solution? According to Sprite SOftware, they working on it. In the meantime, this is what I did:
For the first Backup
- Make an executable (.exe) backup file and save it to Storage (permanent storage on your XDAII). It will be a slightly bigger file
- BEFORE you run the back up (UNselect e-mail option and click on the (+) sign next to System Data, then again on (+) File System and again on (+) Prgogram Files.
- UNselect Arcsoft box
- Then run the backup. You need to do the executable file only once
For daily backups, save them to a storage card.
- BEFORE you run the back up (UNselect e-mail opetion and click on the (+) sign next to System Data, then again on (+) File System and again on (+) Program Files.
- UNselect Arcsoft box
- Then run the backup.
To Restore
- Run the executable backup file first
- Then do a soft reset
- Run Sprite and restore form your last daily backup file
It anly sound akward, but it worked for me!
PS: You will loose your e-mail account settings and all its folders' contents. But I found that I could live with this. It's better than having to reinstall all software to your XDAII again!
..like walking on thin ice!
hey michael..thanks for the details.. but sprite backup seems to hate xda2..
is there a way to back up to pc with this workaround? can i use the same approach but pc as the destination?
any news when sprite will release the new version?
anyone knows of another backup sw that backs up xda2 to PC?
thanks
Hawk
I hate to be arguementative - but I am using Sprite Pocket Backup v.3 with my imate and it is working perfectly. It even restores my SMS!
Are you sure you are not using ver. 2.X which did have the SMS restore problem?
I've tried with my xdaII , the sms inbox was restored OK, but I have some problem after the backup restored. I never received SMS anymore.
don't know why....
so I never used it again.
i'm using imate with rom 1.72 and sprite backup v3
Hey Brian
Can u please give details about yr device, e.g rom etc. and installed applications.. i never got to to work on the imate. please give some details on if u were able to backup to pc?
anybody know of any program that backs up imate to pc?
thanks
Hawk
On my MDA2 SpriteBackup crashes! (automatic backup timed at 23:55 everyday) Looks like some file is in use and Sprite is not able to backitup and the whole backup process is stopped. So on my MDA2 backup has NEVER finished!
I'm using backup in ActiveSync - I have it set to automatic mode - everytime I put my MDA2 into the cradle, it synchronizes with outlook and then does FULL BACKUP.
And I'm sure this kind of backup works well - I restored my MDA many times after hardreset from ActiveSync's backup and everything was always OK.
hawk -
Your second question first - Of course you know that ActiveSync can backup your PPC to your PC (Tools -> Backup/Restore). Also, Sprite Backup ver.3 can backup to your PC as well - it can install a tool in your system tray to run the Sprite Backup PC Service.
I had version 2.X of Sprite Backup and experienced the SMS service failing to receive messages after a restore. With ver. 3.0.0 I have actually restored my imate after an unintentional HR and SMS worked perfectly thereafter.
Now, for my configuration:
imate with ROM Ver. 1.72.00WWE
1GB SD card
VITO Voice Dialer
PHM Registry Editor
MS PocketStreets
m-possible Backgammon
HP Mobile Printing
Zendrui PocketZenPhone
Syntact GameBox
Sprite Software Sprite Backup
Sprite Software Space Detective
Sprite Software PocketMon
Spb Pocket Plus
Mobimate WorldMate Pro
MS Cubicle Chaos
Laridian Pocket Bible (with 10 Bible translations)
Laridian Daily Reader
Illium Software eWallet
Total Commander
Adobe Acrobat Reader 1.0
A.Khogo tAgenda
SSnap
IDiff
I also have the drivers for the Stowaway keyboard installed.
It's pretty well loaded!
hawk said:
can someone please help me to get sprite back up v3 to work on my xda2. my aim is to backup my device to my PC. it either freezez my xda2 or hard resets it!!!
thanks a lot
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What version? I'm using spritet 3 v1517 without issue. Email and SMS restore correctly. The only conflict I've found is using GPRS monitor.
I had the same problem with the earlier versions of Sprite Backup too. After restoration, my XDA will have a complete blackout on SMSs. So i have decided not to install it again.
BRosenow, is your Vito Voice Dialer the PE version? I can't seem to get the non-PE version to work tho.
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I hate to be arguementative - but I am using Sprite Pocket Backup v.3 with my imate and it is working perfectly. It even restores my SMS!
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Likewise, I have no problems on my Xda II - mine does an automatic, self extracting backup every morning at 08:45 to my storage card. They always come back completely, sweet as...
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BRosenow, is your Vito Voice Dialer the PE version? I can't seem to get the non-PE version to work tho.
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Yes, it is Voice Dialer PE v3.0.
Sprite Backup
I'm using it with my XDA II and no problem. I restores everything as it was. Using Sprite Backup V3.0.0 build 1517.
I don't backup to my PC but to a SD card.
Regards,
Mark
whats the reason to backup to a pc using something like Sprite
over just using activesync's pc backup restore option ?
i understand the sd card backup but not why people use it on pc's
If I'm not wrong ActiveSync backup from PC gives problems with restore after a ROM upgrade.
Maybe that's the reason. I agree with you. It has no additional value.
Mark
I use Sprite to backup my imate to my laptop from time-to-time, just in case something were to happen to my SD backup (loose the SD card, backup files become corrupted, etc.). Considering the little time and storage space it takes, what's the harm in having a little insurance?
And I use the Sprite backup to PC because it takes about 2 min. for a full backup . . . can ActiveSync do that?
nah
with ms you get what you pay for since activesync is free is slow can be
a full backup prob take about 15->30min
i prefer to use the same program 1. to backup to sd card & pc for compatiblity reasons in order to exchange files if needed, 2. sprite does exe files 3. activesync may not restore to a newer rom properly.
the funny thing is some people are using sprite with no problem, others like me are just going thru hell to make it work.
on sprite's support they mention something about stopping some processes in windows\startup\
tried that too, didn't work.
can anyone diagnose the problem with the inconsistency of the results from one person to the other and definite solution?
Hawk
Maybe the ROM version that differs! Sprite Backup works for me fine. See my ROM version below with my signature.
My startup folder contains:
AFlashman, BTTrayCE, CFlashMan, CheckAutorun, ChgDFLnk, IA_Caller_ID, MMREG, NFlashMan, poutlook, stk, Symantec Antivirus, TFlashMan
Mark
Markutah wrote:
If I'm not wrong ActiveSync backup from PC gives problems with restore after a ROM upgrade.
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Well . . . you need to be VERY selective of which files you restore after a ROM upgrade anyway. You cannot do a full restore (from a full backup) after a ROM upgrade, because .exe and .dll files (and others) will be restored, replacing the newer versions. This leaves the device in a state that is somewhere between the two ROM versions and will cause all sorts of problems.
You should only restore documents, email and personal databases - not system data.
I'm looking for a backup solution, so I think I'm going to buy sprite backup. Any advice? Does it work fine with TyTN?
yes, it works with tytn.
I have and works fine for me.
Regards.
I can't find a trial version, does it exist?
If we compar SPB Backup and sprite, pros and cons?
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I can't find a trial version, does it exist?
If we compar SPB Backup and sprite, pros and cons?
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i was looking for a trial version of this as well but unfortunately sprite does not offer anymore trial downloads because some users somehow abuse the trial software......ive read that sprite backup also has an excellent feature where you can restore your backup file even if you have changed or reflashed to a different rom......
Sounds nice, but nobody has a feedback about SPB Backup?
I use SPB backup and found no problems with it at all. I normally make a backup to storage card SPB backup creates the backups as a executable file. Even if I have to do a hard reset on the road I can just double click on the backup exe on the storage card and everything is fine and dandy (not that I ever needed to do a hard reset on the Trion. Just did it a couple of times for testing purposes). I tried a old version of Sprite Backup where there was a expiry period and found it was a bit more complicated as the backup file was not a exe so you needed the original software on the card and even with that the registry settings were wrong on the Hermes. I heard that this isn't a problem and you just change your settings for Sprite Backup to create exe backup files. All in all I think that both programs are about the same. I just got SPB backup as part of the SPB bundle as SBP plus, Diary, Weather, GPRS Monitor worked great on the Trion. Especially when you want to know how much in call charges your making.
Hi ozziede,
Thanks a lot for your great feedback.
One more point: doest SPB backup work fine when you upgrade your ROM version for example? Can you restore easily?
My vote on SPB Backup. No #1 Choice.
Trying is Believing!
I never did a full restore after a rom upgrade. I only upgraded my rom once from german to the english version and I deliberately only did a selective restore as I expected problems moving from a german rom to a english one. Eg names of the program directory is different. I did a restore of my emails and contacts and some files in my documents and that seemed to work fine. I dont see any problem with Spb but someone else can confirm the restor of registry and programs after a rom upgrade.
Found Trial version of SPB Backup
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taron said:
I can't find a trial version, does it exist?
If we compar SPB Backup and sprite, pros and cons?
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i was looking for a trial version of this as well but unfortunately sprite does not offer anymore trial downloads because some users somehow abuse the trial software......ive read that sprite backup also has an excellent feature where you can restore your backup file even if you have changed or reflashed to a different rom......
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Handango has a trial download for SPB Backup.
I have two universals and would like to clone the second one with the first one. Kind of like ghost that creates an identical image.
I don't want to go through the tedious process of having to install everything from scratch.
Also, using a backup program is a bad option, they just restore files/registry and stuff. They don't restore the system state (i.e. if file deletions are to be made they won't do it, they will just restore files not on destination machine or replace existing with newer version)
but they will not like delete stuff that I don't want. For example I have a special arrangment of program groups. Using a backup program and then restoring it will leave the initial windows program groups and stuff, and would just append to it my new groups rather then delete all groups.
I tried XDA_Tools but it's probably only working with old models because it didn't work with my universal, couldn't read or write any image.
Anyone's got a solution I could use for cloning a device state to another one ?
I've used spb backup for this, and dont really understand the problem you have with backup programs.
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I've used spb backup for this, and dont really understand the problem you have with backup programs.
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Backup programs do not restore to system state and are far from giving an identical replicated, like you have ghost on PC.
For example, you backup your PPC deleting many rubbish and your program groups look all different, you got rid of many redundant jpg files and rearranged your program groups the way you like it.
Now, you take this backup and restore it on a nother brand new machine, what you will get is a setup of what that machine looks brand new and IN ADDITION you will get also all the program groups and stuff that were restored from the backup. So you end up with much garbage that exists after a hard reset. An image of a machine is byte wise, not file wise and so it gives an identical copy of the machine, that why Norton Ghost was invented for the PC as well as many other programs.
I am looking for such a solution that would allow me to deploy the SAME system on more than one universal.
SPB Backup does exactly what you are looking for on my Exec.
If I hard reset and restore a FULL backup made with SPB (about 11Mb usually),my Exec is identical to before the reset.
Even stuff that I have deleted from the Rom is gone.
I would definately give it a try.
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SPB Backup does exactly what you are looking for on my Exec.
If I hard reset and restore a FULL backup made with SPB (about 11Mb usually),my Exec is identical to before the reset.
Even stuff that I have deleted from the Rom is gone.
I would definately give it a try.
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Thanks, I'll try that.
Use SKTOols 3.0, Spb Backup 1.5 or Sprite Backup 5.1. Read / search my blog on all thes ethree programs - I've elaborated on and compared them all.
Hi Everyone,
Which Backup program do you use? Is there one you recommend? All this hacking my Cingular 8525 around has had me hard-reset at least twice within the last week. I need a good and reliable backup program since installing all of my software is taking me over 2.5 hours of time.
Thanks for responding.
ADP
spb backup has never let me down.well worth trying.
sprite also gets good reviews but I've never used it.
read http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=1270&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1
I've tried different backup programs with my TyTN.
I found that the only perfect working program is SPB Backup.
I've already restored my data after hard reset with this program (not once) and all is good.
i use spb also, works great
I vote for spb as well.
Although keep in mind that it only does back up system settings and core software installed in device (not sure what exactly), not the whole file system of your PDA. My problem was, I deleted some files and uninstalled some programs after backing up, and after restore they were not there! (just blank icons).
I would love to mirror my whole device on PC hard drive, yet I am not sure about software for this purpose.
how well does spb backup perform when you do a ROM upgrade?
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how well does spb backup perform when you do a ROM upgrade?
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Whatever backup product you use, DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT applying a backup from a different ROM version. You're asking for serious trouble.
Simply put, if you update your ROM, you're also plan on reinstalling everything clean from scratch...
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I vote for spb as well.
Although keep in mind that it only does back up system settings and core software installed in device (not sure what exactly), not the whole file system of your PDA. My problem was, I deleted some files and uninstalled some programs after backing up, and after restore they were not there! (just blank icons).
I would love to mirror my whole device on PC hard drive, yet I am not sure about software for this purpose.
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Mobile Deployment
Deploy an identical policy based corporate image to all your mobile devices. From the original creators of the industry leading Symantec GhostTM cloning solution, Sprite Clone provides rapid and reliable deployment to multiple mobile devices thereby assuring consistency and cost effectiveness...
http://www.spritesoftware.com/sprite-clone
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Whatever backup product you use, DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT applying a backup from a different ROM version. You're asking for serious trouble.
Simply put, if you update your ROM, you're also plan on reinstalling everything clean from scratch...
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Sprite Backup works perfectly with ROM and DEVICE upgrades.. I switched from my Wizard to my Hermes without any problems..
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how well does spb backup perform when you do a ROM upgrade?
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Use Sprite Backup in this case, it'll work unless you try to cross-restore between AKU2.x and AKU3.x. And please DO read my above-linked article; in there, I've also elaborated on this very question.
bobstarina said:
I found that the only perfect working program is SPB Backup.
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Strange you had problems with the otehr alternates (Sunnysoft Backup, SKTools 3.0, Sprite 5.1). Are you sure you tried the LATEST versions of them? It's only lately that, for example, Sunnysoft Backup received REAL WM5 support.
Also please read the Backup Bible I've linked in above if you need more info on all these questions.
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Sprite Backup works perfectly with ROM and DEVICE upgrades.. I switched from my Wizard to my Hermes without any problems..
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Both of you are correct. Sprite DOES work great in most cases, except for restoring AKU3 content under AKU2 and vice versa.
does restoreing after a ROM upgrade using Sprite also keep your current registry changes as well...or do i have to do all registry hacks all over again...or even after just a hard reset not a ROM upgrade do i still have to enter the reg. edits all over again....
Sprite works well for me
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does restoreing after a ROM upgrade using Sprite also keep your current registry changes as well...or do i have to do all registry hacks all over again...or even after just a hard reset not a ROM upgrade do i still have to enter the reg. edits all over again....
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It will restore your registry changes too. Otehrwise, it wouldn't work at all with a lot of third-party apps that also use the Registry to store their stuff / settings.
Does anyone know if Spb backup will back up outlook notes?
Sprite is the only one worth getting since you can restore after a ROM or device change Just make sure you RTFM before you go changing anything as there are things you need to do before hand
Interesting to hear that Sprite Backup works without problems for all of you. On my TyTN, when it wants to reboot before beginning a backup, the TyTN gets stuck at the Windows Mobile screen. Removing/re-inserting the battery usually allows the boot process to finish - but only until the next reboot. After that, all subsequent reboots show that behaviour, no matter if initiated by Sprite Backup or otherwise. And very strangley, after a day or two this phenomenon disappears slowly. A hard reset fixes the problem immediately - at least until I re-install Sprite Backup or restore an (executable) backup I made earlier.
What's even more strange is that this seems to be reproducable, even across different ROM versions. I saw that first with the O2 Germany ROM my Trion came with, and also after I updated to the south-african WWE ROM.
Cheers
Daniel
Hi all,
If I upgrade the ROM on my Orbit 2, can I use my latest Sprite Backup to restore my personal settings after upgrading?
If not, what settings will I need to manually replace:
e.g.
1) Contacts, appointments, etc. - via activesync
2) Copilot / Tomom - from original SD cards
3) Network settings - using "Connection Setup" program
4) ...
Am I missing anything? I'm worried that after upgrading the ROM I will spend days getting everything back to normal!
At first, you will spend an hour getting everything back to normal. Then, when you become addicted to flashing roms, you will master the "reload" and it will still take an hour (or close to it). I know with PIM backup (as indicated by the name "PIM"), you can only restore appts, sms, email, contacts, phone logs, tasks and the like. Not sure about Sprite but I'm sure you can't do much more...
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Hi all,
If I upgrade the ROM on my Orbit 2, can I use my latest Sprite Backup to restore my personal settings after upgrading?
If not, what settings will I need to manually replace:
e.g.
1) Contacts, appointments, etc. - via activesync
2) Copilot / Tomom - from original SD cards
3) Network settings - using "Connection Setup" program
4) ...
Am I missing anything? I'm worried that after upgrading the ROM I will spend days getting everything back to normal!
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The full last version of Sprite Backup (6.x) provide an "upgrade" mode that should allow a user to restore all his data after a ROM update (without touching the OS part). I never tested it as in my concern I spend less than one hour to fully reconfigure my Polaris after a ROM upgrade. But I'll be interested by all experience sharing with tools like Sprite Backup.
Please check directly to Sprite web site for more informations and welcome back with your findings that I'm sure, will interest more than myself
academic said:
The full last version of Sprite Backup (6.x) provide an "upgrade" mode that should allow a user to restore all his data after a ROM update (without touching the OS part). I never tested it as in my concern I spend less than one hour to fully reconfigure my Polaris after a ROM upgrade. But I'll be interested by all experience sharing with tools like Sprite Backup.
Please check directly to Sprite web site for more informations and welcome back with your findings that I'm sure, will interest more than myself
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I have used it before on my Artemis and believe me, it's crap. Just an backup works fine but when you have switch to another rom, forget about it. Some apps work decent, most of then not. (80%) The only thin you can do to be sure you can go back after an Flash is to dump you're own rom.
It hangs on me
Sprite hangs on me when I want to restore Bepe 0.53 full backup after flashed back to 0.53 from 0.66. I am trying all the ROMs version to see what is best for me and so far 0.53 is what I called baseline for me. It took me only 2 hours to reconfig my device but the damm sw hangs and I waited much longer than that. When it finished, the device does not boot and I have to do a hard reset.
Sprite is crappy so does spb backup. I have not found anything works!
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Sprite hangs on me when I want to restore Bepe 0.53 full backup after flashed back to 0.53 from 0.66. I am trying all the ROMs version to see what is best for me and so far 0.53 is what I called baseline for me. It took me only 2 hours to reconfig my device but the damm sw hangs and I waited much longer than that. When it finished, the device does not boot and I have to do a hard reset.
Sprite is crappy so does spb backup. I have not found anything works!
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Thats the point. All those back-up progams work well but now when you flash your rom. You really need a dump of your rom to get back to original. For the rest, SPB, Sprite And whatever back-up apps work all well if you just want to play around with apps and return if you don't like them.