Database Users

So you want to hide your system tray?

Why? Because it useless and it ocupies a line of space that could be used by a today plugin!!!
TrayDisplay is what you need!!! Built with ATL C++, it comes in two files:
HideTray: that makes tour system tray invisible;
DisplayTray: that makes tour system tray visible!!
It makes a shortcut on your \Windows\StartUp folder so that everytime you reset your PPC, it will hide the tray!
When the file is run, it makes it's job and then end's so that it doesn't stay in memory.
This file is not a patch, but an application!
Only tested with Windows Mobile 2005, don't know if will work with WM2003...

OK,
nice idea but doesn't work on W2003 SE, at least not on mine. Also no effect after soft-reset.
M

I doesn't work on my 2003se device (Imate jam) either

can anyone post a link to this program? i cant seem to find it anywhere at all ;-(

ok n/m found it lol, just had to sign in lol

ei99070 said:
Only tested with Windows Mobile 2005, don't know if will work with WM2003...
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well, please tell me, where you are running WM5 on Magician, when it doesn't exists?
or is this just posted in wrong forum?
;o)))
buzz

I know I've seen another tool for hiding top-&bottom bars somewhere on the web. Cannot remember where, but it had to do with 'xx% larger screen'. As I don't mind having the bars I didn't pay much attention to it. I specially like the top bar with date/time & spb gprs icon. But taste is personally. So you'll have to search yourself when you really want this.
M

OK found it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=27331&highlight=screen

buzz_lightyear said:
ei99070 said:
Only tested with Windows Mobile 2005, don't know if will work with WM2003...
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well, please tell me, where you are running WM5 on Magician, when it doesn't exists?
or is this just posted in wrong forum?
;o)))
buzz
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Yep, wrong forum Should have been the universal (posted there after)...

use WISBAR ADVANCE DESKTOP. works with WM2003SE, guarantee. and the latest version can hide to top bar aswell~!!!! so, 100% of your screen can be filled up with your favourite wallapaper :lol: :lol:
the application is ok, never crash.

erwinsie said:
use WISBAR ADVANCE DESKTOP. works with WM2003SE, guarantee. and the latest version can hide to top bar aswell~!!!! so, 100% of your screen can be filled up with your favourite wallapaper :lol: :lol:
the application is ok, never crash.
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He he...that's mildly spoken :lol: With WA2 & WAD ( WAD is WA2 dependent ) you have total, and I do mean total control of your today-screen(s) and yes. you can have more than one... :shock: Now you can have all your favorite today plug-ins in each their own screen, full screen ! You can make your own short-cuts to any application, and place it anywhere, and that's only the beginning. The possibilities are endless, please do take a look :wink:

Flipside said:
erwinsie said:
use WISBAR ADVANCE DESKTOP. works with WM2003SE, guarantee. and the latest version can hide to top bar aswell~!!!! so, 100% of your screen can be filled up with your favourite wallapaper :lol: :lol:
the application is ok, never crash.
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He he...that's mildly spoken :lol: With WA2 & WAD ( WAD is WA2 dependent ) you have total, and I do mean total control of your today-screen(s) and yes. you can have more than one... :shock: Now you can have all your favorite today plug-ins in each their own screen, full screen ! You can make your own short-cuts to any application, and place it anywhere, and that's only the beginning. The possibilities are endless, please do take a look :wink:
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WAD and WA2 are two master pieces that will breath new life into your Pocket PC. The UI will look stunning if you get good skins and graphics .
Definetly agree with you, Flipside. Endless posibilities

Problem
The problem with these tools is they consume a lot of system resources and slow your machine down.

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littld said:
The problem with these tools is they consume a lot of system resources and slow your machine down.
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That's not entirely true anymore... Naturally the more you "fill" in, the more memory you lose, but it's def. not the program itself...But if you look at what you actually get here, the little memory you lose is a very small price to pay... ( I have like 16 different pages running, with dock and icons, plug-ins and text-objects, and the memory loss I can measure is app. 6 mb ) In my book that's nothing compared to what this program has to offer, my magician is almost stylus-free, and that's really neat when I'm in my car etc...

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Flipside said:
littld said:
The problem with these tools is they consume a lot of system resources and slow your machine down.
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That's not entirely true anymore... Naturally the more you "fill" in, the more memory you lose, but it's def. not the program itself...But if you look at what you actually get here, the little memory you lose is a very small price to pay... ( I have like 16 different pages running, with dock and icons, plug-ins and text-objects, and the memory loss I can measure is app. 6 mb ) In my book that's nothing compared to what this program has to offer, my magician is almost stylus-free, and that's really neat when I'm in my car etc...
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Can you show us a screenshot please? I like the idea of "stylus free". Anyways, here's mine.

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kta said:
Can you show us a screenshot please? I like the idea of "stylus free". Anyways, here's mine.
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Sure you've shown me yours, so here is mine, almost stylusfree :wink:
BTW I've kept a couple of pages to myself, you know, private stuff

Don't know why the gif looks weird when I upload I preview, and things are good, but something is definitely wrong....have tried numerous times now... :?:
I can post single screenshots if anyone wants a closer look or an explanation ....

I installed traydisplayinstall.cab , Tray disappeared -- but space can not be used :-(
[HTC Uni, WM5]

Nice program.
I just found it, and it works fine on WM6.5.

Speeding up WM5

Apologies if this has been covered before, found these settings on another website (http://smartmobileassets.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b=winmobile,m=1132411511)
Have they been tried and do they make any difference?
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\FATFS\CacheSize=0x1000(4096)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\FATFS\EnableCache=0x1(1)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Filters\fsreplxfilt\ReplStoreCacheSize=0x1000(4096)

Yes they work!
Yes they work beautiful on my Jasjar, the device is noticeable faster in all the applications.
Thank you!
Rodrigo Gonzalez

Cache settings, hum... how safe is this?? I take the chance and test them

Morituri said:
Apologies if this has been covered before, found these settings on another website (http://smartmobileassets.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b=winmobile,m=1132411511)
Have they been tried and do they make any difference?
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\FATFS\CacheSize=0x1000(4096)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\FATFS\EnableCache=0x1(1)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Filters\fsreplxfilt\ReplStoreCacheSize=0x1000(4096)
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hi. please could you tell me is i need to insert the full value "0x1000(4096)" or only one of them? thank you,

Just one, one is the Hex Value the other is the decimal

Morituri said:
Just one, one is the Hex Value the other is the decimal
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so for ex in hex 0x1000
sorry but registry is like crystal...

Just one, one is the Hex Value the other is the decimal

Yes, "0x1000" in Hex is identical to "4096" in decimal. Put whichever one you want into the relevant registry entry.
I've messed about with these registry settings too, but in all honesty I haven't noticed any difference in performance....

sub69 said:
but in all honesty I haven't noticed any difference in performance....
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me too...

But as darkdestroyer says in the other sites forum...
Yes i've done this since it was first released on Aximsite by another member. At first I had 8 mb allocated, but i guess 4 is the best number. The PDA right after a soft reboot is still the same speed, but after you have all of the shortcut's/programs run once, they will be put into ram and the following run's of those same programs/shortcuts will be much much faster. This is indeed a great find and should be standard with WM5
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No changes in the performance of the device.
The only change is battery draining faster than the original settings.
I've done these changes before and had to reflash the ROM again to my device.
I don't see any need to make these changes, and I don't advise any one to do them.
Regards,

These registry settings have been reported to increase performance by many users on different forums, some using the Dell Axim x51v ,BA users and even some Universal users and are even incorporated into tweaks2k2. My advice is to try them for yourself and make sure the changes are actually being applied after a soft reset and then perform some tasks on your device (see the post by Carnivor) and then make your own judgement. No one so far has reported any negative impact apart from a small reduction in program memory. The changes can always be reversed if needed.

Carnivor said:
But as darkdestroyer says in the other sites forum...
Yes i've done this since it was first released on Aximsite by another member. At first I had 8 mb allocated, but i guess 4 is the best number. The PDA right after a soft reboot is still the same speed, but after you have all of the shortcut's/programs run once, they will be put into ram and the following run's of those same programs/shortcuts will be much much faster. This is indeed a great find and should be standard with WM5
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Erm... so is this registry tweak adding cache memory to the system for running applications then? So that .exes or .dlls that are loaded when a program is run are available more quickly to the system next time they're needed?
If so (and I can't quite believe that this could be the case ), are we now recommending that we allow programs to stay resident in memory to speed up the machine?
... much like the standard PocketPC "Minimise, not close" behaviour that people seem to hate so much?
LMFAO if so! (and please tell me I'm wrong if not! )

SiliconS,
You are absolutely wright.
The proof is that after making the registery editing the application when opened for the first time it does not open on a faster way than the original settings, but when you open it for the second time it opens faster that the first time.
The appications remain opened in the phone memory and reduces the devices memory and the battery life as well.

Microsoft's WM5 development team must be LTFAO when they read stuff like this. People spend hours complaining and looking for ways of forcing the system to properly close apps using MagicButton or PocketPlus, and complain when their WM5 machine runs slow.
Then someone comes along offering a way of speeding things up by caching programs and files in memory!!
Am I the only person who thinks this is utterly bizarre?
Oh, man. MS must be laughing at us. :shock:
(No offence intended to anybody - I'm just amused by this. )

So, if you are running something like GSPocketMagic, Magic Button, etc, which actually close applications properly, all you are doing is reducing the amount of memory available to run programs with no gain whatsoever?

Well I made the changes and found no improvement in speed, but it was worth a try. In the light of what has been said, I'd like to change back the settings, but can't remember what they were!!!!!
Can someone post up the original values please

Here they are:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\FATFS\CacheSize=0
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\FATFS\EnableCache=1
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Filters\fsreplxfilt\ReplStoreCacheSize=0

Many thanks - all sorted

Guys, these registry hacks work! If you haven't been able to get them to work you may have missed a step or two.
First of all, Windows Mobile 5 already holds running information in the RAM, so these tweaks do not truly change that but they do enhance it to make the WM5 device runs MUCH better.
I've have had a TON of people comment and e-mail me about these changes both on my site and many others about how well these tweaks work. In fact, I don't think that the developer of Tweaks2k2 would include that in his latest version if it didn't work.
Couple things; you have to either cycle the power on your WM5 device or do a soft reset from a software app only! Cycling the power will write anything in RAM to ROM, in this case the registry settings you have just changed. If cycling does not work you should soft reset your device using a software app. I think there are a couple free apps to do that but you can also use SPB's Pocket Plus or others. If you just hit the reset button on the back after making the changes it soft resets right away without writing RAM content to ROM.
You can check this by looking at your registry settings after a soft reset to see if the changes took.
I have still noticed that sometime after a reset my device will still run slowly but it isn't because of these changes. In fact, most of the time it is perfectly fine and MUCH better than it was before the changes. MUCH!
Be sure to also turn off error reporting and do the activesync hack to keep those from draining battery and you should do well.
Again, many have made these changes and seen a very significant improvement in performance.

Magic Button square "X" and "OK" buttons

I have installed Magic Button 2.0 build 51023 on my HTC Wizard with WM5 AKU2.2. I really like the size of MB, but I have one question. The "OK" and "X" buttons are round like WM2003. I would like to use the square buttons that are standard on WM5. Does anyone know how to do this. I would guess that Wisbar and all the variants would have the same problem, but I am not sure. Any help would be appreciated.

I tried Magic Button on my Wizard and didn't like it.
I'm now using InClose
http://insoftwarehouse.com/downloads/index.php?l=en
I find it much better...it's free...and it's got a square icon!

Thanks ianmann. I haven't tried InClose. The soft reset feature is a nice bonus. I will try it out.
I just noticed, the cab file is over 800KB in size :shock: . That is almost 10 times the size of MB. I like the task manager to be in ROM for responsiveness. Thanks for the advice, but I think I will stick with MB. Does anyone know of a way to change the close and ok icons to the original square icons?

thanks for the app

Try wClose 1.1
There is an app wClose that is 8.5k :shock: in size, you should try-it.
Closes apps
Fully costumization.
Read the readme file.
Ah and its freeware.
http://www.pocketpt.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=8586
or direct download
http://www.pocketpt.net/forum/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=3961

iainmann said:
I tried Magic Button on my Wizard and didn't like it.
I'm now using InClose
http://insoftwarehouse.com/downloads/index.php?l=en
I find it much better...it's free...and it's got a square icon!
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I've tried both. Magic button, as said, doesn't seems to fit the WM5 theme well. As for InClose, my unit seems to have problem with it that, my Picture and Video aren't working properly (no thumbnail) after it has been install. You might want to double check yours.

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RuiMg said:
There is an app wClose that is 8.5k :shock: in size, you should try-it.
Closes apps
Fully costumization.
Read the readme file.
Ah and its freeware.
http://www.pocketpt.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=8586
or direct download
http://www.pocketpt.net/forum/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=3961
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RuiMg - wClose is EXACTLY what I was looking for. All I needed was something small that closed instead of minimized. I never would have found it since I am an American and thus foreign language-challenged :wink: . Thanks a bunch. Now if I could just get the really thin battery meter that went across the top that was part of MB, I would be set. I think I saw it in a forum here.

Mmm I'm going to give Wclose a try as well. Although I do like the way you can set exclusions on InClose so some applicatiions...like contacts and dialer..open faster. And on my device InClose takes less than 170k.
I'll suggest a battery meter....Batti...seems accurate and easy to see
http://pda.jasnapaka.com/
Edit: And you're right...my Pictures and Video didn't work either...so InClose is out the window.

I tried right now wClose as suggested, and works great... very small and you can't notice it. Thanks for the suggestion.

Athena/Ameo Tray Applet...

Hi all. Need some help please. I had recently used the 'hide' TrayApplet program but after uninstalling Spb Shell, decided that I could do with it being back, but don't want large icons on my Today screen again.
Hkey_Local_Machine\SOFTWARE\HTC\TrayApplet
above I found the links to each of the icons in the tray and can successfully point them to programs of my choice. Great!!
No! The links now work a treat, but the old icons remain the same (therefore hard to distinguish what does what until you tap it).
Does anyone know how to or where the registry entries are for the icons in the TrayApplet? e.g when I tap on the web n walk icon, I now get my configured Internet Explorer, but no associated icon.
Any help appreciated.

No one here hot on Reg-editing? Tried looking at the Universal wiki and their Reg hacks, but it most of it seems to be filed using different naming conventions and some alternative methods.
In any event. The above post shows where the links are (in seperate folders)....which can be permanently deleted and will then remove them from the TrayApplet.

Thanks for the info. I am still trying to decide what to do with the tray on my phone.

Try this cab file.........i'm using it on my Ameo now. It creates a programe in your programe folder with which you can turn on/turn off your tray applet as you wish. Hope it helps
Sorry MACKABY007, never read your firsy post correctly oooops

thank you!
neildunne said:
Try this cab file.........i'm using it on my Ameo now. It creates a programe in your programe folder with which you can turn on/turn off your tray applet as you wish. Hope it helps
Sorry MACKABY007, never read your firsy post correctly oooops
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SWEET!!! Now I can change my mind as often as I wish!!!! YEA BABY!
Thanks for the post bro.

neildunne said:
Try this cab file.........i'm using it on my Ameo now. It creates a programe in your programe folder with which you can turn on/turn off your tray applet as you wish. Hope it helps
Sorry MACKABY007, never read your firsy post correctly oooops
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No probs neildunne..at least you tried to help.
And someone else has benefitted from your answer.

Is there a simple regedit to enable/disable the trayapp?

Yep there is
Yes you can do it manually.
Go to HKLM\init and create a strin Launch92 and give it the value TrayAp.exe. When you want to remove it delete the key.
Can somebody post the HTCHomeplug plugin so I can use this one instead of the taskbar?

WA3 will solve it.
I'm happy. God is listening.
System Tray Features
* Added the ability to place program icons on the system tray.
On the screenshot above, you'll see icons that don't normally appear on the system tray. WisBar Advance 3 now allows you to place icons on the tray as a "quick launch" bar, similar to iLauncher and several other software packages.
Get it here:
http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11258

hide tray
hello!
can I simply remove the tray? can I put the hidetray somewhere when e boots up it removes the tray?
tried on \windows\startup with no sucess..
best regards,
Deiota

WA3 still rocking...
Deiota said:
hello!
can I simply remove the tray? can I put the hidetray somewhere when e boots up it removes the tray?
tried on \windows\startup with no sucess..
best regards,
Deiota
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Yes you can in Wisbar Advance 3...still in Beta, but well worth a look IMHO.

Please can you help me doing it with WA3????
What do you mean by "but well worth a look IMHO"...
Best regards,
Deiota

Deiota said:
hello!
can I simply remove the tray? can I put the hidetray somewhere when e boots up it removes the tray?
tried on \windows\startup with no sucess..
best regards,
Deiota
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I too would like to remove this tray bar at the bottom. I dont like it and cannot find how to remove it on my X7500.
I know how to do it on my universal, but the registry is not the same.
Any light on this would be greatly appreciated
Thanks
Adam

Anyone? I am using WAD right now but I do not appreciate how slow it run in comparison to not using it.

neildunne said:
Try this cab file.........i'm using it on my Ameo now. It creates a programe in your programe folder with which you can turn on/turn off your tray applet as you wish. Hope it helps
Sorry MACKABY007, never read your firsy post correctly oooops
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Thanks from me for this too.
Although I am curious to know... from the community at large perhaps... the Today screen is evidently made up of a series of components... TSk files for the theme... applet files for additional display options... the HTC plug-in software to modify the HTC HomePlugin etc.
It seems a bit odd to me... given the apparent effort put into theme creation software by quite a few writers... that those same coders stopped where they did... at themes.
It seems like only half of the job... even the admittedly-clever HTC Home Plug-in Customiser goes that far and no further.
I'd expect at least one developer to come up with a more comprehensive product... the modules do exist as separate entities... theme designers... plug ins and customisers... and especially with the advent of WM6 and VGA screens...
I've had two Blue Angels now for a couple of years. It never occurred to me to play with themes. The only modfication of the desktop was from whatever software went in and did so as part of the package... XCPU Scalar and some SPB items for example. I never even bothered to upgrade the Windoze from 2003SE. Everything seemed to work alright, and most software that I try to use on it still does too.
Now we have two Ameos as well... both running different versions of WM6... different ROMs... one of which (the later) is T-Mobile.
And, probably due to the larger screen, I decided to take a look into the desktop.
The T-Mobile flavour did indeed come with this Tray App, and it is only today and on here (naturally) that I have actually found out the designation of the thing.
XCPUScalar knew all about it long before I did, and stuck it's Speed, Reset, and Off buttons in it.
The other Ameo came with what I think may be a vanilla (HTC) version of WM6 and the HTC Home Plug-in... and I only recently learned about that here too... none of this appears in the little manuals T-Mobile inlcude with the Ameo of course.
I wonder now, as I write, if a fairly basic and simple method of getting rid of the Tray App may simply be either removing it from the Windows folder or perhaps renaming it.
Either way, your method works well for me... as does XDA-developers per se... and without whom all HTC customers, whether members here or not, would be a great deal poorer.
Personally, I do wish that I understood a good deal more of the subject matter, especially in the deeper-delving posts... but at least with xda-developers being here... all of you... the possibility exists.
Thank You once again... all of you.
QF

WA3 beta New & Improved?....Ohh Yes indeed!!

http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11258

I'm going to hold of on this until it comes out of beta.. I've spent far too long getting the U1000 tweaked and working perfectly with the right combination of settings and software.
That thread has already achieved 12 pages of replies to the launch, so I figure its going through some teething issues already.
Cheers for the update though - a lot of those new features look extremely tempting!

WA3 beta kicks ass..
I am pleased to say, so far, WA3 beta is a vast leap forward from WA2 in terms of features and functionality. I'm loving it, but there seems to be no option for using anything but the default theme at this moment (correct me if I'm wrong peeps).
I'm loving the option to have shortcuts in the TrayApps.

WA3 is brill even in beta...
I'm very pleased to report that despite the many problems reported on the Lakeridge forums about this beta on various devices, it works perfectly on my Ameo.
I love the feature set on this new version and will definately be investing in this once the official release has made it out the door.
I forgot to take a screen shot of it without soft keys enabled (giving one even more screen real estate - if that's what you like).
But here are a few pics that I did take...and Yes you can use your old favourite WA2 Themes or WA3 Themes if you have any.
Final Word: No problems encountered as yet. Brill. I highly recommend checking this out, as it is way better than WA2.
Note: Be sure to completely uninstall WA2 first and save your Themes folder to somewhere else first (you will be able to install these from wherever you drop them later through WA3 i.e. Start/Settings/Personal/Theme Manager).
Drop us a line if you get stuck.

whats the memory utilization like???

ade0282 said:
whats the memory utilization like???
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Haven't noticed a drop in memory usage. It seems snappier than before. Reports from the Lakeridge website are that the memory usage is considerably lower than WA2.
I've also got this up and running with no probs at all on my wife's Universal (T-Mobile MDA Pro) with no ill effects to speak of.
I did delve a bit deeper into memory usage over here: http://www.4winmobile.com/viewtopic.php?p=62542#62542

Wow, that's impressive news. I might totally back up my U1000 tonight and take a leap of faith. But I'm still skeptical. Really looking forward to official release though!
Now that I think about it, I guess I should anyway - as to provide feedback on any bugs!

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Haven't noticed a drop in memory usage. It seems snappier than before. Reports from the Lakeridge website are that the memory usage is considerably lower than WA2.
I've also got this up and running with no probs at all on my wife's Universal (T-Mobile MDA Pro) with no ill effects to speak of.
I did delve a bit deeper into memory usage over here: http://www.4winmobile.com/viewtopic.php?p=62542#62542
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Hi Mackaby007,
Beautiful pictures you have there. I have been trying this out for a while, but wonder where does your skin come from? It's FANTASTIC looking.
Also, when you press the PROCESS button in the battry pop up, do you get to see the running processes? Mine has nothing there.
Have you tried adding in more applications than one could be accomodated in just one line in the system tray? What happens if you try to have ALL launcheable applications there and run out of space? With applications like SPB pocket plus, you siimply add more tabs. But how about this one? You know what I'm thinking? If it allows all to be launched there, I might just dump my SPB pocket plus and use this to replace it as well as Magic Button.
I much prefer to keep all my applications alive when I press close button. There is really no reason to shut them down, because so doing means than when you need it again, you got to reload from scratch. Imaging reloading Opera Mobile..... It takes forever. So, the way I use me device to to keep ALL frequently used applications alive regardless of whether I press the close button with or without holding it down (I do not want to accidentially close it by holding down too long). If I really want to close it down, currently magic button let me do it be pressing and holding down on the running icon on task bar. I find that with WA3, the process of making an application stay alive when close button is pressed is far too tedious. You need to go to setting>Task>executable, and select the excecutable individually (WA3 works very slowly here unfortunately). Also, choosing to keep it alive still does not prevent me from accidentally closing it when close button is pressed too long. In this regards, I feel that Magic Button's design is far better.
Do you know of a way to suppress the task title all together? My view is that the icon of running task should just be "lighted up" to show it is the current application. Also, we know what application it is anyway by looking at what is staring at you. Why waste the precious real estate on task title?
I like the new ROTATE screen icon, and the ability to show date and time occupyping only one icon space. This is something where magic button should incorporate.
Oh, initially I though that the phone icon will let you click and directly let you use the phone but this is not so. Do yo know of a way to put a real phone task icon on the task bar, so that clicking that icon on the TB will give you access to phone application immediately? The trouble i have is that when phone application is launched, WA5 does not seem to show it on the TB (unlike magic button). I like magic button more in this regard.
Are you using QVGA when you took those screen shots? How does it look in VGA? Would the system tray buttons are far too small? Do you think that if we use VGA and WA3 we could get away from having to use another application such as SPB pocket plus?
One last thing, I could be wrong about this. But I got a distinct feeling that my response time is slower using this rather than Magic Button.
That's a long post, but I'm very interested in your view in the above.

I still cant figure out how to use WAD .. lol... argh! Im st0opit.
Anyone wanna help me out with it? lol.

EagleSteve Q&A....
eaglesteve said:
That's a long post, but I'm very interested in your view in the above.
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Hi eaglesteve.
Thanks for the compliment. I do like nice screens and preferably unclutterred. Anyway....the WA2 skin can be purchased through Nacashco Designs here: http://www.nascasho.com/Skins-Sub-InD_05.html
and the background image I found trolling around on the deviant art website under; 3 Dimensional. (see attachment)
Q & A (I'll do my best)
Q1. Also, when you press the PROCESS button in the battry pop up, do you get to see the running processes? Mine has nothing there.
A.1 Yes I see all the running processes and am able to stop any one of them.
Q2. Have you tried adding in more applications than one could be accomodated in just one line in the system tray?
A2. Yes, but it won't display any more than 15 icons from my experience. No point in addind any more as you cannot scroll through them (in the hope that you will see the other shortcuts you added previously). That's a good point to take up with Chris at Lakeridge, as he mat be willing to incorporate this into WA3 as it's still in beta.
Q3. Do you know of a way to suppress the task title all together? My view is that the icon of running task should just be "lighted up" to show it is the current application.
A3. Yes mine is currently set up this way too. I only want to see an icon of running apps.** I think under the 'Buttons' menu you have to go to 'Assignments' and ensure that 'Title' is NOT checked.
Q4. Do yo know of a way to put a real phone task icon on the task bar?
A4. I've added the phone app to the System tray (no need for keyboard anymore ). It's called 'Phone.lnk', but should be a visible icon when you go to choose it.
Q5. Are you using QVGA when you took those screen shots? How does it look in VGA? Would the system tray buttons are far too small? Do you think that if we use VGA and WA3 we could get away from having to use another application such as SPB pocket plus?
A5. I suppose you would call it QVGA (default mode). I tried TrueVGA and whilst it looks great, I don't like that I can hardly see anything. Got good eyesight at the mo and don't want to start straining. 2nd half of your question...Yes I think it's definitely possible, as you'd theoretically fit many more icons in the Tray applet/System Tray. Good thinking Batman! I might have to reconsider TrueVGA just for that!
Q6. But I got a distinct feeling that my response time is slower using this rather than Magic Button.
A6. I've used Magic button in the past and was very pleased with it, but stopped using it once I found that you can close apps properly through WA2. Unlike yourself, I like things properly shut down unless I'm going back to it soon, hence the nice running tasks icons.
Ok that should be about it. I hope I answered most if not all of your questions.

mackaby007 that's a great scren. So let me get this right , i buy the theme and get the backround and then i import it to wa3?
Also how do you replace / remove the default tray icons that come with t-mobile, i used the tray display program but that just removes all tray items. I just want to add the programs that i use
Would SPB diary work with this theme? as i have mine on today screen.
thanks

bashi007 said:
mackaby007 that's a great scren. So let me get this right , i buy the theme and get the backround and then i import it to wa3?
Also how do you replace / remove the default tray icons that come with t-mobile, i used the tray display program but that just removes all tray items. I just want to add the programs that i use
Would SPB diary work with this theme? as i have mine on today screen.
thanks
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Hi bashi007. Yes to the first 3 questions. I can't comment on Spb Diary as I've never used it, but I can't see why it should pose a problem.
If you have an Ameo from T-Mobile;
........regarding the system tray...there is a thread already on it...let me go see................
.....aha here it is:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=307086
Go to.....Hkey_Local_Machine\SOFTWARE\HTC\TrayApplet with a reg editor and delete all the little folders that contain the links for the existing shortcuts (free up some space). Be sure to have the system tray visible again first though, so you can see the changes you have made. If you don't see it, uninstall the Tray applet switching application and reboot.
If you own an X7500/Advantage read this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=308250 Once you've gotten rid of all your system appointed icons, follow on to the skinning app.
Now try WA3 system tray.
Let us know if you run into probs.

Thanks mackaby007 for your reply, i have a slight problem in that i delete the folders in the tray applet, but it still leaves the icon in the tray.

bashi007 said:
Thanks mackaby007 for your reply, i have a slight problem in that i delete the folders in the tray applet, but it still leaves the icon in the tray.
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hi bashi007 what variant of the AThena do you have? If you have the Advantage, you'll have to delete the folders in the HTC Homeplug folder instead or aswell. Then soft reset your device and they should no longer be visible in the system tray.

Thanks for the help, i have Ameo, after soft resetting all seems to work. Great!
i presume i buy the VGA theme from Nacashco Designs.

bashi007 said:
Thanks for the help, i have Ameo, after soft resetting all seems to work. Great!
i presume i buy the VGA theme from Nacashco Designs.
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Yes. Check your PM added more info for you.

WA3 Public Beta 2 is out...
Hot off the press..go get it people. Apparently even more stable than the first release!
Just about to install. Will report back later.

bashi007 said:
Thanks for the help, i have Ameo, after soft resetting all seems to work. Great!
i presume i buy the VGA theme from Nacashco Designs.
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Hi,
What is this "VGA theme from Nacashco Designs" ?

olegzz said:
Hi,
What is this "VGA theme from Nacashco Designs" ?
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Hi olegzz.
I can see by your joining date that you are new to this forum, so I will be patient with.
It is generally good practice to read through a thread before asking questions that may have already been asked and or answered.
In this instance no one has asked, but there are only 2 pages to this thread and one glance at the first page would have fully revealed what you asked.
to answer your question nonetheless, it is merely a skin made for Wisbar Advance 2 and is one of hundreds of interchangeable skins. Some of us just happen to like this one.
If you know about these things already I apoligise for my tone. If however you don't, then this might be of real interest to you as it completely changes the look and feel of your WM device.
The screenshots on page 1 of this thread are just 1 example of this. Best to head on over to Lakeridge software (website) to get a clearer picture.
Good luck.

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Hi olegzz.
I can see by your joining date that you are new to this forum, so I will be patient with.
It is generally good practice to read through a thread before asking questions that may have already been asked and or answered.
In this instance no one has asked, but there are only 2 pages to this thread and one glance at the first page would have fully revealed what you asked.
to answer your question nonetheless, it is merely a skin made for Wisbar Advance 2 and is one of hundreds of interchangeable skins. Some of us just happen to like this one.
If you know about these things already I apoligise for my tone. If however you don't, then this might be of real interest to you as it completely changes the look and feel of your WM device.
The screenshots on page 1 of this thread are just 1 example of this. Best to head on over to Lakeridge software (website) to get a clearer picture.
Good luck.
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My, that was way more polite than my response would have been!