Hello,
I was wondering: What exactly happens to the Wizard when you perform a reset?
Are all the files on the Wizard deleted except for the operating system?
or
Are all the files on the Wizard deleted except for the operating system and the Extended_Rom folder?
or
Are all the files on the Wizard restored to their original state from some sort of image? So you lose all information but if you previously deleted a file in the Extended_Rom folder it comes back after a hard reset?
Also, what happens when the battery drains? Do you also lose your files as you did with the Magician, or are all your files still on the device? (persistant storage).
all files in the "user storage" area of the rom are deleted (formated)
this in essance forces WM2005 to start afresh.
this user storage area is in the same memory as the operating system so isnt affected by anything, only hard reset (format user storage area).
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Hi
My cursor remains in the url box since I tweaked some fonts, scroll bar dimensions and other things.
the d-pad/jog wheel moves the entire page...but no in-page cursor/clicking of items.
Its been all stylus for a few days.
I am a bit ignorant on how to proceed.
I DO have all backed up on the device with spb.
Tell me what to do please!
Gratefully.
If you backed up all your data on the device with Spb Backup software prior to your experimenting, then you simply have to click on the executable file that was created when you did the backup and all will be restored.
please know that i'm totally new to windows/computers...... but exactly what is the 'executable file' created?
Aren't there certain files from previous backups associated with IE amd IE settings that I can selectively custom restore?
Again, thank you for help.
tim
On default, the backup file is created under \My Documents -directory. Just click the filename and the backup restoration dialogue begins... basically just click Next/Yes
Your patience will be rewarded somehow sir(s)....
so..I went to my spb backup to a previous date when it worked.......
then in restore chose my documents (?)..and restored those files:.... no return to cursur function.
'my documents' on my storage card has no 'directory'.
I'll keep playing!
Thanks again
tim
I don't quite understand what you mean by "'my documents' on my storage card has no 'directory'.
My Documents -directory is located on Phones internal memory by default. When you insert a Storage Card, it has no directories nor files.
And after a quick thinking, I can only remember Camera application to use Storage Card\My Documents, wether you choose to save pictures there and after that the My Documents directory will be created.
You could copy the executable backup file to storage card, then do a hard reset and then restore files from the backup.
Oh and one thing, when you create a backup or restore, make sure, you are not connected to ActiveSync. I learned that lesson once
If my memory serves me right, Spb Backup makes backup only of Phones internal memory, so restoring a backup, won't put anything on the storage card.
Instead of installing all my apps one by one after a new rom or a hard reset, I am thinking of including the apps into the extended rom folder. My question is "what may be the size of the extended rom folder?"
Usually extended ROM partition is about 10MB.
Please not the following:
1) Flashing a new ROM will format this partition erasing all data!
2) Many programs require registry settings or copy some files to windows folder.
For hard reset you should use Sprite or SPB backup programs to make a self-extracting image of your device (usually on SD).
For ROM changes it is always recommended to reinstall apps because of possible changes in OS structure.
Sorry if this has been posted before, I've serached to no avail. I'm trying to better understand the whole ROM/RAM thing, and have a few questions that will clarify whats going on
a) Without having an SD card, if I copy a file to, say, the "My Documents" folder on the phone, does this get stored on the ROM, or the RAM?
b) I've recently done a hard-reset to restore back to factory settings, but afterwards found some folders on the phone that aren't "factory" (Swype for instance). I thought a hard-reset wiped out all data and replaced it, no?
c) If I were to somehow completely wipe the storage area of my phone (Program files / Windows / ConnMgr folders for instance), would a hard-reset be enough to restore functionality? If so, where would the system files come from?
d) Is the 448Mb RAM used solely for CPU execution, and is wiped by soft-reset or removing the battery?
Sorry if these questions are real basic, but necessary in order to further understand whats going on
Richard_Bushby said:
Sorry if this has been posted before, I've serached to no avail. I'm trying to better understand the whole ROM/RAM thing, and have a few questions that will clarify whats going on
a) Without having an SD card, if I copy a file to, say, the "My Documents" folder on the phone, does this get stored on the ROM, or the RAM?
b) I've recently done a hard-reset to restore back to factory settings, but afterwards found some folders on the phone that aren't "factory" (Swype for instance). I thought a hard-reset wiped out all data and replaced it, no?
c) If I were to somehow completely wipe the storage area of my phone (Program files / Windows / ConnMgr folders for instance), would a hard-reset be enough to restore functionality? If so, where would the system files come from?
d) Is the 448Mb RAM used solely for CPU execution, and is wiped by soft-reset or removing the battery?
Sorry if these questions are real basic, but necessary in order to further understand whats going on
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a) ram on the HD2 is just like the ram of your home computer... it's not for storage, but for program runtime memory
b) may be weird, unless you had a swype folder that came with your stock rom in the first place and you didn't know anyway the plain hard reset doesn't properly format your internal storage memory, that's why tools like task29 exist; it may be possible that folder "survived" the hard reset, even if I find it strange
c) those files would come from the "ROM" after a hard reset the internal storage memory is 512MB, there are "partitions" in it, for radio, rom image, and user files, when you delete system files on your device you are not really deleting the files from the rom image, so they will just be restored after hard reset. Someone please correct me if I'm writing wrong pieces of information
d)yes, again it's just like your pc's ram. Back in the times, old pda's had a pool of "ram" that was used practically for everything, and was in fact shared between program runtime excecution,and files storage, while their "rom" wasn't user writeable, and reserved for just the OS image (thinking about my very first WinCE device now, casio cassiopeia, quite some years have passed!), so if you removed the battery and your backup battery ran out, you would lose your files. HD2 instead has his persistent memory chip, the 512MB/1024MB rom chip, so you won't lose any data without power, but surely your ram chips will.
Thanks for your reply! Just to make sure I've got this right:
The HD2 has:
448MB RAM - volatile / battery dependant memory that is used for program
execution just like in a PC
512MB "storage memory" - non-volatile memory where the windows system
files, program files, music files and "my documents" are stored. Kind of like
the HDD in a PC
512MB ROM - stores the operating system and factory files that are copied
to the "storage memory" in the event of a hard reset. These files can only
be changed by flashing a new ROM image.
A Hard Reset wont format the "storage memory", it will just replace certain
files and folders from the ROM image.
A smaller, or lite ROM image will result in more "storage memory" after a
hard reset
Have I got this basically correct?
If so, one last quick question:
Task29 formats the "storage memory" correct? So I should be able to Task
29 and then a hard reset will get things back up and running without
having to do any flashing of the ROM?
Many thanks in advance
Can anyone confirm the above post?
Richard_Bushby said:
Thanks for your reply! Just to make sure I've got this right:
The HD2 has:
448MB RAM - volatile / battery dependant memory that is used for program
execution just like in a PC
512MB "storage memory" - non-volatile memory where the windows system
files, program files, music files and "my documents" are stored. Kind of like
the HDD in a PC
512MB ROM - stores the operating system and factory files that are copied
to the "storage memory" in the event of a hard reset. These files can only
be changed by flashing a new ROM image.
A Hard Reset wont format the "storage memory", it will just replace certain
files and folders from the ROM image.
A smaller, or lite ROM image will result in more "storage memory" after a
hard reset
Have I got this basically correct?
If so, one last quick question:
Task29 formats the "storage memory" correct? So I should be able to Task
29 and then a hard reset will get things back up and running without
having to do any flashing of the ROM?
Many thanks in advance
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The ROM is the storage memory. There is only RAM and ROM... that is it. The ROM is partitioned into sections for radio, OS image, etc. Running Task29 will format the ROM, but will erase the OS image, so you will need to flash a rom after doing task29.
Richard_Bushby said:
Thanks for your reply! Just to make sure I've got this right:
The HD2 has:
448MB RAM - volatile / battery dependant memory that is used for program
execution just like in a PC
512MB "storage memory" - non-volatile memory where the windows system
files, program files, music files and "my documents" are stored. Kind of like
the HDD in a PC
512MB ROM - stores the operating system and factory files that are copied
to the "storage memory" in the event of a hard reset. These files can only
be changed by flashing a new ROM image.
A Hard Reset wont format the "storage memory", it will just replace certain
files and folders from the ROM image.
A smaller, or lite ROM image will result in more "storage memory" after a
hard reset
Have I got this basically correct?
If so, one last quick question:
Task29 formats the "storage memory" correct? So I should be able to Task
29 and then a hard reset will get things back up and running without
having to do any flashing of the ROM?
Many thanks in advance
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Usually this is what I do. Run Task29. Then after it shows 100%, I hold the VOL DOWN button. Flash the ROM (I flash custom ROMS, you can flash Stock ROMS if you like) with the CPU +USB. After the ROM finishes and shows 100%, hold VOL UP+DOWN to do a hard reset.
Let the first round of ROM fully setup. Then do another hard reset after that. This fully wipes everything off for me and return me to a clean slate that is MUCH more cleaner than ever before.
This is the equivalent of a secure erase on an SSD using the Secure Erase from UCSD's magnetic research facility. It wipes out everything so clean, the police wont be able to trace it if they tried.
zarathustrax said:
The ROM is the storage memory. There is only RAM and ROM... that is it. The ROM is partitioned into sections for radio, OS image, etc. Running Task29 will format the ROM, but will erase the OS image, so you will need to flash a rom after doing task29.
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So from what you're saying... if I copy a file into the My Documents folder, this effectively gets stored on ROM, right?
Richard_Bushby said:
So from what you're saying... if I copy a file into the My Documents folder, this effectively gets stored on ROM, right?
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Correct. All your internal storage is on the rom.
I have a quick question if i may...
Back in the times of the WM5/6.x , we could hard-reset and windows mobile would be copied from "somewhere" into it's original status.
Now, my question is, where the hell was that WM Rom stored for hard resets? Are we using that space? Am i talking crap here??
(ok, 3 questions, i know... i know... )
I think I'm talking crap too, but if so, someone can correct me!
I'm assuming the original ROM is stored in ROM, e.g. Read Only Memory, and then any changes, tweaks, additions, installs etc are then stored in RAM/storage. If you do a "Clear Storage", everything in the storage is deleted and the phone thinks it's brand new again.
DISCLAIMER: This really could be complete b****cks
From what i understand of Android, the OS uses 3 partions. cache, system, data.
Cache is self explained.
System, is mounted read only, and it's where the majority of the OS itself (Linux) binaries/conf files are stored, as well as the Android framework and apps.
Data is where shared preferences are stored, as well as downloaded and updated apps.
Now, we might already be using the space that WM used to store it's restore-backup back in the day... i just wanted confirmation
Hello,
I was freeing up some space on my OP2 device as it was about 52GB Full of 54GB,
i deleted all not used and temp folders, i also found folder named sdcard and storage in same.
I opened them and both were empty, i deleted them as well and as i did that i got a error that it can not be deleted.
Then i just found that whole data on my cell is deleted, all the files and folders are wiped and those two as well.
Now i am asking that is their any way to recover my data, i.e all images, videos, pdf &docx files etc..
As this device can not be connected as a mass storage so that i can use any software on my pc to do so.
i have tried Disk Digger Pro version as well, but unfortunately no success.
Please guys please help me out to come out of this issue. All suggestions and solutions are welcome.
You can also share any paid add as i can buy it to recover my data, but i really need a helping solution.
Thanks in advance.
shubhamalive said:
Hello,
I was freeing up some space on my OP2 device as it was about 52GB Full of 54GB,
i deleted all not used and temp folders, i also found folder named sdcard and storage in same.
I opened them and both were empty, i deleted them as well and as i did that i got a error that it can not be deleted.
Then i just found that whole data on my cell is deleted, all the files and folders are wiped and those two as well.
Now i am asking that is their any way to recover my data, i.e all images, videos, pdf &docx files etc..
As this device can not be connected as a mass storage so that i can use any software on my pc to do so.
i have tried Disk Digger Pro version as well, but unfortunately no success.
Please guys please help me out to come out of this issue. All suggestions and solutions are welcome.
You can also share any paid add as i can buy it to recover my data, but i really need a helping solution.
Thanks in advance.
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It's normal that all your documents, photos, messages, ets, have been deleted, as /sdcard is...your sdcard. And, well, no, I don't think there is any recovery options...
As long as your internal "sdcard" storage is not encrypted you should be able to just factory restore the phone back to full functionality. After that you should be able to connect phone as usb storage device to your PC and use standard undelete software to undelete your files, because factory restore doesn't actually format your internal storage, it only deletes the file index (FAT).
pitrus- said:
As long as your internal "sdcard" storage is not encrypted you should be able to just factory restore the phone back to full functionality. After that you should be able to connect phone as usb storage device to your PC and use standard undelete software to undelete your files, because factory restore doesn't actually format your internal storage, it only deletes the file index (FAT).
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yes, but if he used the wipe function in TWRP, which use mkfs.ext4 (if I remember), do you think there is still a possibility for him to recover his data?
I'm not sure about it. But then again, I'd say that and testdisk/photorec is his last chance of restoring at least photos.
If this doesn't work, I'm afraid anything will work at all..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-nexus/general/guide-internal-memory-data-recovery-yes-t1994705
Sorry i guess no luck unless you see a recovery partition