Navigating to a WAP site using WIFI - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General

I am using my K-Jam to navigate to a WAP site (http://wap.tfl.gov.uk/planner/) but as soon as I do my phone ignores my WiFi connection and tries to use GPRS instead. Is there any way to stop this behavior?

Same problem here ! tryed the same.
have noticed you can not display pic's when on WAP sites.
Also . would like to know how to disconect the GPRS connection when it is connected. only way i know how is to connect to a different conection and then cancell it before it connects.
any help would be appriciated ! GPRS is costing about 2.35 per 1 meg .
thanks

to discon gprs hold down the red end call button for a few secs.
i am gettting annoyed with similer wifi/gprs problem
seems that if i have wifi on in the (like in the house) and i have it set to download from my exchange server then thats all well and good but when the phone goes into standby and the wifi auto turns off, the exchange activesync still happens but automatically changes and connects via gprs. the whole point was that as i was in my house i wouldnt need to use/waste money on gprs calls since i can use wireless.

I hope the I-mate developer read these forums and update the problems on a new rom update.
GPRS is costing me £2.35 per meg . But as far as i know I ( We ) only get charged for the info downloaded, if it is connected to a page that has loaded completely and is not downloading anything, there should be no extra charge even if connect to same page for hours.

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wifi-gprs

i have had a quick look and cannot see a related posy but i appologise if there is
i have just got the mda 3 on t mobile web and walk with 40 mb
i have wanadoo wireless in my home and using the wi fi in my mda3 it has connected
all ok u say
what i am not sure of is when i am wifi connected to wanadoo and then click on internet explorer on my mda it still connects me to gprs,is it supposed to do that and if so will it be charging me,my intention was that i thought if i connected to my wireless home box then i would just go through that and i would be using my wannadoo subscription
do i need to disconnect the gprs in some way
sorry if i sound think but a bit new to all this portable stuff
any help gratefully recieved
dawn
maybe you could create an extra gprs profile with the wrong settings.Then you could switch to that one while at home..just a thought
cheers
maybe i could try that
i am not going to loose anything by trying
thanks again
garethsimpsonuk said:
maybe you could create an extra gprs profile with the wrong settings.Then you could switch to that one while at home..just a thought
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That won't work in my experience.
See my solution request Jasjar PIE will not use WiFi connection - always uses GPRS! on Jan 24 :roll:
If you don't have a valid GPRS connection (say flight mode on) the connections just fail via GPRS and it never even tries Wi-Fi :!:
Opera Browser works for me but I really want Terminal Server Client to work. :evil:

GPRS Question

GPRS is new territory for me. I'm planning to apply for a GPRS acct with my telco
I'm afraid that once I've configured the settings for internet via GPRS from my telco, it will always use GPRS whenever I want to connect to the internet.
How do I switch back to normal mode when I'm at home and accessing the internet thru ActiveSync?
On my EXTENDED_ROM, there is a file called vodafone.CAB which will configure my phone with Vodafone settings (I'm with Vodafone). Whenever I run that file (after a hard reset), I cannot access the internet via ActiveSync. Everytime I run PIE, it always defaults to GPRS.
I don't know how to switch to use internet via activesync once I'm on the GPRS plan and then switch back to GPRS when I'm not at home.
If you are concerned about it using GPRS once you are connected to ActiveSync you could always switch to flight mode. Not ideal, I admit, if you use your phone alot and don't like it being turned off.
I had two profiles on mine, one GPRS and one dial up. Even when I set the default to the dial up (CSD) it still tried to use GPRS. Fault with my pocket PC only? maybe. What was strange was that even after I deleted the GPRS profile and soft reset it still was using GPRS! I had to hard reset in the end.
So, I would backup your pocket PC before installing the GPRS profiles.
If you have a large bandwidth then it probably won't matter to you but if not I would definately install a bandwidth monitor as you may also find that some apps you install may also try to periodically get internet access.
The problem with Windows Mobile 2003 is that you can't seem to tell it to ask you first. Microsoft seem to think that you either want GPRS on permanently or don't use it at all. I am sure there are a lot of people out there who just want to use it from time to time. If an app wants internet it just goes and gets it!
Having said that, even with CSD, it will still dial out when it wants. To get around that problem I created 2 profiles, one of which doesn't have a userid and password. I set the default profile to the one without userid. That way if something tries to get internet access it first asks the user to enter their userid and password - in effect it safeguards against a rogue dial out.
I personally don't use GPRS as I found out that my CSD access will use my free minutes. Since I hardly use my phone for voice calls I may as well make use of the free minutes for internet access.
Ok did some searching around ppcsg, apparently you can turn off GRPS by pressing the RED button (the disconnect talk button) and holding it for a few seconds.
Or use this tool
http://www.pocketpcfreeware.com/en/index.php?soft=1123
Question is whether once the GPRS is turned off, will internet access be automatically be directed to the ActiveSync connection (assuming I'm connected via ActiveSync)
To use internet via AS you should configure 'my work network' correctly under the 'connections' settings. The 'my isp' connection is meant for dial-up & gprs access to the internet.
Sadly can't tell how to do it in detail as my magician is my wireless modem & at work the connection isn't allowed. Maybe the help files are of any use in this.
Cheers, M
yes, mine, just automatically uses my internet connection thro' my PC with AS, but as soon as I disconnect from my PC, my Qtek switches over to GPRS.. which is pretty cool.
dood, care to share how you achieve this?
I suppose the question is, if you are connected to a PC which is on the internet, why would you want internet access on the Magician anyway? Why not just use Thunderbird or other web browser?
Outlook will sync the inbox for e-mail when connected via activesync...
The joy of surfing the net while watching TV lying on the bed..can't really do that wth a laptop..too heavy

Solved my GPRS re-connect problem

Many of you on this bb has a problem that GPRS doesn't re-connect and you have to reset or turn flight mode on/off to get connected again.
Here is what I did and mine has now been working for 3-4 weeks as it should be working. Shows to me that none of the software like Wisbar, Pocket Plus etc is causing it.
In SETTINGS/CONNECTIONS, under CONNECTIONS I have My ISP and My Work Network. Under both I used to have WAP, where it will use GPRS to connect. I have deleted the WAP GPRS option under My Work Network, to have nothing under Modem Connection, I only have WAP GPRS under My ISP in the Modem Connection.
Also, I used to have my work's settings in VPN, which I have also taken out. When I activesync via GPRS, my phone used to connect to the GPRS server and then tried to connect to VPN. After that I couldn't re-connect with GPRS.
After I have done the above, my phone now connects flawlessly everytime using the actievsync mobile schedule and when connecting manually.
O yes, I also run GB-Soft's GPRS tweak which can be found at http://www.GB-Soft.cz/XDAII
Well I was very sceptical about this. But I too deleted the WAP settings under Work and in the last month I haven't been unable to connect once.
So either this works or O2 have solved a problem with their network (I did not have the problem last winter in Singapore, Malaysia, or Australia iirc.)
The only other difference to my setup is that I now use Activesync 4.2 rather than 3.x
I am on Vodacom in South Africa, and what I have done above works for me. I only reboot my phone now to clear memory to free up some or when I need to run my GPS software, then I reboot to give it as much memory as possible.
I posted a solution that works for me, use, don't use it, up to you.
Hey, I was saying thanks - I believe it works
kevino said:
Well I was very sceptical about this. But I too deleted the WAP settings under Work and in the last month I haven't been unable to connect once.
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Sorry, my mistake, this part was confusing, as it looks like you couldn't connect.
Yes,
"I have always been able to connect first time" would have been a lot better than the double negative :lol:

Connection preference settings

Hi,
I have had a search to see if this has been covered before but maybe I am using the wrong query.
I have an O2 Exec with the latest O2 Rom, and now when I do an email send and receive, the GPRS connection stays up. Whereas I could have sworn in the earlier ROM it disconnected after the send/receive.
I spoke to O2 and they assured me that it is supposed to do that, and since I only get charged for actaul data transfer, I can sit connected to GPRS all day for free (is this correct).
Now, my main question is. Say GPRS is up and connected, and I turn on WIFI or plug into my PC using the charger/sync cable and then do a send and receive. Will the Exec use these free connections or still route data over the GPRS?
I did a test and it looked as though when I did this, the GPRS connection was shut down, as after a send/receive and then disable WIFI, the connection setting showed a large U and not the connected icon.
I am now sitting with a GPRS connection active, email is set to manual and I have Pocket Weather set to 'Auto update on connection' and 'Auto update on Active Sync', but 'Use connection manager' is disabled as is 'Force a connect when not available'.
Should this mean that no data is used at all and that I can sit connected at no cost.
Sorry for the long rambling post, but I am a complete newbie to all this GPRS pda thing.
regards,
/Mad
related question - how to stop gprs connecting automatically
My wifi router at home is dodgy and sometimes the signal drops - this means my exec switches over automatically to GPRS (I'm not in a 3G area) and starts whacking up a big data bill before I realise. Is there anyway of getting it to ask me if I want to connect to GPRS - rather than it just telling me thats what its doing? Can't turn the phone off cos I still need to receive calls.
I did think of just scarmbling my connection settings, but now I've upgraded to the latest O2 rom the connections settings page does not show any existing connections! (I also can't get TomTom to run at all now but I guess I'll work through that one :-( )
Thanks,
John
I believe this is what you are looking for. Y
ou can set which connections programs use for thier internet access in Settings -> Connections -> Connections -> Advanced, Select Networks.
Choosing My Work Network or My ISP should stop programs sucking up your money.
Thanks PReDiToR I've tried that but it then gives me a 'cannot connect' popup instead of using the wifi - it seems as if there has to be an accessible gprs connection for it to ignore before it will try wifi :-o
What does everyone else do? Maybe you're all rich or the company pays for your data?
Thanks
Any luck yet with the GPRS / WiFi issue?? I have got the sam
webbyfoot said:
Thanks PReDiToR I've tried that but it then gives me a 'cannot connect' popup instead of using the wifi - it seems as if there has to be an accessible gprs connection for it to ignore before it will try wifi :-o
What does everyone else do? Maybe you're all rich or the company pays for your data?
Thanks
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Any luck yet with the GPRS / WiFi issue?? I have got the same problem
Derrr...
EDIT: Hey I've just read what I've written below and its exavctly what Preditor suggested - funny didn't work when I tried ........ I guess it was because I was trying 'My ISP' without gprs settings - which complained - whereas 'My Work Network' without gprs settings allows the wifi to connect ... :?
I've now got a workaround for this - means going through the menus every time I DO want GPRS data - but thats rare till I get a better contract which will have to wait till my 12 months with O2 is up in November.. web'n'walk sounds good - unlimited gprs :-o - (could T-Mobile really tell when I was using my XDa as a modem for my laptop - which is forbidden in the terms of this contarct - and when I was just usng data for its own programs - which is allowed ??)
Anyway what I do is settings>connections>advanced>Select Networks> choose My Work Network for programs connecting to the internet. I have no gprs settings in My Work Network but it connects to wifi no problem.
So when I forget and I'm out of wifi range I get an error that it can't connect, so change the setting back to 'MY ISP' and GPRS kicks in.
A Today Screen shortcut to the Network Management screen would help - but I'm almost always using wifi so I haven't bothered.
John

Switching off GPRS

Hi is there anyway of switching GPRS Off wuithout turning the phone off?
I want to be ablt to use wireless at home however it constantly switches to GPRS - driving me mad. I have a 1gb allowance on my GPRS but i use that for my pushmail for office mails.
I would like to be able to surf at home usig WIFI, when doing this is there a setting (not connection manager) that can turn GPRS off when i am using WIFI?
If you set your WiFi connection as connected to the Internet instead of Work, and in the network adapters setting (settings, connections, network cards, network adapters tab) set that your network card connects to the internet, once you establish an internet connection with WiFi, it should kick your GPRS connection off. On my phone GPRS still tries to connect once in a while for some reason, but never does, since the WiFi internet connection just keeps kicking it off.
abc123MDA said:
Hi is there anyway of switching GPRS Off wuithout turning the phone off?
I want to be ablt to use wireless at home however it constantly switches to GPRS - driving me mad. I have a 1gb allowance on my GPRS but i use that for my pushmail for office mails.
I would like to be able to surf at home usig WIFI, when doing this is there a setting (not connection manager) that can turn GPRS off when i am using WIFI?
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rassah's method is more professional than mine and better perhaps. I'm lazy so I just go to connections button below on/off button and then tap off the GPRS via button that looks like a PDA with two arrows. If GPRS tries to reconnect there should be a popup if you have wifi on that allows you to cancel it's reconnection. This does not disable the phone.
Mike
thanks - i will try this - do you know if this will affect the dirct push mail?
Just thought this may help, found it on Modaco.. Works a treat, just toggles gprs data on and off... Very easy and works
Not sure how OK it is to post links to other forums but as it is free software I guess I should be OK...
http://www.modaco.com/New-FREE-Utility-t246171.html
Phil
superb application - especially usefull when roaming
Just what I needed, going overseas next month, I don't want to use any data while there.

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