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I started yesterday working with my new i-mate Jasjar, and, already, I am lost in so many bugs and bad issues.
1- ActiveSync 4 does not support backup/restore of the device. I know this is a "known" issue, but it is a real bad one!
2- Some programs cannot be installed at all, like SPB PocketPlus. On another hand, all task switchers (and program closers) make problems, and end up by soft resetting the device.
3- A big problem: I cannot uninstall any of the programs I installed, whether on the main memory or the storage card, whether by using ActiveSync (from the desktop), or Remove Programs (in Settings) or any third party software, like SKTools!
4- Synchronizing through ActiveSync is not always straight forward. Sometimes the device is not recognized, or, when recognized, synchronize cannot start, or, when it does start, it never ends.
Did any of you experience any of these problems?
Any suggestions, or we have to wait for a ROM upgrade ?
Spb pocketplus may not be supported by wm05?.Perhaps the next release will work though as i'm getting either the wizard or universal so I hope it does!
personally i wouldnt expect software that worked fine on windows 3.1 to work just as fine on xp.
bugs are ok, it makes the patches more anticipated, and of course, with out this kind of feedback sofware houses wouldn't always reveal the issues before software is released.
Tekflow said:
I started yesterday working with my new i-mate Jasjar, and, already, I am lost in so many bugs and bad issues.
1- ActiveSync 4 does not support backup/restore of the device. I know this is a "known" issue, but it is a real bad one!
2- Some programs cannot be installed at all, like SPB PocketPlus. On another hand, all task switchers (and program closers) make problems, and end up by soft resetting the device.
3- A big problem: I cannot uninstall any of the programs I installed, whether on the main memory or the storage card, whether by using ActiveSync (from the desktop), or Remove Programs (in Settings) or any third party software, like SKTools!
4- Synchronizing through ActiveSync is not always straight forward. Sometimes the device is not recognized, or, when recognized, synchronize cannot start, or, when it does start, it never ends.
Did any of you experience any of these problems?
Any suggestions, or we have to wait for a ROM upgrade ?
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dude all of these are software (activesync and windows 5 related) none are related to jasjar...the jasjar is the most stable imate device EVER
yes there are issues between the new active sync and windows and firewall and the antivirus that you run but these are Microsofts faults not jasjars...
to answer your questions
1) this is a bummer.. i really wish they had given the option of backing up device..anywyas thats why you have ppc softwares that do backup..the one working on wm5 is sunnysoft backup..
2)most of the softwares lag behind.. wm5 is out but not all software makers have updated their products..NOTE AGAIN THIS IS NOT JASJARS FAULT..its YOURs you can wait 6 more months by then spbsoftware should have a pocketplus that works on wm5
3)dude again old applications like sktools dont work on wm5... if you want you can use pocket mechanic and memmaid ..they work fine.. for task manager i use dinarsoft handy sweitcher..not only its an excellent application but it works on wm5 aswelll...
4)you have your firewall and antivirus software and to blame for this...not jasjar..for me i had to FORMAT my laptop and install activesync before i turned on firewall and installed an antivirus program...only then did active sync work..and its flawless now.. oen word my personal experience trendmicro2002 doesnt work with AS however 2005 version of pcillin works with its personal firewall set to off...
hope i cleared up a few misconceptions for you
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Well,
1) That is annoying. I hadn't noticed that, but I'm sure it'll be addressed in future...
2) As zohaer21 says, that's purely because we have the latest, greatest bleeding edge technology, and the software developers have yet to catch up. (In the meantime, HandySwitcher is working perfectly on my device, no bugs, no crashes, just what it's meant to do!)
3) Have you tried installing anything from a .cab file to see if you still have a problem uninstalling? I'd guess ActiveSync is probably your problem...
4) Can't really help there...I'd suggest removing Activesync completely from your PC and installing it again from scratch. Personally I'm not using the bundled version of ActiveSync (4.1?) because I had an old 4.0.??? already but I don't think I've heard of anyone else with that issue yet so I'd assume it's a problem with your PC installation?
Carnivor said:
personally i wouldnt expect software that worked fine on windows 3.1 to work just as fine on xp.
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no, but you'd expect software that worked on windows 2000 to work on XP. Why compare something with an 11 year gap to something with a 2 year gap?
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Carnivor said:
personally i wouldnt expect software that worked fine on windows 3.1 to work just as fine on xp.
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no, but you'd expect software that worked on windows 2000 to work on XP. Why compare something with an 11 year gap to something with a 2 year gap?
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True, but MS changed WM5 significantly from WM2003, many more changes than Windows 2000 -> Windows XP. The biggest changes were (1) persistent storage and new memory handling and (2) WM5's compatibility with MS Smartphone apps. I am not surprised a good number of apps aren't working.
By the way, SPB's PocketPlus looks like it works with WM5 because they have screen shots on their web site of it running on a Windows Mobile 5 OS. But it may just not be compatible with the JasJar yet.
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no, but you'd expect software that worked on windows 2000 to work on XP. Why compare something with an 11 year gap to something with a 2 year gap?
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It does not depend on that gap but on what they did durring that gap. If you do not change structural things, backwards compatibility can last a long time.
Actually the gap between WM2003SE and WM5 is quite large for some software developers. Notably some applications that synchronise databases (TimeTTRacker, Commontime mNotes) have to be rewritten from the ground up, even though we are only talking about a 1 year gap. Microsoft did change some crucial things, even if it does not show at first glance.
sorry, my post came across a bit bolshy. It wasn't intended.
I meant that developers would hope that they wouldn't have to re-write their apps every few years. I like the changes, because it adds more structure and makes it more of a uniform platform, but we've got to hope that they don't change these very often.
It would help if MS supplied the emulators for WM5 free of charge. (I'm yet to find any)
No worries
WM 5.0 SDK including emulator for PPC
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...F2-F524-4EC5-9155-717CBE5D25ED&displaylang=en
WM 5.0 SDK including emulator for Smartphone
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...CB-738A-4B97-8910-5CD29AB5F8D9&displaylang=en
SPB Pocket Plus version 3 works just fine on an i-Mate JasJar. Older versions of Pocket Plus will not work on WM5 devices of any kind, so upgrade to Version 3 and you can install it on your jasJar. I'm running it on mine.
hey mat1t dont worry about it,
just dont get put deisel in a petrol car, my analogy of the issues
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SPB Pocket Plus version 3 works just fine on an i-Mate JasJar. Older versions of Pocket Plus will not work on WM5 devices of any kind, so upgrade to Version 3 and you can install it on your jasJar. I'm running it on mine.
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Correct!
It does work under WM5.0 Just make sure you are on version 3
If you are on Version 3 and still refuses to install, copy the CAB file over the device and execute/install from there.
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mat1t said:
Carnivor said:
By the way, SPB's PocketPlus looks like it works with WM5 because they have screen shots on their web site of it running on a Windows Mobile 5 OS. But it may just not be compatible with the JasJar yet.
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hi
it works but it makes it really slow (inlcuding the start up if you use the quick launch menu whatever)..i guess you can say its not wm5 optimized as yet
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SPB Pocket plus does install and work. I had to do a hard reset after I initially used my Jasjar and everything worked right. Like email accounts etc. What I would like to see is a program like gb tweak that keeps the gprs allways alive. But so for there is nothing out there. NO problems with my JasJar at all.
Mike
@Tekflow
Since you got a Jasjar, plz can you upload for us the Arabizer package from the Extended_Rom ?
Click Here! This is how they managed to copy it!
Thank you.
I have the file for you but cannot upload it on the server...
Please send me a PM and I will tell you where to donwload them.
Cheers
Daimaou said:
I have the file for you but cannot upload it on the server...
Please send me a PM and I will tell you where to donwload them.
Cheers
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Just replied, and if someone can tell me why I cannot UL files on the server it would help me
Cheers
You have to use username:xdaupload password:xda to be able to upload
ftp://xdaupload:[email protected]
I use to have a XDA 2 (well, SPV M1000) and (the important thing) a folder named "My XDA 2 must have". The software I use most, the software to backup, the software to keep not only to try. Like:
1. Sprite Backup
2. Visual IT Rough Guide to London (like A-Z map to central London + extras)
3. Splash ID
and not last
4. TomTom 5 .... and others that I miss already.
And THEN, here it is, I waited so long for it, (Exec) that I decided to switch from Orange, to O2, (Orange don't have this even now). Three days of "testing"...Well the device is great....Windows 5 isn't. (At least for me.)
My folder (My XDA 2 must have) is now "The software that doesn't work on WM5" ...None of the four named programs work...it takes ages to charge, it's slow, everything has changed...and how about that 'program' included "Clear Storage"??!!!
I thought it was something like remove programs, not a bloody HARD RESET!
Everything seems to say about Windows 5.....WHY FIX IT IF IT AIN'T BROKEN??!!!
BTW: Does anybody know a decent Wi-Fi Connections Manager that WORKS?? (Hitchhiker crashes my Exec, Retina Scanner wants to know what my socks size is when registering, Wi-Fi Companion Doesn't Install in WM5.........)
I am glad I didn't sell my SPV M1000 yet....but I want to....I love the Exec, but hate what it does...or rather what it doesn't!
..............helps us all !!!
You seem surprised that a major version upgrade (WM2003 to WM5) comes with occasional problems. Didn't we see the same when we changed from Windows 3.1 to Windows 95?
Later versions of desktop operating systems have some backwards compatibility built in, but with the limited resources of the PPC platform I guess they couldn't achieve everything.
We may not know what they are yet , but I'm sure WM5 has built-in features that drive the platform on another big leap and over time we'll take them for granted. I looked at my XDA2 last night (now two days-worth of dust gathering on it) and was reminded how fast it responded to commands, but it looked dated already compared with my shiny new Exec.
Don't forget, we're early adopters of WM5 and we're always going to have problems. When ROM upgrades are released and developers get new versions out for us, we'll wonder how we ever lived without it!
In case you haven't seen it yet, there's a thread running over at www.tekguru.co.uk listing the software that works perfectly on WM5. I found it useful when looking for replacements for my old WM2003 versions.
I have #2 and #4 working (for #4 you need TT 5.1 - d/l the update from their site)
Reinstall from fresh I reckon. And you are using activesync 4 not 3.8 still?
I agree with SiliconS.. I'm always wanting the very latest of everything (hardware and software) and to be honest, I'm surprised how good windows mobile 5 is!
There are many problems, like icons disappearing and speed etc..but they're not life threatening.
I only hope that the providers are going to keep up with the developers and release their specific patches..if not then I'll have to convert to the Jasjar rom :shock:
I love the MDA PRO even with it's problems.
Thanks for the help guys. I'll try these options as well.
BTW, anyone has any problems with the AvantGo software?
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#1 Try googling : Sprite Backup v3.2.0 build 2487.
Should be working with JJ.
Best of Luck. :wink:
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#1 Try googling : Sprite Backup v3.2.0 build 2487.
Should be working with JJ.
Best of Luck. :wink:
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This is real? had you used and work with restores?
Thanks.
From the Sprite Backup developers website:
"Sprite Backup is only compatible with devices using Windows Mobile 2002 and 2003. Windows Mobile 2005 devices cannot use Sprite Backup. We will be releasing a new version that will be compatible with these devices in the near future. Please keep visiting this site for updates."
I did try the version you mentioned but no luck. I use a Exec not a JJ...coud that be it? Thanks anyway...and damn I need a backup program...[/quote]
Here I am after another whole day of reading forums, installing and uninstalling, hard resets, trial and error....and things like that.
As far as the XDA is concerned....I feel better about it now, installed SPB Pocket Plus (works a dream), SPB Finance (great 'cuz it syncs with Quicken), and most of all, swiched to "Corporate" mode...and man, it is FAST now !!!
As mentioned before, Sprite Backup doesn't work, AvantGo works but not as it should, SplashID....nope. I did try eWallet, which works ok on the desktop but not on the XDA.
It's all good fun though.
Grogo said:
swiched to "Corporate" mode...and man, it is FAST now !!!
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I'm thinking that I might go for a hard reset and choose Corp, but I don't know how to set up the GPRS details. How did you get GPRS working for Corporate Mode, or haven't you needed to?
I do find the settings for all these connections v.confusing. I just want it simple, like my laptop! One connection does all...
Now that you mentioned that, I wouldn't know if I need different setting yet, as I am still on Orange for the next couple of days until they port my number. Interesting to see if it works though.
I've tried today the GPRS, G3 connection and it worked without changing anything. (In Corporate mode)
IS there much difference in performance running 5.2 instead of 5.1 on the Universal?
Is there any difference at all?
This new version has the following new features and improvements:
Improved phone functionality for your device.
TomTom NAVIGATOR is now compatible with Microsoft Windows™ MOBILE 5.0 devices.
http://www.tomtom.com/support/category.php?ID=3&Language=1&FID=3361
Don't know if i may post it here. but check this out:
http://rapidshare.de/files/8475711/TomTom_Navigator_update_V.5.21_cracked.rar.html
excellent stuff, been waiting for this, but i cant get it to work, where do i place the cracked exe???
stf06 said:
This new version has the following new features and improvements:
Improved phone functionality for your device.
TomTom NAVIGATOR is now compatible with Microsoft Windows™ MOBILE 5.0 devices.
http://www.tomtom.com/support/category.php?ID=3&Language=1&FID=3361
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Thanks. But TT 5.1 works fine on my EXEC without any problems already. I was wondering if there is an actual difference in experience? Because I dont want to fix what aint broken unless there are new features or a performance improvement, etc...
So has anyone with the 5.2 update installed experienced any significant improvement please??
tyl said:
Thanks. But TT 5.1 works fine on my EXEC without any problems already. I was wondering if there is an actual difference in experience? Because I dont want to fix what aint broken unless there are new features or a performance improvement, etc...
So has anyone with the 5.2 update installed experienced any significant improvement please??
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Just tried the cracked one, and I can't see a difference against 5.1. The screen still draws visibly slowly and the UI is still as limiting and unsophisticated as ever.
I can't see any benefit in upgrading if TT is working already for you.
Looks like TomTom will be waiting a while longer to get my upgrade fee. I'm happy to upgrade legitimately from my legitimate v3, but I don't consider it to be a viable option at the moment. TomTom seem to have lost their way on PocketPC software since they are apparently unifying the software to match their TomTomGO platform. Sadly that leaves those of us with sophisticated multi-purpose devices wondering why we can't have the flexibility of version 3, in which we could keep the Windows Taskbar on the screen and actually use the damn operating system at the same time!
Not good, TomTom. Not good at all. :evil:
Thanks SiliconS.
You have no choice but to wait for the upgrade as I can't find any link to do this on their web site. Does anyone know of any other way of upgrading?
I have version 3 & I refuse to buy version 5 other than through an upgrade.
Mike
I have paid for the upgrade, but the cracked version saves having to mess around with their annoying registration system.
I find the UI clean and elegant. It allows you to quickly do what you need, without fuss. It also makes switching from other TomTom's (Go etc) easy. I find version 5 far better than 3. The maps are much improved too and include all of Europe. Easily worth the upgrade price.
(The screen update is slow in landscape mode, but fine in Portrait.)
i got this (on the wizard) and i still get the same backlight turning off when running it problem. and the hex edit doesnt work with this exe (well not the same values anyway)
thefunkygibbon, you need to hex edit the exe and find the 4 instances of backlight and change them to bbcklight.
Works great on wm5.
hack done
Tomtom 5.2 with hexa change
I have noticed no difference in operation over 5.1
The only change I can see is that it installs via active sink (sic) and ignores the instruction to install to the SD card by placing the application in RAM :evil:
not working correctly
this works for me but cant get any voices to work (i put them on the storgae card from original disk)
it will not find my gps either any ideas
clive
sparkyxda said:
I have noticed no difference in operation over 5.1
The only change I can see is that it installs via active sink (sic) and ignores the instruction to install to the SD card by placing the application in RAM :evil:
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Yea, those bozos at TomTom excelled themselves again, didn't they?
http://www.howardforums.com/showpost.php?p=6309013&postcount=9
Apart from what was said on Howard Forums, which I agree with (clueless TomTom devs!), the update seems to add the ability to install without having to copy the CABS onto the phone.
Apart from that, no difference. If you start it up in landscape mode, it'll run in portrait mode.
One other hint that TomTom are clueless idiots - the compatibility list shows the Jasjar and the MDA Pro as being compatible. However, when I requested an activation code from them they insisted the M5000 was not compatible. They wouldn't accept that the M5000 and the XDA Exec were the same hardware and base image!
In tomtom V5.21 better bluetooth management and u can install directly by activesync with WM2005. For the voices you must to install with the original disk and then you can choise the voices otherwise copy tomtom directory contain the voices in "my documents"
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Apart from what was said on Howard Forums, which I agree with (clueless TomTom devs!), the update seems to add the ability to install without having to copy the CABS onto the phone.
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Precisely. Activesync install was the one obvious thing they had to fix, and they cocked it up. Funny how every other WM5 developer in the world seems to manage it.
Apart from that, no difference. If you start it up in landscape mode, it'll run in portrait mode.
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Precisely. Broken landscape mode. No support for soft buttons. So what's this magical support for WM5? Everything works the same (or doesn't) as in 5.1.
One other hint that TomTom are clueless idiots - the compatibility list shows the Jasjar and the MDA Pro as being compatible. However, when I requested an activation code from them they insisted the M5000 was not compatible. They wouldn't accept that the M5000 and the XDA Exec were the same hardware and base image!
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Clealry, TomTom employees are a complete bozos, and their management couldn't give a sh*t because they've got your money. No wonder people are so keen to rip them off.
kojiro said:
u can install directly by activesync with WM2005.
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Yes, but the morons f*cked up the code so it won't install to the Storage Card. One CAB doesn't ask, the 2nd CAB asks but ignores your answer. So unless you move everything by hand with File Explorer, that's 3MB of your precious main memory wasted. Don't forget it's your money that's paying them to write that crap.
tomtom xda exec
i cant get voices to work or my bt gps helpppppppppppp ,ripping my hair out ive tried all the socalled fixes but no goooood any help would be really great thx
Is there a list of apps that are perfectly compatible with the ameo?
I have tried a few apps and utils such as wisbar advance and spb mobile shell but they seem to have side-effects which alter the the ameo's reliability.
I even had an issue where the camera wouldnt load while spb mobile shell was installed.
So if anybody knows what software best compliment the ameo please let me know!
Smartstradamus said:
Is there a list of apps that are perfectly compatible with the ameo?
I have tried a few apps and utils such as wisbar advance and spb mobile shell but they seem to have side-effects which alter the the ameo's reliability.
I even had an issue where the camera wouldnt load while spb mobile shell was installed.
So if anybody knows what software best compliment the ameo please let me know!
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on my side I am happy with the test with Pocket Informant, pocket slides.
Bad expertise with pocket hack master. Times bad expertise with the print software coming with the device, I think is due the wifi is a little special on athena.
Resco explorer last version creates problems -I think is due too much options on network- managing files in other network computers.
Expensepro runs fine, except the problem with the screen if you rotate it.
About hw, I own a jabra bt8010 and no caller id support, I think is a problem of the bluetooth stack that jetware doesn't solve.
Smartstradamus said:
Is there a list of apps that are perfectly compatible with the ameo?
I have tried a few apps and utils such as wisbar advance and spb mobile shell but they seem to have side-effects which alter the the ameo's reliability.
I even had an issue where the camera wouldnt load while spb mobile shell was installed.
So if anybody knows what software best compliment the ameo please let me know!
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I have manage to quite a lot of programs working, yes some have bug and side effect, but there is always a solution to it. Pocket hack master works too. Actually you will find most of the good application out there works fine with Ameo, there is only very small amount that doesn't work
functional applications...
The following is a list of programs that I've installed on my x7500 which haven't yeilded any problems:
- Vito Audio Notes
- CorePlayer
- PocketXMRadio
- SlingPlayer Mobile
- IM+
- pRSSreader
- Sniffi
- WiFiFoFum2
- WM6 Remote Desktop
- Google Maps (just haven't gotten the GPS to work on it)
- Microsoft Live Search
- Pocket Informant
- eWallet
- AE Button Plus
- Check Notifications (I think this caused ActiveSync to stop working so I would caution against installing this)
- Magic Button
- Resco File Explorer/RegistryAddon/FTP Addon
- SmallMenu Plus
- Total Commander
- VGAToggle (buggy aesthetics but no system issues as of yet)
- VJBigPhoner
- Gentimer (just installed and testing still)
Edit #1: Just installed 'HIMILAYA WM2k5 Screen Rotate Fix v1.1' which so far works as expected.
Let me know if you need specific versions for any listed items.
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I have manage to quite a lot of programs working, yes some have bug and side effect, but there is always a solution to it. Pocket hack master works too. Actually you will find most of the good application out there works fine with Ameo, there is only very small amount that doesn't work
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maybe you made some special thing, maybe related other sw in your athena, with it. In my case extend aditional seconds the startup and frozen it. Tested all the possible configurations of speed and memory.
For me this program doesn't provide any help on speed or performance except nice rings when start -if doesn't frozen-. Previously, in my universal it was great, but not in x7500, but obviously is my case...
beginner said:
maybe you made some special thing, maybe related other sw in your athena, with it. In my case extend aditional seconds the startup and frozen it. Tested all the possible configurations of speed and memory.
For me this program doesn't provide any help on speed or performance except nice rings when start -if doesn't frozen-. Previously, in my universal it was great, but not in x7500, but obviously is my case...
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you must disable internal auto scale.....
wu5262 said:
you must disable internal auto scale.....
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pocket hack master disable automatically all the extensions, did you make it yourself?
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pocket hack master disable automatically all the extensions, did you make it yourself?
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no, you just need to go to setting to disable internel scale, pretty simple
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no, you just need to go to setting to disable internel scale, pretty simple
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mine hasn't that option (or I can't find it). It is htc x7500 and local language. Rom is 1.25.412.2. I think it manages automatically the performance under battery and not needed aditional magmt.
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mine hasn't that option (or I can't find it). It is htc x7500 and local language. Rom is 1.25.412.2. I think it manages automatically the performance under battery and not needed aditional magmt.
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i'ts the PHM setting not the device setting.
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i'ts the PHM setting not the device setting.
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ufff ... thanks. sorry I look stupid.
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ufff ... thanks. sorry I look stupid.
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no worry, good luck with your CPU scaling, report back the result pls
ltxda said:
The following is a list of programs that I've installed on my x7500 which haven't yeilded any problems:
- Vito Audio Notes
- CorePlayer
- PocketXMRadio
- SlingPlayer Mobile
- IM+
- pRSSreader
- Sniffi
- WiFiFoFum2
- WM6 Remote Desktop
- Google Maps (just haven't gotten the GPS to work on it)
- Microsoft Live Search
- Pocket Informant
- eWallet
- AE Button Plus
- Check Notifications (I think this caused ActiveSync to stop working so I would caution against installing this)
- Magic Button
- Resco File Explorer/RegistryAddon/FTP Addon
- SmallMenu Plus
- Total Commander
- VGAToggle (buggy aesthetics but no system issues as of yet)
- VJBigPhoner
- Gentimer (just installed and testing still)
Let me know if you need specific versions for any listed items.
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thanks for the replies
Are the apps above all the latest versions?
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thanks for the replies
Are the apps above all the latest versions?
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Don't think so. Let me know if you're interested in knowing the version of any app in particular.
Wifi troubles
I don't know if this is your case but since I replaced the jasjar with HTC I have at home wifi network access problems some times. It navigates by internet without issues but when I try to access to other pc disks shared times it sees and times not.
Some infraestructure -pc, access points, ..., no changes-
with the last version of resco explorer was impossible to share information with other pc, with the previous one is intermitent. And same problem with the software for printing in the network, times see the shared resources and times not.
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with the last version of resco explorer was impossible to share information with other pc, with the previous one is intermitent. And same problem with the software for printing in the network, times see the shared resources and times not.
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I'm using Resco Explorer 2005 and having no problems using WLAN shared drive etc (other than it not remembering the password for my NAS but it always did that.)
Phoenix Studio 1.1 works, but you need to make sure you're in portrait mode and exit it before attaching the keyboard, otherwise touchscreen input goes a bit wrong and you'll have to exit the application by starting another one and going to the "Running Programs" panel.
Sounds good, too, with the speakers in the Ameo!
Pocket Commodore Plus4 works quite nicely on it for BASIC, but the emulation drops to cripplingly slow speeds when any input is used - shameful for what should be one of the fastest devices on the market.
Hello everyone.
This is my first post. Actually, I added this as a reply on a thread but it's so long and covers so many areas I thought I'd create a new thread from it, if that is ok.
Here are some answers to people's questions on various threads about the 614c ROM images, and my comments particularly on the various ROMs out there.
Here's a link to the latest WM6.1 ROM from a Russian gentleman yevg001 who creates them.
Here's a link to the latest hp official WM6.0 ROM.
1) Yes, you can flash to yevg001 israpda WM6.1 ROMs and then back to the hp WM6.0 ROM from the hp website as often as you like. Flashing from an SD card (not SDHC) has worked reliably several times on my three 614c phones, and flashing using the hp software also works fine (it's much slower because it loads the ROM down a USB cable).
2) The big difference between the yevg001 ROM and the hp ROM is that the hp ROM contains an update to the device firmware, to v0.88 (the latest version). This is of interest if you still have firmware v0.77 (the previous and originally released version). The yevg001 ROMs do not affect your firmware version.
3) If you apply the hp ROM, you cannot get back to v0.77 firmware - I don't think the hp installer will downgrade you, even if you have an old hp ROM image.
4) Why might you want to downgrade to v0.77 device firmware? Because v0.88, while better in numerous ways, has one critical defect: it does not properly support call waiting. When a second call is received (and you hear the beeps in your ear), the active call is affected in that the person you are talking to cannot hear you - and usually hangs up because he/she things you have lost the line. It's very annoying. Other than this, the firmware is better and more stable, due to various minor bug fixes. Fewer missed calls, fewer crashes.
5) Ok, putting aside device firmware and thinking of software... the latest yevg001 ROM is based on hp software image 1.01.04, the latest image at time of writing. yevg001 has also added a few little software applets into the image, but you don't need to use any of these. Obviously, you cannot uninstall them as they are in the ROM, but they also therefore don't take up any usable space.
6) The touchFLO interface is optional. You can easily deactivate it. It looks quite pretty but I have to say I don't like it, so I've deactivated it just by unchecking it in Today settings.
7) The yevg001 WM 6.1 build (I'm using his v1.6) is very good. I have only noticed one major problem with it. The phone is faster than ever before (and I've tried a lot of ROMs). It is quite stable - a couple of crashes but not noticeably more than the hp ROM. The WM6.1 ROM is entirely in English (with the exception that Yevgeny has added in Russian T9 support - not much use without Russian character set). English T9 works as normal.
8) I have also noticed improved battery life. With the latest hp 1.01.04 WM6.0 ROM, I usually get through four fully charged batteries in 24 hours. With the yevg001 v1.6 WM 6.1 ROM, I only get through three. Yes, I'm quite a heavy user but this is a good improvement.
9) The major problem I mentioned in point 7, which won't affect everyone, is that yevg001's ROM does not allow concurrent voice and data usage on a 3G or HSDPA network. How bad is that? Not all 3G phones support this and it is one of the best features of the 614c... My guess is that yevg001 does not even realise this because there is no (or nearly no) 3G in Russia - at least there wasn't last time I was in Moscow in April/May. Basically, if you have any data connection active at the time you place or receive a call, the phone just abruptly drops the data connection. It re-establishes it fine after your call, but no concurrent usage. **If any Russian forum user is reading this, please could you post to yevg001 and ask him if he can address this?**
10) Other experiences based on my regular usage:
a) Bluetooth works fine, neither better nor worse than the standard HP build. I use several BT headsets for calls and also listen to music using A2DP. The A2DP connection seems more stable under WM6.1. In general on the 614c the BT sound level is too low, it does seems a bit lower still with the yevg001 ROM but it was a problem already.
b) Wi-fi works fine, no problems at all with b or g networks.
c) The PIE browser seems to have been slightly improved under WM6.1.
d) The threaded SMS is fantastic! And better than the iphone too because it allows you to delete and to forward individual messages within the thread. The email client seems to be unchanged.
e) I use tomtom navigator 6.3 (western europe) a lot. It works well.
f) Getting a GPS fix can take more than five minutes from cold. If you've used it before on the same day, it's usually less than a minute. I have always found that the 614c is slower to get a fix than the old 6915 which I believe many 614c users upgraded from.
g) Google Maps also works really well, with GPS, and using HSDPA the 614c is fast enough to keep up with your position on a zoomed-in satellite photo while travelling in a car at 30mph (no I wasn't driving!).
h) The media player is ok, I do wish it would read the album artwork out of the mp3 metadata, but that's a slightly off topic observation.
i) The camera is shockingly slow. I use it rarely. The autofocus works quite well.
j) I've had no problems with lots of 8GB SDHC cards.
k) Battery life battery life battery life. The Achilles heel of the 614c. See point 8 above.
m) Activesync seems to work more quickly and more reliably under the WM6.1 ROM than previously.
n) Voice Commander is rubbish. Why do they bother? It takes ages to start up, only works from American accents, is generally slow and intrusive (over other open windows) and is unreliable. MS Voice Command was much better.
Hope all this is interesting! Let me know what you think and if you've got any questions I'll do my best to answer them.
Cheers,
hipppo
p.s. Update as of 22 December:
In case you are looking to download the very latest ROM from the Russian expert yevg001, here it is:
http://rapidshare.com/files/174859341/614c_WM6.1_20270_v1.4_rev1.1.rar.html
The password is "israpda.com" (without the quotes).
Yevgeny only created this ROM in the last couple of days and I believe it is based on the latest hp build - he says it is his newest and most stable WM6.1 ROM yet.
I haven't tried it yet.
Merry Christmas
hipppo
Cool, I use also the yevg001's ROM , It work very well. Does someone try his extended battery ? His look unchange? or it look like the Axim X30 with his extended battery?
My experience.
I do agree with the comments. I might add another issue - some of the programs based on netCF don't work - they report errors. I installed netCF3.5 but the problem still persists.
Hi,
I just wanted to thank you for this very detailed post.
It answered a lot of my questions!
Have HP categorically said they won't be releasing an official 6.1 ROM?
Thanks,
Adam
In my Ipaq 614C the word-completion features does not with on-screen keyboard. It's normally cauby by XT9? XT9 work well with the physical keyboard.
vgbvn said:
Cool, I use also the yevg001's ROM , It work very well. Does someone try his extended battery ? His look unchange? or it look like the Axim X30 with his extended battery?
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i ve bought the extended battery from HP and i have to say that it reallly enhance the use of the 614c ! i haven't really measured but i would say it last 2-3 times later than with the actual battery, using this 6.1 rom. the only drawback is that the phone is now bigger...
In my opinion, it's better to buy another standart battery and charger for it. I used to own a samsung i600 with two batteries - normal and extended and i had a separate charger for the battery. The only problem was, that i had to change the battery cover everytime i change the battery, which is not ery convenient. I think they sell a charger for about 5-6$ so you just charge the other battery and put it in your pocket. If you want to, you can buy two batteries. The ipaq is bulky enough with the normal battery.
HP said that "there aren't any devices made by HP with WM6.1 at the moment so they will have to make tests if the ipaq 610 is compatable with wm 6.1 and then think of releasing update". IMHO this means something like "We are not going to release wm 6.1 update if you want an official wm 6.1 phone go buy something else" . Of course it's compatable with wm 6.1 and it's working much better with it, but they have to pay $$$ to Microsoft so they can use wm 6.1 and they probably won't do that. The truth is, that the ipaq is cheaper then most of the other devices with similar hardware. I don't think that of they release an udate it will be better than the russian rom. The battery drains because you have a very, very fast CPU. I tested it with XcpuScalar and it plays 320x240 MP4 video with decent quality when clocked at 104MHZ. Now you can imagine the excessive power of the CPU, which is utilized at maximum only when playing QUAKE 2 or some playstation emulator, or when using SKYPE.
thanks for the infos but i can't register there to download a rom.what can we do for this?i don't speak russian
Latest Russian ROM
Hello everyone,
In case you are looking to download the very latest ROM from the Russian expert yevg001, here it is:
http://rapidshare.com/files/174859341/614c_WM6.1_20270_v1.4_rev1.1.rar.html
Yevgeny only created this ROM in the last couple of days and I believe it is based on the latest hp build - he says it is his newest and most stable WM6.1 ROM yet.
I haven't tried it yet.
axlastro said:
In my opinion, it's better to buy another standart battery and charger for it. I used to own a samsung i600 with two batteries - normal and extended and i had a separate charger for the battery. The only problem was, that i had to change the battery cover everytime i change the battery, which is not ery convenient. I think they sell a charger for about 5-6$ so you just charge the other battery and put it in your pocket. If you want to, you can buy two batteries. The ipaq is bulky enough with the normal battery.
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i think that i' ll buy this cradle from Brando:
http://shop.brando.com.hk/prod_detail.php?prod_id=02686
it 'll enables me to charge the high capacity battery and the normal battery...
I installed the last ROM update from this thread..
until now, i still haven't found any bugs.. does anyone have found a bugs in this ROM?
I am still using the previous ROM, not the latest one that my link above goes to.
In the previous ROM, the most frustrating bug is the inability to do voice and data at the same time. Initiating or receiving a call immediately terminates the data connection. This is very frustrating - the best thing about 3G is being able to sync emails and so on while talking on the phone, particularly when using the 614c as a high-speed modem for your laptop.
Sadly, no more of this for me... the benefits of the Russian WM6.1 ROM outweigh this (albeit quite big) disadvantage.
Hi all
I installed the last ROM (20757) update from this thread and i dont see any news progams inside :
has also added a few little software applets into the image, but you don't need to use any of these.
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I found only basics HP and Microsoft programs on this rom.
Thanks
mire93600 said:
Hi all
I installed the last ROM (20757) update from this thread and i dont see any news progams inside :
I found only basics HP and Microsoft programs on this rom.
Thanks
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That's the beauty of your iPAQ,
you can tweak it in any way you like.
mine after I installed new ROM >> very stable (recomended)
miroslav.turek said:
Yevg001 has his iPAQ back from service and prepared new ROM:
OS 5.2.20757 (Build 20757.1.4.0) Ver 1.5
http://rapidshare.com/files/163730994/614c_wm61_20757.rar
Password: israpda.com
ROM was tested only one day.
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tweak with usefull application:
** TouchFLO2D/Manilla2D Skins
with a little bit change assigning voice commander button into <scroll right> function
herg62123 said:
ALL DEVICES (VERSION 19b) WITH YOUTUBE ON INTERNET WIDGET
RAPIDSHARE.........................MEGAUPLOAD
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>>> it's a zip file, Install application #09 only **09 Manila2D_0.11.all.devices**
then install Manilla 2D Customizer by mpenguin14 to configure it:
mpenguin14 said:
Manilla 2D Customizer (M2DC)
LATEST DOWNLOAD HERE (January 30 v0.28.233)
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then find the skin >> here
WARNING >> not all skins works well.. if you find not working skin, you can always try others.
and many others usefull and stable application:
Opera9.5.2392_WWE, AudioManager_2.0_1819.2129, and others (Install application inside Manila2D_0.11.all.devices** zip file)
Resco file & Registry Explorer 2008
usefull app from lots of http://www.dotfred.net/
(recommended) SH4Ys Pim Backup 2.8.CAB >> Backup tool Messages, Contacts, Logs, Tasks, appointment >> download here
AND MANY OTHERS APPLICATION !!!!!
(credits to all developer)
Move outlook message to storage card
found an article very useful for heavy e-mail user (like me) >> here so you can download large attachment file.
here it is:
Using a registry editor, create or edit the following entries:
HKLM\\System\Inbox\Settings\PropertyPath with value \Storage Card\Messaging
HKLM\\System\Inbox\Settings\AttachPath with value \Storage Card\Messaging\Attachments
Then move the entire Messaging folder under \Windows to \Storage Card and do a soft reset.
do carefully, i'm a newbie
One caveat is that you need to disable the "Messaging" Today plugin before your soft reset. If you don't do this, a second "\Storage Card" folder will be created in your ROM and your real Storage Card will be renamed "\Storage Card2", which isn't very useful is it?
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to edit registry >> use PHM Registry Editor to your Pocket PC to edit the registry...
to disable the Messaging Plugin, click on Start, Settings, Today, Items and untick the Messaging option...
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anw, I'm using resco explorer to edit registry
hipppo said:
I am still using the previous ROM, not the latest one that my link above goes to.
In the previous ROM, the most frustrating bug is the inability to do voice and data at the same time. Initiating or receiving a call immediately terminates the data connection. This is very frustrating - the best thing about 3G is being able to sync emails and so on while talking on the phone, particularly when using the 614c as a high-speed modem for your laptop.
Sadly, no more of this for me... the benefits of the Russian WM6.1 ROM outweigh this (albeit quite big) disadvantage.
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Hi Hipppo,
do you have any news about a newer ROM that does not have this problem ?
after using it a while did you find any other problem related to theses cooked rom ?
are thoses new ROMs comming with NetCF3.5 or older ?
Hello Albertorrent,
I have stopped using the yevg001 ROM mentioned in my first posting and I am now using his latest ROM which I think is called Build 20270.1.3.1 v1.4 rev1.2.
I have found this ROM to be stable, no problems. I recommend it.
It allows concurrent voice and data usage.
I am afraid my limited technical knowledge does not allow me to understand your question about NetCF3.5.
hipppo
Thanks,
I ordered my phone monday so I Might have it at the end of the week.
I'll try this new rom.
net CF is usefull to run some applications that has been developped whith it.
I just know that some application cannot install and run if there is not the latest CF (3.5) instaled
for exemple this one :
http://www.retrobits.net/ppc/ppc.shtml
you can find it here :
http://www.pocketpcfreeware.com/fr/index.php?soft=1187
thanks
just google it
albertorrent - i have the netcf3.5 as a separate Cab and i install in on the SD card. I haven't noticed any problem using it that way. I think it was somewhere on the forum but you can always google it. If you can't find it i can e-mail it to you. Right now i don't have it installed and I don't miss it much but some programs require it. At the moment I'm using the latest official 6.0 rom and i find the machine quite stable and fast with it. I had the 1.6 version of the russian 6.1 rom but for now i'm with 6.0