Hardware close button... - JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General

Is it possible to assign a real close function to a hardware button?!
I am aware of the fact that you can set the functions of the four
hardware buttons and that there is an option "Ok/Close", but even
when I have Pocket Plus and Wisbar Advance installed, it still uses
the original Close function (which in fact just minimizes the application).
If it's possible to actually close an application by pressing for instance
the calendar button (the one under the "hang up" button), you can use
the phone for 80% of the time one handed. The start menu pops up
when you hold the calendar or contacts button and press the function
key and when you have an item highlighted, holding the function key
will bring up the option menu. Now I only want a way to actually close
an application by pressing a hardware button, cause the X button in
the right-top corner is a real pain in the......

I use AEBplus and I have SPB Plus 3.0 installed.
I assign the Calendar button as follows:
- press once for Agenda Fusion Week
- press twice for Close Application (not minimize)
- press three times for Suspend (equivalent to Power button)
It is really convenient.

But how do you assign "Close Application" to a button, cause I can't seem to find that option. Or is it because I'm using Pocket Plus 2.5, is it a new function in 3.0?

Ok, it's a function in Pocket Plus 3.0!! That makes me real happy . (Only it feels a bit unstable in comparison to 2.5, but thats what you get for messing with beta's)

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HW keys remapping

Is any useful way to remap the Green and Red Phone button and the volume slider button? I mean for launch application or any function. Thanx.
There are some such programs for volume slider.
The most simple I prefer is attached here.
Just put it to the \Windows\Startup folder. It just "unbind" slider but not remaps it to another buttons. This will allow to use slider as F6/F7 buttons in programs able to hook them e.g. Haali Reader...
Thanx
It seems to be ok but where did you attach it? On my MDA is no offered file to download at this time. ThankU.
I've got it
Ok. Now is the sheet with uploaded file appeared. I've got it and extracted it. After i run the *.exe file it does nothing. Why?
because it should do nothing
This utility just frees slider buttons from default binding to volume control.
If you have an application that understands F6/F7 hardware key pressings (slider up/slider down) you may bind these key in the program.
As for me - I use them to scroll text up and down in Haali Reader text reader program.
But (as I said above) there are another programs to use slider up/down control. Unfortunately I don't remeber where I saw these utilities - but they really exists
And, as far as I'm back to the Andes from (Blue Angel) - I think I will write another one specially for Himalaya/Andes.
Ok, let's wait some days. If there are any results - I'll post the report here
P.S.: BlueAngel is the best HW keys equipped device i've ever saw But...
Thanx once again
Thank you 4 ur help. Now i understand that. And what about the Phone buttons? Any ideas? Ex.I want to use red button as Ok/Close simulation. Any ideas how to do that? Thanks.
Nobody unmaps phone buttons. It is possible but unresonable because of HTC is a phone device also. But I'll implement this feature too.
OK
I will wait for it.
The very first (and buggy) try of HW remapping utility is done. The application setup is available HERE
After installing .CAB file go to Start -> Settings -> Buttons and see the changes...
DO NOT INSTALL THIS APPLICATION ON BLUE ANGEL!!!
It will hide four lower hardware buttons until hard reset!
1. This app was tested on Andes with WM2003se, but should work on Himalaya/Magican with WM2003 and above
2. You will lose the possibility to use hardware key mapping in other applications forl remapped buttons. I need to re-grab buttons from time to time because the system tries to thieve them from me
3. Currently I don't now how to emulate green and reed buttons functionality after unbinding them from the system.
4. I can count any number of button pressings (3,4,5...), but -
5. WinCE reserve codes for only 15 hardware buttons (40C1..40CF)
There are some ideas for future improvement. But it would be nice to know your thoughts.
Just to "stimulate": I can create settings screen during setup to allow flexible configuration where you will
- choose which buttons to handle and how many key pressings to detect;
- choose option to unbind and/or re-map volume and phone buttons
- ???
And let me take a time-brake for 2 days before next programming session
The utility is ready. It allows you to:
remap each standard hardware button to 2 or 3 "virtual", simulated via double or triple clicks;
use volume slider to simulate Up/Down direction keys or create additional "virtual" hardware buttons;
remap Red and Green phone buttons to 1,2 or 3 hardware buttons each.
In a result you may create up to 15 hardware buttons (system limit)
Just install program and check Start -> Settings -> Buttons.
Here is Oficial AEBPlus home page, full desktop-based setup (~27K) and Direct link to CAB file (~30K)
Well done!
Excellent software! Thank you once again for your work. Works very very well!
man this is great really like it
works perfect :lol:
Seems to work great. Haven't had it running long enough to see if the camera button will get stolen back (big problem for me on XDA IIi), but being able to map the volume is great.
In the next version any chance of adding an <enter> option like Vito Button Mapper which I think just sends a <carriage return> to select whatever is highlighted.
Is "<Ok/Close>" option in button settings applet not the same?
NO, <OK/Close> generally tends to close the current window rather than selecting whatever is highlighted.
Also whatever application keeps on stealing back the camera button is still doing it. I don't know if it is part of the UK O2 customisations or the core PocketPC Rom, but eventually whatever function is mapped to the Camera button gets re-mapped back to the camera. This also happened to me with the standard button mapper and Vito button manager. It's a little annoying since the camera button is the most usefully positioned, and it is also easily knocked, starting the camera at awkward times.
Ok, I'll add this option for camera button (a bit later, in a case other suggestions arrives).
As for the re-hooking button by camera application: AEBPlus initializes all of the buttons from time to time. Currently this take place every 30 seconds. So if you will wait a bit - all buttons should be re-grabbed again
This does not seem to help because whatever application that is resetting the camera does it in the same place as you are storing the button mappings. When I go into the Buttons Setup it will now say that the Camera button is mapped to the Camera.
Yes,I see... It looks like Camera application is a pushy application . The solution is to remap "normal" Camera HW button to 3 press instead of one, but I don't like this.
Anyway - utility was released.
New features: added option to emulate Enter key with Camera button.
Hi AE, your utility is great. It is very useful but SIMPLE and SMALL.
I used it instead of other button mapper software.
There're some issues need tobe improved:
1) Mapping "Green" and "Red" button:
Enable mapping when they're iddle only (phone function does not work).
E.g: I'd like using Red button to close running app. But in phone function, Red button is still used to hang-up the phone as original its function. Anytime I have a phone call, I can use Red button to cancel a outgoing/incoming call.
You can refer the program of mamaich in this web site.
2) Single press is too low:
I press a key one time and wait 5 secs or more until it works. It's too slow. Can you improve? Double-press is OK.
3) Press n hold:
Can you add "single press n hold" for all hardware-keys? I think "single press n hold (after 3-3.5 secs)" is more convenient than "double press" or "tribble press". Do you think so?
Hi AE, very usefull application! Is there any way that we can have an options screen, where we can change the key options we get after installing the app? That would be easier to edit our preferences if we want to make changes to our initial choices. Furthermore I added a Mortbutton to one of your simulated hard keys. Each Mortbutton can show a list of 12 apps for a buttonpress. That means That I can now bind more than 60 apps to the buttons in total! Very good for one-handed use of my Magician, thanks!

Button assignment. Any ideas?

The lack of hardware keys (without the keyboard attatched) on the x7501 was my biggest reservation while deciding to buy it. Now I'm having trouble with AEBPlus and HButton (would be perfect if I could use AEBPlus & assgn Hbuttons to the Long Press mode, but it doesn't work). I can't seem to get the flexibilty in button assignments like I had wiith my wizard, I think because a lot of the long keypresses are OS assigned and not UI available.
I don't want to start reg hacking in my random ways if someone has more experience, or better software ideas, and would be willing to share it.
(I keep my unit in the case without the buttons locked when it's in standby, so if I hit a hdwe key, I only have to do that once to get a specific Mortbutton menu up. 2 gestures to anything is my goal. Hbutton often can allow only 1, but I only get 2 keys out of it CommMgr/Record & Camera, my "IE" button longpress seems to be commandeered by VueFlo (cute but pretty useless). If I use that the AEBPlus doesn't seem to work on the other keys.)
UPDATE: I reinstalled AEBPlus, this time with the PC/Activesync installer instead of the cab. The cab installation I did didn't seem to change things. In any case, AEBPlus is working now.
Thanks!
Janis said:
The lack of hardware keys (without the keyboard attatched) on the x7501 was my biggest reservation while deciding to buy it. Now I'm having trouble with AEBPlus and HButton (would be perfect if I could use AEBPlus & assgn Hbuttons to the Long Press mode, but it doesn't work). I can't seem to get the flexibilty in button assignments like I had wiith my wizard, I think because a lot of the long keypresses are OS assigned and not UI available.
I don't want to start reg hacking in my random ways if someone has more experience, or better software ideas, and would be willing to share it.
(I keep my unit in the case without the buttons locked when it's in standby, so if I hit a hdwe key, I only have to do that once to get a specific Mortbutton menu up. 2 gestures to anything is my goal. Hbutton often can allow only 1, but I only get 2 keys out of it CommMgr/Record & Camera, my "IE" button longpress seems to be commandeered by VueFlo (cute but pretty useless). If I use that the AEBPlus doesn't seem to work on the other keys.)
Thanks!
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AEButton will generally do long presses, double presses, and triple presses... if they are available. As you mention, this seems to be a hardware problem. Example, the "e" (internet) button uses the long press to activate/deactivate the motion sensor within your browser.
As a former Wizard owner, I know where you are coming from. Remapping the "e", "record", and "Win" buttons has given me about 9 quick launches, one of which is WkTask which gives another 12 on a pop-up panel--not to mention showing all open windows on the top bar. Also, the big screen makes iLauncher usable. And I still use good-ole SmallMenu. So I'm doing OK with opening things quickly. But I do miss having all those button launches from the Wizard.
Doing better
HButton and AEBPlus don't play well together at all.
I'm on AEBPlus, post flash, and don't get any long-presses, but I have 3 possiblilities on each of the buttons. Along with MortButtons and actually using the CommMgr instead of hdwe keys, I seem to be getting along well enough.
I had the basic edit commands (select all, copy, cut, paste) assigned to a key in AEBPlus, and turn on/off BT and WiFi. That's what I miss. I use MortButtons for it now, so it's a two-step process, but it works.
The problem with "long keypress'es" for many buttons like Ok/Win/VueFlo etc) is caused by keyboard driver implementation and may not be resolved on application level. The button driver returns both "key was pressed" and "keys was released" events simultaneously, right after button was phisically released. So application could not define time period button was in pressed state to decide if it was long or short keypress...
As for BPlus configuration for my Athena (I have no keyboard at al and use bplus only):
* Button 2 (40C2): (IE button)
1: Call default handler
2: "Messaging"
3: "Notes"
* Button 3 (40C3): (wireless manager)
1: Rotate Screen
2: Show Actions Menu
3: Switch Flashlight Off/On
* OK key (4075):
1: Press Green Button
2: "Contacts"
3: "Calendar"
* Windows key (405B):
1: "Notes"
2: "File Explorer"
3: Show Actions Menu
* Enter/Action (000D):
1: Call default handler
Long: Task Manager
* Volume Up (0075):
Change volume or...
1: Volume Up
2: Backlight Up
Long: Backlight Level 10
* Volume Down (0076):
Change volume or...
1: Volume Down
2: Backlight Down
Long: Backlight Level 1
Action menu items:
Rotate Screen
Switch BlueTooth off/on
Switch WiFi Off/On
Trigger Online
Disable "Power off if not used"...
Device Lock
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AE, love the program but have one problem. The "ok/close" function is never "close", just always "ok".
The only way that I know of to map the OK button to really be "ok/close" is to configure an hbutton key to be "ok/close" and then use AEbplus to make that hbutton.lnk to the OK key. It's a bit convoluted and requires both programs being loaded and running (hbutton uses more memory than aebplus), but it's the only way to make it work.
Any way to fix the "ok/close" function in AEbplus? Even when there is an "X" in the upper right corner, AEbplus only minimizes the app, never closes.
Has anyone tried remapping or assigning the keyboard buttons to launch applications?
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Is it possible to get the Half-Press-Function of the Camera-Button assigned for normal working(windows-mode, not camera-mode)??
greetz

1 button 2 function app?

hi i remeber there was a free app that allowed to set one hardware button to have 2 functions ie short press and long press, does anyone know where the link/post is for the app? or even a app i can buy?
AeButton Plus
http://ae.inc.ru/aebplus.php
fards said:
AeButton Plus
http://ae.inc.ru/aebplus.php
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cheers mate
Wow - this aebplus is the most useful app I have found for the xperia.. definitely worth the $7 i paid for registration. i hate relying on the touchscreen since one, it is more difficult to find the buttons, and two, the touchscreen doesn't always respond immediately or accurately. navigating using the crappy windows media interface is a thing of the past and works better than inconsistent navigation of the touchflo or spb shell interfaces.
here's how i've set mine up so that i almost never have to use the touchscreen and can do everything in a few button presses
left silver key - press once - opens up messaging to get to e-mails
left silver key - press twice - opens up start menu (can get to the five or so programs stickied there or go to programs and settings with the d-pad)
left silver key - long press - opens up comm manager (not needed much since i can toggle wifi and bluetooth with the action list)
right silver key - press once - MS voice command
right silver key - press twice - open task manager to switch b/w apps
ok button - press twice - opens up action list (rotate screen, toggle bluetooth/wifi, soft reset, turn off
end button - press twice - close active application
Hello,
I also bought this usful application. But I have problems to configure the "panel" button.
I added the panel button and configure it. When I press the button, the configured action is executed, but the panel is also still executed
Any ideas?
stefan
SCtud said:
Wow - this aebplus is the most useful app I have found for the xperia.. definitely worth the $7 i paid for registration. i hate relying on the touchscreen since one, it is more difficult to find the buttons, and two, the touchscreen doesn't always respond immediately or accurately. navigating using the crappy windows media interface is a thing of the past and works better than inconsistent navigation of the touchflo or spb shell interfaces.
here's how i've set mine up so that i almost never have to use the touchscreen and can do everything in a few button presses
left silver key - press once - opens up messaging to get to e-mails
left silver key - press twice - opens up start menu (can get to the five or so programs stickied there or go to programs and settings with the d-pad)
left silver key - long press - opens up comm manager (not needed much since i can toggle wifi and bluetooth with the action list)
right silver key - press once - MS voice command
right silver key - press twice - open task manager to switch b/w apps
ok button - press twice - opens up action list (rotate screen, toggle bluetooth/wifi, soft reset, turn off
end button - press twice - close active application
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i think you may be stuck with the panels button being unmappable right now. let's hope someone can figure it out though.
might be best to speak to the apps developers to get X1 support built in to allow the panel button remapping.
I sent Alexander an email and he answered yesterday. I got the following answer:
My understanding is, that he is not able to solve the problem because the button is processed on driver level. So we have to find a solution to disable this part of the driver which sounds not so easy to handle....
Bad news for me because I didn't use the panels...
stefan
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Hello Stefan,
Thanks, it is always nice to know if you find this utility useful.
As for the “panel” button. The behaviour you describe most likely caused by “panel” button is processed on a driver level. This makes it impossible to disable original functionality by method BPlus uses.
So you could just search for another solution and it probably is in forums already. I have no X1 somewhere around to play with (unfortunately) but could suggest 2 ideas:
- Usually this “driver-level” functionality finally starts an application placed in /Windows/ folder. You could find this application (or link sometimes) and overwrite with “empty” application or link. Sometime it will require .CAB file creation due to ROM file protection.
- or default application to run on “panel” press could be specified in registry. Just search the registry for it and change to do nothing.
There are other approaches for “default” action possible but above are most simple and well-known.
Regards,
Alexander
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fards said:
might be best to speak to the apps developers to get X1 support built in to allow the panel button remapping.
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SCtud said:
right silver key - press once - MS voice command
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I can't see Voice Command showing up as a possible mapping. I had it mapped to the right silver key before I installed AEBPlus but it does not show in the dropdowns of AEBPlus as an app or anything else. Have I missed something?
http://chomikuj.pl/xcoom/HTC+Touch+Diamond/Programy/HButton/HButton_2.3_WM5.CAB
HButton
1 button 5 app
norm2002 said:
I can't see Voice Command showing up as a possible mapping. I had it mapped to the right silver key before I installed AEBPlus but it does not show in the dropdowns of AEBPlus as an app or anything else. Have I missed something?
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you gotta have the setting for single click to run the application. the file you want to run is in \Program Files\MS Voice Command\voicecmd.exe
SCtud said:
Wow - this aebplus is the most useful app I have found for the xperia.. definitely worth the $7 i paid for registration. i hate relying on the touchscreen since one, it is more difficult to find the buttons, and two, the touchscreen doesn't always respond immediately or accurately. navigating using the crappy windows media interface is a thing of the past and works better than inconsistent navigation of the touchflo or spb shell interfaces.
here's how i've set mine up so that i almost never have to use the touchscreen and can do everything in a few button presses
left silver key - press once - opens up messaging to get to e-mails
left silver key - press twice - opens up start menu (can get to the five or so programs stickied there or go to programs and settings with the d-pad)
left silver key - long press - opens up comm manager (not needed much since i can toggle wifi and bluetooth with the action list)
right silver key - press once - MS voice command
right silver key - press twice - open task manager to switch b/w apps
ok button - press twice - opens up action list (rotate screen, toggle bluetooth/wifi, soft reset, turn off
end button - press twice - close active application
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HI,
What is the version of MS voice command are you using?
SCtud said:
Wow - this aebplus is the most useful app I have found for the xperia.. definitely worth the $7 i paid for registration. i hate relying on the touchscreen since one, it is more difficult to find the buttons, and two, the touchscreen doesn't always respond immediately or accurately. navigating using the crappy windows media interface is a thing of the past and works better than inconsistent navigation of the touchflo or spb shell interfaces.
here's how i've set mine up so that i almost never have to use the touchscreen and can do everything in a few button presses
left silver key - press once - opens up messaging to get to e-mails
left silver key - press twice - opens up start menu (can get to the five or so programs stickied there or go to programs and settings with the d-pad)
left silver key - long press - opens up comm manager (not needed much since i can toggle wifi and bluetooth with the action list)
right silver key - press once - MS voice command
right silver key - press twice - open task manager to switch b/w apps
ok button - press twice - opens up action list (rotate screen, toggle bluetooth/wifi, soft reset, turn off
end button - press twice - close active application
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How're you doing with battery life? Some people notice their battery dies quicker, some don't and I unfortunately fall into the former group. It's definitely one of the most useful thing I have ever bought but had to uninstall as my battery was draining fairly quicker than usual, shame though.
You can also try my X1ButtonMapper app that can be found in this forum. It allows for assigning long press actions for softkey and volume rocker. Besides that, it allows for Ok short and long press remapping, mapping missing Fn+Key, Setting Ctrl on keyboard and some more. It is for free and I haven't had and heard about any battery drain issue.
I recommend X1ButtonMapper it extends the keyboard and other buttons. Check it out!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=464595

Buttons assignment

I would like to program a couple of shortcuts but using the
START | SETTINGS | BUTTONS app.
It shows 5 buttons (plus Button 1 Hold)..but I can't make them work!
The first five are just labelled "button". So what button do these refer to?
The last is labelled "button 1(Hold)" which appears to be the call pickup/start button.
Can anyone shed light on the other five buttons??
Thanks
Are you using Spb Pocket Plus? If you are then this may be be adding the four additional buttons. I have no idea if they refer to the phone up/down, home and back buttons. What I wanted was the Volume Up/Down mapping.
I need to get round to contacting Spb support as there are lots of problems with Pocket Plus.
Based on the recommendations of others, I am using AE Button Plus.
No - I'm using the buit-in WM6 buttons assignment app.
The reason I asked was that I only have the Button 1 (Hold) showing. Spb adds in another4 buttons when their Extended Button functionality is enabled
Bump - I too would love to know how to assign other buttons to apps, in addition to the Call Pickup button (Long Press). I currently have this assigned to Comm Manager rather than Voice Dial.
If Button1 (Long Press) can be assigned to apps, then surely the Home and Back (Long Press) can be remapped too?
Got this device yesterday and am completely in love with it, but already finding it tedious to navigate to commonly used apps like Comm Manager and Camera.
AEB+ is the best solution: http://ae.inc.ru/aebplus.php
I have volume up mapped to: 1 press = up, 2 press = volume up, long press = plamp
volume down: 1 press = down, 2 press = volume down, long press = resco recorder
and OK/home on double press to rotate 90 degrees on toogle
AEB+ is commercial but the unregistered version has almost 100% functionality. I bought it as it's great even though I don't use the extra functions !
Excellent, thanks very much.
Still bugs me that the extra buttons don't appear in the built-in buttons assignment menu though. I think it's an oversight on HTC's part rather than intentional.

Can I assign the Home button with the startmenu?

Hello,
I don't like this Home button on the Touch HD. I can get back to the today screen with the normal End Call button.
I am missing a startmenu button which I got used to over the last years. And the startmenu on this display is so far away from my thumb, that it makes one handed usage difficult.
Is there an easy way to reassign the Home buttion to the startmenu? The default Settings-->Buttons dialog offers only one long press customization. Can I enable the other buttons to get changed there?
Use aebuttons or mobilemagic, search a little for
A tool to change the buttons is AEButton Plus.
But the home key cannot be changed so far.
I concur with AE Button plus not being able to assign/reassign the home button
This is bad.
So we have to wait for a solution. I hope someone works on this.
The end call button and the home button are redundant.
Why have 2 buttons that primarily do the same thing? I know that the home button takes you to the main screen during a call where as pressing the end call will end it. But you could easily press the on-screen end call button, thus freeing up the home button to something more useful or customisable.
I guess HTC need to keep thier devices "conventional" looking to avoid scaring off potential pda newcomers!

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