02 PAYG internet access billing - Networking

Does anyone know how 02 would bill you for GPRS if you use a PAYG sim and use GPRS?
Im thinking of stopping my O2 contract and converting to PAYG and using the settings shown elsewhere to connect to GPRS.
Is anyone else doing this?
Thanks
Gordon

GPRS on PAYGO
Been there done that.
if you use a PAYGO sim in your xda you will not get full internet access.

I thought you could use a different proxy port ?
What about the article in Tekguru?
http://www.tekguru.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=27155#27155
Apparently it is possible.
Gordon

I have full internet access, found the details on this very forum. Unfortunately, only works for web pages, not messenger etc.
Conect through the proxy: 193.113.200.195 on port 8080 and it works a treat.

Thanks
Do you get billed for it?
If so does it just disapear off of your balance?
Gordon

Having the same probs as Kevin been told several times now can not get internet on xda with pasyg just o2 active. even followed several pasyg settings and still no joy ??

I don't know how I get billed for it, but I'm sure I do. Just looking at web pages doesn't cost too much I'd expect though.
Here's what I've done.
To connect:
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1. Set up a new work connection:
Name: Whatever you want, I normally use "O2 GPRS"
Address: payandgo.o2.co.uk
Username: payandgo
Password: password
2. Go back to the connections menu, tap "set up proxy server"
Click the two checkboxes, enter the proxy server address:
193.113.195.200
Then tap on advanced. On the top row you'll se something like:
HTTP 193.113.195.200 80
Change the last column so the row looks like:
HTTP 193.113.195.200 8080
3. Go and impress your mates in the pub by showing them mobile porn.

Do you have any idea what this surfing costs ?
I know that simple WAP pages cost about 1 pence per page.
Thanks

Does anybody know the cost of pay as you go browsing ?

i use an o2 genie sim card (payg) and get 1MB of browsing free everytime i top up with £10, as for cost per MB am not certain but it may be as much as £1.35 per MB?
anyone know for sure?
R

i,m using 1 of those 300 free txt sim's and have yet to be charged for any gprs activity. use somewhere around 3-5mb p/month for the last 8-10 months.

Related

FREE GPRS

Hi,
Have anyone experience free GPRS?
I DO
Yes I have and still on it 8)
Its free somehow? :?:
Anyone else have got it too?
What do you mean, all GPRS is free, isn't it? :shock:
GPRS Data Plan
No, GPRS isn't free. You need to go into a data plan
depending on the network that operates it. Nothing
is free in this world especially with telecomunication.
Some might have Free GPRS maybe on a trial run etc.
on my nokia i have a BT genie simcards this gives me unlimited wap and gprs for free also 300txts per month its not the newer 02 online sim they only allow 300min of wap/gprs....
anyway i used to use gprs on wa all the time on my 3510i then i got my xda...
using the GPRS connection for the net dont work for me but yet works with the wap explorer but if i use my wap dialup conection i get free internet useasge but i think its only like 20kb/s which is quite cool really shame it dont work on gprs though
John - just goes to show how little you know about what you're posting on then, doesn't it?
Quest
Hi Anon,
Are you trying to tell me you can get free GPRS
on your O2xda? I would love to know how you do it
then......that is if you care to share here.
WAP over GPRS on O2 incurs no charge, you need to speak to your network as this is not something that is true across all networks.
Quest
Dont worry, I already found a way to use GPRS on my
O2Xda surfing the internet for FREE.
Would you care to illuminate the rest of us Quest? We like free!
Free Mobile Web
Does Anyone know how i can get Free Mobile Web over GPRS. If anyone does then PLEASE let me know.
Did you know the word "gullible" does not appear in any dictionary?
Free GPRS (maybe...)
I sometimes hear that if you configure the WAP/MMS access point name instead of the internet one, you may get fee connectivity since WAP is usually billed on the service level, and MMS is billed per transaction. If you don't get IP, you may be able to get free mobile-to-mobile traffic, or maybe even find a proxy which will allow browsing.
I'm just relaying what I heard here. I have not tested anything, I do not recommend doing this, and I definitely recommend not assuming something is free until you get the bill. Your mileage may vary beyond all comprehension.
I found some web pages talked about o2 offering free WAP and txt messages... also mention of o2 as genie etc. This may all be old news?
O2 Wap / Mobile Internet settings:
Homepage: http://wap.O2.co.uk/
Dialup access number: 915000
Gateway (IP) address: 193.113.200.195
Username: O2wap
Password: password
Session type: Continuous / permanent
Port number: 9201
http://www.filesaveas.com/psionwap.html
Freebies
Hi.
I have the old genie free wap access too. Until about a month ago, O2 allowed access through port 80 (WEB http) and 6201 (Wap wsp) but they have just blocked port 80 so I can now only get the crappy o2 active site and for anyhing else i need to go through the 'find' option at the bottom of the o2 Active site. Problem is I can't get half the bloomin' wap sites I used to get and I resent having to use the active home page to view anything, I don't like moaning because I only pay £10 a month and get free wap dialup over gsm (no gprs) but i think it's a bit below the belt to just block me. anyone else having this problem?
Is there anyway to tunel through 6201 or can I use a different proxy for http traffic (o2 give 193.113.200.195, which has stopped working) cos I'd like to be able to get my active sync working mobile again.
HELP ME!!!!!!
my gprs is almost free... $4.99USD/month
only ports 80/110/25/995/443 and some other port are open though... enough for me.
Re: Freebies
Hi, This is my first posting on this forum, so I hope I understand the question properly. I'm using a very old Genie (O2) SIM card. This gives no GPRS, but practically unlimited GSM (cellular line) dialup WAP access via shortcode 915000 or 07712927927.
Username o2wap
Password password
My GSM WAP proxy settigs are:
HTTP 193.113.200.195 Port 8080
WAP 193.113.200.195 Port 9201
SECURE WAP 193.113.200.200 Port 9203
SOCKS 193.113.200.195 Port 1080
I'm using an i-Mate PDA 2K (Blue Angel)
I can surf WAP and web pages, including some secure servers, e.g. Amazon, but since some time last month, it hasn't let me log in to this forum or my internet banking account.
I find sometimes my links to WAP pages in Favourites stop working; they work again after I delete and re-create them. I find links to WAP pages only work if they begin wsp://
and I suspect mine got changed to http:// during synchronisation with ActiveSync.
Hope this helps
John
Posted using i-Mate PDA 2K (Blue Angel)
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ROM DATE 09/27/04
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outz said:
my gprs is almost free... $4.99USD/month
only ports 80/110/25/995/443 and some other port are open though... enough for me.
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With the current weakness of the dollar, $4.95 will get you about 1.2MB of GPRS use in rip-off britain with rip-off O2 currently!
Nigel
Tmo USA 'Allyoucaneat"data for $19.99 per month. It's a brave New World!! :wink:..... but then the TV isn't that great...
geting wap on the xda 2s
hi im new to this, i have a XDA 2s using o2 payasyougo. i get 300 free wap time and 2mb GPRS. i have no problem connecting to WAP and GPRS but i cant seem to view any web pages or WAP pages. nothing loads up or it just says error conecting to server. i installed a WAP browser Klondike but even that doesnt load anything up not even 02Active. But i can view web and WAP pages through "MobileWeb" connection settings, but that CHARGES ALOT PLEASE HELP...

GPRS PROBLEM HELP - CHINA MOBILE - QTEK 9100

My mobile have been bought from germany but install a English OS
ROM VERSION 1.1.7.5
ROM DATE 9/22/05
RADIO 01.01.10
PROTOCOL 4.0.13.16
ext ROM 1.1.7.105
Model Wiza200
I configured the Gprs According to the CM (china mobile) settings
AP= CMWAP
IP 10.0.0.172 : 9201
Wap.monternet.com
apparently the device connect to GPRS but when I try to surf it say : THE PAGE CANNOT BE FOUND CHECK THE NAME AND TRY AGAIN;
but in fact the GPRS is connected (I can see the icon in the top)
I used the same SIM card on my OLd NOKIA and it works
I really dunno anymore how to solve it
Maybe some mistakes in the configuration....where I should add the port?
AP= CMWAP
IP 10.0.0.172 : 9201
Wap.monternet.com
Looks like WAP settings... Try to find GPRS settings, usually they are different.
Button said:
AP= CMWAP
IP 10.0.0.172 : 9201
Wap.monternet.com
I think it is WAP settings... Try to find GPRS settings, usually they are different.
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still connect but cannot surf....do you think can be a ROM version problem?
or some settings I need on the change on the Connection--->Network cards??
I'm desperate
Settings-Connections-Add a new modem connection:
My Connection - (Enter name)
Cellular Line (GPRS)
Next - Access point name (ask your operator, i think not CMWAP)
Next - User name & Password (ask your operator)
Advanced (ask your operator)
Finish
Soft Reset
just launch your ie :wink:
Button said:
Settings-Connections-Add a new modem connection:
My Connection - (Enter name)
Cellular Line (GPRS)
Next - Access point name (ask your operator, i think not CMWAP)
Next - User name & Password (ask your operator)
Advanced (ask your operator)
Finish
Soft Reset
just launch your ie :wink:
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still not work...what can be ? ROM software problem or hardware???
Your setting is for WAP and MMS, not GPRS.
Go to 'Setting', 'Connection', 'Connections', Add a new modem connection, Select a modem 'Cellular Line (GPRS, 3G), APN: cmnet, then leave all other fills blank.
access point: cmnet
home page:none
now it says cannot connect to CMNET
by the wat thanx for ur help
Some mistakes in the previous messages.
As a reminder, you can do WAP over GSM or over GPRS as well.
And you can do web surfing or other applications like Skype for instance or other protocols like FTP over GSM or GPRS as well also.
So, to sum-up CMWAP and CMNET are two different APN in order to acces to CMCC GPRS.
CMWAP is used for WAP browsing, but it works also for web! I use it on my Alpine since many months. It seems that you're charged per minute.
CMNET is used for Skype, FTP and other stuff like that. Charged by volume.
I don't know the cost even if I use it now since more than one year :lol:
Parameters:
APN: cmwap
In "Proxy Settings", check "This network connects to the Internet"and also "This network uses a proxy server to connect to the Internet". Then fill the field name "Proxy server" with: 10.0.0.172
Then click on "Advanced..." button
In front of HTTP, the port should be 80
In front of WAP, the port should be 9201
In front of Secured WAP, the port should be 9203
In front of Socks, the port should be 1080
APN: cmnet
Click on "Advanced..." button and go to "Servers", then select "Use specific server address" and fill it as following:
DNS: 211.136.20.203
Alt DNS: 211.136.20.203
and don't care about the homepage, you can put what you want and not only Wap.monternet.com
MMS Settings:
Gateway: 10.0.0.172
Port number: 9201
Server address: http://mmsc.monternet.com
I can warrant you that all is working perfectly with these settings all over China since my arrival here (November 2004).
By the way, if you have any information about the billing on each APN, I'm interested in!
Hope it helps!
CMWAP is 20RMB for Month!!!!!!
but by using it I can't connect to MSN...can you?
CMNET...I will try now and I will let you knoe the costs
atomicskate said:
Some mistakes in the previous messages.
As a reminder, you can do WAP over GSM or over GPRS as well.
And you can do web surfing or other applications like Skype for instance or other protocols like FTP over GSM or GPRS as well also.
So, to sum-up CMWAP and CMNET are two different APN in order to acces to CMCC GPRS.
CMWAP is used for WAP browsing, but it works also for web! I use it on my Alpine since many months. It seems that you're charged per minute.
CMNET is used for Skype, FTP and other stuff like that. Charged by volume.
I don't know the cost even if I use it now since more than one year :lol:
Parameters:
APN: cmwap
In "Proxy Settings", check "This network connects to the Internet"and also "This network uses a proxy server to connect to the Internet". Then fill the field name "Proxy server" with: 10.0.0.172
Then click on "Advanced..." button
In front of HTTP, the port should be 80
In front of WAP, the port should be 9201
In front of Secured WAP, the port should be 9203
In front of Socks, the port should be 1080
APN: cmnet
Click on "Advanced..." button and go to "Servers", then select "Use specific server address" and fill it as following:
DNS: 211.136.20.203
Alt DNS: 211.136.20.203
and don't care about the homepage, you can put what you want and not only Wap.monternet.com
MMS Settings:
Gateway: 10.0.0.172
Port number: 9201
Server address: http://mmsc.monternet.com
I can warrant you that all is working perfectly with these settings all over China since my arrival here (November 2004).
By the way, if you have any information about the billing on each APN, I'm interested in!
Hope it helps!
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no way to connect to CM NET....I will call the Customer support and I will let you know
Really strange that you cannot connect to CMNET with these parameters...
And I'm not sure that CMCC Customer Support can do something for you as your terminal will be "Unknown" in their list... after they're definitely lost :?
Where are you living? At Shanghai the both APN works perfectly, and on all the other provinces I've visited CMWAP is working well (I never used CMNET outside Shanghai).
As I said on the previous post, it's normal that you can't use such kind of application like MSN with CMWAP APN!
About the cost of 20RMB for connecting CMWAP you surprise me coz I only have a prepaid GSM subscription... So it should mean that if I connect one time in a month I will be charge 20RMB and if I connect during many days I will be charge the same price...
I will try to have a look to CMCC wesite with my chinese teacher next time :wink:
Sure, in many Chinese cities, the CMCC began their service of 20 RMB per month for CNWAP since 2005.
but for me, I use CMNET and CMWAP both, GPRS is specially for my MSN and mail-box. but be careful, the price of GPRS is 0.03 RMB per KB!
but in Shanghai, I don't think the CMCC will give you the price of 20 RMB per month, for as everybody knows, Shanghai is an expensive city, and your Shanghaier are richamen...
Damn the CMCC!
You can surely get the CMWAP package for 20RMB in Shanghai. And CMNET got package as well, which is pretty exp..... :evil:
OK, you can get these kind of package for CMWAP as well as for CMWEB APN.
But it's not mandatory.
Since one year, I'm only using prepaid for these 2 APN.
I'm going to check if these packages are more interesting, but I doubt...
That really depends on ur usage. You can turn on the service of gprs with choice to be charged by kb or package, no matter prepaid or contract as long as u pay the money.
I did hear that someone surfs the internet by using proxy in wap, but i havent comfirmed that by myself. If it works, that really saves a lot. :lol:
I did hear that someone surfs the internet by using proxy in wap, but i havent comfirmed that by myself. If it works, that really saves a lot. Laughing
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Please see my first post on this thread. It's really easy to surf on the web using CMWAP APN. You just have to configure the Proxy server as I said.
Good luck :roll:
You might want to check the connection rules:
start->settings->connections->connections ?
in the settings/GPRS Setting, try to chek if the CHAP authentication is checked.
Marco
Italian living in China

T-Zones USA

I'm not sure if any of you have had this problem.
I've been using t-zones for my imate jam for more than a year to surf the web and IM my friends. A few weeks ago it stopped working and I finally got fed up and called them to see what the problem was. After being on the phone for more than an hour trouble shooting with them, they finally told me that they updated the system.
They said the t-zones connection no longer supported port 80 connections (internet connection). This explained a lot since I am able to connect to t-zones, but not get any content from my browser.
Has anyone had this same problem? Is there a way around it besides getting the $20 Internet Feature from t-mobile?
Try to put this into the HTTP proxy setting:
HTTP proxy: getmorespeed.voicestream.com port 8080
Hope this will work out for you.
And also, its not longer $20, now its $30, they bundle it with Hotspot. No more option to have just the GPRS.
This kinda defeats the whole point of having a PDA phone for me if I can't get cheap internet on it. For $30 I'd expect to get an EDGE connection, not some crappy 5kbs connection.
Oh well.
so, the proxy above doesn't work out for you?
I still have the t-zone for $6 month and my connection still works so far with the proxy above.
well I'll have to call tmobile and have them activate my tzones again (I hate paying for unusable services) I'll keep you posted with any updates. Are you able to use the wap.voicestream.com still or does that one no longer work for you?
You can do it on-line in the T-Mobile web site. Just re-check the T-MobileWeb option and tomorrow morning it will start working again.
If it does not work out, then you go back to the T-Mobile web site and uncheck the T-Mobile web again. And the changes will be effective the following day. Then you will pay 1/30 times $6 for that 1 day service.
I still use wap.voicestream.com with the proxy setting I mentioned above.
Generally I can browse the web, and I can sync to my company Exchange server.
for some reason the check box in grayed out and I'm not able to check the stupid box. I'll wait till tomorrow to see if there is any change.
Thank You... That worked for me...
ok so I've got t-zones back up and running and I've set the address to getmorespeed.voicestream.com but I'm not sure what the port 8080 is? I searched through all my settings and was not able to find anyhting that looked similar to this. does anyone have a screen capture of it to give me a better idea where to look?
I think you set it wrong.
The access point name (APN) in the GPRS setting is still wap.voicestream.com
After you set that up, then you go to the Proxy Setting, and add the HTTP proxy: getmorespeed.voicestream.com and when you click Advanced, you will see the default proxy port number is 80. Change it to 8080.
I think you set it wrong.
The access point name (APN) in the GPRS setting is still wap.voicestream.com
After you set that up, then you go to the Proxy Setting, and add the HTTP proxy: getmorespeed.voicestream.com and when you click Advanced, you will see the default proxy port number is 80. Change it to 8080.
Try to put this into the HTTP proxy setting:
HTTP proxy: getmorespeed.voicestream.com port 8080
Hope this will work out for you.
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I love you! Thank you so much!
lie_ui... You are a genius

Quick Question Help is appreciated!

So I have read plenty of times about people access the Tmobile data without having a data package. Currently I do not have a data package, I took it off my plan. I wanted to know if someone could help me out with the connection settings for a Tmobile wing. I keep finding instructions for free internet but its for the dash and i dont have a couple options they are asking for. I have a Wing with touch it 2.3. What do i need to do, delete the old settings and add new connections?? help would be awesome, anybody that is working with the wing or that rom that could help, or point me to a thread, i would appreciate it tremendously. Also, i'm in Orlando and i have seen posts of people here in orlando with the dash getting free internet.
Thanks guys!
I've always had the data plan, so I don't know. But here's a post I found in another forum
qwikndrty said:
I upgraded to WM6 and these are the settings that work for me just fine, now I got to figure out how to get Windows Live to work
T-Mobile GPRS
Connects to: WAP Network
Access Point: wap.voicestream.com
User name: ______
Password: ______
Primary DNS: 0.0.0.0 (I used 216.155.165.50)
Secondary DNS: 0.0.0.0
IP Address: ______
Start>Settings>Connections>Proxy
T-Mobile Proxy
Connects from: WAP Network
Connects to: The Internet
Proxy (nameort): 216.155.165.50:8080
Type: HTTP
User name: ______
Password: ______
Start>Messaging>MMS>Menu>Options>Account Options>MMS>Menu>MMSC Settings
T-Mobile MMS
MMSC URL: http://216.155.174.84/servlets/mms
WAP Gateway: 215.155.165.50
Port: 8080
Connect Via: WAP Network
Max Sending Size: 300k
WAP Version: WAP 2.0
Preferences
Retrieve Immediately
Save Sent Messages
Allow Delivery Report
Allow Read Report
No. of Attempts: 3
Photo Resolution: Original Resolution
In addition to above these need to be set:
Start/Connections/Menu/Advanced
All should be set to Automatic
PIE/Menu/Tools/Options/Connections/
Auto Detect should be Checked
Select Network: WAP Network
1. With these setting you can switch automatically from GPRS to WIFI seamlessly.
2. At the Windows Media Mobile site, Windows Media Player will play streaming video.
3. You can also connect to T-Mobile Web (http:/wap.myvoicestream.com
4. You can send MMS or pictures via POP email
These setting will allow virtually everything to work with the $4.99/5.99 T-Mobile Web Plan. Using alternate setting can work for somethings but not all.
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Thats just about correct. I actually just figured it out before you posted. Thank you anyway.
BTW any possibilities of making the homepage google?
Im answering my own question but thought others would find it usefull too.
To do this you have to edit the registry. HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Internet Explorer/AboutURLs. Then there is a value for "home" Change it to whatever. You have to put http://
The dataplan is only $20, lol.. I'm gonna laugh when these guys try and get "free" internet then all of sudden end up with a $400 data bill.
For years, I've been paying close to $40 a month for the data plan ... so when they took it down to $19, I'm not complaining.
I had the data plan when it was $9.99 or $11.99 @ month and all the sudden they canceled out the whole data plan and stuck me with t-zones. I got back on the data plan but was bummed they screwed me over. In case anyone doesn't know the t-mobile data package comes with "Hotspots" but you have to configure it on a separate web page. Good Luck getting CS to explain how to do it they will try and sell you another package along with the $19.99 fee. But "Hotspots" is part of the data package already.
Well, I had the data plan for a long while and realized that the amount that i use it, it truely isnt worth the money for the amount that i use it. I am on a flex pay account, prepaid, so i pay for my service a month in advance and I keep no money in my flex account, which is where they deduct charges that i pay for per service (data, minutes after i exceed my total, text messages etc) I dont know how they would charge me if that was the case
I use the data plan like crazy... various of my email accounts come to my phone directly and I use IM and all sorts of craziness on there ... so I would die without it. hah
is it free???
someone plz reply,
i dont have any data plan on my tmob wing,and i did setting in wap according to above and i am able to get internet,
i have question is it free??
i just started using it recently and i have not got any bill yet,do they charge for this???
help plz i am newbie did search but couldnt fine any post which say free...
plz
for someone using open touch 3.0 biggy can they help with the proper settings? i am unable to get this to work. when i have it setup i goto IE and load pages the error i always get is Error not authorized.....
worked flawlessly thx
vr24 said:
The dataplan is only $20, lol.. I'm gonna laugh when these guys try and get "free" internet then all of sudden end up with a $400 data bill.
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yup cuz while we have unlimited they're gonna be charged by their usage and its def not cheaper.

[Q] wap data?

I cannot get my wife's mt3g 1.2 to connect to our data plan with cellular one / centennial. I am using the same settings that work with either account with my windows mobile just fine and the android refuses to connect. I do not want to pay $10 extra a month for a "android internet access plan" that will take me from unlimited data to only 100 mb (yes that is megabytes) Customer service told me that my plan is wap not http and android phones cannot connect via wap - they must have http so therefore the extra charge. (This sounds like a bunch of "gotcha by the wallet" bullcrap to me!)
Any Ideas?
I'm open to upgrading rom/kernel ect to make this work.
EDIT:
Here are the settings that work fine on my incite (stock rom)
connection name:
myBluePix
apn:
mmspublicwap.centennialwireless.com
user name , password , domain:
(none)
proxy settings:
http: 63.99.231.135.8080
wap : same
secure wap: same
socks 63.99.231.135.1080
These settings work fine on my winmo (on facebook with it as I type this.)
48 hours 87 views and not one answer?
Not even someone asking for more info?
Heck I didn't even get a "Use the search button stupid noob!"

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