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is there a util for this ?

Hi,
Is there a App like Remote administrator for PC
for the XDA2 ?
something where i can see on my XDA2 LCD a Screen of my PC
desktop and interact with the PC from screen taps on the XDA2.
open folders, start programs, mebe even xfer files etc etc

yeah vncview.exe
works pretty much like normal vnc between 2 computers

One I use is Pocket Controller from SOTI, very good.

I use NetOp Remote Control. Super!!

why dont u just use the terminal services client that comes built in in your xdaII and remote desktops on your xp machine??
no need for 3rd party tools

ArcticCat said:
why dont u just use the terminal services client that comes built in in your xdaII and remote desktops on your xp machine??
no need for 3rd party tools
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Hi ArticCat, would you mind to make a step buy step explanation on that?
:?:
Thanks in advance.

This works only on Windows XP Professional, NOT on XP Home.
Works with a Wifi card and in the USB cradle, didn't test it yet with an USB BT dongle since mine is in back-order or with GPRS.
PC
- make sure you have administrative rights
- Right-click "My Computer" and choose Properties
- Choose the tab Remote
- activate Remote Desktop (Allow users to connect remotely to this computer)
- the logged on user automatically has access to the pc. If you want to add additional users, click on "Select Remote Users" and add them.
XDA
- goto Programs->Terminal Services Client.
- fill in the name or ip-address of your pc and hit "Connect"
Works fine, but I find the resolution of the XDA II to low to be practical.
Think this would work much better on a Toshiba e800 with 640x480 res.
Enjoy,
Jos

Thanks a lot for the fast response.
Looks like there is something missing, I get a "Cannot connect with current connection settings. To change your connection setings, tap setting" message.
There is not very much to configure undet the settings tab, so it's a bit frustrating.
Any ideas?
:wink:

I have no connection configured, just the XDA II in the cradle and it works.

Thanks a lot!
To my surprise it worked as you mention once I tried again. Couldn't figure out what was wrong the first time.

i used the SOTI and yes i can see the XDA screen on the PC.
But i was looking for the same util but the other way round.
i wanna see the DeskTop screen on the PDA

You need this prog: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/resources/downloads/pocketpc/remotedsp_eula.mspx
Allows you to show the display of the pda on the pc-screen and control it with mouse and keyboard.
And it's for free!

yes thats wot the UTIL dose i have now.
but im looking to..
display of the pc-screen on the PDA and control it

This is what you want....
http://www.soti.net/bot.asp?Cmd=Products
http://www.handango.com/PlatformPro...onId=0&catalog=30&txtSearch=pocket+controller

Arthur,
Let's get things clear.
You want to control the pc from the XDA?
Just use terminal services client on the XDA in combination with the remote desktop feature of Windows XP Pro, as described in the earlier postings.
Or use VNC, you can download the client for the pocket pc here:
http://www.cs.utah.edu/~midgley/wince/vnc.html
and the server for the pc here:
http://www.realvnc.com/download.html
Jos

hi jos yes you got it
one problem i have is when trying to connect via GPRS i get the msg NO MODEM AT THE OTHER END ?

Arthur, did you get this sorted in the end.
I was already running the server program on my main pc and downloaded the pocket pc vnc veiwer. Cant get it to work so far tho, is there any settings you have to change on the XDA?

is it possible to..

remote control ma ppc with ma pc via gprs??? how??!??

is there no way to control my pc from my ppc!??!!?
something like remote desktop(windows have..) ??

Most remote control software works using a regular network connection through active sync.
This should thus be possible with pretty much any nework connection, including gprs. Basically just dial gprs, get your phone's ip address, and use that for remote control. I think. In theory. But not fast.
V

Hang on. what are you asking? control you PPC from your PC or vice versa.
Either way, look into VNC.
V

no, i just want to control my pc From my ppc. can terminal services in programs do something for that??
another program?

JuNiOr_Gr said:
no, i just want to control my pc From my ppc. can terminal services in programs do something for that??
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I would have thought so.
You'll need XP pro for the remote desktop server to be built in though. XP home does not have it.
Failing that, VNC, look here: http://www.cs.utah.edu/~midgley/wince/vnc.html

You can do this easily via GPRS. Simply connect to the internet via GPRS, and then start up Terminal Services Client on the ppc, insert the ip address of your pc, and step through the authentication dialogue. Of course you will have to make sure that your pc (running WinXP) has World Wide Web Services installed, so as to enable Remote Desktop via the internet.
Hope this helps.

i tried via terminal services , add my ip(of the pc) open the port from router, from my coputer click the allow other people to connect to this pc(also there i added ppc's ip) but could connect. i got an error from ppc.
i am using win xp pro .
i there another application like terminal services ??

VNC?
V

vijay555 said:
VNC?
V
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couldnt download it
can u tell me which file? that one which sais PocketPC win2003?
i download that and a error came out

Did you enter your PCs IP address as seen on the PC, or did you enter the external internet IP? They are 2 different numbers, and regardless of whether you have ports open or not you wont be able to connect directly to the PCs network IP address.
If you're using an ADSL router then go to the configuration or settings page and find out what your internet IP is.

Re VNC
I've used this one quite well:
http://www.parystec.demon.co.uk/pt_vnc2.htm
But there are other free versions I imagine.
V

@JuNiOr_Gr
Which Port did you open for Terminal Services?
Did you then connect to you Internet IP from your PPC or to your local IP?
If you use VNC you have to open the VNC Port (default 5900).
Ist there a software firewall (e.g. XP Firewall) installed on your PC?

For terminal services to work you must have a password set on your XP account. Otherwise it should work with port 3389 forwarded. I use it fine from my Magician over GPRS.
Only thing is that it's a shame you don't seem to be able to turn off desktop background, themes etc that you can from the Desktop version of Terminal Services Client as this would improve speed.

Any decent Telnet clients available?

I get my 02 Mini S Variant Wizard next week, one thing I'm hoping do do is to log on to our Unix servers via Telnet over Wireless Lan. From a PC I use "PuTTY" which can cope with the specific screen emulations we use. Is there a suitable Telnet client for the Wizard?
Many thanks,
Mark.

putty is available for Pocket PC and seems to work ok..do a google for it.

lyallb said:
putty is available for Pocket PC and seems to work ok..do a google for it.
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Thanks for that! So does this mean that software listed as for the "Pocket PC" will typically work on a Wizard?
Mark.

I've heard good thing about pockeTTY. It does telnet/ssh. This was the winner in pocketpcmag's comparison. Going to give it a try later on.

Mark Falsebeard said:
one thing I'm hoping do do is to log on to our Unix servers via Telnet over Wireless Lan
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Are you really (still) using Telnet? I would change that to SSH as soon as you can! Telnet is not save at all.
By the way.... http://www.pocketputty.net/

Are you really (still) using Telnet? I would change that to SSH as soon as you can! Telnet is not save at all.
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I'm aware that Telnet isn't very secure, however I don't have any say in the connection method. Our firewalls are currently MacAddress specific and Fixed IP Address specific so I'm pretty confident that the server is secure.
I'm intending to connect via WEP encrypted wireless LAN (rather than via the internet) whilst at home and/or at work.
Another solution could be to connect via Terminal Services to the Windows SBS Server and use the PuTTY that's already on my account on there.
For the moment I haven't a clue what would be possible or the best way to procede as I've not got the phone yet. My enquiries are related to working out what it will be possible for me to do and what software would be needed to do it.
The XDA was ordered today, along with a 2gb MiniSD Card and I'm really looking forward to getting it.
Mark.

Use Terminal Services Client Over VPN

I would like to use the built-in terminal services client to connect to one of our servers using the GPRS/VPN connection I am able to establish.
The problem is as follows:
I can establish the GPRS/EDGE connection to the internet. I then connect to the VPN and it shows that both connections are connected and data is running over the connection. I can ping the servers IP address, but as soon as I try to connect through the TS Client, it disconnects the VPN.
Has anyone been able to get this to work?

Be sure that your terminal server name does not has dots in the name. WM5 thinks that any name with dots is from Internet, and any name without is the Intranet ("my work network"). So, if you try to connect, for example, to the server named trm.company.com, WM% decides it is on the Internet and drops МЗТ connection.
To fix it: go to "Settings" -> "Connections" -> "Advanced" tab -> "Exceptions..." button, and add the server name with dots to the "Work URL" list.
If it helps, please, let us know here.

Thanks.
I have tried you recommendations and now the VPN does not disconnect. I think their must be some security enabled on the terminal server as I still can't connect. I think it must be something to do with Citrix or the encryption level on the server. I will investigate further.

Can you explain me waht is Terminal Services Client? (Any screenshot?)
Can I use it with my Jamin and laptop with USB cable or WiFi?
Many thanks!

The terminal services client is an application which is included in the ROM of most PDA phones. It allows you to connect to a terminal server from you PDA much like you would normally do it from you workstation using Remote Desktop. Remote Desktop Client = Terminal Services Client
If you go to Start, Programs on your PDA you should see the application listed there.
You can either do one of the following to use the client.
1. Connect you Jamin to you PC using the USB. You will need to activate the Modem Link application. Dial the GPRS connection from the PC and then connect to the terminal server using Remote Desktop on you machine.
2. Open a GPRS connection on the PDA (Not Connected to the PC). Open the terminal services client on the PDA and connect to the terminal server.

Great!
The connection must be always GPRS? I'll pay for do this?
Have you some screenshot?

Markino said:
Great!
The connection must be always GPRS? I'll pay for do this?
Have you some screenshot?
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Relaxxx! If you don't know what is it - it means that you don't need it at all
To access aremote desktop you need any IP connectivity: GPRS, EDGE, WiFi, but the desktop you connect to is not a service It can be your home PC or your business server, but it is not a thing you can use as, for example, any web site.
You need to establish a server by yourself or got an account for your company IT guys. You will pay for IP traffic, of course...

irgavin said:
Thanks.
I have tried you recommendations and now the VPN does not disconnect. I think their must be some security enabled on the terminal server as I still can't connect. I think it must be something to do with Citrix or the encryption level on the server. I will investigate further.
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I've checked out the remote desktop with Win2000 server, but without VPN, on the Active Sync connection, it is OK. Ensure that your server uses RDP protocol (Microsoft), not Citrix propiertary protocol.

Skype and MSN on wifi?

Hi. I'm looking into buying the new Trinity (p3600i) in Australia here. My question is, can I hook the phone up to my wifi network, then use Skype and MSN on the wifi network, and not have to use the internet from the phone service provider? Those would cost too much to download even just my mails.

yes that is the purpos of wifi
much like people do with laptop and desktops with wifi

yep, also to download any pop3 mails via the wifi (e.g. Gmail)
You can even control your desktop computer's media using your phone... (I'm seriously so in love with that)

How about installing VNC or some way to control my desktop from the Trinity?

soupiejr said:
How about installing VNC or some way to control my desktop from the Trinity?
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Read what's been posted above.

yes one can remote ones pc using
1 ms therminal services
2 a vnc client on the pda
for more info google have both therminal services setup guides
and plenty of free vnc clients for windows mobile