Hi Guys: I have got the Widcomm Phone edition stack working on my unit.
It seems to be fine but I have not fully tested all aspects of the software - so if any little bits don't work, let me know...
You need to install the official widcomm 1-4-1-59 version
Then you can upgrade it using the cab file I have made.
The 1.4.1.59 version file I got from the following topic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=57550#57550
thanks go to mamaich for the file.
the upgrade file consistes of the PE edition files and the required registry entries.
Let me know how you all go on with it - but I am not really a hacker so any serious probs I will not be able to fix...
if anyone else can improve on the installation be my guest
any news about which profiles it support that ms or the old one dont support ?
I hope unintall won't mess up my volume as in case of original bluetoothgps.cab
I can't garauntee it works perfectly, so I suggest everyone make a backup of their system before use.
has anyone tested any BT headset with this new stack?
I've got it installed and it all seems to work well exept for the handsfree/headset profile, I have set up my headset ok it is discovered and bonds fine but when I try to connect from the xda2 the connection fails after "waiting for device" for some time. tried with a motorola hs 810 and a neovoice usb, same with both. Anyone got any ideas?
BT headset
I have a 6315 and an XDA 2, I haven't tried the BT Stack on the XDA 2 yet but I found when I bondeded my HBH-30 to my 6315 once it made the connection my BT Headset shut off for some reson. This caused the bonding to fail, but as soon as I turned my headset back on (while it was trying to discover services) it completed the process and worked on my 6315. I'm not sure if this will be the same, but it's worth a shot.
Brandon
Test results
Hi fellows
Here is little bit of my testing of this new BT Stack, which we all awaiting for..
Proc…
1. Installed as per instructions 1.59 without any problem. During installation was prom to override .dll files – agreed to do that. For good or for bad – will see later.
2. Installed .cab file provided by icarusbop (big thanks to him for doing this) without any problem. Screen shots will be attached below.
3. Reset it as requested upon installation and got Widcomm BT working instead of MS BT..
4. Paired it with my BlueTrek G2 within 3 seconds (which took usually 10 sec with MS BT)
5. BT recognized G2 as device with Headset/Hands-Free profiles and asked to use as default… I said yes…
Here comes Cons part ;(
1. Unfortunately even after paring – my I-Mate can not get connected with G2 (see screen shot)
2. As you can see in another screen shot – there is Hands Free menu – it can not be accessed, or can be accessed ONLY while connection is established.
3. AND the last L … So, this new BT is not working now… I decided to go back to MS BT… SURPISE!!! I am getting message that BT HARDWARE IS NOT INSTALL ON THIS UNIT…. L Assumption - .dll files were overwritten (see Proc 1)
Here is my 2 cents in this jorney… I am hoping that described problems can be fixed and we can make it working (without doing hard reset on my device )
Paul
thanks guys! for testing hands-free/headset profile. by now everything seems to work fine with this new stack except for hands-free/headset profile.
New comments to my testing
1. I tried what NeoCole recommended - didn't work for me
2. As soon as new BT is OFF - MS BT is working fine .....uf
LETS FIX THE HEADSET PART PLEASE
I posted this is another thread - but in case someone does not read that thread . . . it is relevant here as well.
If the intent of this is to get voice dialing without touching the device, that is by only pressing a button on the headset to initiate a voice-dial program to make the call, there is no evidence this works with this BT stack either.
I have been reading other forums with people who have the H6315 already (mine is in the mail to me now) and none of them have been able to make this work. Nor is there any mention of this capability in any of the literature and/or documentation for this device. It seems that if this was a feature of this phone, it would be prominently displayed!
Voice Command
Okay.. on my 6315 I press the headset button, it beeps, sound and voice is now transfered to the headset. I do this before I initate voice command. Now all I do is press a button that activates Voice Command on the PPC and walla, I'm speaking and listening through my BT Headset. This is a huge step forward from using the MS Stack, and I feel that since the Phone Edition of the Widcomm is 1.0.0 I'm sure that they'll associate a hardware button with the headset button in future releases. Anyhow.. I think that the functionality of the Widcomm BT Stack is well worth the work. The XDA 2 would be a lot better device if the BT Stack worked 100% of the time and was fully compatibile.
I also have not got it working.
the Hp 6315 is well know to still require a hardware button press (not on the headset) to activate voice command. They can still not do with any nokia or SE phone can do easily.
Surur
VoiceCommand
That would be correct... One press of the HW Button does it all on a Regular phone.
The 6315 has brought it closer to allow you to interact with programs using your BT Headset, but yes you must still activate the programs on your handset before you can use them with your headset.
So.. to sum it up...
1. You can't interact with Voice Command using MS BT Stack on an XDA 2
2. You can interact with Voice Command using Widcomm Stack on 6315, but you have to activate the headset first, then start VoiceCommand on the PPC by using the HW Button.
Hopefully through this thread we'll be able to give the XDA 2 the same functionality as the 6315.
And maybe if Widcomm provides an update to allow the headset to activate a HW button, we'll be to the one step solution.
I do not want my comments to be read as stating that this is not a worthwile endeavor. I simply meant to make sure that someone does not go to the trouble of installing this new stack (particularly those who might be considered novices) with the mistaken impression that by doing so they will have that "one step" voice dialing solution.
This is by all means a worthwile endeavor, but it is merely a step down the road . . . not the final destination.
Y'all are doing good work - keep on blazing that trail!
hm.. I would think that it is more of MS Voice Dial functionality than BT - to recognize signal sent from headset as request for voice dialing.
When MS released first version of Voice Dialing they did not expect new functionality to have BT headset with hands-free profile connected to the device.
paired with my Jabra 250 = ok
connected to my Jabra 250 = failed
No luck with Moto headset
Eveything else seem to be working. No problems with detecting and working with BT access point
rehman said:
I hope unintall won't mess up my volume as in case of original bluetoothgps.cab
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Hi Rehman,
i tried to install and uninstall, for the very first time i didn't have to get a Hard-Reset done. the volume didn't disappear. so i believe trying it wont be a harm, but yet i would recommend to get a full Backup first.
Trying to figure this out
Okay, I looked through the whole registry. I can't find anything out of the ordinary. Only thing I can think of is the sound driver. Does anyone know what DLL that is? I bet it's a different version.
If someone that knows more about which DLL does what. Let's get all the DLL's that could pertain to Sound and Phone and compair the 6315 DLL's with the ones on the XDA2.
Related
After playing around some days (and yes: i read through a lot of threats) i think that this problem (using a bluetooth headset to activate ms voicecommand for dialing and so on) is not only bugging me but a lot of others.
Thats why I want to start ANOTHER, more structured thread about this topic. If something is wrong, please correct me!
WANTED SOLUTION:
Most of you want to use voicecommand activated via a bluetooth device... in your car beside TomTom for example.
PREPARATION: Headset working
I assume that you already got your device working. For myself, I am testing with Supertooth II and a Nokia BH200 hands-free device.
PROBLEM 1: TRIGGERING
First off all, voicecommand needs to be "started" when you press a button on the headset. Usually, the application "windows/sddialer.exe" is launched when bluetooth gets a "voicecommand"-commando.
(Some headsets got their own button, some wants kinda double-click, others want their button hold for some seconds to do so...)
This problem can be solved by changing a key in the registry:
Code:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/OEM/VoiceCommand/
..Then change the path value to:
\Program Files\Voice Command\voicecmd.exe
(or whereever you installed your voicecommand exe-file!)
Okay. Now the right application is launched when tapping on your bluetooth headset. But here you may encounter the next problem: It works only once.
PROBLEM 2: IT WORKS ONLY ONCE
That problem seems to be caused by voicecommand, because the gateway is left open after useage. (I have no idea if this is correct - i am just citing the opinion of some threads)
There are some attempts to solve this:
Darryl Burlings "Voice Enable": http://www.burling.co.nz/downloads.aspx
Project VCABT http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=23558&highlight=vcabt
VCBTFixer0.01.
JETware Hands-free Extension for Windows Mobile phones
http://www.jetwaremobile.com/
I tried them all and for me (german T-Mobile Rom 2.21) only Jetware's Tool worked. A reason MAY be that some of the hacks (vcabt, VoiceEnable,VCBTFixer0.01.zip) only work with an english ROM where all paths are correct: /programs and not /programme)
PROBLEM 3: Correct Audiotransfer
Some users report that it seems like there is still Wizards microphone in use - and NOT the one of the bluetooth device. Others again claim that voicecommands "answer" isnt delivered back to the headset but speaken via Wizards speakers... Since I used Jetwares Tool i didnt had that problem.
PROBLEM 4: Recognition Quality
Lets say you got somehow the correct and everlasting triggering of voicecommand via bluetooth working... then you may find out that recognition ends up with very poor quality.
Here a question for the "pros" in here: Could it be possible that this problem is related to poor bitrates in the audiotransmission via bluetooth? Could we increase recognition quality by tweaking that bitrate? Or will that end up with another problems (bt-bandwidth, cpupower while coding/encoding)?
PROBLEM 5: Interfering with other applications
Thats a future question... When everything works well with voicecommand - then you maybe want to use it in your car to have your hands free. And what else do most of us have there too? TomTom (or another navigation tool)!
So how will that work together with your voicecommand/bluetooth environment? Will TomTom "speak" via your headset too? Will the bluetooth gps mouse keep on working without problems?
And last but not least: Will you still be able to use your phone as a "phone" then?
Please share your ideas about theese problems... and if anyone got everything up and running (Voicecommand & Bluetooth, TomTom / GPS) it would be *very* appreciated if you could post a well written Tutorial / Howto
Regards, Licht
Good luck - for what its worth it works fine with certain BT headsets like the Moto HS850. Just the reg key does it.
Only thing is you have to hit the button on the BT headset 2-3 times sometimes to get it to work but it works perfectly otherwise.
Would LOVE to have a fix that would let me use with all headsets.
How does the jetware stuff work? I heard it screws up some other things?
Cause of "works only once" problem discovered?
I've gone through 4 different headsets with my Wizard and I found at least one commonality to which ones suffered the "works only once" problem:
All of the ones that had this problem were BT 2.0 headsets. The ones that worked fine were all BT 1.x headsets.
I also verified that on my new TyTN (which natively support BT 2.0) the BT 2.0 headsets worked correctly (no "works only once").
Not that this is any consolation to anyone with a BT 2.0 headset and a Wizard, but might help those looking for a new headset.
Changed over to Tytn... works perfectly without any hacks
here's my FWIW answer:
After extensive reading here and at Hofo, I settled on a Plantronics 510. Installed Burlings app and it worked. I hold the button to turn on VC (it will also wake the device from standby if its sleeping, even if its locked) and say my command. It will reply through the headset speaker. After that all audio is oing through my BT headset. (If you have VC telling you who's calling and telling you your appointments thats pretty nice, but if the phone rings you might need some new underwear)
Another long push of the headset button return audio to teh MDA's speakers. If I need to use VC again, I start all over. It sounds more complicated thatn it is in reality.
Recognition is so-so. I don't really use it in my pickup (its hot so my windows are down most of the time), but its pretty good in my car. I have to repeat myself maybe 10% of the time, at most.
Not sure how well written that was, sorry. if anyone has any questions I'd be glad to answer them. I've been pretty pleased with the combo. Especially since I got the 510 for $40 from amazon.
Hi,
i can't use the BTAudioToogle Tool for my XDA trion.
Someone the same problem ?
or better:
Someone with a solution here ?
Same for me. I have enabled BTaudiotoggle, I can hear the headset (Motorola HS850) go live but the audio either from WM player or TCMP still comes from the speaker and not the headset.
Hope someone comes up with the answer soon.
Rob
Got the same problem. No sound from BT.
Had something similiar to this with my old unit, to fully enable it I would hit the headset button (which now starts up voice command, let it time out, and then play whatever music i wanted to. I would verify that now but i am at work, and don't think they would appreciate the music blaring if i am wrong on this one
When I hit the button on the headset, it starts the Voice Dialer, the audio cuts in for a second or two, then drops back to the device speaker.
It nearly works, hope someone can hack this soon, just whats needed for podcasts and the like. No good for music tho!
Rob
I would also be very interested in a solution to this problem as I used to use BTaudiotoggle to listen to Tomtom commands in the car (normally have the music too loud to hear the commands through the loudspeaker ).
Worked great with my XDA Mini S but doesn't work with my new MDA Vario II and I didn't really want to have to buy stereo headphones, just wanted to be able to use my standard mono bluetooth headset like before.
If there is no way of using this program, are there any other programs that will send all audio to a mono BT Headset?
yep would really like an updated version of BTaudio too so i can listen to some audio books via my mono headset
You should test the trial version of bluemusic from teksoftco.
www.teksoftco.com . It gives ou a full help file on how to use the software and you have 30 sec to test that it working. I know that it works on the devices having TI Omap processors so it should work for all of you guys.
Cheers,
Raul
Just tried it out. It does the same thing that the other sotware does, mainly enable the headset where you can hear a hiss out of it, but still kees playing out of the back speaker.
My experience is a rassah's. All the Bluemusic software appears to do on my Vario II is cause the bluetooth headset to hiss slightly (whilst sound is still blasted out of the phone's speaker).
Also FWIW the teksoftco site doesn't appear to work too well on the PIE browser - defaulting to a no frames version with just a login box as far as I can see.
Needless to say I have uninstalled the software again.
Rufus.
@RufusA and @rassah guys you should check if you don't have the same problem as ulischultz in this thread :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=61739
We already tested the software with him on his treo device and as you can see in the thread " after pressing the button on the headset, the sound was redirected". This is mentioned in the help section of the software. ( on the universal/exec for example this step is not needed)
@RufusA - thanks for visiting the ppc version of the webpage (which is still under construction) - even though the subject is irelevant in this topic. I will send you a PM when its finished and tell me your opinion then (even though you have to admit that not many companies have a ppc version of their website - not to mention the smaller ones like ours).
If the problem still persists there is an opened thread on the forum :
http://www.teksoftco.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=162
Please submit all the malfunctionality and we will fix them.
Cheers,
rain
I downloaded the trial too and had the same problem as before unfortunately.
I did get a little further in so much as, if I pressed the call button on my BT Headset as per the instructions, I could get the music/audio transferred to the headset for approx. 5 seconds but then it would revert back to the phones loudspeaker. I couldn't get the 30 seconds that the trial software advertises
Fingers crossed someone will be able to work out a fix for this soon.
Thanks Nicky for the input. As i see the problem of bt headset being disconnected after 5-10 sec is a general one (and unfortunatelly is a problem in the RUU). We are trying to find a workarround with ulischultz but wouldn't want to get to driver level as clearly it will be fixed by HTC in the next RUU release if they don't want this devices smashed to their heads.
I will keep you updated if we find a solution for the interrupt issue.
Regards,
Raul
Solution
I have identified a solution to this which is working nearly perfectly for me. However, if you do use this then using the BT headset to trigger the voice dial/voice command/voice commander will no longer work.
Acquire a copy of of the BTAudioToggle software inc. BTAudioOn.exe
Copy this to a location on the phone.
Using a registry editor amend the following entries from
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\VoiceCommand
Path = location of BTAudioOn.Exe
e.g. Path = \Program Files\BTAudio\BTAudioOn.Exe
VoiceCmdDuration = 86400 (DEC) = 24 hours
This says for how long (in seconds) the audio will be passed to the headset for before timing out.
This however, will timeout earlier if no audio is coming through. I am not sure what will happen if something like TomTom is running but not speaking for a while. I have not performed timings as yet.
To activate audio through headset, press the main control button of the headset as if answering call/activating voice command etc. To deactivate, just press the button again.
Voice control apps will still work, but must be triggered from the phone itself, but voice will be picked up by the BT headset.
There appear to be some small bugs with this, such as after a phone call, using headset or not, the audio will stop being passed after hangup.
Please let me know if this work for you!
Looks an interesting solution. I've installed BTAudioOn on my storage card, and changed the VoiceCommand Path entry.
However I couldn't find a VoiceCmdDuraion entry under
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\VoiceCommand
so I've added a new DWord of that name with the value 86400.
Yet this doesn't appear to have made a significant difference i.e. Pressing talk button on Jabra headset produces 10 secs of sound before "timing" out.
Have I made a mistake, or do I need to have something else installed to get this to work?
TIA - Rufus.
I was going to try and make the suggested changes to the registry but I don't know how and am not sure what program I need to do it.
Could someone please let me know what program I need to install to be able to change the registry?
Thanks
Vs1979:
IT REALLY WORKS!!!!!!!!!
I can't tell you how happy I am!!!!
I did it the way you described it. However I also did not have an entry "VoiceCmdDuration" I created the DWORD-entry and it works now!
Great!
Thanks very much for that great solution!
@RufusA
As i gave you the link to the other thread you're not the only user experiencing this. There are several others complaining about this RUU bug.
@Nicky
You need to install a ppc 2005 regeditor (for example Resco Explorer has one built in, or you can find one on buzzdev site).
RufusA said:
Looks an interesting solution. I've installed BTAudioOn on my storage card, and changed the VoiceCommand Path entry.
However I couldn't find a VoiceCmdDuraion entry under
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\VoiceCommand
so I've added a new DWord of that name with the value 86400.
Yet this doesn't appear to have made a significant difference i.e. Pressing talk button on Jabra headset produces 10 secs of sound before "timing" out.
Have I made a mistake, or do I need to have something else installed to get this to work?
TIA - Rufus.
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Hi,
Did you Soft reset your device?
I made the registry change only, have not installed BTAudioOn and all my Voice command Audio etc... now comes through the headset and does not time out after a few seconds. I did find though that decreasing this value to lets say 60, would actually time the audio feed out even if not in use so I have stuck in a huge figure, will still need to do more testing to see if drains the battery any quicker and see if I can find another stirng which will do more for me.
Hi,
it work not for me
i have changed the path to \xx\BTAudioOn.EXE
i have add the VoiceDuration = 86400 (DWord DEC)
but it is the same problem, after 2 seconds the sound goes back to PPC.
I just got the Microsoft Voice Command 1.6 (refer to as VC from here on) this morning and so far it has been quite disappointing.
I am using it on a Cingular 8525 with a Sony Ericsson HBH-GV435 headset (both are BT 2.0).
Right after the installation I noticed that the talk button on the headset did not trigger the VC so I did a power cycling.
After the power cycling the button will now trigger the VC as if I pushed the VC button on the phone but the problem is that it is not picking up my voice command via the headset but it is still listening from the phone's mic.
Any thoughts on this?
hjkl;' why no delete?
skygear said:
did you try to go under your d\settingd to chsnge the buttons? i think you have to reg edit the files for ear pice mic
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I didn't know that.....I'm going to try and search for it. Can you maybe post a linky for the info on how to do that?
thx!
Version 1.6 at present time DOES NOT WORK properly with the TyTN. You should go back to V1.5 and wait for a patch...
goestoeleven said:
Version 1.6 at present time DOES NOT WORK properly with the TyTN. You should go back to V1.5 and wait for a patch...
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I see. Thanks for the info. Hope the patch will be available soon!
What is the probelm with the ver 1.6 and the TyTn? Is it just the TyTN rom or does it not function with the JasJam or the 8525 either?
Dp you guys know this by experience or is it posted somewhere?
PocketPCThoughts list the 8525 as a "compatible device".
The problem will affect all Hermes devices, and it will probably require a patch / a new dll and/or a registry hack to make things work properly. It should work, but it doesn't, and this goes to show you what a poor job of testing was done before product release.
If the single biggest additional feature/function (ie, bluetooth support) doesn't work properly, why was it shipped?
goestoeleven said:
The problem will affect all Hermes devices, and it will probably require a patch / a new dll and/or a registry hack to make things work properly. It should work, but it doesn't, and this goes to show you what a poor job of testing was done before product release.
If the single biggest additional feature/function (ie, bluetooth support) doesn't work properly, why was it shipped?
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Come on folks... This is MS we are talking about...
If it had been a software package with a little penguin or a devil on it we would be just fine
mrderby said:
Come on folks... This is MS we are talking about...
If it had been a software package with a little penguin or a devil on it we would be just fine
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Or maybe we should start to look at HTC... Their implementation of the whole bluetooth "feature" is crap too... AD2P anybody? well let's hack the crap out of the register, and than try to be happy with songs that hickup every 30 secs or so... neah great!
First: Hermes generally does not work with BT2.0, I guess, especially my MDAvario2 does not...
I'm using a BT Headset HBH608, which was perfectly working with every phone I've ever tried...
Second: VC1.6 could not be installed on Vario2' and Hermes Devices at all, getting an error message...
VC1.5 (engl.) works, not perfect, but it usually works...
MickKnatterton said:
First: Hermes generally does not work with BT2.0, I guess, especially my MDAvario2 does not...
I'm using a BT Headset HBH608, which was perfectly working with every phone I've ever tried...
Second: VC1.6 could not be installed on Vario2' and Hermes Devices at all, getting an error message...
VC1.5 (engl.) works, not perfect, but it usually works...
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What do you mean it cant be installed. I have it installed on a TyTn and it works perfectly. I am not using a BT headset, so cant comment on that.
I've got v1.6 on an 8525 and it seems to working fine.
what exactly are the problems others are having with Hermes devices?
@DigitalFX: Hermes does support Bluetooth 2.0, but not Enhanced Data Rate.
@JCrompton: MSVC 1.6 does not route sounds/commands properly through a Bluetooth headset on the Hermes. You may be able to initiate a call with your headset button, but you'll be using the mic/speaker on the Hermes to complete it. Also, sounds/announcements are not working as advertised. HTC and M$ are working on a patch.
VC 1.6 works fine on my MDA with Motorola BT headset.
Mark (NL) said:
Or maybe we should start to look at HTC... Their implementation of the whole bluetooth "feature" is crap too... AD2P anybody? well let's hack the crap out of the register, and than try to be happy with songs that hickup every 30 secs or so... neah great!
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Seriously, why dind't any OEM use the Widcomm stack instead of the crappy MS one ?!
If only there was a way to hack the Widcomm stack and replace the MS one like they did with the Dell axims..
Adi
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@DigitalFX: Hermes does support Bluetooth 2.0, but not Enhanced Data Rate.
@JCrompton: MSVC 1.6 does not route sounds/commands properly through a Bluetooth headset on the Hermes. You may be able to initiate a call with your headset button, but you'll be using the mic/speaker on the Hermes to complete it. Also, sounds/announcements are not working as advertised. HTC and M$ are working on a patch.
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Has anyone tried this... (look for the cab)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=283412&page=5
My 8525 works fine with 1.6 and my SE662 BT headset. Calls can be activated over BT using headset button, and audio routes to my headset throughout my call.
URPREY said:
My 8525 works fine with 1.6 and my SE662 BT headset. Calls can be activated over BT using headset button, and audio routes to my headset throughout my call.
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Wow! Have you done any registry hacks? I'd love to see what your Voice Command keys look like....
TIA,
Richard
I have an 8525 also, and 1.6 works as MS says it does.
The headset button activates voice command, the Beep occurs on the 8525, and the mike on the 8525 listens for input. If I say, Dial ... or Call... then the call works fine on the BT headset like expected.
I know a patch is in the works to fix this issue, and when they do, 1.6 is superior to 1.5 for voice interpretation.
However, for now, I have 1.5 working perfectly fine. All features work, and all I had to do was enter/change 2 registry keys (only 1 was necessary)
xcsdm said:
I have an 8525 also, and 1.6 works as MS says it does.
The headset button activates voice command, the Beep occurs on the 8525, and the mike on the 8525 listens for input. If I say, Dial ... or Call... then the call works fine on the BT headset like expected.
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So how loud do you have to shout for the mike on the 8525 to hear you if the phone is in the next room, or in your purse or you're driving? It might be the way MS intended it to work, but I doubt it.
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I can't believe that MS wouldn't have caught this problem during beta testing. Speaks volumes (pun intended) for the current state of software development and testing at MS. Anyone know if MS Reader works with WM5 yet? How about full multi-user support for ActiveSync? Win XP has been around for years now with this funtionality. And while I am on my rant, how about SP3 for Win XP? Currently we would have to download and install over 70 (!) critical patches to SP2 just to get our computers to the dynamic state they are at today. Come on MS, enough is enough. Get your s#!* together!!
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John
Hi!
In the last some days i read a lot and found the following :
1. download the widcomm stack from axim site : LINK
2. install it + do a soft reset
3. get a registry edittor (Resco, CECMD etc.)
4. change these values :
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\WIDCOMM\BtConfig\SerialTransport]
BaudRate=115200 (Won't start at higher rate.)
Device=COM
FlowControl=0
Parity=0
Port=1 (This is the most important thing!)
-soft reset
-at the today screen you will find a BT icon, click on it and have fun
TESTED FEATURES
-BT FTP, tested with : SE K750i, hx4700.
-ActiveSync : NOT WORKING
KNOWN ISSUES
-unable to control from comm manager
-blue led not flashing, easy to forget
-a2dp not tested
-tested on aku3.2 and aku2.3 roms, others maybe ok.
-other devices can't download bt services list, but the services works well.
-maybe unable to remove, not tested yet
-turns off, when you trun off your device, that maybe a problem with BT headset.
DO IT ON YOUR OWN RISK
Great news! Posted an announcement to the SP & Pocket PC Mag Expert Blog too!
Problems!!!
I've just installed the bluetoth stack in my phone. I've not yet tested it but i've found two showstop problems:
- activesync doesn't work anymore
- i cannot start the comm manager anymore (when i press the comm manager button in the upper left corner i can see only a small dialog with wifi and bluetooth power levels)
This is what i've done (maybe i did something wrong):
- copied the cab to storage and ran it (installed in device)
- soft-reset (required by the installer)
- edited the registry according to the first post
- soft-reset
I'm using an aku3.2 rom
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Comm manager is working again. I had to reassociate it in Start-Settings-Buttons
Still no activesync (over USB at least)
bye
bye
Has anyone else tried this then? Has anyone tried the hermes cab install found in here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1072292#post1072292
There has been reports that it works on the trinity as well, so it may work on the Wizard.
Edit: No it doesn't. I have just ried it and it gives the memory error.
took the plunge and tried it
Bluetooth works and I can connect my itech S35 to it. The A2DP profile is detected and can connect... problem is, the signal is too weak to maintain a connection, in other words, I just heard 2 seconds of music and that's it... Another problem is my speakers now don't work... must do more reading...
It's hopeful though...
I am using a Dopdo838...
new2city said:
Bluetooth works and I can connect my itech S35 to it. The A2DP profile is detected and can connect... problem is, the signal is too weak to maintain a connection, in other words, I just heard 2 seconds of music and that's it... Another problem is my speakers now don't work... must do more reading...
It's hopeful though...
I am using a Dopdo838...
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Did you try tweaking the BT params (for example, lowering the bit speed) to see whether it would work at lower bit speeds? See my related articles.
got look out for the links to your tips and tricks again
Hi Menneisyys,
Surrendered on Widcomm stack almost 2 months ago, now have to look again for the links for your tips and tricks for the Widcomm stack again...
Any idea on how to restore audio to my speakers... still dead at the moment... sigh... don't want to restore my back up yet...
i found that you don't really need to remove the shift* keys. if you already removed it, download the BTSpeedSwitcher from the download link, and set the speed to 921600bps. that may help.
Got it working fine
Thanks, but now I am a bit unclear, but will clear things up later. I used the speedswitcher as you suggested and but I had to disable audiogateway before it could work... now I am stuck as I put my wizard into standby and now it won't come back.... on... doh!
Well, one thing I can confirm, you can put it into standby and the bluetooth is still on.......
will feed back more when I get a clearer picture of what happened.... The sound quality is great..... just skipped for a second but is not back to normal again...
My wizard has now a nice quality A2DP sound without the high pitch noise...
went to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1073003&posted=1#post1073003
and used the files from Superdave... all is well now... look at my reply at the hermes thread.. Now I will just back up this "working configuration" and retry these settings on the cab from Aximsite... All the same, thanks to the legendary Mikelspikel
Just wanted A2DP to work so bad.... and it does now. nicely..
new2city said:
Got it working
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Okay, when you get time can you stick up how you got it all working? Many Thanks!
Ive installed the Superdave BBS_HERMES_03.CAB file and then modified the registry to use the above settings but every time i do the soft reset, the registry settings go back to the original values. Im stuck here.
Oh and i am using the last T-Mobile UK rom. (2.0 i think)
Edit 2: Now got it working. I had to kill voicecmd and cprog for it to load without giving the memory issue!
new2city said:
you can put it into standby and the bluetooth is still on.......
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as it should - BT is on on PPC PE devices in standby mode, unlike on plain PPC's.
peetking said:
-unable to control from comm manager
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It looks like comm manager is just an HTML document in the /windows directory. (Should be simple to redirect the button)
Leaskovski
sorry for the late reply but had a few setbacks during the night(I am in Malaysia)..
Got A2DP running all night and by mid morning... suddenly all went to hell..
1) No skipping with your suggestion of using MikelSpikel's speed switcher.
2) While trying to put it to standby to test if BT still works and it hung at first attempt. Something must have happened here as I recovered using the reset button and then suddenly I could get it to revert back to built in speakers and headset without issue. I thought, cool, it is like complete solution...
And then, I decided to backup this "complete solution" with SPB backup.. and after the softreset, I lost the ability to switch between headset and speakers. Then during the night while I sleep and use the headset, at around 3 am... the skipping came back...
and then... I restored the backup and now... got to tackle the skipping again.. never mind the muted speakers..
What linespeed(I use 320 dec), Blocks(16) and subband(8) do you use? I followed MikelSpikel's settings which work ok... last night...
back to the drawing board..
Right, i installed the superdave 03 version and then opened up the registry to make sure the settings matched the ones above. I had to kill cprog and voicecmd to start it without the memory error.
I have tested it now and although it is loading up ok, my headset connection is just not working properly. Its paired ok but nothing is getting routed through. However, my gps bluetooth device paired okay and is working fine with iGO 2006 after doing a detection. Damn shame about this headset! I am using a parrott ck3000.
redo..
Re-installed everything again and now I got a working version, some things to note though on my wizard..
1) I must overclock to 260mhz(battery status method) before I get skip free music.
2) Leaskovski, I had the same problem too in the beginning, where there is no audio getting through. Did you go to Bluetooth Manager and check the status of your headset? i went to mine(ItechS35) and I can see that the Wizard is sending data through successfully but there is no sound coming out of the headset. I solved this(that time, I don't know why it worked but it did) by going to Bluetooth services and removing the Check box for audio gateway enabled, and then music started coming through. I know, does not sound logical but it worked... that time..
Now hoping to find a way to redirect audio back to speakers when bluetooth is not used..
not tonight though.. its 10.46 pm now where I am...
This doesn't look promising for how i though the BT audio might work with this stack. I was hoping for something like the following...
"A good example of this is MS Voise command running on the MS BT stack. The two devices are paired and connected, however there is currently no streaming. You then receive the text message and MS Voice command reads the message back to you. Just before the message is read, the connection between the devices is made live, and thus the message gets read over the BT headset."
I was hoping that this was going to work for all applications like media player and iGO. I can reproduce what it is doing at the moment using the BTAudio programme that is available on these boards. I just wanted to get around this 'constant' streaming of silent noise.
Damn shame.
Okay for anyone wanting to play with this, here is how i installed and got it running...
1) Download from this thread post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1072773&postcount=72 the file BBS_HERMES_03.zip.
2) Install onto your wizard and soft reset when asked. Upon the reset, the device will moan at you about not having enought memory to load the drivers. Click ok to close this.
3) Load up your registry editor (i use FDCSoft Task Manager) and make the following mods as stated in the first post...
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\WIDCOMM\BtConfig\SerialTransport]
BaudRate=115200 (Won't start at higher rate.)
Port=1 (This is the most important thing!)
If you only want audio routed to headset when there is audio to route then make this reg edit...
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\WIDCOMM\Plugins\handsfree]
Audiohandling=21
4) Do not do a soft reset yet.
5) Now fire up your Task Manager (i use FDCSoft Task Manager) and kill any memory hungry tasks. The ones i kill which then allow me to start the stack is voicecmd.exe and cprog.exe.
6) Now click on the BT icon in the system tray and turn BT on.
Obviously there must be some memory leaks some where in the wizard because a couple of people have said that later in the day, if you try to turn BT on again it wont start due to memory requirements. Anyway, the best thing i can think of is to leave BT on after you have turned it on.
Currently, the blue led will not flash when BT is one. Try not to use the Normal Comms Manager to turn BT one as well as i think this trys to turn the MS stack on which won't work (probably due to memory requirements! )
new2city said:
I solved this(that time, I don't know why it worked but it did) by going to Bluetooth services and removing the Check box for audio gateway enabled, and then music started coming through. I know, does not sound logical but it worked... that time..
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I didnt get this to work in the end by the way.
I tried your idea to leave BT all the while but some problems pop up..
1) If turn off the headset without disconnecting it(BT still left on and the phone goes on standby, sometimes it won't come back.. a poke at the reset button is the only way..
2) I left BT on and disconnected the headset properly. Great BT is still on... BUT after a few hours, I can still connect the headset, but audio is not going there anymore... ??? but goes into internal speakers?
new2city said:
I tried your idea to leave BT all the while but some problems pop up..
1) If turn off the headset without disconnecting it(BT still left on and the phone goes on standby, sometimes it won't come back.. a poke at the reset button is the only way..
2) I left BT on and disconnected the headset properly. Great BT is still on... BUT after a few hours, I can still connect the headset, but audio is not going there anymore... ??? but goes into internal speakers?
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Hmm, i dont have those issues. I am using it with my carkit, so when i turn the engine off and remove the keys, the kit turns off. I haven't had to reset the device apart from when i have turned BT off and then tried to turn it back on again at a later stage (then giving me the memory issue).
If you have a bluetooth headset, then BtMusic will redirect all your audio to the wireless headset.
It will even resume the redirection after a phone call. So if you get a call while listening to an audio book, your phone won't start talking (with that scary computer voice) and won't not frighten people around, when you finish the call
all files that you need
i haven't tested this with a phone call cuz i'm nowhere near a phone to see if this app does what it supposed to with phone calls per say. the music does transfer.
Hi,
there is a new version of this software available at: http://www.maxmobilesoft.com/index.php/software/btmusic
It didn't work after install
Thank you for your BT.Music. But It didn't work after install.
maximb said:
Hi,
there is a new version of this software available at: http://www.maxmobilesoft.com/index.php/software/btmusic
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Unfortunately can not register - or better say registering has no effect - you can not download the latest version...
would love to test this though
just uploaded btmusic 1.0 beta
henftling said:
Unfortunately can not register - or better say registering has no effect - you can not download the latest version...
would love to test this though
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which user name did you use when regististering?
not working on the Diamond with bepe's ROM 0.54.
There is an error message about the .net CF (install these versions....) - but I guess bepe included a .net CF
The feature i'd incredibly love to have, is a 'auto on' feature :
I try to explain.
To use a gps software in a car with bluetooth equipment, today, I have to
- activate bluetooth sound permanently using btmusic, includinc when the gps soft ware as nothing to say.
or
- putting the music of my radio very low to try to hear guidance instructions.
What would be fantastic is :
When my phone is paired with a bt handfree device :
When there 's no sound from the phone then music is playing on my radio.
When there's a guidance instruction (like when there's a phone call), by bluetooth car kit cut the music and play the instruction over the sound system...
do you think it would be hard to develop?
Thanks in advance!
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which user name did you use when regististering?
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I registered with "henftling".
My xda is broken now. As soon as I got it back I will give vfeedback. - Thanks for uploading 1.0
pehun said:
The feature i'd incredibly love to have, is a 'auto on' feature :
I try to explain.
To use a gps software in a car with bluetooth equipment, today, I have to
- activate bluetooth sound permanently using btmusic, includinc when the gps soft ware as nothing to say.
or
- putting the music of my radio very low to try to hear guidance instructions.
What would be fantastic is :
When my phone is paired with a bt handfree device :
When there 's no sound from the phone then music is playing on my radio.
When there's a guidance instruction (like when there's a phone call), by bluetooth car kit cut the music and play the instruction over the sound system...
do you think it would be hard to develop?
Thanks in advance!
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Did you find what you were hoping for?
nope, i'm looking for that since 3 years...
the badest think is that's fonctionnality is integrated in symbian, and in some bluetooth stacks in windows mobile...
Hi, in which bluetooth stacks is it possible?
I have a touch diamond and I'm trying to find out an app that does what you've described...
I don't know it's name, but in the stack included in the wm6's roms for the fujitsu siemens T830 on this forum...
I never seen this stack elsewere...
In this stack there's an option "put audio throught bluetooth" wich do exactly what I want.
pehun said:
I don't know it's name, but in the stack included in the wm6's roms for the fujitsu siemens T830 on this forum...
I never seen this stack elsewere...
In this stack there's an option "put audio throught bluetooth" wich do exactly what I want.
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Asus and LG can do it because they are using Broadcomm/Widcomm stack
BT with Igo8 on Diamond
Im using the BtMusic to redirect the instructions from IGO to my BT headset , eventhough its written here and in the developer site that the BtMusic resume the redirection after a phone call, every time i hang up a a call during navigating, the sound return to be heard from my diamond speaker...
any ideas???
Unfortunatly BtMusic 1.0 beta is not redirecting the sound to the bluetooth headset on my Samsung Omnia!
Can anyone help here?
Ehi man...
I've just tried the 1.0 BETA version and it says to me that it is expired on 1st september!
Any solution?
EDIT:
Just downloaded the 1.0 Beta verion from the official website....
It works like a charm on my TOUCH!!
Works great ...1 request?
hello
thanks for the great application
works well on my Eten Glofish M700 with WM 6.1 rom by TB_TB
the best feature in my openion is that it resumes BT redirection after hanging a call
i used acb ToggleBT that do the same job ... but after installing MS voice command 1.6 it makes the sound come off the phone after a call
my only request is that i had acb ToggleBT mapped to a hard button, when i press once i get voice out of BT & if i press again it goes back to phone
maybe something like the following when mapped to hardware button can happen with next version:
if i click the mapped button, BTMusic screen shows up, BT gets enabled automatically (as if i had clicked left softkey), then the BTMusic screen closes by itself....if i click hardware button again, BTMusic opens then it gets disables automatically then screen closes by itself...
but what happens now is that when i mapped BTMusic, i click & i get the application screen ...then i have to click on "enable"...or "disble" to divert the sound
it would be super nice if you can add toggle function, maybe a link inside the program folder to toggle BT on/off?
Thanks again...GREAT job
expiry date
the latest btmusic cab works fine...
still can not link it to hardware button for toggle action (hardware brings up software screen to furthur choices but does not activate/deactivate BT by 1 touch yet)
also has a popup that says expired 10/15/2008, although the application keeps working fine its just annoying popup...i contacted developers & he wants $10 to release a code that makes it go away...i think its little pricy for a small cab...i wish it gets released as freeware
Thanks for a great application