O2 UK SSH access (port 22) over GPRS?! - Networking

Hi everyone,
I was going to buy the XDA II, but ended up with the Siemens M65 (sorry!)... I was too worried I'd break the XDA as I use my phone quite heavily under rough conditions.
Anyway, I figured this would be a good place to ask... is it possible to connect to port 22 (SSH) over the O2 UK GPRS network? Do they support TCP/IP networking? I have two Java SSH clients for my M65 (mobiSh and FloydSSH) and they just return an error saying 'no route to host'.
I've got my GPRS setup as I can access HTML web pages and download emails from POP accounts, but I have a feeling port 22 is blocked..?
Many thanks!
Matt

Maybe your JAVA VM can't connect to Internet? Try PocketPuTTY! This is working for me in Hungary/Vodafone. It is a simple applicatio.n, doesn't need Java.
My question; there is any SIP that can send function keys? For example, I like to quit from MidnightCommander, but the internal keyboard doesn't have an F10 key.

Maybe your JAVA VM can't connect to Internet? Try PocketPuTTY! This is working for me in Hungary/Vodafone. It is a simple applicatio.n, doesn't need Java.
My question; there is any SIP that can send function keys? For example, I like to quit from MidnightCommander, but the internal keyboard doesn't have an F10 key.

It *has* to be Java for it to work on my Siemens phone.
I was just hoping there would be some O2 GPRS users here Anyway, I solved it... I changed the port on my SSH server to a more O2-friendly port (it seems they didn't like me using port 22). It works fine now.
Thanks!
Matt

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O2 Exec SSH Client

Hi,
I'm a webmaster and just bought my O2 Exec today and am so far very happy with my new toy! My main reason for buying this is so that in emergency situations wherever I am I can fix my servers which receive 10,000's of viewers per hour.
Can anyone recommend a good SSH client for my O2 Exec similar to putty on the PC?
Thanks,
Paul
O2 XDA EXEC SSH Client
Go for Pocket Putty http://www.duxy.net/~aleq/PocketPuTTY/PocketPuTTY_v0.1-preapha-0.53b.zip
is that one workin on wm5?
Tried that last night, programme loads but there is no ok button to connect to server. Also there was no way to specify a custom ssh port.
Any ideas what to do?
PocketPutty is working on WM5 however custom ssh port is not supported, also there is a lot of problems with emulation. So far I was unable to find working ssh client for PDA.
I use PocketPutty on my MDA Pro (HTC Universal) and I have no problems with it.
when the question comes where you need to tap on ok, just press enter on the builtin keyboard.
I would like to change the font used by PPutty, as the vga screen can show much more information thus making directory listings etc. much better readable.
Can you use custom ssh ports? All my servers use custom ports for security reasons.
No, I use standard ssh Port. too bad that the source code is not open source or I would change it myself
Tried on my Dpod 900 but failed to login. :evil: :evil:
vijay port a new wm5 version thanks =?)
Hopefully sometime soon putty will be converted to wm5 with custom ssh port support.
Hi Supafly
I do similar stuff to you and there are lots of products out there that just do not work. I need ping, ftp, tracrt, telnet, SNMP, Packet sniffer . But instead of supporting web servers I support Telecoms VOIP network with 24/7 cover.
The best for these that support ozVGA are the Cambridge products. Even though I gather they were built 6 years ago they just work without any problems at all on the universal. Some have been ported to PPC 2003. The telnet client is good in ozVGA as you get a full screen that can show the entire screen from most telnet apps.
Here is the link http://www.cam.com/windowsce.html
I did try pocket putty first but did not have much sucess with it. If any one has a better suite of products that work well I am all ears.
Cahrlie
http://www.dejavusoftware.com/pocketty/ works well for me, it can run in VGA with any of the VGA hacks, and lets you choose any font you have as well as screen width/height. It also does all the encryption stuff properly, that a lot of clients dont bother with. Port tunneling etc too.
The screen sometimes goes half size, but you can fix that by opening and closing the onscreen keyboard.
Courier new with font size 6 gets you the full terminal window on your screen, and its readable nicely in VGA mode.
supafly said:
Can you use custom ssh ports? All my servers use custom ports for security reasons.
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That pocketty program supports custom ports as well.

vpn client?

hey guys,
am trying to connect to my office's VPN with my vario II. the default software provided does not seem sufficient. for one, i have one of those security key ring things which means my password changes every time i want to connect.
my pc uses cisco's vpn client...
any ideas? right now i'm just synching my exchange server with my pda using activesync, but wouldnt' midn having it on the go! there's no "external" access as such for the exchange server - it does have a web front end but its highly customized and isn't as easy as just configuring it as an external data source on my pda...
This one works perfect for me..
http://www.ncp.de/english/download/testsoftware/index.html
We use AnthaVPN at my university and it's supposed to work quite well with Cisco concentrator gateways, but be warned, if you have the latest 3.3 aku, you might run into problems like I did regarding loosing 3g internet connectivity on your hermes. However it could have just been a fluke as I didn't bother trying a fresh install of antha after a hard reset or anything since 3g is just as fast as my universities wireless internet anyways
Hope this helps
You can also try Bluefire. They have a 30 day fully functional trial version.
Find out more Here
Applestar said:
http://www.ncp.de/english/download/testsoftware/index.html
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I have installed this but can't see any way of configuring the VPN connection. How did you configure it?
You have to use the PC client in order to create a configuration file and then transfer the file to your device
duh!
thanks!
bluefire is amazing. i bought it.
I came close to getting bluefire to work on our Cisco network... But once connected it would not transfer data.
I read on a seperate post here that alledgely the medianet unlimited plan uses the wap.cingular access point. That point is NAT based and some vpn clients do not like that... So they refuse the connection based on changing ip addresses.
I am not a networking expert so I do not know if this is in fact the case.
I do know I tried every freakin setting for bluefile and could not get a vpn tunnel from my phone to our Cisco vpn... So I gave up!
NCP
Could I get more specific infos about bluefire? They wanted a 5 page survey before they would send me a (business) trial.
Well, NCP Secure Entry VPN Client works perfect for me with Lancom and other standard firewalls. And yes, configuration is made with a Win XP Desktop Application. Nice about this: They got a Desktop VPN client as well which will be configured exactly the same way. So if you got a working setting for your Laptop you can manually copy the settings and they will work on the PPC as well - thats what I did.

SSH PocketPutty on Athena

I ordered my HTC Advantage 7501, from Amazon earlier this week, and I completely excited. I was wondering if anyone has tried PocketPutty or something similar? First, I would like to know if it works well on Athena, and second is there a way to send F-keys (F1, F2.,. F12)? I need ssh and telnet to connect to my company's POS/Inventory system it would be great to leave my laptop at home.
Hi
I used putty for pocketpc, it does work (I used it over Wifi) but it's painfully slow...
I don't know if I can send function keys (F1 to F12), I didn't need them.
Regards,
Silviu
im using pocketty its pretty good
http://www.dejavusoftware.com/pocketty/
Hi,
I take back what I just posted: it was just the login that was slow using pocket putty, and it was because of a failed reverse DNS lookup from the server... Otherwise it works perfectly.
Regards,
Silviu

i've looked everywhere, seriously. -remote desktop

any detailed how to guide?, i can do it, i'm fairly tech savvy, so i just need to kneed out a few things. maybe if you caould start from the beginning and i can see where i went wrong.
logmein.com works, but i want something more personal, just bewtween the computer and my phone. somerthing that looks good and scales full screen preferably.
please guys?, point me in the right direction.. all the posts just keep saying to search and there's lots of info, but there's no step by step guide.
thanks guys!
ok i got it going.
first go to the computer you want to connect to and go to control panel / system
click on remote, enable remote users
go to start menu, run. type cmd
in command write "ipconfig /all"
take note of your ip address
on your phone go to remote desktop,
computer = your ip address
username = (go to startmenu, control panel, user accounts) use one of those names.
password = blank unless you have a password.
domain = i left blank.
connect full color unless it doesnt work for you
if you can connect and you get a password error
type the error you get inot google and you should get a fix as your first link.
try that.
blam, remote desktop, it's awesome.
Nice how-to...
this is the most succinct tutorial on how to do this that I've seen. I'm still having trouble, though. I get the "Cannot connect. Likely reason are: 1 the remote comupter is not set up for this. 2. Reached the maximum number of connections. 3. A network error occurred while connecting."
I have set up the XP PC, & taken down all firewalls. I only have one user account and it has a password. I've even tried using Hamachi with one of their VPN ip addresses (awesome and free for pc2pc). I 've combed trhough my router settings too, and tried to clear everything there, too. I can RD from an XP laptop, so ti seems to be something on the unit, to me. I've also setup file sharing w/ Total Commander (it's served my purposes amply).
I really have googled & googled & googled. If anyone has any idea what is going on, I'd be grateful for some ideas.
Have you enabled the RDP on the host computer?
Right click my computer
Properties
Remote
Then enable allow user to connect remotely.
Will only work on XP Pro, or Vista if you choose to allow older clients which they scaremonger you against by saying it's less secure.
Danke!
I've been scared away from Vista for the usual "new" OS reasons, but perhaps it's getting to be time for me to haul my old conservative back-end into the modern world.
Thanks so much for taking the time!
(and to Biohead: yes, I followed the instructions I lauded so vehemently.... ???)
you're running vista?
and you haven't been able to connect still, right?
sorry i could walk you through xp, but man vista sucks, i wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole.
i'm setting up remote desktop on my iphone
hahaha totally referred to this guide
and it sucks, so i'm sticking with vnc
man, i miss my exec/universal
dutchschultz said:
any detailed how to guide?, i can do it, i'm fairly tech savvy, so i just need to kneed out a few things. maybe if you caould start from the beginning and i can see where i went wrong.
logmein.com works, but i want something more personal, just bewtween the computer and my phone. somerthing that looks good and scales full screen preferably.
please guys?, point me in the right direction.. all the posts just keep saying to search and there's lots of info, but there's no step by step guide.
thanks guys!
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Hope this helps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366312
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294524
orb3000 said:
Hope this helps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366312
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294524
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you, my friend, are awesome
A possible solution for those of us on T-Mobile's standard web n walk
Sorry to resurrect this thread, but I thought I'd post my experiences here in case anyone else (like me) searches for a solution to enabling RDP on T-Mobile (UK at least).
I was having the same problem with remote desktop, it saying that the server was not available. I phoned up T-Mobile's helpdesk as recommended here and after getting past first line support (who didn't know what remote desktop was, and tried sending new connection settings to my phone to resolve the issue) I got through to someone who knew what they were talking about. Turns out that I'm on T-Mobile's "basic" or "handset-only" web-n-walk package, and it's not possible to use RDP on this. I assume they block the relevant ports. They told me that I could pay an extra fiver a month to upgrade to a version of web-n-walk which can handle RDP.
Well I told them I would think about it, but instead tried to find a way around it as the one or two times I need to use RDP are certainly not worth a fiver a month. My solution is probably only suitable for the more techy of us, but without much work and with no prior experience I managed to set up a SSH tunnel using FreeSSHd as a server running on my windows server (although a normal windows box should work fine - http://www.freesshd.com/) and zaTunnel as a client on my phone (http://www.zatelnet.com/zatunnel/main.php). Both programs are free.
Basically my phone takes all RDP connections and tunnels them over SSH to my windows server, which then turns them back into RDP connections. T-Mobile have no idea I'm using RDP, and if they block the SSH port in the future I can always change FreeSSHd to run on port 80 (for web). This will also work for other protocols T-Mobile might be blocking (FTP springs to mind).
Just thought I'd post this in case anyone was in my situation of needing RDP on their standard web'n'walk.
Edit Sorry posted this in the wrong thread! Will leave this post up however just in case someone finds it useful
echolock
Many thanks for the above have been searching everywhere for a fix to this. I am the same as you T Mobile (UK) and can't connect.
Could you give some additional advice as how you got the RDP to work.
For the record I can connect by Wi-Fi and by using a PAYG sim from a different carrier. However, I am on a contract with T Mobile and don't want to carry a different sim just to use the RDP.
I have installed both apps. I can make a connection from zaTunnel on Port SSH:24 to the freeSSHD server (SSH - listening on port 24). Other than adding a User and changing the default port to 24 there are no other changes I have made in freeSSHD.
Under the connections tab in zaTunnel I have left Network: Automatic with the other settings relevant to make a connection.
Under the ports tab of zaTunnel I have
LP> 3389,
IP/URL . IP of the desktop I want to connect to of 192.168.1.10
>RP 3389
When I the start the Remote Desktop app under my Windows Mobile 6.1 it indicates connecting the fails as before.
Also forgot to mention freeSSHD is running on the desktop I want to connect to.
Sure thing.
When you run Remote Desktop under Windows Mobile, make sure you connect to "localhost" NOT to the IP of the desktop you want to connect to.
Your other settings seem correct to me.
To attempt to explain a little, basically what happens is as follows. For simplicity's sake I will have three machines, your phone, your SSH server and your RDP server (although the latter two can be the same).
On your phone:
1) Remote Desktop connects to localhost on port 3389.
2) zaTunnel is listening on localhost on port 3389. It echos all commands sent to this port out on port 22 over your cellular connection to your SSH server, also providing details of your RDP server and port.
On your SSH server:
3) FreeSSHd receives the commands sent over port 22 and is told by zaTunnel to convert them to commands sent to your RDP server using port 3389.
On your RDP server:
4) Remote Desktop receives a normal RDP request over the normal port from your SSH server.
5) Responses are sent to your SSH server.
On your SSH server:
6) FreeSSHd receives the RDP responses, and sends them back to your phone over port 22.
On your phone:
7) zaTunnel converts the commands sent over port 22 back into RDP commands sent over port 3389.
8) Remote desktop receives a response from zaTunnel and thinks it's connected directly to an RDP server on localhost. In actuality it's connected to your RDP server using an SSH tunnel provided by zaTunnel and FreeSSHd.
Hope this makes sense, I'm not very good at explaining this!
Ah found another problem. The IP of your desktop you say is 192.168.1.10 - this is a local IP address so will only work on your local network.
Go to a website like http://whatismyipaddress.com/ from the machine you run SSHd on to find out what your current "external" IP address is. Bear in mind that most home broadband connections have a "dynamic" address which is allocated to you and might change from time to time - you can always use something like http://www.dyndns.com/services/dns/dyndns/ to set yourself up with a static hostname, and run a program on your machine which updates your hostname with the correct IP address every time it changes. Some routers have this functionality built in.
Thanks for the quick response and explanation.
Between posting and reading your reply I had worked out the RDP app needs the localhost or the IP 127.0.0.1.
I had come back here to post, so others would know in future.
Your other point you raised about the desktop IP. I have used this only in the ports tab on zaTunnel. The connection tab has a proper mydomainname.com address. (Provides email and a webmail interface).
Anyway, can connect now and thank you again in solving this for me. (If your in Leeds I will buy you a beer).
Ah yeah the 192.* address would work on the ports tab, fair enough. Might be worth pointing out if others read this that this is only the case if the machine you're trying to RDP to is on the same local network (or the same machine) as the machine you have FreeSSHd running on.
But good to hear you got it working Now hopefully T-Mobile won't cotton-on and decide to block port 22 too...

Remote Desktop WM6 T-Mobile Wing help

I have been searching for clarity thru islands of info in the forums as well as the net. Any help directing me would be sweet. I am trying to use my T-Mobile Wing HTC WM6 to control a computer on my home network. I have somewhat knowledge of having the server and client. Have read and installed programs. I want to be at McDonalds *or any wifi spot and log in to home computer. When I have a VNC server running it says the network ip address of 192.168.1.101 but I assume thats because its thru my network. I have went to what is my ip address.com and tried that with the port the server allows in the vnc viewer and had no luck. I think I might be too newb for such an advanced concept. I am somewhat computer savvy to alot of technical terms. If anyone could help it would be greatly appreciated. I use messengers if faster communication is necessary. Thanks in advance to any help or thoughts.
homiedaclown said:
I have been searching for clarity thru islands of info in the forums as well as the net. Any help directing me would be sweet. I am trying to use my T-Mobile Wing HTC WM6 to control a computer on my home network. I have somewhat knowledge of having the server and client. Have read and installed programs. I want to be at McDonalds *or any wifi spot and log in to home computer. When I have a VNC server running it says the network ip address of 192.168.1.101 but I assume thats because its thru my network. I have went to what is my ip address.com and tried that with the port the server allows in the vnc viewer and had no luck. I think I might be too newb for such an advanced concept. I am somewhat computer savvy to alot of technical terms. If anyone could help it would be greatly appreciated. I use messengers if faster communication is necessary. Thanks in advance to any help or thoughts.
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a few thoughts,
1. what version of windows are you running. (e.g Xp Home or vista )
as Vista home basic and premium will not accept a remote desktop connection without a 3rd party hack to make it work only business and ultimate support remote desktop
If on XP home be sure to set allowing of remote desktop sessions to be allowed under the system properties area.
2. do you have a password setup on the user account that you log into windows on if no remote desktop will not allow access.
3. when browsing from a 3rd party network ( e.g mcdonalds or over GPRS/HSDPA ) you browse to your external ip not the dark ip of 192.168.1.x i use dyndns.org so i can just browse to the dynamic domain ip which is my external ip of my home pc
4. since you mentioned a dark ip i can only also assume your using a router at home. this means you either use such as LogmeIn/Hamachi and browse to the home pc's Hamachi IP ( e.g 5.5.100.50 ) or you will have to set a port forward in your router to forward any requests from port 3389 to the local IP of the home pc, ( e.g 192.168.1.100 )
I use static ip's in my router at home to ensire that the port forward will always goto my home pc's internal ip address. My particular router from netgear allows to have the ip of a specific machine be assigned the same ip internally based on it's ethernet adapter MAC address. making no changes required on the pc itself other them standard DHCP.
hope this helps.
1. what version of windows are you running. (e.g Xp Home or vista )
as Vista home basic and premium will not accept a remote desktop connection without a 3rd party hack to make it work only business and ultimate support remote desktop
If on XP home be sure to set allowing of remote desktop sessions to be allowed under the system properties area.
1. I am using Windows XP Home. I have allowed Remote Access under the tab Systems Tab.
2. I only have a pw on the prog VNC server on the pc but no passwords for windows *should I? :| ... Then I try VNC Viewer the the Pocket PC *T-mobile Wing.
3. I am reading up on the dyndns.org site. I assume I need the free dns service for those with dynamic IP addresses. *i hope I have that.
4. I have Linksys Bef11s4... I believe I can set static ip's though its tricky for me. I am going to try for the pc I want to connect to. This networking stuff gets a little bit blurry for me. I understand that static means non-changing, therefore the pc to connect to in network will have same ip on restarts and things. I am familiar with the port forwarding options *do i need tcp and udp checked?... again any thoughts definately appreciated...
lastly, Do you have any particular progs you recommend for me to do this concept? I have a few installed, but not sure i need all.. I have pocketputty on pda and wm6 rdc... plus vncvier. On the PC i have VNC CLient and VNC Server *believe I only need server. Thank you for your time Cyberjak
1. Just go to http://www.logmein.com
2. Sign up. It's free.
3. Screw Remote Desktop and juggling internal vs. external IP addresses and DNS.
4. Use/enjoy...no work needed.
MJB
Logmein has like 6 choices... I am looking to remote access outside my network... also is this free? I see trials and stuff... thanks for help mjb
have the logme in installed on main and when i use pda it doesnt work...i installed cab and log in fine but when i go to remote the pc it takes my access code and then pops up with error message for menuPDA.html... i cleared history and cookies and tried to make sense of the forums... I am using the T-mobile Wing with WM6.... wierd... willing to try the other way if needed... i guess i could also try loggin thru a pc not home to the remote pc... i believe i saying this remote term correctly but i believe u understand. I am trying to use my PDA anywhere to control home pc.... thanks for help guys... i am willing to try whatever way works...
I've used Logmein on my MDA Pro, Ameo and now on my Vario 3.
You should first try to remote your PC while your sitting next to it. That way you can see any firewall pop ups that may be blocking you.
I have been trying when i am right next to it... I am using my WM6 to connect wi-fi to the internet thru my network.... the pc i wanna control is on my network...
It doesn't matter what network the PDA and PC are on. Logmein uses an internet connection.
yeah, tried a bunch of things to get logmein to work, and it always comes to the page of "403 Forbidden (0x5) menuPDA.html System error: Access is denied. (5)"
checked their forrums too...
guessing i should try going back to client/server manual entry... either way, any advice from you guys much appreciated.... It seems WM6 are known for incompatibility issues with RDC situations.... hoping not the case but...thanks again guys
got logmein working nicely, thank you for the help guys...
Gooer Remote Desktop Service
I am using Gooer Remote Desktop Service(http://www.gooer.com) and it let me access my home PC using laptop or mobile phone.
remote desktop only works, as far as I know, on XP pro & Vista
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=357009

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