SSH,IRC,IM cleints & Linux & connectivity/syncing to - MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General

Hi Guys,
Some simple Questions that I cant seem to find much of a conclusive answer to for most.
Looking at purchasing the Orange version of the Himalaya/XDAii (SPV M1000) VERY shortly, but wondered if you guys (whom seem to know everything about these toys) could answer me some quick questions:
All software ideally would be opensource & and under FreeBSD or GPL2.
1. SSH Client - are there any available that support passphrases etc (recomendations)?
2. IRC Client - is there any (recomendations)?
3. IM Clients (other than M$'s) (recomendations) - looking for minimal functionality?
4. Does PPC2003 have a task switcher, or do you have to close, and reopen things?
5. Iv'e seen some posts here that talk about Linux connectivity, how good is it, and what exactly can be synced, and to what?
6. Can any of the syncing of contacts/mail etc be done to NON M$ apps on the PC with/without 3rdparty apps? Ideally anyone know of any apps to sync with Mozilla (under XP).
7. I assume email is regular pop/smtp/imap so one can whack in custom servers/details etc (ala non hotSPAMrelay.com stuff)? Or is there an alternative to M$LookOut thats known to work with mutiple accounts on the XDAii?
8. What level of Java is supported on these little things? e.g. will they run MindTerm SSH clients?
9. Anyone run this with sync/connection to WinXP running in a VM under Linux?
10. Is there a cygwin availble for the PPC2003 OS, and is it anygood? (Iv'e heard rumours of a M$ written version)
11. Can the Himalayer be used as a webcam via Bluetooth/GPRS? Im thinking 'not of me' webcam, being the camera is on the back
I was very badly dissapointed by the obscure and totally lacking information on M$ site - though it's probably there, just impossible to find like most other things.
Many Thanks Guys!

Re: SSH,IRC,IM cleints & Linux & connectivity/syncin
1. SSH Client
Avaible some clients. I think there are a PuTTY port too. I think without a keyboard, console window is unuseable.
2. IRC Client - is there any
I never use, search google.
3. IM Clients (other than M$'s) (recomendations) - looking for minimal functionality?
There is MSN built in, and does not working, because it need to upgrade There are an official ICQ program ww.icq.com.
This is nice:
http://www.movsoftware.com/products/imov/imov.htm
(AOL, ICQ, MSN)
4. Does PPC2003 have a task switcher, or do you have to close, and reopen things?
There is a very basic taskmanager-like memory manager utility built in. There is some utility program, they make a taskbar like desktop computers, and there is some real taskmanager and process wiever program. Search PHM taskmanager on the net.
To test, how the PocketPC working, download the free MS development SDK. It contains an emulator.
5. Iv'e seen some posts here that talk about Linux connectivity, how good is it, and what exactly can be synced, and to what?
I tested linux on ipaq 3630. Its good, but syncing with linux or windows is not working at this time. (only contacts as I remember)
http://www.handhelds.org
There is screenshots too, but it not work on XDA I think.
6. Can any of the syncing of contacts/mail etc be done to NON M$ apps on the PC with/without 3rdparty apps? Ideally anyone know of any apps to sync with Mozilla (under XP).
As I heard, you can synchronize with BAT.
7. I assume email is regular pop/smtp/imap so one can whack in custom servers/details etc (ala non hotSPAMrelay.com stuff)? Or is there an alternative to M$LookOut thats known to work with mutiple accounts on the XDAii?
I don't understand the question well because of my wrong english.
You can setup different accounts, and there is many 3th party e-mail clients. A free and good one: nPOP
8. What level of Java is supported on these little things? e.g. will they run MindTerm SSH clients?
There is several (mor than 10) different JAVA stuff for pocket pc. Search it on this forum! I have never tried java.
9. Anyone run this with sync/connection to WinXP running in a VM under Linux?
I don't know. The XP under the VM can see USB?
10. Is there a cygwin availble for the PPC2003 OS, and is it anygood? (Iv'e heard rumours of a M$ written version)
Good idea What do you want with your pocket pc? )
11. Can the Himalayer be used as a webcam via Bluetooth/GPRS? Im thinking 'not of me' webcam, being the camera is on the back
dont know
If you have more questions, write it. I will answer what I can.

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Does anyone know an alternative to Terminal Services Client?

Hey there, now that I've got my shiney new XDA Exec, with its VGA Screen and inbuilt Wi-fi I want to have a play with the Terminal Services Client to control my PC...I'm pretty sure that's what it can be used for right?
Well anyway from what I've read TSC can connect to (among other things) Win XP Pro computers with remote desktop enabled...however my computer only has XP Home so I can't do this, so can anyone recommend an alternative (possibly better?) program that I can use to control my XP Home PC using my XDA Exec....
cheers!
VNC (free)
GoToMyPC (not free)
There is more information in the "terminal services full screen" thread in this forum.
I have been using GoToMyPC for a long time. It's a subscription-based service. But I am happy with it. Very stable and functional. And full-screen.
prob with those apps is, terminal services connects to all modern windows operating systems and no extra software is needed, im not running round the country installing vnc onto everything, if its already got RDC/Terminal Services intergrated. On my work network i have access to 36k+ machines, yer 36,000 machines. all 2000,XP,2003, the other 30k machines are still NT or 98, upgrades aint a overnight thing!!!
so you see, not an option im afraid
*edit* what really grinds me is that i would have thought it was obvious to M$ that fullscreen should be an option, but as with the diabolical MSNM, the most obvious upgrades never appear, surlly in that groups aint a hard thing to do. and turn the bloody beeping off when ppl sign in.
Obvious things strategicly lost??
use www.logmein.com man its freakin great and you can use for free
if you put your device in landscape it is a clean view too
z2remote2pc works a little better than logmein, I think. A little more control of the desktop with z2. LogMeIn is nice though.
but do these apps use the RDC protocol ? i cannot amend 30k+ machines just to do remote desktop, it has to be compatible else its pretty useless to me soz
Carnivor, I presume your request is satisfied?
Why on earth 30,000 machines? Heyzus!
What PDA are you using?
V
30k machines is roughly the number of client machines the company i work for has. i have access to them all via TS, not that i need them all, i mainly access a handful of desktops that are mine, and the clients servers.
its quite handy to be able to wifi my desktop in the room next door when im standing at a rack in the server room as there is nothing but racks in there and an additional desktop in there would get easilly spotted.
im on a Jasjar btw, happy to test your app wink wink**
and i have VS 2005, is it poss for a 2003 project to be loaded into VS 2005 and compiled??? if you aint got it yet its a possibility
ps, ohh yes, im satisified, its what should have been done on theyre attempt ( M$ )
Carnivor - I have Visual Studio 2005 Beta 2. I'm waiting on RC1 because the tools I use in Beta 2 don't work properly on the WM5 emulator. As soon as I get a new version of VS2005, I'll sort through the WM5 issues and bang out a preliminary version for you guys to try.
The current version should still work nicely even on Wm5, but only in Portrait QVGA. However, a full landscape VGA version should follow soonish.
If you've got a spare VGA PDA, send it my way! I'm desperate :wink:
V
Microsoft Visual Studio 2005
Version 8.0.50727.42 (RTM.050727-4200)
Microsoft .NET Framework
Version 2.0.50727
thats the version i have

remote desktop applications

Hi
i have a question these remote desktop application where you can access your pc via your mda
can i be able to view the videos on my desktop too
or not?
Thanks
The included Terminal Services application is the only one that will work with Microsoft terminal services to my knowledge, but if you like VNC search Handango or PocketGear for PTVNC WM5 edition.
IMHO, there isn't a mature PC remoting client available for the Pocket PC yet. They are all last-ditch-effort applications that will consume lots of your time if you want to get any serious work done, and are really only meant for use if you absolutely have to get on your PC for whatever reason while you are in the middle of nowhere.
PTvncWM5
You can now but PTvncWM5 and our other software directly from our website using PayPal:
http://www.parystec.demon.co.uk/PT_software.htm
There are trial versions of all the PTvnc software except PTvnc2.
The website looks terrible (bad design) in Firefox.

[Wizard] to PC Remote Access - any help or advice?

Hi! Hope you could help me (again) :?
First I need to tell - I was searching the forum and net, but unfortunately I can't find what I'm exactly looking for.
(I'm asking about Wizard not Universal / Himalaya...)
What is in your opinion the best (easiest, fastest, most readable with 320x240 resolution, working full screen and in landscape mode, cheapest...) way to remotely connect to the desktop workstation?
[1] Connecting to the Linux box
1A. Command line / shell via ssh/ssh2 – there’s no need to use any special server software nor configuration, but there’s a question about the best client software. Right now I'm going to use http://www.pocketputty.net/. Did you try any of these with Wizard?
PocketPuTTY 0.1 for WM2003 (stable)
PocketPuTTY 0.2 for PPC2002 (highly experimental, unstable)
PocketPuTTY 2006-05-04 dev snapshot for WM2003 (latest, highly experimental)
How stable is the “dev snapshot” version and is there any other (free or almost free) ssh/ssh2 client for PocketPC?
I used to use PuTTY for Symbian S60 and it worked like a charm...
1B. Remote Desktop – what is the best client-server software to do it?
I used to use VNC for Linux PC – Linux PC connection, but I’m not sure if it’s good idea to use VNC with (so) small screen. Any tips and tricks or suggestions how to configure both ends?
[2] Connecting to WindowsXP PC
2A. Command line / shell via ssh/ssh2 – is it possible at all?
Will I need software acting as a server on the PC or there is this kind of software already in the system? Tips & Tricks & configuration examples are very welcome
2B. Remote Desktop – the best client & server software to do it?
Should I use VNC (server and client, like under Linux) or Remote Desktop server already incorporated in WinXP (what about the client in this case)?
And finally – where I can find a manual, help files or specification of the TSC pre installed on my device? Is this software useable?
Maybe I’m looking for something I already have…
Sorry for plenty of questions, but longer I'm searching - more questions I have.
I really appreciate yours opinions
All advices, links, PM's are very, very welcome
Thanks in advance
exbros
exbros said:
And finally – where I can find a manual, help files or specification of the TSC pre installed on my device? Is this software useable?
Maybe I’m looking for something I already have…
exbros
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To use the pre installed terminal server you need to turn on remote desktop (winxp pro) and input your ip address on the wizard in the terminal server application, as long as your firewall is configured to allow the connection you should be able to control your pc using the software you already have, alternatively you can use services like log me in etc.
good luck
post back if you hit trouble
Rob
I use logmein.com's basic, free service. simple, quick, encrypted and you dont have to remember ip's or anything.
try http://gomyplace.com/ if you need something simple just to browse files on the remote and execute commands in the command shell
you will need just a regular internet browser to access the remot host
free, open source (GPL), works in NATed, firewalled environments, dynamic IPs, etc.
runs on Linux/Win32/Mac requires Java on the host machine
client needs only internet browser
Linux
PocketPuTTy is the way to go for connecting to a linux machine remotely, I'm using the latest dev build on my PDA and haven't found any issues yet, although i have only been using it for about 2 days. It works fine on the screensize too as its only command line.
Windows
I wouldn't even bother with command line for windows, as its horribly underpowered and wont provide you with much usability. It is possible to run SSH on windows, but like I said, I would see no reason too.
I used to have a VNC client for my old Axim X50 which ran great, it supported screen scaling, so it would fit my entire 1600x1280 screen onto the PDA no problems, and zoomed in when I required. It was only really usable to perform very simple tasks, but thats all I needed. Unfortunately I don't remember the clients name, however there are a number on the market that provide the same features.. maybe trying the following?
http://www.parystec.demon.co.uk/pt_vnc_WM5.htm
I use realVNC for my server. Oh and any VNC client should work with any VNC server, so if you installed VNC on linux, this should work fine.
Hope that helps

Anyone tried synchronize with SynCE (Linux)?

I want to migrate to Linux (currently testing OpenSUSE 10.2) but I also would like to have possibility to synchronize my contacts, calendar etc. with my HTC TyTN. Has anyone tried it? I've heard that there were problems with devices using WM 5.0, but also recently I've found some info that latest versions of SynCE are compatibile with these devices. Please advise.
Haven't tried it in Hermes, but I read SynCE works now with WinCE 5.
I tried this, but it seems so complicated... I wish I had more time... Requires kernel recompiling, adding some custom driver modules, etc... And the usage seems limited.
just recently i've found option to synchronize with Pockets and Palms already included in openSUSE 10.2 but haven't had the possibility to try that out yet. i will let you know how it works (or not) when I'll have an opportunity to check it.
Funambol seems to offer a range of solutions. I'm going to try it, but haven't yet.
There is a connector for pocket pc, and to most backends in regular use. It might be a bit over the top for most people, and might require a server running exchange or suchlike. Which is the sort of environment I will be using it in (possibly kolab).
yeah, the SynCE gui is a mess; the fork's been dead for a while it would seem. I've got the underlying services running but never got it to actually connect with my TyTN. I stopped debugging a few weeks ago.
What the heck is "Pockets and Palms". I'm running SLED 10 and there's nothing here. Google turns up a blank as well. Anyone got a link?

Can a Palm OS platform run simultaniously on a WM6 phone?

Hi guys, I have an HTC touch (sprint) and got a job with a air balancing company and they have software that links their ppc's to their server for live data entry. however the application is only available for the palm os. Does anyone know if installing multiple OS's on a phone is even possible, like installing linux on an ipod? or if not, any way to convert a palm os application to WM6 combatible application. If needed, i have the install files for my application, any assistance would be greatly appreciated. If nothing exists i would even consider payment for the application to be convtered if anyone is intrested.
Thank you
Matt
you would probably have to build the application up again from the ground up if its a native palm application, although, if its written in a common language, i dont see why it couldnt be ported over
somebody more knowledgable should be able to help you better
and welcome to xda-devs
you can use styletap to run palmOS apps on windows mobile, if this is what you want to do.
Well, im 50% there, styletap works great, im able to load the software and run it, no glitches yet, however styletap doesnt seem to be allowing the application to sync with my server. any1 have any ideas? i even tried first establishing a data conn in WM6 using IE and hopped back to style tap to sync again. no luck

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