Hello
Been here for awhile just reading and reading. As with some peeps I went and did an upgrade from my provider and am running the following.
Rom Ver - A.30.09.ENG
Radio - A.33.03
Protocol - 1.3.3
The Phone came with PPC 2002 on it. When I saw that my provider had an upgrade I just d/led it and installed it. After the upgrade, the unit worked great but the volume had issues and the signal strength seems to be less than is was with the previous radio. Is there any way to go back to the older radio stack version but still keep the updated ROM??? I have since been to Lumpi's and messed around with cooked ROMS. Now I can't even run the providers upgrade again because it says I have the wrong ROM. Any help would be great!
edit: What I really want to do is run the rogers ontario upgrade ROM with the old radio stack. Again any help would be great.
If you go to lumpis kitchen, cook a rom that contans all you want either 2002 or wm2003, at the bottom of the page choose sd card flashing, this will give you a zipped nbf file, unzip it and use xdatools to program an sd card with the rom image, you choose the nbf as source and from the drop down choose your card reader writer, once programmed place in xda, push reset while holding power, push action key when prompted, this will overwrite your rom without giving country protection or version error, charge your xda first.
Not sure what to say here. As I stated in my original post, I have been to Lumpi's kitchen. He doesn't have the ROM for Rogers Wireless in Canada, he has an older one for Rogers AT&T which is no longer. He also doesn't have any RSU's just ROM's. However this is not my question. I can live with that. As I stated, I would really like to downgrade the radio stack. I seemed to get better signal strength and less dropped calls when I had the previous version. Had I known that when I got the Rogers Wireless upgrade, it was going to upgrade the RSU as well, I wouldn't have done it. Thanks
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Thank you forum (especially Jeff - for the ROM Kitchen, Qman - for the radio stack, Yorch and Aurora13 - for obtaining 4.00.xx for T-mobile)!
From reading the majority of the past posts (since the beginning) and over the course of a week, I have backed up my original ROM to a SD card via the bootloader method and went from this:
(US T-mobile MDA)
ROM v3.14.40 ENG
ROM date 11/26/02
Radio v6.18
Protocol 324e4
to this:
ROM v4.00.16 ENG
ROM date 07/10/03
Radio v6.24
Protocol 324e4
(via the desktop .exe file)
Everything works just fine except for one concern...under Phone->Tools->Options, I no longer have the "More" and/or "Band" (900/1900) tabs available. I know I could switch bands via the bootloader method; otherwise, will I miss anything by not having these options available?
With a business trip to Europe coming up, if I downgrade back to 3.14.40, will retaining the 6.24 radio stack be much of an issue?
Thanks again in advance to anyone who can help!
There be a slight problem with the downgrade involving the radio stack but that can be overcome by removing a certain file from the startup folder during the radio stack part.
But I'll make it a little bit easier for you, since you're California and I'm in Nevada just send me a 64MB SD card and I'll do a .bin file install to it and send it back. That way you can just install the correct or needed WM2003 ROM with the options that you seek or need.
Anyhow if this sound like a plan just drop me an email, you already have my correct/needed email address so feel free to use it
HTH
Thanks again Qman!
I've just sent you a message to your email addy.
BR,
Rey
I'm sick of waiting for an answer from T-Mobile on when WM2003 will be available for the PPCPhone Edition, if at all, so I decided to create an executable of 4.00.16 at Jeff's kitchen.
I'm a little freaky about installing it. So before I do I would like to know (1) problems encountered from those that have done the upgrade and (2) the exact instructions on how to return back to my original T-Mobile OS ROM.
I know there are many of you out there that feel the same anguish regarding T-Mobile's lack of information regarding WM2003 & the hopes of better software that improves the PPC's ability to connect via GPRS (it sucks now) and overall performance. After all, we spent a load of money on this sucker.
Thank you in advance to all the gurus out there who answer this for the rest of us
If you install the XDAtools, you can create a backup of your ROM through ActiveSync. If at any time you click on the backup file, you will be offered the option of burning it back into your device.
However: since your new ROM is 4.00.16, you need to know there is a problem: you cannot use the normal upgrade program called "Programme A" to move away from 4.00.16. But you can use the option in the XDAtools to write your old old OS to an SD card using the XDA (all files on the SD-card will be erased in the process). Then you can boot the device in bootloader mode and press the center of the rocker switch to load your old OS.
My guess is you'll be almost perfectly happy with 4.00.16 though (at least happier than with any 3.x ROM) . Just be aware of the one remaining problem: occasional SD-card erasures have been reported by some people (they do not seem to affect everyone), so do not store valuable data on SD without backup.
I upgraded to 4.00.16 yesterday and still can't get GPRS to work. Sometimes it says it connects but I can't get to anything and other times it gives me an error trying to connect. I've been trying everything I can think of for GPRS settings. I'm on T-Mobile in Atlanta with Radio version 6.18.00. I'm not sure if you will have the same problem or not.
I had trouble connecting through GPRS too at one point where I thought it was ROM 4.00.16. But I finally did connect.
One of the major reasons for upgrading was an expected improvement in GPRS performance. If anything, it got worse. Do I have to upgrade the radio rom too for improvement in GPRS?
rfeagin:
I had similar problems following the upgrade, and as an afterthought I went to my local TMo store and exchanged my SIM chip. Mine was three years old, and the new SIM fixed the problem. Also, if you upgrade the radio stack to 6.24 or the AT&T stack, you will gain persistent GPRS connectivity.
David
SO the TMo store will swap sim cards with me if I go in and tell them I want a new one? Also... where can I find the radio stack 6.24 stack or the AT&T?
Thanks for your help. I really would like to get this working again.
I've heard that its very difficult if at all possible to downgrade the Radio ROM back to its normal state. This is why I have not done it yet.
I posted instructions in the following thread for locating and installing the 6.24 radio stack: http://xda-developers.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=2452&highlight=. If you would like the AT&T files (I prefer the TMo files), send me a PM and I will help you get them.
Downgrading radio stacks is difficult, and maybe impossible in some cases, but as long as you have the four files listed in the referenced thread, it seems to work well.
David
I backed up my original ROM on an SD Card so I could revert back to it from 4.00.16. I tired to revert back today but for some reason the image is not on the SD card. Now what?
How can I get my old T-Mobile ROM back? Any ideas?
If you have a Card Reader, you can use XDATools to burn a rom image onto it, then use that image to reload your XDA via the SDCard method...
I just bought a SDCard reader from WalMart, for 19 bucks, it is a Lexar JumpDrive Trio, and it can read SD cards, XD CArds, and Sony Memorystick, and it is USB 2.0..
It is nice, albeit a bit flimsy..
But it works.
B
camarao said:
How can I get my old T-Mobile ROM back? Any ideas?
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Yes, you can download it from here:
Current T-Mobile 2002 ROM Update:
http://www.t-mobile.com/products/handhelds/pocketpc/downloads.asp
Will upgrade to this version:
ROM version: 3.14.40 ENG
ROM date: 11/26/02
Radio: 6.18
Protocol: 324e4
HTH
camarao said:
I'm sick of waiting for an answer from T-Mobile on when WM2003 will be available for the PPCPhone Edition, if at all, so I decided to create an executable of 4.00.16 at Jeff's kitchen.
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Is there anywhere the more adventurous among the non-linux population can try this baby?
Cato
Qman:
Are you saying that I will be able to download and install the T-Mobile executable over my 4.00.16 version?
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Qman:
Are you saying that I will be able to download and install the T-Mobile executable over my 4.00.16 version?
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I'm not sure about if the executable will work or not but if does fail you can always use the bootloader method!
I just want to check that this is correct since I'm new at this. I cooked a rom on xda.weblink.net and selected the t-mobile 4.01.16 rom and all the options i want and selected the .exe option. Then when I run the .exe and im about to click upgrade it says I will be upgrading to rom 3.16 (attached screenshot). i thought i was upgrading to 4.01.16?
Do not worry!
ignore the info and go ahead, you will get 4.01.16
after all the problems i've heard about, i wonder if i shouldnt just use the SD card method. This is my only phone and without it I am screwed! Does the SD card method update the radio like this one does?
The sd card method is used with the ce part of the rom, if your radio stack is working ok I suggest you leave it alone. I think the reason the screen says it is installing a different version is because it is patching code so the rom is accepted rather than being rejected because of a mismatch of country/rom/version etc.
i've heard that the radio stack for this version will increase gprs speed
I just bought a SX56 From ATT and want to change the Rom to T-mobile. I searched all this forum but everythig seem dificult to understand. Can Some one help me find an origianl rom for T-Mobile. And can give me a link on how to update it using SD Card.
Att wont work correctly with my Tmobile card. My neighbor is using the Att phone with a Tmobile rom and works bette than mine. (reception wise)
search for the word(s) ROM Kitchen.
Or just click here
http://xda.weblink.net/
or here
http://lumpistefan.dyndns.org/
or here
http://www.Yorch.net
Just browse around alot. There are thousands of pages to go through. Don't be afraid. Get a pack of smokes, some liquer, and start reading. Just after your brain goes numb, read a litte more, take a shot, and then do some stretches and get back to it.
Understand that the MDA is actually two devices in one. There is a radio and a PDA. You can upgrade one or both, at the same time or not. Flashing can be extremely dangerous. The bootloader the worst, radio second, and OS least. If you can just get the EXE for Tmo, it should flash both RIL and OS in the least painful way (it still hurts though). Also the latest Rom (to my knowledge) is 4.01.16. Good luck!
Thanks, hope i find what im looking for.
One last question. Which is the original ATT Rom. I only see T-Mobile and some o2. Just incase this doest work for me i want to put the original Rom back and poss. sell it.
Does Siemens have the origianl Rom.
Rom Kitchens
There are very few good working rom kitchens, in fact lumpistefans is the only I know of at the moment.
The ATT roms seem to have dissapeared lately. Lumpistefans has a single ATT rom all the way at the bottom. A.30.09
That rom works fine on my SX56 right now.
I have installed the latest ENG T-mobile rom on another SX56 and it works just fine under T-Mobile.
Get XDAtools from here and make sure you get the full one with Programma A and the Bootloader files. Put your SD in a SD card reader attached to your PC and then use XDAtools to put the .NB file you get from the rom kitchen onto the SD. XDAtools should put the bootloader files on it automatically. Then just put it into the SX56 and reset it. It should ask you if you want to flash the device and press the action key. 10 minutes later you should have a nice new T-Mobile phone. Just remember DO NOT put it in the cradle or touch it in any way shape or form while it is flashing. Just leave the thing alone till its done. If you do that, then you should be safe.
Thats really all there is to it.
You may need to update the radio for it to work more efficiently on T-mobile's network, I don't know. Also, you should back up your current ROM and RIL to SD or MMC, copy to PC, and burn it to CD, FYI, IMHO.
(I wanted to see how many accronyms I could use in a row, and still make sense)
In anycase, if you backup your device first, you won't have to worry about what roms are not available later, and that you will have one to work on your device, should you want to sell it as an SX56. Also, ATT just got bought by Cingular, and ATT is phasing out, which might explain the lack of ROMs ?????
Here is rom with new Radio ROM 1.04
http://extendedsystems.dk/download/qtek/2020i/WWE_Sonofon_11100_165_10400_Ship.exe
Enjoy
Thank for the new radio, but some how I got country erro on the processing upgrade.
Please Help.
is this for the xda 2i please ..only asking as i'm not sure
thanks
This rom is only for Alpine phones, thats the 2i, 2020i etc.
As soon as my broadband is working again (tomorrow hopefully) I'll post the O2 162 rom with the radio 1.04 update for the UK users and anyone else who wants it.
If you want to try this update on the 2i you will need to extract the files from the installer and locate a copy of maupgradeut_noid.exe and use that instead of the included installer. There are better instructions elsewhere on this site, just do a search for my name, I'll be in amongst it all somewhere.
cheers i'll give it a go but if you are doing it maybe i'll wait ,i've only just gone back to your old 1 tonight as i don't use blackberry & it seemed better than o2 update
I have just posted the ROM upgrade on the ftp site, the only change is the radio from 1.03 to 1.04. It seems to give a better signal strength than version 1.03 on my phone anyway.
Here's the link to download the O2 version I just combined
(Edited to working link
ftp://xda:[email protected] XDA_IIi_Upgrade_v1.11.162_Radio_1.04.rar
1: Backup your contacts/device to Storage, Storage Card or PC. If you are using Ext Rom 1.11.162 now you can use full device backup to restore at the end to save you re-installing all your programs later.
2: Extract the ROM using Winrar to a folder of your choice.
3: Run MaUpgradeUT_Noid.exe. The install will fail, don't worry, just run it again without touching the phone.
4: When the upgrade has finished, do a hard reset by pressing the power button and reset button at the same time.
5: Install any programs and any data you backed up during step 1.
Good luck.
Excellent stuff
Upgraded and now running 1.04 radio and i can also say it has improved my signal strength too
Big thanks Pug for your work on the ROM image too, very much appreciated.
Hear, Hear. Many thanks to Pug, great work!
many thanks to Pug,
its work perfectly.....no more lag of ringtones or lag after green button pushed!! thanks Pug.....
i want to know about backup, after upgrade ROM, i cant restore back by backup. When using Backup Sprite, i will go back to old ROM after restore complete. any ideas????
@ Clustered
When you say it goes back to the old rom do you mean that the Radio rom is regerted back to 1.03 or that your extended rom goes back to 192 or whichever you are using?
Sprite backup should not revert the radio rom back to 1.03 as it should only do the file system of your device.
As far as the extended ROM version, all it is there for is to indicate the "update" status of the extended ROM and what software is installed in it. An asian rom may have a higher rom version but may be no newer or better than the european 162 rom. You're talking about comparing hedgehogs to wibbles, completely arbitary. As soon as you cook the extended ROM like I have it is completely meaningless anyway as the version number is no longer valid.
If you wish to change the version number yourself, use a registry editor and go to:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\3RDVERSION and change the MSYSTEM value to whatever you like.
If I have the wrong end of the stick, I apologise otherwise I hope this helps.
huh!? are u mad at me ??? anyway, i just wanna tell that you're the great! thanks very much....
I'm not mad at you, just woke up from a night shift....bloody binmen.
Was just trying to figure out which rom was reverting and so on. Hope it was of use to you anyway.
Once again, sorry.
HELP!
I Can't Upgrade the ROM.
step 1 is OK (radio)
Step 2 is OK (EXT):
Step 3 to 8 % PC show : Error 112: CE ROM UPDATE ERROR
WHY???
i run the MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe second Time , but frist Run MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe Need to STOP(use TASK Manager)??
PLEASE HELP ME
thanks for the update ..it's upgrading at the moment
thanks for the update, the only problem i'm having is that even though i've got the in call volume as low as it will go it is still too loud to be comfortable which is a big change from the previous rom. Also when using in the car on handsfree the other person can hear his voice echoing as they speak. Any ideas????
Successfully upgraded my XDAIIi.....
I'm now with the latest ROM from O2 UK (1.11.169 WWE) and the Radio version 1.04.00
Hi, I'm from Malaysia and will this rom be able to use on my device?
I'm using XDA IIi and device id is PH10C.
I'm affraid there will be a problem for my local operator "Maxis".
@ ramnkc
To be honest I can't see a problem with this ROM working with your current operator. I'm pretty sure that others from your neck of the woods are using the ROM with no problems. The biggest problem you would have is that it wouldn't load all your GPRS, WAP, MMS, etc settings as it is a UK rom.
Make sure you can get hold of these settings off your current provider before you perform the upgrade. Or as an alternative, extract your current ROM and reload it back onto your phone using SD card.
thanks for the reply !
Well i guess i gonna wait for the official release coz so far i'm happy with it. Apart of the constant SD Card data missing after playback mid, mp3 or what ever music files from SD Card.
And i finally found out that it cause by SBP pocketplus which had an option to close all application once you tab on X. Once i turn that option off in pocket plus so far problem free.
Guys/gals out there have this problem ?
ykyloveu - Does this mean you have BB Connect as well? The only modified rom from here I can download is based on cer .112 The new rom for o2 with BBConnect is ver .169