I have OZONE PPC2003 ver 3.04.00 and radio ver 4.21.
What are the most up-to-date reliable versions now that can be upgraded using the SDROM method. If you have links to these ROMS please let me know also.
I would suggest a 4.00.05 based ROM from thisROMkitchen.
Why wouldnt you use 4.00.10??
jason.moodie said:
Why wouldnt you use 4.00.10??
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Because when I posted it 4.00.10 wasn't in the kitchen yet...
So is 4.00.10 as stable as 4.00.05 then ?
Also I have seen people saying they cannot get a signal when using Orange with this rom, anyone got any experience with that ?
Cheers
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So is 4.00.10 as stable as 4.00.05 then ?
Also I have seen people saying they cannot get a signal when using Orange with this rom, anyone got any experience with that ?
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Well, I'm not on Orange, so I wouldn't know, but they both work for me.
I don't easily envision provider-related differences in signal reception between PDA ROM versions, this would be more of a thing that would depend on RSU (Radio Stack) version in my mind.
As for upgrading from .05 to .11 (or 10 to 16), I would say the differences are pretty minimal, I still use 4.00.05 on the phone I actually use, and I see no real difference with the 4.00.11 on my experiment-phone.
@Peter Poelman
Have you experienced any of the SD card erasures yet?
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@Peter Poelman
Have you experienced any of the SD card erasures yet?
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No I haven't. But I must say my large 128 MB Sandisk is not often in there these day, I usually have an 8MB with the write-protect on in there because I often need to re-install something we're working on, and I don't want the automatic delete of the CAB files.
Rom update to 2003
:idea: :?: Would you advise to upgrade from the developers rom to a kitcken cooked rom 2003? If so, version wm2003 .05 or .11 (I live in The Netherlands)
I tried it once but then my XDA, when turned off, did not react anymore to my on-switch-button, also at one time the divice told me that I had insufficient memory on my SD card, which had in fact still 180MB' left, saying it was locked. Eventually found the rom kitchen for the 17.03 version. And was lucky to be able to downgrade it again..Had to reinstall everything and had to format my SD card. What a bummer....
I reackon it was due to software faulty installation???
When using the wm .05 on your device, did you encounter such an event?
I miss the 2003 dual function of my speaker-button and the extra features on the mailer (listing contacts on tapping just a few letters) and the calender extension on the today sceen....
When backing up, installing the ROM wm2003, pending your advice, and recover.... should everything work as it will now?
Awaiting your responce...
Greetings
ok, i have installed the special edition rom for my xda1 and its a definate improvement over the original rom..
but i noticed that the window mobile 2003 upgrade is available from o2 and wondered whether it was significantly better than the special edition?
of course, if there was a xda-developers special edition rom based on wm2003 that would be the best solution... :?
Nas
There are many WM 2003 ROMs and most of them works quite fine ... try the kitchen at www.yorch.net or http://lumpistefan.dyndns.org/
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but i noticed that the window mobile 2003 upgrade is available from o2 and wondered whether it was significantly better than the special edition?
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Where is the WM2003 upgrade from O2??????
Give me alink to download please...
Stefan
I didnt know there was one, anybody else seen it?
nope i cant see it.
my bad
soz, not from o2, just the ones from other providers that are floating about.
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soz, not from o2, just the ones from other providers that are floating about.
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Just do it, upgrade it! I upgraded my Siemens SX56 with AT&T to 2003 and than cooked the rom from Yorch to unlock. By the way, it is a very good rom, thanks Yorch.
I did it with SD cards one of my XDA's, it worked perfect and quick: saved 2003 rom on one card, cooked Yorche's on another. The saving and installation was done through the bootloader as discribed in the proceedures in frequently asked questions section. The extracting and saving of Yorche's rom was done through OSImageTool in XDAtools into an SD card inserted in a USB card reader/writer (Inland 9 in 1 card Reader/Writer, $10 at Micro Center). The battery was fully charged on my SX56 and the flashing of rom's back and forth was done without the XDA being pluged to power unit. I tested the unlocking with a T-Mobile card, it recognised it, I made some phone calls with no problems, kept Yorch cooked rom for two days to get to know it and then flashed it back with my SD saved 2003 rom in my friends apartment just to show off how easy it is to flash the rom. it worked very well (it took about 5 minutes).
The 2nd SX56 was done all through ActiveSync with the XDA and card reader/writer pluged in and all synchronised (allscreen savers, power savers etc on PC and XDA OFF and battery charged). This XDA still had the original 2002 rom. The unlocking went very smooth. I did a full back up of the rom with ActiveSync. Since the cooked rom is PW10A1 and mine was PW10B1 I needed to get back my original rom to the XDA. The restore didn't work because it is a different partnership. So I flashed it back with my SD saved 2003 rom in a card reader/writer and OSImadeTool through ActiveSync. Everything was fine all the way to hard reset. I waited a minuteor so and did a hard reset and nothing happened, did it couple of times, nothing. It would not restart. I pressed the power botton and it went to bootloader mode. I did soft reset and the unit goes blank, dead. So I inserted the SD card with my 2003 rom into the XDA's memory slot and did the the bootloader mode, it took it, I flashed it. And now I have my 2nd SX56 with 2003 rom and the old radio stack ulocked working like a champ. I tasted with T-Mobile card and it works instantly, no configurations needed. Now I have to do a complete upgrade.
After all I like the new 2003 better but with some of the programs from Yorch Kitchen rom, which I installed and they work fine.
You, ladies and gentlemen, at XDA-Developers are the greatest thing that happened to the mobile devices community. I honor you and thank you. And Peter Poelman, you are the wizard, thank you.
John
can you guys show me how to cook to ROM or and link to download the file upgrade from wm2003 to 2003. Thank a lot . I'm using O2 XDA 2002
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can you guys show me how to cook to ROM or and link to download the file upgrade from wm2003 to 2003. Thank a lot . I'm using O2 XDA 2002
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Look here for the answers:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/FAQ
and here to cook the rom:
www.yorch.net
check what you want or don't want and click Build ROM now, after it is done click Download. Before you build and download choose which file you want, exe or nb1. What ever you do backup your original rom preferably and safer to an SD card either through OSImageTools in XDATools and ActiveSync or the mode and the SD card pluged into your XDA
bootloader, and read the forum in details...
The new Mobile 2003 you can get at any of the provider or manufacturer of XDA's: www.T-Mobile.com, www.ATTwireless.com, www.My-Siemens.com, Microsoft has a list of manufacturers that have upgrades - www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/resources/
Make sure you use the right one for PW10A1 or PW10B1 what ever your device Model No. is...
Good luck, John
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The new Mobile 2003 you can get at any of the provider or manufacturer of XDA's: www.T-Mobile.com, www.ATTwireless.com, www.My-Siemens.com, Microsoft has a list of manufacturers that have upgrades - www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/resources/
Make sure you use the right one for PW10A1 or PW10B1 what ever your device Model No. is...
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John (and any others out there),
I hope that I'm not asking something here that is covered in some faq on this board and I think I've read them all, but...
I see mention of a lot of versions. 4.00.21, 4.00.01, A30.05, A30.09 etc...
Is there someone that can tell us new guys a little more about these? IE, what is it exactly, 2003, 2002, beta, final, alpha?
I recently bought a Wallaby, and want very much to use the MS Voice Command. Therefore, I have a definate need for a 2003 rom. I have read and reread the forums here and have a good handle on how to flash my rom, but I'm so confused as to what the best (read most reliable) rom to install, as well what radio version would work with the given rom choice. I'm not necessarily asking for a recommendation, but perhaps a nudge in the write direction.
Sorry to dump on you in particular, nothing personal either mind you! It's just that I'd love to read a FAQ for the different versions and what might be expected from them I guess. (I hope like heck I'm making sense here!)
Thanks!
Larry
Hello,
Actually, the only difference between ROM versions is bug fixing with newer versions, but the only significant factor is whether it's PPC 2002 or WM 2003 ROM.
For upgrading, I may recommend TMO 4.01.00 (my personal preference) or A30.09 (with a minor sound issue). If you need to unlock your device you must start with PPC2002 3.17 ROM first then select any WM2003 later.
There is no connection between the ROM and RSU. However, the RSU is the most sensitive part in the XDA. If you have a functioning RSU ... do NOT touch it!!
Last, get a SD card and take a backup ... it's safer and you can use the SD to upgrade as well.
Good luck ...
This is to Larry,
All these replies take you through the right directions. I have two Siemens SX56 devices with AT&T Wireless, both PW10B1, Pocket PC2002 (Ver. 3.0.12039), ROM Ver. A.20.17 ENG, RADIO Ver. A.20.10, 32MB Rom.
1st one I upgraded the day AT&T and Siemens released the Mobile 2003 free upgrade. As much as people complained, cursed and were distroying there SX56 devices ( what I read on AT&T forums) I never had any problems, and as a matter of fact the more I used the device the better it became. I played with it for about two weeks and then I decided to unlock it. So I placed my SD card into the SX56, started the bootloader, downloaded the original 2003 Rom image, soft reset the device. I cooked the Special Edition Rom based on 3.17.03 O2 ROM in Yorch Kitchen, I built the nb1 file, I downloaded, extracted with WinZip, put it on another SD card, put the card in my SX56 device, started the bootloader, flashed it, did a hard reset. It didn't ask me if I wanted to unlock it but the XDAunlock program was there, I taped it, it asked me if I want to unlock, I did. I checked it with a T-Mobile sim card, made a phone call with no problem (I tested with the same card before and after, before asked me for the pin number and after it logged in to T-Mobile network). I used it with the Special Edition Rom for about a week to see which programs I liked and wanted to install on my device after I flash back to saved Mobile 2003 Rom. I flashed it back with the 2003 Rom image. I was on the road, away from power supply, my pc, usb ports etc. Just the unit with its battery charged up, the SD card and the bootloader. It took 5 minutes.
My 2nd SX56 device I did before the 2003 upgrade, the original 2002 still there, with ActiveSync, OSImageTool in XDATools, SD cards, card reader/writer and nb1 file. This time I overlooked the saving of the original 2002 Rom and it went directly into the flashing with the Special Edition Rom cooked in Yorch Kitchen. I unlocked it, tested with T-Mobile sim card and flashed it back with the the Mobile 2003 Rom image saved from my 1st SX56 device. It didn't want to wake up after the hard reset. It kept going to the bootloader mode. So I inserted the SD card into the SX56, started the bootloader , flashed it back again with Mobile 2003 Rom, did a hard reset. It worked. Now I have my 2nd SX56 with new mobile 2003 Rom but old, the original Radio Stack from Pocket PC 2002. It works fine. The working is like the Upgraded 2003 device. Maybe with the older radio Stack is more stable on the signal, and I don't know for sure because I did not tested, only what I read and the people having problems. My preference is a total upgrade, the Rom and the Radio Stack, I noticed that the audio quality is better with the total upgrade, specialy when on the speaker phone during a phone call.
What ever you do save the settings and the Rom images and you do the right PW10A1 or PW10B1 (the Special Edition Rom is PW10A1). Make sure all the screen savers, power savers, sleep modes etc. are turned off on both the PC and the XDA device.
Good luck, John
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What ever you do save the settings and the Rom images and you do the right PW10A1 or PW10B1 (the Special Edition Rom is PW10A1). Make sure all the screen savers, power savers, sleep modes etc. are turned off on both the PC and the XDA device.
Good luck, John
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Thanks, guys!
I kind of knew that the differences were a matter of bug fixes, what I wasn't sure of is which is 2003 or 2002. I'm going to keep reading here of course. This is a fantastic site to be sure!
So, bottom line is I guess I'm just going to pick a couple of them and flash them and play with them so which works the best.
Many thanks again guys! Larry
Larry,
Yes, exactly. I forgot to say that my new rom is an AT&T- Siemens: ROM Ver. A.30.09 ENG, Radio Stack A.33.02. The previous Rom version had a band switch (900 for Europe or 1900 for Americas) in the Settings and under Phone but now with the new it has an auto configuration which I like better. I can always search the network manually. By accident I found that if you set it to manual and don't have a network specified or any signal strength showing as long as the phone is turned ON, I can still get on Internet.
Good luck, John
One final ?
Guys
Is there ANY version of the W2003 ROM that comes with the Wmodem (or similar) application ?
I first came to xda-developers when I was trying to use my Qtek as a modem....thereafter we saw the O2 and Qtek PPC (2002) upgrades that brought in the Wmodem utility.
That seems to have disappeared off the priority list for most people these days, though.
Cheers
Sands
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That seems to have disappeared off the priority list for most people these days, though
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IMHO, the new PCs/laptops with either built-in WiFi or WLAN functions or with equivalent PCMCIA cards, or even with SIM module inside, made it out of the wishlist
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sandyind said:
Guys
Is there ANY version of the W2003 ROM that comes with the Wmodem (or similar) application ?
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The German Version 4.00.33 from t-mobile comes with the wmodem application
HTH
Stefan
Stefan,
Is there an English version of Mobile 2003 with wireless modem for PW10B1 XDA?
Thanks, John
Can't receive USA Cingular signal 850mhz- Help Anyone?
I've posted on some other forums but no-one seems to have an answer. Can an unlocked AT&T SX56 be adjusted to work on the Cingular 850mhz system?
Help!!
Doc
i have just put my sim card in but the OS is
ROM version 3.14.17 ENG
ROM date 10/11/02
Radio verison 4.16
Protocol Version 32554
are there any upgrades or programs i should add or is it fine as it is?
any suggestions would be greatly appreciated :wink:
I would suggest leaving the radio stack alone if it works ok. You can backup your current rom to sd card then go cook a rom with lots of extra features and software in the unused rom space at one of the kitchens.
Hi ... congratulations first
Your ROM is PPC2002, so you may consider upgrading to WM2003 (it's not essential tho :wink: ).
In all cases, if your Radio is working fine (the phone part), just do NOT touch it!!
Take enough time to read in this forum before any steps or questions ... Good luck
O2 XDA and WM2003
I just saw posts on this thread, is it possible (safe?) to put WM2003 on an O2 XDA. What ROM upgrade should be used? I ask because I got impression that 2003 upgrade was vendor sensitive and you had to use (if they did one) your vendors upgrade. (i.e. Siemens, etc). Thanks for help, maybe I get to update after all !!
Alan
Hi!
I have the XDA II (Qtek2020) and it used to work fine... But for some reason now I can't enter my contacts and my calender. And if I'm so lucky to enter, it is all ****ed up and I can't read half of it. The buttons, text and so on is simply gone!
I was sure that a hard reset would do the trick, but that did not work Now I dont know what do do. My calender and contacts is what I'm using most on my PDA. And further more my icons are missing when I e.g. go to "System" or any other menu. Does anyone know what I can do? My XDAII is totally useless...
As far as I see it my only option is to try to install a new ROM.
I'm currently using ROM version 1.03.00 USA and Radio version 1.05.12A - VM2003
But I am a totally newbie in this upgrading thing... I know that I could (and I will) read a lot in this forum on updating it, but I know that it will confuse me too, cause there is a lot of opinions and a lot of threats...
I would like if someone would simply say:
* "This" is the best ROM you can install. There are no bugs and it runs perfectly! (ofcourse I want the BEST rom with the best radio too - I want all the best :wink: )
* This is how you upgrade - simply and easy described.
I need to have installed a ROM that allow me to use TT5 and does not freeze... Also have to work with bluetooth support...
How about the radio part? Is that included in the ROM or do I have to install that seperately?
How about updating to WM2005? Would that be a good idea or are there still too many bugs? I need to sync with my desktop. I've heard that WM2005 is having trouble doing that? And how about programs working on WM2005?
The XDAII is unlocked.
Thanks in advance!!!!
And thank to you people for reading this post and replying seriously.
I appriciate it! I really need your help
in the ftp there is a 1.75 rom which i think have radio stack 1.18
personaly i'm still using the norwegien 1.72 with 1.14
never heard about a problem such as yours
unless you restore your backup i dont really see how these issues could
survive a hardreset
the radio stack is included in the rom upgrade¨
about upgrading here is a guide
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HimalayaRomkitchen
The only back up I'm restoring is my contacts and my calender from Outlook on my desktop...
ROM 1.75 ? Is that VM2003SE or WM2005? I assume that it is WM2005 when using the radio stack 1.18???
"The Norwegien 1.72 with 1.14"? Is that WM2005? Working fine? No probs?
How do I access the FTP? Excuse this newbie... :roll:
no 1.75 is not 2005 it's 2003 (not SE)
ftp
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_FTP_Site
2005 dont come with a radio stack of it's own so if one upgrade to it one get what ever radiostack one already had
1.72 is also 2003 (not SE)
my reasons for not getting later editions is
the 2003SE in english are manualy translated from chinese so it's not official and some people report issues with the transscriber and dictionary i believe
the 2005 i suspect dont use the ATI chip which mean that it's GUI is slower then earlier roms some guy did some benchs which showed that it was much slower with 2005 then with 2003 when it came to graphics
imho then 2005 is reported a bit slugish speedwise
and it dont really offer something which i need so i havent taken the ride myself
my 1.72 is working just fine
If I upgrade to WM2003SE or WM2005, can I then easily downgrade if I'm not satisfied?