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Vodafone nightmare ends in tears

I've had a vodafone nightmare.
I called to get a pac code last week in order to migrate from vodafone to O2 to get an Exec. I was literally in the middle of ordering an Exec when Vodafone called me back and said, "We know you're leaving because you can't get an HTC Universal from us, well we've found one for you, we call it the Qtek 1620."
Erm, I said, that's not a Universal, it's a Blue Angel. Queue a long debate on the phone with them, the guy assures me it's definitely a Universal and even describes the rotating screen. I say fine, but please record my concerns...
Then followed days of broken promises regarding delivery... mistake after mistake, somehow they sent it to Newbury instead of Sheffield (easy mistake to make, of course!) and ultimately it arrived this morning... and guess what I received: A Vodafone VPA 1620, aka a Blue Angel. Grrr.
More long converstations resulted in, 'sorry but there's nothing we can do.'
So now I'm waiting for news on my order with O2 and deciding whether to return the 1620 or ebay it and maintain the minimum payments on the contract - I'd only be about £30 up in the long run but the cash in hand would be nice for Christmas.
And pity my poor work colleagues who've had to put up with my moaning about all this for the last week!
Matt S.

I'd return it - claim compo for being blatantly lied to and demand your release code and if anyone refuses you, escalate to the highest possible.

Returning my VPA 1620 to vodafone. They've given me some credit on my account (which is fine since my wife still has a vodafone handset on the same account) and made the expected copious apologies.
Ordered an xda exec from Mobilefun.co.uk which went through smoothly except for a statement at about 2pm 'yes it's in stock, in fact yours is being prepared for dispatch right now' to, at 4pm, "sorry we're out of stock - we should get some more in on Friday".
I'm beginning to think somebody upstairs doesn't want me to get a Universal!

This just isn't meant to be. Mobilefun now say they won't be getting any on Friday as O2 can't supply them, and they can't give any update on when they'll be able to. What a mess!

o2 stores have them in stock - either that or try onestopphoneshop

Probably because every man and his dog are buying them on cheap contract then ebaying them for a profit...
Not that its not a good idea, but a bit greedy and upsets the poorer people that want the phone and contract but dont have oooodles of money.

In Europe during the first 6 workdays after signing and 'activating the service of a contract' it can be cancelled without any reprecussions. During the first 2 weeks after something was 'bought' it can be returned to the seller to get a refund when a product doesn't do what you expect from it. Perhaps something to think of. This is settled by law and even if companies say it is impossible they never are above the law.
grtzzzz roel..

I'm not really sure whats going on with the o2 EXEC.
They are giving them away .. by the thousand weight.
I'm still waiting for one now, its on 'back order' and has been for some two weeks. They've even offered me an XDA IIi for free on o2 200!
I suspect they will either not have anymore of these coming in or something will change, probably the price or locking the sim/software to deter reselling.
Just hoping I get one now for the pre-agreed price and within my lifetime.
*sniff

onestopphoneshop don't have any. O2 say they do, but only at £150 :-(

hi
try this , a dedicated thread about how to get exec cheap
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=32105

Thanks but I am getting it cheap ..
£149 + £15 a month o2 400
I just dont seem to be getting the f*** handset.
Still waiting after two weeks!

Where'd you get your TyTN

Hi, I really kind of hate askin questions like this, cause so many opinions can vary, but I am trying to get a few ideas on reputable dealers, since I have never dealt with any of them before, I was planning on getting one through Smart-Mobile-Gadgets, they were just mentioned in a few reviews/posts I read in the beginning and seems like a good dealer, but I see so many other places offering TyTN's now.
If you have bought a TyTN and recieved a US charger without the UK adapter, or have had to send your unit back for warranty and recieved good customer service or know of places with good warranty contracts/extended service, or just know of a very reputable dealer, any info you might share would be greatly appreciated.
Also if you happen to know any dealers that have been shipping the 630 serial models.
Thanks

I used phonesource-usa via eBay w/o any issues at all. When Christian replaced my original TyTN, the new one came through with an HT630 serial number. He offered a 3 day return policy on eBay. I'd also check his website to see if it's the same there or not.

I have heard good things about phonesource, but MMB (Mad Monkey Boys Gadgets) I have dealt with personally and he is excellant. Recieved a USA Charger with mine and the 630+ Ser #. excellant communicaitons as well.

I went through quite an exercise on my quest for a TyTN:
1. I went to Smart-Mobile-Gadgets, and pre-ordered an early shipment from him in late July for an August ship date. Unfortunately, he ended up getting a bad shipment (all MTeORs and no TyTNs), but I'm happy to say he promptly refunded my money. (Overall experience: no phone but still an "A")
2. I went to PhonesourceUSA. I bought a TyTN (628-series), which he promptly shipped to me overnight (I paid extra for that). (Overall grade: "A+")
3a. After about a week with the TyTN, I experienced the stupid stylus silo problem. I arranged to have the device replaced as a DOA. In support of this, I shipped the device out for Saturday delivery, with the expectation that a replacement would be shipped back to me the following Monday. I would have preferred that he ship the replacement before he received the bad unit, but I could live with this arrangement. (Interim experience: "B+")
3b. Well, it didn't ship on Monday... and it wasn't until Tuesday when I called to complain that he did ship a device... but he shipped it 7-day Ground! Unfortunately for me, this happened around the Labor Day holiday, and a full 10 days passed without my replacement TyTN. Suffice it to say I was IRATE... especially after having paid the premium for overnight the first time around and specifically requesting that he send it as quickly as possible (I needed my phone back). Bottom line, I did get my new device earlier this week (630-series), and it seems to be working fine, but the shipping fiasco turned what had been a very good sales experience into a very disappointing one and soured my opinion of this vendor. (Overall grade: "C-")
So the moral of the story: go with the vendor that's going to do right by you on the support front. Given the opportunity to do this all over again, I think I would have bought from MadMonkeyBoy. Although his website is the toughest to use, he's got the scale and the track record to back up what he sells.
Of course this is just my personal experience/opinion and YMMV....

madmonkeyboy all the way.
Bought my HTC Prophet from him....
And now my HTC TyTN.
I keep telling myself not to get the Trinity when she comes out but I'll most likely get that from David as well.

My TyTn
I bought my TyTn at my local dealer !
Fox-Computer in Paris http://www.fox-direct.com
With the GPSlim 240 Holux.

MMD too

www.itmagasinet.dk
I wouldn't recommend for anyone else though; they don't live up to their responsibilities concerning RMA.
Luckily I'm getting more and more happy with my device, so I'm not going to return it anyway ;-)
/Martin

MadMonkey Boys if you are in the states. Not a big bells & whistle web site, but offers fast, reliable service, and stands behind his sales.

john1027 said:
MadMonkey Boys if you are in the states. Not a big bells & whistle web site, but offers fast, reliable service, and stands behind his sales.
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I'd rather David spend his time on Customer Service and fast shipping than a website.

Brought mine from mobileshop.com - placed the order about 2PM, arrived 9AM the next day! Didn't even pay a dime for the device or shipping. £35/18months. Magic.

HTC Repair center in the UK *HELP*

Hello
I shipped my TYTN to the UK for repair , two monthes ago!!
Those basterds dont even answer phones (all our lines are busy) or emails (no replay)!!
Anybody knows whats going on over there? Any suggestions ?
I am from Israel.
HELP!

How did you ship the phone? I'd hope you used DHL or some other courier which can track the shipment and provide proof of delivery. I'd also hope you bought insurance when it was shipped.
If you haven't had confirmation from HTC that they have the phone then maybe it hasn't arrived yet (stuck in customs?)
If the phone hasn't arrived you need to get on to the courier and try to claim from them or the insurers.
If it has arrived at HTC (provable via a couriers documentation) then write to HTC (recorded delivery), addressed to the Managing Director, and tell him you think that 2 months is an unreasonable time to wait - particularly without any answers, you want the phone repaired and returned and you expect a response within 7 days of him receiving the answer. Tell him that if you do not receive a response within 7 days you will consider that the phone is stolen and you will acy accordingly.
I have no idea what 'accordingly' means in this case because it'll cost you more than the price of the phone to take much further action.
As for HTC UK - I sent my phone to them (via Vodafone) earlier in the year. 3 weeks later (and many lies) they told me it would be at least another 6 weeks for the required parts to arrive. They are probably one of the worst companies it's been my displeasure to deal with.
Good Luck.

I didnt use DHL but rather USPS , as they are cheaper , insurance is 1000$ and i`ve just found out it is unclaimed , this might be the "stuck in customs" situation you were talking about ? I called USPS , they said someone has to claim it and nobody it!!
How do I unstuck it ? (sounds like a bricked TYTN ... brick type 4 ?)
Thanks..

SuperTrader.co.uk - For anyone thinking about using them!

Hi
SupereTrader.co.uk are the only mail order outfit in the UK that I know of that claim to have stock of the Experia. Expansys & Clove have sold out.
I phoned supertrader on Friday to ensure that they had stock - was informed that they had plenty; I agreed with the bloke that if I bought there and then, and paid their £15.99 Saturday delivery charge (Royal Mail Special Delivery), they would ship it Friday for delivery today.
Anyway, they never bothered to post it. My suspicion is that they never did actually have the device in stock. They have taken the money from my account (including the £15.99) Saturday delivery charge.
I've emailed them to cancel the order - as far as I am concerned they failed to uphold their side of the bargain.
So... for others thinking about buying an Experia, avoid this crowd - its unlikely that they actually have stock.
I checked out their ratings on the price comparison sites - and they appeared to be reasonable... not from my experience. If they could not ship it for Saturday delivery, they should have told me, and I would not have bothered ordering.
Nigel

Let me tell you one thing superetrader is the best and I got my xperia 2 weeks ago from them and they delivered all the time mine was next day delivery and they delivered I always bought all my fones from them, and they never ever let me down it is the best supplier in the uk or world wise, be patient you cancelled to soon they have the black ones in stock, they just emailed saying they had the black ones but i am happy with my silver one from them,

I got mine from them
very efficent and helpful
next day delivery £507.99 not bad at all
highly recommended

I bought an Eten X500 from them many months ago , paid for Saturday delivery on Friday afternoon and had to take Monday morning off work cause they posted normal next working day service, never replied to my emails and i never got the promised call back from my phone calls

Hi
I suspect my story is the same as csw43's. Maybe it will arrive today, then I just have to get the excess £8 out of them for not sending it Saturday delivery as agreed, and wait until next weekend before I can get to the PO and collect it. They wont get my cancelation request until this morning so if they already posted it, I guess I will (eventually) recieve it.
We shall see.
Nigel

Does the website open?
Its getting redirected to a parked domain.

No such web site as supertrader.co.uk
The company is actually superetrader.co.uk

They mention to have +10 pcs of the xperia. Is this accurate?

Aye, spelt the name wrong - unfortunately, I cant change the title, have corrected the initial post. Phoned them this morning - they still claim to have stock.
Nigel

veletron said:
Aye, spelt the name wrong - unfortunately, I cant change the title, have corrected the initial post. Phoned them this morning - they still claim to have stock.
Nigel
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Did you receive it?

Waiting and Waiting from Expansys!!!

I'm a little frustrated with waiting on expansys to re-stock. I ordered my device monday Nov 10th. After verifying the credit card mess they updated my status to "waiting to for re-stock". But whats crazy is that Expansys-usa.com says that they have some in stock. When i called and inquired about it, they said that its at thier central location and not thier usa location. Their just waiting for their next shipment.
I just want to order the device and it be on its way.
Sorry for venting, I just dont know where to order at and it actually gets shipped without any delays. I have tried searching via google and the websites dont look to promising. I know of Clove Technologies....but i thought that might be the same situation.

Kenjari said:
I'm a little frustrated with waiting on expansys to re-stock. I ordered my device monday Nov 10th. After verifying the credit card mess they updated my status to "waiting to for re-stock". But whats crazy is that Expansys-usa.com says that they have some in stock. When i called and inquired about it, they said that its at thier central location and not thier usa location. Their just waiting for their next shipment.
I just want to order the device and it be on its way.
Sorry for venting, I just dont know where to order at and it actually gets shipped without any delays. I have tried searching via google and the websites dont look to promising. I know of Clove Technologies....but i thought that might be the same situation.
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I just order today and now Expansys says that only have a new stock at 6 of December...

I ordered mine from Expansys HK, and they luckily had one piece in stock remaining, and i got it today, at my friends place in HK! (still gotta wait for it to come to my country! argh!)
I saw that Expansys UK has good stock, i mean, couple of days back, they had around 59 in stock, and were ready to ship it to HK if i wanted. (Coz expansys-hk had the last piece, so didnt order from expansys-uk)
i suggest call them up (UK) and find out of the stock position, dont go on what they say on the site!
Expansys US showed 1-5 in stock, and when i called, they told me they are out of stock! buggers!

Insane Devil said:
I ordered mine from Expansys HK, and they luckily had one piece in stock remaining, and i got it today, at my friends place in HK! (still gotta wait for it to come to my country! argh!)
I saw that Expansys UK has good stock, i mean, couple of days back, they had around 59 in stock, and were ready to ship it to HK if i wanted. (Coz expansys-hk had the last piece, so didnt order from expansys-uk)
i suggest call them up (UK) and find out of the stock position, dont go on what they say on the site!
Expansys US showed 1-5 in stock, and when i called, they told me they are out of stock! buggers!
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Dear Friend,
How much you got it from expansys? And also how much did the indian customs charging you? i am all set to buy from Clove, is it a good decesion?

Expansys are shady, they told me when I ordered from them everything was in stock and would be dispatched same day (twice). However they didn't have stock, also was real nice to inform me as well. Cancelled my entire order with them (which was a few things inc an HD) and went elsewhere. Still waiting for them to put the money back in my bank account too....
Also in the UK they are actually a bit more expensive than other sites.

askadc said:
Dear Friend,
How much you got it from expansys? And also how much did the indian customs charging you? i am all set to buy from Clove, is it a good decesion?
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Hey there,
Dont even think of importing it via courier, else the Indian customs will levy a heavy duty on it, and even stall it for a couple of months!
I got it delivered to my friend's place in Hong Kong itself, and he will be bringing it along with him when he comes here in a week or 2.
Bought it for HK$6205 - VALUE PACK! (Around INR Rs.41,000/-)
Contains:
1x HTC Touch HD
1x HTC Original Car Charger
1x HTC Original CASE for Touch HD
1x HTC BT M200 Bluetooth Headset (i exchanged this with a JABRA one)

Possible solution
Well now I get. So here is my solution. I still have my order with Expansys. They do not have any in stock. I just called them an hour ago. They said they wont have any til late November.
So I ordered from Clove Technologies. Does anyone know if they have it in stock? I'm going to cancel my order with Expansys as soon as I know Clove have shipped it. Hopefully they have it in. Another user here informed me on how well they are with orders. Hopefully I can here something from them today.
Last, I know there will be some customs form I have to fill out....any idea on the added delay with that?

www.devicewire.co.uk have it in stock and they cost only £514 inc VAT. Hurry, they are flying of the shelves quick! I also have a £10 expansys voucher for the first person to ask!

"Over 30 In Stock" Yet Truly Out Of Stock
lombardo8 said:
www.devicewire.co.uk have it in stock and they cost only £514 inc VAT. Hurry, they are flying of the shelves quick! I also have a £10 expansys voucher for the first person to ask!
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Just got off the phone from Expansys UK. They have got a back-order of over 300 to fulfill. Just to let you know if you are thinking of ordering. This is with the website saying "OVER 30 IN STOCK. IF YOU ORDER TODAY YOU WILL GET IT TOMORROW".
<rant>
It seems a tricky way of representing actual stock to the innocent buyer. Again that teaches us to CALL FIRST & confirm. Asking the key questions and not just go by what you read on the site. I'm sure they've got it all covered on small-print somewhere. You can cancel at any time though, they did say that. </rant>

Expansys lying on delivery date
As most of you have ordered my HTC HD from expansys Hong Kong at the time they were saying it should be delivered with 6 days. Since them the delivery date has been postponed and postponed. Therefore I have cancelled my order because the device will be available in any Hong Kong shops at the time of their delivery.
I am lucky enough to have my office close to their Hong Kong office. Therefore I cannot resist to go there to explain what I thing about their lies.

I ordered one from Clove and they dispatched the second day..
I'm from China and the phone's already arrived at Hong Kong today.
I should get it tomorrow

Just to throw my 2 pence in about Clove Technologies - I ordered my HTC Touch HD from them last Saturday, and the phone arrived on Wednesday. It would have arrived on Tuesday, but they had to do an extra security check to ensure I was the cardholder (which I respect quite a lot). So all in all, a very positive experience with them.

It's a shame that the price from Clove is £539.33 including VAT though....

maddie said:
I ordered one from Clove and they dispatched the second day..
I'm from China and the phone's already arrived at Hong Kong today.
I should get it tomorrow
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I ordered from clove too. very fast service. btw, i have ordered mind in expansys and they keep delay the order, the worst part was that when i ordered it showed in stock and once i placed the ordre they told me it will be delay... end up cancel and order from clove.

i ordered mine from Clove.. i live in California, USA. i payed for the extra 5GB for shipping so it shipped FedEX..i ordered on.. Wed? i was suppose to get it on Friday morning but stupid fedex took to long and the phone missed the flight. so i have to wait the weekend. getting it tomorrow or else im going to yell at them.. the total price was about 482GB but thats not inc VAT since im from the USA.. it was about 720USD + 20credit card fee for being international (LAME).. but yea.. it was good transaction. EDIT sry but the price has gone up on clove since i bought it.. >.> like 15GB i think it was.. 20UDS?
BTW... gget ready to send a statement of some sort to them to verify your addres.. + fill out a form to FedEx or whoever is shipping it so they know its legal to bring it here..
ALL YOU NEED:
date:
quantity of item: 1
device name/type: BLAC100
trade name: HTC Touch HD
FCC ID: NM8BKNV
Description: PDA Phone
Manufacturer's name and adress:
HTC Corporation
No. 23 Xinghua Rd.,
Taoyuan, Taiwan, ROC
Consignee's Name: (THATS YOU!!!) name and adress
Importers name and address: the person you bought it from and their address
Print your name..
Signature
Date
Part 2:
"X" on number 7 (most likely) for personal use item.
would like to share it cuz no one really mentioned it in the forum and i was surprised but it went okay..
now to hope the phone is okay..
anything else? hahahah
ill probably be posting pics and everything.. even of the accessories .. cuz im new to HTC and i didn't find good pics..only of the phone.. i want more..
im new to WM too...
and nothing big on the subject..
WM been out forever but there are NOOBIES out there..
like me!
thanks for reading... also.. just to let you know.. apparently the gloss paint chips.. but iono? im going to use the phone and see if its good but leave it in the box until invisibleSHIELD comes out with a cover... they said 1-2weeks.. i need to talk to them again.. they were suppose tto get a phone from someone but not confirmed ..

i ordered from Clove as well with 2-day FedEx international shipping. all i had to supply FedEx was the FCCID to get it through customs. happy as can be with my device!