Two questions regarding the screen:
I have to say I find the XDA II screen pretty 'pixelated'... it's almost as if I would be able to count the hprizontal and vertical pixels (yes, I have ClearType turned on). Especially in MS Reader this is quite annoying... Is this as bad for you guys as well?
Some TOSHIBA PPCs support Landscape mode through a registry hack. Is there such a way for the XDA II as well?
farnold said:
I have to say I find the XDA II screen pretty 'pixelated'... it's almost as if I would be able to count the hprizontal and vertical pixels (yes, I have ClearType turned on). Especially in MS Reader this is quite annoying... Is this as bad for you guys as well?
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Compared to what? It's still 240x320, like the XDA before it. Looking at them both and comparing, I can sort of see what you mean though: the XDAII screen is so much brighter that you can see the edges of the pixels better than on the (rather dim) XDA. This added brightness makes everything easier to see though, and I consider it to be one of the biggest blessings of the XDAII.
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Is the XDA II backlight front lit (like the XDA) or is it back-lit (like the P900)?
It's a Transflective 65K colours screen, and I believe it is even better then P900.
Not the best I've seen on a PDA, but I am sure it is REALLY good enough.
[Not the best I've seen on a PDA, but I am sure it is REALLY good enough.[/quote]
I have to dissagree with you here. XDA2 screen is the best I've seen on any PDA - ipaq 1910, 1940, 1935, 2210, 5450 and all PalmOne devices.
It has the best contrast ratio, very clear and bright even at minimal brightness settings. It suffers on direct sunlight, that's true. But again, all transflective screen do.
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[Not the best I've seen on a PDA, but I am sure it is REALLY good enough.
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I have to dissagree with you here. XDA2 screen is the best I've seen on any PDA - ipaq 1910, 1940, 1935, 2210, 5450 and all PalmOne devices.
It has the best contrast ratio, very clear and bright even at minimal brightness settings. It suffers on direct sunlight, that's true. But again, all transflective screen do.[/quote]
I thought that someone will not agree if I say "XDA2 screen is the best", hahahaha. :twisted:
By the way, I think 320x480 screen on Sony CLIE or the 640x480 screen on Sharp's LINUX PDA (C750 / 760?) will better then the one on the XDA2, because the higher resolution give me a better feeling, even if XDA2 screen has better contrast ratio (For the contrast, I believe all of them are the best, It's no need to compare which one is better) .
Anyways, it's very subjective and really depends on particular unit as well. So, I guess we just agree that screen on XDA2 is VERY GOOD.
does the xda 2 have a variable display brightness, or is it just on or off like the xda 1, not that it matters I just wondered
Yes, the XDA II has a varaible display brightness.
that should be a little bit more gentle on the battery then.
Not a technical question, but I am thinking of moving from XDA IIi to Vario II (if it is ever released by t-Mob!) and am a little worried that the screen will be too small to read from comfortably.
Is anyone using their device for this and can you comment on whether you have found this an issue.
Many thanks
Of course, many people read books with TyTN. The screen's pretty good and I see no problem here. If you find the scrren a bit small for reading you can always adjust font size.
Hi,
I got a 2i and a Vario2 side by side with me right now.
Although the Vario2 has a smaller screen, its quality is better than the 2i one. (Quality in terms of viewing angle, contrast, sharpness, etc)
So I don't see a problem with reading books on the Vario2.
I'm a big ebook reader - 30 to 40 books per year. I've been using my ipaq hx4705 with 4 inch VGA screen and I'm spoiled. Since buying my TyTN I've been reading on it and it's ok, not terrific. The smallest font size is pretty fairly readable. You can use a bigger font, but you don't get much on the screen. I'll probably keep using my ipaq for serious reading and just keep filler on my tytn to read during odd downtimes.
Hi all guys!
Anyone has tested the screen visibility under sunshine?
I have an HTC Touch and it's horrible...
Thanks!
It is visible but I won't say it is terrific. If it is not too good, I just need to tilt it a little and the screen will contrast and brighten.
Its horrible sometimes i think my phone is off..
I can barely make out the time in huge numbers
Actually this is another area that impresses me... I tried this out when I first got the phone and it is very readable/seeable... even in full sunlight I can see the screen... much better than my Kaiser/MDA Vario III
Shadowdh said:
Actually this is another area that impresses me... I tried this out when I first got the phone and it is very readable/seeable... even in full sunlight I can see the screen... much better than my Kaiser/MDA Vario III
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Seconded.
Shadowdh said:
Actually this is another area that impresses me... I tried this out when I first got the phone and it is very readable/seeable... even in full sunlight I can see the screen... much better than my Kaiser/MDA Vario III
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What screen settings are you using -- this thread includes responses that range from 0 to 10 and I suspect there are differences in settings. For exampled, have you turned off your screen autodimming feature?
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What screen settings are you using -- this thread includes responses that range from 0 to 10 and I suspect there are differences in settings. For exampled, have you turned off your screen autodimming feature?
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I have left it on the Auto feature... at first I thought my phone had a glitch as the screen kept going dim... but it works really well... I also tried it in full light (by trying to reflect the indoor light to make the screen as obscure as possible, had to be indoors as its raining like a mother here) and even though the screen did become less readable I could still read the book I had in ubook... a plus for me...
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Actually this is another area that impresses me... I tried this out when I first got the phone and it is very readable/seeable... even in full sunlight I can see the screen...
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What he said!
maybe with a nice screen protector you may see something
I have the anti-glare one and I don't expect to see a bright screen in the afternoon
but maybe some screen protectors may help although I doubt it
it is really visible (if I'm not putting my sunglasses on), i was really impressed when i first got the phone. just make sure you set the auto dimming on.
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maybe with a nice screen protector you may see something
I have the anti-glare one and I don't expect to see a bright screen in the afternoon
but maybe some screen protectors may help although I doubt it
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I use martin fields screen protector and its great, so maybe that does have something to it...
uh, did you guys set the backlight to auto adjust? I mean at first I knew to save battery life I had to manually adjust the backlight 2nd to the dimmest. but I coudln't see anything while under direct sun. but somehow, on auto adjust, the backlight seem to work under it. I think the device has light sensor.
I notice that text looks a little rough on the Captivate and could use some antialiasing. Text looks smoother on my old iPod touch and that thing has a lower resolution!
Is anyone aware of a way to enable antialiasing in Android, global or otherwise?
dont hold your phone 3in from your face, go out to about 10in, problem solved..
I don see any aliased text, where are you seeing it?
The problem isn't really aliasing, it's the PenTile layout of the pixels.
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dont hold your phone 3in from your face, go out to about 10in, problem solved..
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Nice condescending reply. Maybe you should try getting some glasses.
Can't use Cleartype-style technology on an LED.
That said, I can't see any pixels at normal viewing distance either, text is not quite as sharp as on iPhone4, but every bit as sharp (and with better contrast and more uniform lighting) as the excellent LCD on my Milestone (Droid).
It's the pentile matrix; I noticed it right away too, but it doesn't bother me too much. Hopefully someone makes a sort of ClearType for Android app.
It only looks bad when you zoom out on text (really small text). Imo text looks great on this device otherwise.
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i am wondering what Samsung was thinking
when made of this.
Natural mode has washed out colors and normal mode
has over saturated colors .
We need something between.Is that so difficult?
ur thead is a joke
There are no oversaturated colors
All AMOLEDs are like this and I think display is very good.
Natural mode is pretty much perfect imo.
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ur thead is a joke
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foxy4270 said:
i am wondering what Samsung was thinking
when made of this.
Natural mode has washed out colors and normal mode
has over saturated colors .
We need something between.Is that so difficult?
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Agreed. Don't know if it's worth ranting about though.
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Natural mode only looks washed out because you're accustomed to the oversaturation of normal mode.
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Totally disagree, natural looks washed out and very dull. My iPad 3 and Galaxy Nexus is much more vibrant.
To me standard, looks fine. Just a touch too over staturated but I like it, like that.
great joke im laughing
Coming from an WVGA TFT LCD on the HD2, the Natural Mode on the SGS3 seems to highlight the best of both worlds.
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Totally disagree, natural looks washed out and very dull. My iPad 3 and Galaxy Nexus is much more vibrant.
To me standard, looks fine. Just a touch too over staturated but I like it, like that.
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You are correct. Earlier today I was messing around with Screen Adjuster and it was skewing my side-by-side iPad / GS3 tests. I've edit my original post.
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i am wondering what Samsung was thinking
when made of this.
Natural mode has washed out colors and normal mode
has over saturated colors .
We need something between.Is that so difficult?
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You should knew it before you decided to buy GS3.
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Standard mode is over saturated especially in games
and when browsing.
An extra mode between standard and natural would be
ideal for 99% of people.
They should just release all phones with a screen calibration mode after the first boot up.
People fail to realize that humans only see about 10 million colours so that the 16 million available, regardless of screen technology, is all there natural or not. There could be a variety of factors that contribute to AMOLED looking less natural but if I were to hazard a guess.
- people are used to seeing LCD looking colours.
- the LEDS are closer to the screen on AMOLED.
- Complete blacks trick our eyes into seeing colours around the black abyss as being brighter than they really are.
And of course the obvious such as a coloured organic Light source vs a white light source plus colour filter. And also the backlight needed on LCDs.
I think consumers just have to be desensitized to AMOLED displays and it will start to look natural. Or Samsung should do a better job with the natural mode and mimic LCD better. Or they should just give free reign of colour calibration like they do on HDTVs and add a back light. So if you like AMOLED, turn off the backlight. If you don't, leave it on. Barring the texture of the LCD colour filter, an AMOLED display with a backlight would look just like an IPS LCD display.
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Standard mode is over saturated especially in games
and when browsing.
An extra mode between standard and natural would be
ideal for 99% of people.
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I'm sure your phone will be welcomed in the "for sale" section of the xda marketplace, seen as though your not happy with it! This threads a joke....
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I use natural n prefer it. I think its just right. Your eyes set a norm so when u r used to one setting when u change it does look strange
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You know what is a joke? All the US versions don't even have a screen mode option. Oversaturation is nothing new for AMOLEDs but it can be remedied and has been remedied before, simply by providing an option. A lot of people like the contrast and viewing angles of AMOLEDs but don't like the excessive colors. I guess Samsung thinks Americans are all colorblind and took the extra effort to REMOVE the option altogether when they tried so hard to make everything else the same. The international S2 had color adjustments too, but not my T-mobile one. Then there's the terrible audio capture. Always taking two steps forward, one step back.
I quite like having an option to change my screen settings rather than not having an option. Thank you Samsung.
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I agree as well that screen modes could be better "optimised" that sammy would give us something between natural and standard, but different to you i am feeling that was step in right direction, im sure that next phone will have those much better optimised.
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You know what is a joke? All the US versions don't even have a screen mode option. Oversaturation is nothing new for AMOLEDs but it can be remedied and has been remedied before, simply by providing an option. A lot of people like the contrast and viewing angles of AMOLEDs but don't like the excessive colors. I guess Samsung thinks Americans are all colorblind and took the extra effort to REMOVE the option altogether when they tried so hard to make everything else the same. The international S2 had color adjustments too, but not my T-mobile one. Then there's the terrible audio capture. Always taking two steps forward, one step back.
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Due to the chipsets. Samsung used the television engine. The screen modes on my international SGS3 is the same ones as on my TV, producing nearly same effects (TV=LCD, SGS3=AMOLED). Sony uses their Bravia engine in their phones.
Hey guys, you do realise people are entitled to an opinion, right? Stop dismissing the OP blindly.
I happen to agree that the default profiles are not as good as they could be. Simply accepting that AMOLED is oversaturated by nature doesn't mean something can't be done about it in software. So before jumping down someone's throat, perhaps consider that they may have a legitimate concern.