Hello,
does anyone know when the final version of W*M*2*0*0*3 will be released? And when it will be available to us? Was it released by Microsoft,yet?
I hope it will solve problems with memory card erasures and missing "More" tab in Phone Settings...
Thank you.
The "missing more tab" is merely missing because one does not need to change bands on 900/1800 phones: US versions will have this tab, I'm sure.
What I am not so sure about is how much pressure from the customers there is to bring WM2003 to this unit, with the XDA II coming and all.
probaly lots of pressure... but no inclination from the relevent(sp?) parties...
As if they would listen to us anyways? I mean we already know how *helpful* O2 are in the 'after care' department so what chance is there of them bringing out a rom?
From my experience of their compilation and testing of previous roms the development department must be VERY under funded as it is.
I think all 3 of them will be working overtime to prepare 2003 for the XDAII and wont really care about those that have already provided their cash...
one glimmer of hope I think is that the XDAII has the same rom size as the XDA... therefore will it be possible to 'borrow' the rom from that and put it in the XDA ? :twisted: .... or will they take 3 months of their project management to impliment restrictions and locks on the device... (time they could have spent porting it to the XDA)
I'm sure I'll prolly buy one... the pretty colours dazzle me.... but I hear Intel are planning a new Xscale cpu for 2004.... which is meant to be a lot better than this one... so will our brand new xdaII be dead as roadkill by the same time next year?
and I just had a thought.... the current XDAII cpu is an Xscale... and the XDA is a strongarm.... so there goes the 'borrowing' idea :?
yes I type while I think..
yes I dont delete text I decide is wrong before posting
XDA developer Peter Poelman:
I want the "More" tab to setup Cell Broadcast and auto pick-up - those settings were on this tab too.
ALL:
So you think that it'll be hard to get the final release? That defines a question - where is the kitchen rom from? It's a silly question, I know... But if you want to answer, send me an private message.
Thanx
Correction - If you want to give me an answer... :lol:
Sorry for my english...
It would appear that the version we have is OEM
the T-mobile branding I'm not so sure about maybe its a beta internal release inside T-mobile.
Remember though that just because they have it.... doesnt mean we will.
There is even a Apple OSX for Intel machines... Apple has currently no intentions of releasing it but does have 8 developers slowly working away
AOL for linux ? yes there was one..... but apart from the early beta which has since disapeared nobody has heard anything about it since.
Stranger things have happened (or have not as the case seems to be here)
Ok 2 things here. For the person wanting the "More" tab on the phone settings, which ROM version are you using? I am using 4.00.16, and it is in there. Perhaps this is not part of the ROM version, but depends on what radio stack is being used?
Secondly, I wouldn't be too surprised to at least see a T-Mobile release of WM 2003, but I also wouldn't guarantee it. They have released - ok not released - but a couple different betas have become "available" so we know they are working on it. I should say we know they were working on it. No telling now, as no new betas have appeared since June or July.
The person who wanted the "More" Tab was me I use 4.00.11 and don't want to install 4.00.16 until there will be a "clear" version without T-Mobile add-ons. The "More" tab must be part of the ROM because it is a part of system! I have radio stack 4.21. My boyfriend has the same version of radio stack, but PPC2002 and he has the "More" Tab.
About the new versions of those betas - maybe they have it better secured?
wuffi said:
The person who wanted the "More" Tab was me I use 4.00.11 and don't want to install 4.00.16 until there will be a "clear" version without T-Mobile add-ons. The "More" tab must be part of the ROM because it is a part of system! I have radio stack 4.21. My boyfriend has the same version of radio stack, but PPC2002 and he has the "More" Tab.
About the new versions of those betas - maybe they have it better secured?
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if you installed a based ROM, meaning no add-on software or not cook with the kitchen, there will be a more tab on you setting, but if you add some software to the ROM the setting for the more tab will be overiden, anyway you can still setup this thing in the registry HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel... the setting for keylock is there and also for the setting of automatic answer is there, just change the value.
8)
And what about Cell Broadcast...?
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And what about Cell Broadcast...?
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What do you mean, SMS Broadcasting? it is in the HKEY_CURRENT_USERS\Software\Microsoft\SMS\Protocols\Broadcast...
I think you will find what you need here. :roll:
I will try it, thank you
Related
Dear all,
I'm new here, I've had a good look through the forum, but I feel a lot of the information is a little over my head. I was hoping for some advice for my new MiniS out of the box:
Regarding setting up my device, are there any programs I should or shouldn't install? Or anything I should uninstall immediately?
Am I better off with the O2 ROM, or is there another I should flash my device with?
Are there any particularly good pieces of software that you could recommend?
Thank-you very much for your help,
s_h_a_h_i_d
look at htc magician forumpart (topics)
look at htc magician forumpart (topics)
Surely since the XDA Mini S is an HTC Wizard, not a Magician, he'd be better off looking at the Wizard forum?
o2 mini is a magician init
Yes, but the thread title refers to an O2 Mini S.....
He is refering to MiniS mate.
HA HA, Now that the squabbles are over, , I'd like to add my bit.
The best thing anyone can do first off with the MINI S is toss that o2 customised crap right off.
I am assuming you have'nt put too much on it yet
Press the soft reset button. (Under the IR port)
As you let go of that reset button, make sure you are pressing both the comm manager button, AND the voice buttons. Thats the top left side and upper right side buttons.
This is called a hard reset and WILL ERASE EVERYTHING prom the phones memory.
Do the screen calibration and cut/paste bit.
When it say's "Tap the screen to start using your device", be ready to press the soft reset again.
This is because when you tap the screen, a customisation box will appear.
PRESS THE RESET BUTTON, when you see this box.
The phone reboots and hey presto, proper PDA, not o2's idea of one.
Hope this helps.
Just to add to the above, there is a thread on here regarding decent software for the PDA.
Have a look through the thread list and you'll see it.
I would recommend Resco as a decent file manager with some excellent features. Be careful with some of these tools if you are not sure what you are doing.
Other than that, have fun.
Press send to restore factory default, other keys to quit
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So which key is the send button?
EDIT: 4th time lucky, the green one
Horrorwood said:
Press send to restore factory default, other keys to quit
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So which key is the send button?
EDIT: 4th time lucky, the green one
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LOL, oops, sorry forgot about that bit!!! :?
Hi Jerry-S and everyone.
I've just got a T-Mobile MDA Vario, the Wizard version of T-Mobile.
Would you recommend me doing the same hard reset so that I can get rid of T-Mobile settings?
My Device Information shows:
ROM version: 1.6.2.4 WWE
ROM date: 11/15/05
Radio version: 01.12.10
Protocol version: 4.0.13.23
ExtROM version: 1.6.2.105
Can I update to a newer ROM and if yes where can I download it and how can I update ROM, please?
Thanks for your help.
Rgds,
PPB
Hi BUSPBP,
I am a relatively new user myself and won't offer advice on anything I am not sure of.
I have seen ROM updates on here for other networks but as I am on o2 and running my most recent ROM, I can't comment.
Just to be sure you understand though, the updating of a rom that isn't specifically for your unit has many risks. At the end of the day, it's up to you so just put ROM in the search page and have a look at what comes up.
As for removing the Network Provider software, I would assume that the process is the same for them all, as the extra operator features are installed from an extended ROM.
That's to say, the main OS is installed first and then the extra stuff installs afterward.
If you can replace things that you have put on your phone then give it a go, it'll either work or not.
At the end of the day, if you like the extra things and want them back, do another hard reset and let everything install as it wants.
Hope this helps.
Hi Jerry-S,
Thanks for your help. After reading through some threads in this forum I've decided to upgrade my Wizard with the new Qtek ROM. It now works much faster and I don't have any more problem with Wifi connection.
Can you or anybody please advise what does the ExtROM do and if I can exclude it from the device? Any good in doing this?
PPB
If you think of it this way, it's a little easier to understand.
When the device is new or has a hard reset, the following happens.
(If I get this wrong, I'm sure someone will let me know. LOL)
1. The device powers up and a section called the Bootloader starts.
2. As the operating system is not there, it installs it from a ROM.
3. The operating system then runs and you do the stylus calibration
and the date / time settings
4. That is the PDA set up.
5. After that, another ROM is installed, (If you let it), which contains all
the customised software for your particular phone company supplier.
All it means is that the basic Windows OS is running at the same time as the custom software and the Windows functions are accessed by the company customisations that you are presented with.
Because of this, the processor in the PDA is working in effect, twice as hard and it is slower.
As far as I am aware, there is nothing in this custom layer that can't be done directly in the Windows layer.
I would like to upgrade my ROM also as the o2 ROM is one of the oldest versions released, but as I see it, once installed, there is currently no way to downgrade back to the previous version if something goes wrong. Thats the only reason I have'nt done it.
As for removing it completely, I am not sure. I have seen posts on here reffering to that, but I think it is contained somewhere that you couldn't make use of anyway. i.e. Making use of the extra storage space that it takes up.
I know I get a bit long winded, but I have a bit of a job explaining stuff. LOL, sorry.
Hi Jerry-S,
I remember someone told that we could prevent the ExtROM from installation by soft-resetting before that process, but since I don't know yet what are included in the ExtROM and if there's any good in doing so I haven't tried it yet.
I don't know if the O2 device and network settings have anything too special that you could hardly set. In my case though I've got the T-Mobile version I am actually using Orange, so it's perhaps easier for me to come to the decision. And it's worth it for me. No problem with the upgrade, given that I've unlocked CID in advance as someone has warned. And the device is running much faster. That has even halted my intension of doing the overclock, at least for now
PPB
Comments recieved.
I must admit, I kept looking and looking at the ROM file on my computer thinking errrrrrrmmmmm...............
Well I did it, but I didn't notice any real increase in speed, actually it seemed slower to me.
That in mind I though, balls and put the o2 Rom back on.
As for the EXT ROM reatures, I think the main advantage is that the MMS and Mobile web settings are set for you, but those could be found quite easily.
I know I am going to cause some trouble by asking this but why?
On taking my new Orange SPV M600 out of the box, I have to agree a bit sluggish, but this was mainly due to Windows.
After a little tweaking with the registry and some third party software it is now flying.
I originally thought that putting third party software over the top of the system would slow it even more, but know, the opposite was true. Using the standard windows task bar and start menu was dreadful. I tried a number of third party softwares such as True Toolbar, Handyswitcher etc, finally settling on Wisbar deluxe.
Everything now opens as soon as it is selected no nasty lag like windows. With some skinning and removal of Customised Today the phone looks great and is performing great. That is apart from my wired hands free. I can now answer and close calls with the button, but it does not activate voice dial when pressed, so I can't dial out hands free. All prevoius phones, Nokia and SE did this no problem, so why not this phone?
Anyway, back to the point of ROMS, why keep flashing?
I just got me one of those SPV M600 things and its not that slow, but I havent added anything else to it yet. Would you care to elaborate on "registry tweaks"? Im new to XDA/phones and havent started messing about yet.
I can not remember all of the tweaks I used, but there is a big section somewhere in here listing them. I have them somewhere on the computer but my filing is a mess and I can't remember what I called the text file or where I put it.
Basically the tweaks are just simple things like increasing cache size for fonts, programs etc. Moving file storage off main memory to SD card, disabling and enabling etc. It is claimed by doing this that the system will speed up a little. I am not sure if any of these actually did anything or if it is just down to Wisbar. All I can say is that when I click on a program it fires up straight away, before it could take a second or two.
Spenner said:
I just got me one of those SPV M600 things and its not that slow, but I havent added anything else to it yet. Would you care to elaborate on "registry tweaks"? Im new to XDA/phones and havent started messing about yet.
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check out this tread and application
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=39725&highlight=easy+tweaking
good luck
R
Actually, the rule about flashing is: If it's not broken don't fix it.
People upgrade because they want to get rid of bugs or add features like AKU 2.0 that includes push mail and some other stuff.
Also some brands are better that others in some ways, and worse in other ways. There are several ROMs for the Prophet: Dopod, i-mate, Qtek, Orange. Finally some people cook their own ROMs throwing out useless stuff and adding apps they 'must have'.
All in all if you are pleased with your phone there is no need to change the ROM. When I got my Jamin it had the i-mate 1.xx ROM so I upgraded to 2.13 to get the AKU 2.0 goodies.
I always belive the latest is the greatest, even if its not. I still run the latest. While the release notes say "Added this, fixed that" they also contain a lot of fixes and changes not documented.
Hi all.
Thats actually a very good question. From my experience you dont really need to change anything. Maybe as you said some registry tweaking or some basic settings. However as someone already said, the golden rule should be if it is not broken dont try to fix it.
On the other hand you might want to change things with no reason, just because you can.. and I have to admit that it is hard not to do. Then you have to make sure that you know what you are doing cause otherwise you might end up spending your day in forums try to fix whatever you &^%$ up..
Take care.
Thanks for the replies.
I have to admit, when I first got the phone I started tweaking, then I found this forum and others. Once I discovered unlocking and flashing ROMS, I was very close to doing it. Then I remembered what I used to be like on my PC. With old systems like Win ME, I used to spend about 70% of my time tweaking and fixing, and only 30% actually using the damn thing. Not what I want out of a phone.
Just by messing around with skins, I have already managed to lose my phone dialer all together, I was left with a blank screen, so I had a phone that could not phone. I have it nicely skinned and running now, but I was never able to get the Orange dialer back.
Guess the only time I will flash my ROM is when there is a genuine update and it is covered by warranty, that way if the ROM is bad, Orange can give me another phone.
Thanks
I look at it same way as i look at windows.
My windows isn't broke but I always use Windows Update.
Why do YOU update windows, if you do at all. I guess im not sure if this is advisable, but that's just the way i do it.
Regarding upgrading ROM, MOST of the time, it makes the device faster and adds more features ( i never install extended ROM ) so I always upgrade when there is a new one.
I've downgraded ONCE. And only the RADIO because 1.11 didn't agree with my device.
There are ways to Backup the device, change to a different BRAND/VERISON of ROM then restore the backup. This makes changing ROM very easy.
Anyway, I have nothing better to do with my time so i upgrade whenever a new ROM comes out.
Sorry to but in again but I simply must disagree with the Windows update analogy.
I have my PC set to auto update as well, but Windows XP runs updates in the background and doesn't delete you data in the process.
ROM upgrade means HARD RESET, and unless you have a good backup a long restore process.
Also there is the danger of communication / power interrupt during the flashing and a bricked device as a result.
Finlay, like with your radio ROM, some OS updates have new bugs as well as fixes for the old.
But I do wish it was as simple as updating windows - then I would say, update away, couldn't hurt.
My analogy was based only on the reason for updating, not the process itself that you are stating.
What I mean is if your windows works, why update?.... This thinking... Not the "ritual"...
Sorry i did not explain that clearly. The guy just asked why update if you are content with what you have.... It has nothing to do with "I would update only if the process were simpler" like what you stated.
Sorry for the misunderstanding
I upgrade because I can cook my own ROM with better application suite
Jorgee said:
What I mean is if your windows works, why update?.... This thinking... Not the "ritual"...
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Because it's full of holes and most of the updates are plugging them.
I think the main point is you dont have to upgrade, you can if you want, its a matter of choice.
I like to always update, some like to keep the same and have never hard reset in their life. Im on my 9th this week :S but it is a new device and im still figuring it all out.
TheBrit said:
Jorgee said:
What I mean is if your windows works, why update?.... This thinking... Not the "ritual"...
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Because it's full of holes and most of the updates are plugging them.
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Hmm, then i guess your advice to NewSPV is to upgrade.
Me too, as i said in earlier post, i will always upgrade to the newest ROM, then just downgrade if i don't like the changes. Unfortunately it isn't as easy to downgrade from Windows SP2 hehehe
Jorgee said:
TheBrit said:
Jorgee said:
What I mean is if your windows works, why update?.... This thinking... Not the "ritual"...
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Because it's full of holes and most of the updates are plugging them.
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Hmm, then i guess your advice to NewSPV is to upgrade.
Me too, as i said in earlier post, i will always upgrade to the newest ROM, then just downgrade if i don't like the changes. Unfortunately it isn't as easy to downgrade from Windows SP2 hehehe
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I was talking about Windows, not WM5.
My phone came shipped with an AKU2 rom and it's fine - after a little tweaking. I'm not going to risk bricking my pride and joy with a rom upgrade - as so many people have done already on this forum. :wink:
Can anyone name some good places to read about how to flash your device with a new ROM?
Also, I was wondering about what the "extended ROM" is. Is it basically partitioning part of your storage card for use as "internal memory" ?
Thanks for the info guys!
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Can anyone name some good places to read about how to flash your device with a new ROM?
Also, I was wondering about what the "extended ROM" is. Is it basically partitioning part of your storage card for use as "internal memory" ?
Thanks for the info guys!
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Look at the top left of this very page and you will see a link to the wiki section of this site. How to flash is in there.
The extended rom is where the operator adds thier own customisations (over and above what M$ provide) to the device, for example Orange and O2 add their own options in there and they install when the device is powered up for the first time or when it's hard reset. If you get access to the extended rom (again look in the wiki) you can manipulate what gets installed and if you're really clever, add some of your own stuff.
Don't ask me how to do these things as I have not tried myself, the risk of bricking the device is too great for my liking.
cool, thanks paul
TheBrit said:
Don't ask me how to do these things as I have not tried myself, the risk of bricking the device is too great for my liking.
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Actually, it is virtually impossible to brick your device by manipulating the contents of the extended ROM. It is only accessed once, during first boot, and event that can be avoided by quickly soft resetting the device.
Basically it acts exactly like "file store" used to on WM 2003 devices, the only difference being it is hidden so ordinary users won't get rid of the operator junk.
In my case it was very nice of i-mate to provide various goodies there like voice dial (should be in ROM) anti virus (not only useless but damaging crap) Skype (could have just downloaded from their site, but nice thought) and backgammon (toys are always welcome).
But now ofter the initial installation it makes all the sense in the world to save these cabs (9MB~) to my PC and have extra 10 MB storage on the device.
Hi,
I used to use Dial Up Networking to access TomTom plus services on my Go 910 through my Hermes, but as we well know, MS has replaced this feature with ICS as of AKU 3 onwards. I'm now using WM6 and don't want to go back.
I found this blog on MSDN. Apparently DUN may reappear in WM6 .... one day ... if the operators choose to include it...
http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2007/04/17/why-did-we-remove-bluetooth-dun.aspx
Anyway, I was just wondering if anyone had looked into ways to port DUN from a pre-AKU 3 version of WM5 into WM6. Is it just a bunch of dlls a few registry settings, or is this functionality very intertwined in the OS and hard to transport?
I don't want to duplicate work, so if anyone has looked into this already please let me know. Also let me know if you think this would be a worthwhile project. If no one else has done this, I'd be happy to give it a try.
Thanks
cuccureddu said:
Hi,
I used to use Dial Up Networking to access TomTom plus services on my Go 910 through my Hermes, but as we well know, MS has replaced this feature with ICS as of AKU 3 onwards. I'm now using WM6 and don't want to go back.
I found this blog on MSDN. Apparently DUN may reappear in WM6 .... one day ... if the operators choose to include it...
http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2007/04/17/why-did-we-remove-bluetooth-dun.aspx
Anyway, I was just wondering if anyone had looked into ways to port DUN from a pre-AKU 3 version of WM5 into WM6. Is it just a bunch of dlls a few registry settings, or is this functionality very intertwined in the OS and hard to transport?
I don't want to duplicate work, so if anyone has looked into this already please let me know. Also let me know if you think this would be a worthwhile project. If no one else has done this, I'd be happy to give it a try.
Thanks
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It can't be hacked on the Registry level - see my related remarks in my article on all these q's.
That is, simple registry hacking won't work.
Thanks. Your very good article answers most of my questions. (not what I hoped to hear unfortunately).
One thing is still not clear in my mind though: Is this functionality solely a dependency of the (upgraded) MS BT stack and not the OS itself? If so, is it available in, say, the Widcomm stack and could one get DUN functionality back on a WM6 ROM by using the Widcomm stack instead of the Microsoft one?
Hi everyone, I'm new to pretty much all of this. Iv had my HTC HD2 since Xmas eve and it's my 1st smartphone so I'm struggling a bit with all the jargon but i am determined to learn. I have a few questions and work odd shifts so don't get the time to search for all my answers so I'm hoping if i ask all in one thread someone will be kind enough to provide me with all the answers in one place.
1st of all, to help you out in giving me some answers this is the current software info of my phone and CABs iv already installed (thank's very much to you guys)
Software Info:
OS Version: 5.2.21864 (21864.5.0.81)
Manila Version: 2.5.19202525.0
ROM Version: (1.43.206.4 (70315) WWE
ROM Date: 11/6/09
Radio Version: 2.04.50.22_2
Protocol Version: 15.26.50.07U
SPL: 1.42.0000 XE
Installed CABs:
Microsoft .NET CF 3.5
BsB Tweaks 1.6
BiGnAdAd TransparentBottomCurtain
Calendar Transparent
Clock- Transparency
Dragon_Soft Manilla Calendar Text Removal -Multilanguage
Duttys Task Manager for Leo
fim.Mosko.Mobi (Works apart from closes every time i update my status)
fp7_ppc_en
galarm_2.3
GoogleSearch
KeypadLedControl_v0.4
myPlayer
Opera_Mobile_10_WM_beta_2u
Skyfire-PPC
TCPMP-0.72RC1-GF5500Edition-Alpha4
TorchButton_v2.3
Touch X remove top curtian
V6 Test 1 Brians Taskbar- gfreek edition
Vovichek_Jamrecords_20shcut_m2525
youtube (Think this was an add-on to the Google Search app)
vangrieg_InCall_Lock
Now, theres a lot of jargon i dont yet understand so if someone could tell me what the following mean?
Manila
ROM
Radio
Cooked
Bricked
Flash
SSPL
HSPL
NBH
SPL
RRU
(I think thats all the terminology i dont understand ATM)
I have seen new versions of Manila and Sense posted on here, can anyone tell me the Pro's/Con's to installing these before i go ahead? Like what are they updating/fixing, and is it worth it? I want my phone to be its best.
Right, there the complicated questions (for me) but as i work odd shifts it will be easier for me to ask other advice in this thread aswel.
Is there any way to disable the hard "end call" key when in call as when I'm using my BT headset i hang up on people in my pocket. (I do have a CAB installed that disables it whilst ringing so i dont hang up getting it out of my pocket but it releases the key again as soon as its been answered)
Is there a way to stop WIFI disconnecting when the phone is in standby (I have the BsB Tweaks but the option doesnt seem to stay on)
Is there a way of setting the Mobile Web connection to automatically turn off when its not in use and back on again when needed (I.E if I'm browsing and minimize the app to put the phone in my pocket)
I see people favor the Igo8 and TomTom 7 (i think) Satnav apps but cant seem to find where to get either from, and help?
I can update my Facebook status at the bottom of my contact card in "all people" but it seems a bit of a silly place to put the feature, is there any way of making it a bit quicker to access? (I like the way it says "from my HTC" on the updated) or does anyone know of a decent facebook app? The best iv found so far is FIM but it crashes every time i update my status. Id like to be able to chat and Tag people in photo's (and tag in status' if at all possible)
Sorry for the lengthy questions and any help is GREATLY appreciated and if i think of anything else i need to know ill ask it in this thread.
Keep up the hard work guys and i hope to be as knowledgeable as you in a few months
brettsorby said:
Now, theres a lot of jargon i dont yet understand so if someone could tell me what the following mean?
Manila
ROM
Radio
Cooked
Bricked
Flash
SSPL
HSPL
NBH
SPL
RRU
(I think thats all the terminology i dont understand ATM)
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Well for a new user, you certainly seem to have got your head around some of the modifications possible!
Terminology:
Manila: The HTC interface with the big digital clock and tabs. The HD2 comes with Manila 2.5 (= HTC Sense)
ROM: Read Only Memory, but for our purposes usually means the operating system itself, which can be written to the ROM of the device. There are standard ROMs like the HTC 1.48 update and cooked ROMs like those you see in the forums.
Radio: Usually refers to the part of the OS controlling radio functions, which are the phone signal receiver, Bluetooth and WiFi. This also contains the GPS drivers.
Cooked: A ROM that has been modified by a ROM 'chef' to make it either more up to date, more functional, or to give more available memory. Some better than others, and all technically void your warranty.
Bricked: A 'cooked' ROM needs to have the boot sectors of the device modified to allow the ROM to be installed. If this hasn't been done, the the device can get stuck in the middle of the update, hence the term 'bricked': it becomes basically an unusable brick. There can be ways out of it, but sometimes it's terminal.
Flash: The process of updating the physical ROM with a new ROM OS image
SSPL/HSPL/SPL: The SPL is like the BIOS of a PC. Stock SPLs don't allow updates other than from the manufacturer or the phone operator. SSPL (SoftSPL) is a temporary software fix that allows the ROM to be updated and HSPL (HardSPL) is a permanent fix that protects from bad ROM flashes.
RRU/NBH: RUU stands for ROM Update Utility and it is the PC executed process to update a ROM. It has a few steps such as checking versions, battery status then putting the device into a mode to allow the ROM update (Bootloader mode) then doing the actual update. The NBH file is the actual ROM file itself that overwrites the ROM. It is possible to copy the NBH file to a storage card and rename it, then do the update without connecting to a PC.
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Is there any way to disable the hard "end call" key when in call as when I'm using my BT headset i hang up on people in my pocket. (I do have a CAB installed that disables it whilst ringing so i dont hang up getting it out of my pocket but it releases the key again as soon as its been answered)
Is there a way to stop WIFI disconnecting when the phone is in standby (I have the BsB Tweaks but the option doesnt seem to stay on)
Is there a way of setting the Mobile Web connection to automatically turn off when its not in use and back on again when needed (I.E if I'm browsing and minimize the app to put the phone in my pocket)
I see people favor the Igo8 and TomTom 7 (i think) Satnav apps but cant seem to find where to get either from, and help?
I can update my Facebook status at the bottom of my contact card in "all people" but it seems a bit of a silly place to put the feature, is there any way of making it a bit quicker to access? (I like the way it says "from my HTC" on the updated) or does anyone know of a decent facebook app? The best iv found so far is FIM but it crashes every time i update my status. Id like to be able to chat and Tag people in photo's (and tag in status' if at all possible)
Sorry for the lengthy questions and any help is GREATLY appreciated and if i think of anything else i need to know ill ask it in this thread.
Keep up the hard work guys and i hope to be as knowledgeable as you in a few months
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Hard end call button: I don't know, but I suspect not!
WiFi always on: There is a file or registry modification to do this, but why would you want to? The hit on the battery with WiFi on is enormous so keeping it on when in standby would soon see the battery expire. Unless you don't have a mobile data plan there's not a lot of point in keeping WiFi on.
Mobile Data on/off: There is a program called Modaco NoData that allows you to manually turn the data connection on or off. As above though, why would you want to? These devices are sold and used as 'connected' devices and mobile data is used for a lot of background updating like weather updates, MyPhone sync etc. An open but quiescent data connection has almost no impact on battery life, and only uses data when programs are set to do so.
SatNav: TomTom don't officially support the HD2, but there are many forum topics about how to get it workng as long as you buy the correct version. iGO8 is a bit different- it is not formally available in UK and even where is it available it has to be run from the SD card it is supplied on. Also, it is pretty expensive. If you have a legitimate copy, there are ways to make it work from a different SD card.
Facebook: No idea- I don't use it!
Thank you Neil, yea iv got my head round some of it, luckily im not a technophobe im just in new territory
I only want to keep the wifi on because i stream radio when at home when its on charge and the streams just stop when the device sleeps but thanks for the battery tip, ill remember to disable wifi when i know im not in range of any.
Mobile web, i do have an "unlimited data plan" but subject to fair usage policy so got me panicking a lil bit when i see its been connected for hours but knowing that it doesnt actualy use any data unless needed is good to know.
Thanks for he jargon busting as well, Iv seen that there are higher versions of Mania/Sense on here and im aware that they may void warranty but am i right in thinking a hard reset put's it back to factory original? If so, im happy to upgrade the version but what new features would i be getting? Id quite like the whole today and manila tabs to go landscape.
Satnav, ill probably stick with CoPilot as the 5 day demo it came with functioned better than my dedicated Sony satnav lol
Once again, thank you very much
If you want to maintain the WiFi when the device is on charge, the best way is to go into the Power settings, and set the parameters for 'External Power' to always stay on.
Even a USB charger is capable of maintaining a charge with the device turned on.
Regarding the Manila updates etc- you actually have to install a newer ROM to get these new features. I have to say that pretty much all the current 'cooked' ROMs have issues of one sort or another. Once the new ROM is installed, a hard reset only puts it back to how it was after that ROM was installed. You cna however always revery to a stock ROM if you need to.
There was a new ROM listed on the HTC (UK) site earlier and now it has disappeared. (Release Date: 2010-06-17)
If you goto http://www.htc.com/uk/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=297&act=sd&cat=2 you will notice that it isn't listed there.
If you goto http://www.htc.com/uk/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=297&cat=2&dl_id=960 you will see the details of the ROM (2.07.51.22)
I have tried to download this but it rejects my serial number. Anyone else have any luck trynig this?
I tried searching the forum but couldn't see any posts on this yet.
For me it is there.
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For me it is there.
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Can you download it? When i goto the main list of ROMS it doesn't show up. If i goto the direct link i can see it, but can't download as it rejects my serial even tho i have a WWE unbranded handset. I'm currently on ROM 1.66.
I can't load it, because I've a German device. But it is for me in the list and it is marked " Date: 2010-06-17".
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EDIT: Posted into ROM-section - maybe anybody can help there: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6893951#post6893951
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I can't load it, because I've a German device. But it is for me in the list and it is marked " Date: 2010-06-17".
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This is weird! It did show up for me as in your pic but it has now disappeared for the list. This is what i have in my list :
odd, that looks more like a radio version than a rom version. can't try the download though, not on pc. hmmm.
I have now tried another WWE Serial that was posted elsewhere in the forums and this also doesn't work.
Has anyone had any luck downloading this?
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odd, that looks more like a radio version than a rom version. can't try the download though, not on pc. hmmm.
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Yeah, but there is quite an "extended" changelog provided by HTC - I didn't know sth. like this from HTC until now...
I've just entered the serial from under the battery as well as the serial from my current ROM (energy june 11th) no luck with either
Don't see it anymore...
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Don't see it anymore...
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Yeah it wierd. Same for me.
Here's the direct link to the page : http://www.htc.com/uk/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=297&cat=2&dl_id=960
Have tried a few WWE Serial numbers but no joy!
I still see it http://www.htc.com/uk/SupportViewNews.aspx?dl_id=960&news_id=676
tried various known UK serials and I cant get it!!!!!!
Used O2 UK Serial and file is downloading as: HTC_RUU_LEO_O2_UK_1.72.206.3_Radio_15.32.50.07U_2.07.51.22_2_Signed_LEO_Ship.exe
ROM Upgrade for HTC HD2 Release Date: 2010-06-17 Category: ROM Upgrade
An updated ROM is now available for HTC HD2 users to download. As always, HTC is committed to providing customers with the best possible mobile experience.
Installation Instructions:
ROM Version:2.07.51.22
Improved Functions:
1.Flipping back and forth between songs is easier than ever. Whether you are listening to a defined playlist, or letting your phone shuffle your songs for you, your music will play continuously and fluidly.
2.Taking full advantage of the G-Sensor, Opera can switch seamlessly from portrait to landscape mode to allow more flexibility and allow for you to browse your websites however you want.
3.Staying connected to your loved ones is as important to you as it is to us, and we’ve enhanced our voice quality even more in this update. Now updated, we’re delivering crystal clear sound quality, making it even easier to feel close to your loved ones, even when you are on the move.
Before you proceed, please confirm that this software upgrade is a newer version than what is currently installed on your device. If it is the same version and your device is operating normally, there is no need to reinstall the software.
o2 uk serial works.
edit - oh you beat me to it, hehe.
Looks like the version number is a radio version after all.
samsamuel said:
o2 uk serial works.
edit - oh you beat me to it, hehe.
Looks like the version number is a radio version after all.
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seems to be last O2 released rom, as well?
So - this is nothing new then.......................
I have emailed HTC to see what they are say.
I hate HTC for that. Why do they always release something and name it after sth. completely different. After a couple of customer-complaints and corrections they will change the information... Are there only idiots at work?
It was the same with ALL branded ROMs here in GER, and the famous SMS-Hotfix is still a RADIO...
HTC, you should rather care for your customers than going to court vs. Conflipper... and your E-Mail-support - it seems that the only condition to get an engagement in your customer support is being able to breathe autonomously... when I came from SE to HTC, I thought customer care could only become better - but HTC is just a whole freakin' mess...
BTW: a 2.07-ROM for EUR woud have been strange anyway...
Sorry, for getting OT...
lol, maybe it's a response test on us lot, , see how quickly it gets found when they put something on the server,
So is this really just a Radio upgrade? Because I'm currently on Stock 1.66 WWE Rom with Radio 2.10.50.07 from Middle East & Africa HTC site.